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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 potential marketing pitch: 'I'm a phone too'

By | July 29, 2010, 2:30pm PDT

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer gave analysts a glimpse at the software giant’s potential marketing around Windows Phone 7. The plan: Let Windows Phone 7 ride shotgun with Windows 7. The possible punchline: “I’m a phone too.”

Here’s a slide from Ballmer’s presentation:

Will this pitch work? Ballmer thinks the ‘I’m a phone too’ line certainly won’t hurt. He said:

I think it’s probably fair to say we have a lot of work to do and all not going to happen over night. The opportunity to do interesting work, differentiated work, to build marketshare, it is actually pretty good in the phone space right now.

The focus we had on two things, number one, to make sure that we’re doing the software right, the end user experience right. We actually designed kind of the core hardware platform for these things, chassis specification, the OEMs, the hub vendors innovate on top of that so we have guaranteed set of hardware on which to do this kind of interesting and exciting and usable software. I think it’s been — gives us phenomenal opportunity.

And then there’s the marketing hook:

Part of what we’ll be doing is driving kind of integrated set of thinking, branding. We’ll be really aggressively marketing Windows Phone. Both Windows PCs in all form factors and Windows Phones will get pretty aggressive marketing support, if you will.

What’s your take?

Update: Microsoft said that the ‘I’m a phone too’ is not an official marketing line and I updated the post accordingly. A Microsoft spokesperson said:

Steve Ballmer did not announce a new tag line or marketing pitch for the company’s Windows Phone 7 phone.  The “ I’m a phone too” comments he made were simply part of the dialogue that he was having with the audience.  Microsoft has not confirmed or announced any details about its marketing plans for Windows Phone 7.

More from Microsoft’s analyst meeting:

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RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 marketing pitch: 'I'm a phone too'
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 11th Oct
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Android: "I'm a phone and a slate, and lots of other touch friendly devices"
iOS: "I'm a phone, or an iPod, or an iPad"
Windows Phone 7: "I'm a phone only. My boss doesn't think I can work on a slate, and will use something else"
@Market Analyst
You do know that WP7 is WinCE 7, which also runs on all kinds of POS systems, GPS, and even in car (i.e. Ford Sync) do you?

Please, educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_CE_7.0
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Windows Phone 7 has been rejected
gjafg 29th Jul 2010
@Samic WP7 is not the same as any WinCE device, as the applications will be different. You need apps designed for multitouch. But now Microsoft has rejected WP7 for other portable 3G devices. It is madness, and will kill WP7.
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Yeah and Sync is useless!!!!
Uralbas 29th Jul 2010
@Samic Like most of MS products, its bloatware that needs constant updates with critical holes.

MS can keep Windows 7 on its phone. My advice to all my clients!!

STAY AWAY from MS.

You want something that doesn't require much intelligence or just want to play games and music use an Apple 3GS

You want something that is really is useful but needs some knowledge and common sense behind it, you get a Kindle, a GPS, a Camera, a HotSpot, Full internet Support, need instant translation, the fastest way to type on a cellphone (swype) and very small laptop that can use a wireless keyboard and wireless monitor (dlna) use Android.

You want something that makes call but can't do much more use Windows 7..

You want to show something you can show nice photos off with but can't use 3G signal or a phone use an Apple's 4G.
@Samic

You mean the WinCE on an ATM that got hacked yesterday?

Most of the GPS systems (Garmin, TomTom) run Linux or some flavor therof.

Ford Sync is great but hobbled by the MS connection (I own a Ford with it and am qualified to say this).

CE is not a good thing.
@Samic

Perhaps you should have read that entry yourself?

The part where it states that the official Microsoft position is that "Windows Phone 7 is currently based on Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 with some features borrowed from Windows Embedded CE 7.0, thus making it a hybrid solution"

BTW, what was the release date for the Windows CE 7.0 that all those point of sale and other systems are running on? Inquiring minds are eager to know.
@itguy08

Linux systems get hacked all the time too. Really stop spreading the FUD that ANY OS is secure by design. That's a lie. Sure good design helps but it's not foolproof.

One of my favorite vBulletin sites was hacked this week and bought it down for two days. The processes couldn't even be traced the job was so good.
@Samic

Windows Phone 7 is based on Windows Embedded Compact 7.

Ford Sync and all kinds of POS systems are Windows CE 6.x.

What's the difference? WP7 is developed in Silverlight. WinCE in Compact .net Framework. If you are not a developer, you have no idea of the difference. Else you would say that Windows 7 and Windows Mobile are the same, because both are called windows.

Please educate yourself with more than the Wikipedia.
@Samic Sorry, you are not correct. "All kinds of POS systems" are based on WePOS (Windows Embedded for POS). WePOS is based on XPe, Windows XP Embedded. To my knowledge there have been no announcements about a Windows 7 version for POS. None.
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Mr. itguy08,
Mister Spock Updated - 1st Aug 2010
why is it you never mention the Linux systems that are broken into everyday, around the world?

Surely you read your news, news full of stories of massive thefts of information derived from Linux based systems, yet you refuse to ever mention them.

Honesty does not appear to be a trait present in many of you humans, though I believe that it is your "pride" that is coloring your comments negativelly.

plain
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You could have stopped...
jasonp@... 2nd Aug 2010
at POS. We all know Windows CE fits that description well.
@Market Analyst
So Android and iOS are jacks of all trades, master of none.
WP7: I like to move it move it.
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The tablet PC is from yesteryear
gjafg 29th Jul 2010
@Loverock Davidson - The mastery required is the multitouch interface.

Who are the masters of multitouch? iOS and Android. Who is the jack of all trades? The old Tablet PC with multitouch bolted on as an afterthought.

Who has the most multitouch apps? Android and iOS are the winners. PC software was designed for a mouse.

Microsoft should have used Windows Phone 7 in the slate, but obviously did not think it would succeed in this market.
@Market Analyst, the master of multitouch is the iOS. The Google is still working out the kinks on Android.
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Phone only huh?
Cylon Centurion 29th Jul 2010
@Market Analyst

Forget the integrated Facebook and Twitter, forget integrated Office, and forget that you can develop for it. Yeah, it's just a phone.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and develop an app for it?
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@NStalnecker - Why? Better to develop apps for iPhone and Android! You think we're stupid and want to waste time developing for WinCE, er, WinP, er, .Net? Only to have MS waste our time and money! Please, no one can be THAT big of a fanboi! If one is than that one is Stupid!
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A big mouth off like you who has before in the past talked back to not only ZDNet posters, but the bloggers themselves, going so far to personally attack the bloggers with profanity and derogatory terms.
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This NStalker guy has it bad for MS.

"I'm a phone too" would be perfectly appropriate for a 'me too' product which will only make Android look better.
@NStalnecker Why don't you look at past performance and see that WP7 has a MONUMENTAL mountain to climb to even hope to be a contender for the smart phone market...Blackberry, iPhone, Android...you honestly think that Microsoft has a chance vs these guys? We want an intuitive phone that caters to people with a reasonable amount of intelligence, not a flashy bubble-wrap mobile OS that makes 7-year olds squeal with delight.
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Tim Patterson is partially correct...
i8thecat 30th Jul 2010
"This NStalker guy has it bad for MS. "I'm a phone too" would be perfectly appropriate for a 'me too' product which will only make Android look better. - Tim Patterson"

Perhaps MS should change that to "I'm a wannabe too".

As far as android goes.. Looks like Google is walling that garden... They nixed over 6000 apps in the last week.. And they are starting to figure out that a lot of the apps steal identities...

Google is in a lose/lose situation... If they continue walling their garden, then they sand to piss off the Rabid Roid boys that they call customers... If they don't, no one will want a Roid phone because of all the malware... But that is good news for the MS Ballmer feltchers, because the WP7 "wannabe" actually stands a chance against all the Roid phones.

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100729/hows-apples-walled-garden-look-now/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker

http://seekingalpha.com/article/217277-when-closed-is-better-than-open-apple-vs-google?source=email

http://www.omgandroid.com/google-started-removing-applications-android-market/

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/186720/malware_android_apps_threaten_mobile_security.html
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Market Analyst appears
Mister Spock 1st Aug 2010
to be neither an analyst, nor highlly intelligent, for that matter

He does seem to be overly biggoted, which does lead him to post highly illogical responses.

I must admit that he seems to have some control over his emotions: Most humans would be embarrassed to post the things he does.

plain
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@NStalnecker - Silly boy, MacGyver you're not! Please! It seems any post I make AGAINST your God Microsoft is some how a 'personal' attack. No, it's an opinion. Only crazy MS fanbois like you call it an attack. Get over it! About 60% of the computing public HATE MS! And they will grow to hate you too because you are so blind sided !
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@Market Analyst - Windows Phone 7: My boss also lies on the marketing slides and lists Slate as an available item. He's desperate! Poor sweaty pits!
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There ARE slates available.
Cylon Centurion Updated - 29th Jul 2010
@The Danger is Microsoft

Get your head out of your rear...
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@NStalnaker Get your head out of yours..if you think Windows Phone 7 is going to be any threat to the top three, think again. They are laughing at Micro$haft's late entry.
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@NStalnecker - Then list the available slates! Can I buy one today? No? Then YOU are the liar and not me!
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WP7
Monarky Updated - 30th Jul 2010
@Market Analyst On slates on phones on REAL GAME PHONES before iPwn'd became a Nintendo DS clone phone! haha....

WP7 is going to KILL iPwn'd and iFad haha.....

Remember Xbox 360 has over 40million owners and they aren't going to buy a freakin phone you can't hold! haha...
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XBox 360 (and I don't know what this
unclefixer@... 2nd Aug 2010
@Monarky ...has to do with Win 7 PHONES- but, X-#$%#_Box also had (Has?) a common, widespread problem called the RED RING OF DEATH...
Yup- way to go, guys
www.dfwsupergeek.com
@Market Analyst
yeah sure. Please don't come out of your dream, because the real world may not please you and can increase your mental stress. Please.
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"I'm a Phone Too"??? Just lame!
dave95. 29th Jul 2010
"We say on the PC, I say on the Phone, too, part of what we?ll be doing is driving kind of integrated set of thinking, branding. We?ll be really aggressively marketing Windows Phone. Both Windows PCs in all form factors and Windows Phones will get pretty aggressive marketing support, if you will."

Was this a direct quote from him, cause I'm still trying to make sense of it. For a phone that's not supposed to be a PC any longer (said MS), why are they trying every which way to tie it to Windows, PCs? From the name Windows, to now the marketing?
@dave95. that quote was from the live transcript from the meeting. I edited that splice at the beginning out. The gist of it is in the presentation slide. I'm a phone too is the hook.
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@Larry Dignan - Perhaps you should give us the real stuff instead of your Windoze flavor. We like real stuff!
@dave95. I can't believe how many CrApple Trolls iHitler Steve has hired to go out and attempt to intimidate MS Windows users. Must be very afraid! ....and rightly so! haha.... I'm sure there are some in Apple that remember the arse wiping they got in the 90's when they lost dominance to MS then too! lol

It's going to be very entertaining when MS rips past CrApple....... AGAIN!!!! ahaha
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CrAapple was very original..
dave95. 30th Jul 2010
@i2fun@...

I didn't think my post warranted such a fanatic rebuttal. I am just trying to make sense of their confusing message.
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@i2fun@... Please. MS is the one who is afraid and using tactics that are 10 years old. You know. The same tactics used against MS. Same non-original idea stuff from MS. 'Hey, they called me lame so I'll call the lame!'. MS is a collection of people working for a loser company. The people may be brilliant, but MS sucks them dry!
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@i2fun@... So I guess based on your above statement that MS has hired you to go out and attempt to intimidate Apple users since you run around worthless FUD about Apple ever chance you get?
Cool, I want to be a phone too! Can't wait to test these things out at the end of September.
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@Loverock Davidson - WOW! GOOD for you. Test it. Like It. I don't care!
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Since the iPhone has the reputation of not being able to hold on to calls, I think this is a perfect dig against Apple!
@NonZealot
my thoughts exactly
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You have thoughts?
James Quinn 29th Jul 2010
@rikasa
Pagan jim
@NonZealot Gee, that's funny, since owning my iPhone 4 I have only had 2 dropped calls, both in my house which has always had bad cell reception no matter what the carrier.

I guess you're WRONG.
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No, YOU are wrong
NonZealot 30th Jul 2010
@cyberslammer
I never said the iPhone 4 dropped calls, I said it had the reputation of dropping calls. Which it does.

Next time you try to correct someone, maybe you should read what they actually wrote. You won't look like such an iDiot. happy
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@nonzealot It's funny that everyone picks on the iPhone and iPad, if it was the other way around with Microsoft leading the charge people would be making fun of it all the time...oh wait, they do anyway.

Yes, reputation is everything, even if it's not true...I guess you drive the market don't you, which is why Apple keeps selling iPads and iPhones with no end in sight.

Keep on trying, some day you might actually succeed in making a valid point.
@cyberslammer Maybe you should switch houses.
@cyberslammer

Yes, reputation is everything, even if it's not true...

Um how could consumer reports be wrong?
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Which is of course why...
zkiwi 30th Jul 2010
Apple are selling as many phones as they can make. Odd that. In the mean time Microsoft has as its number one priority... Erm... something... everything...
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@NonZealot - Can you hold onto a thought? Ding on you!
@NonZealot I can see wanting to use this dig in their marketing due to the over blown reporting on the iPhone 4 antenna issues but until they are on the market and being used it doesn't mean anything. I also wonder if the MS fans will be running around bashing this marketing like they did when Apple was using it against MS.
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It's pure Microsoft--again.
Userama 29th Jul 2010
Looks like Microsoft hasn't lost their flair for coming up with ho-hum TV ad campaigns. To help them compete in the smartphone arena, they need something better than this.
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