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Novell: Microsoft open source deal has halo effect

By | December 14, 2007, 7:43am PST

Summary: Novell reported its fourth quarter results and its Linux business continues to post strong growth. However, the growth characteristics are changing. What used to be Microsoft-fueled growth–courtesy of an interoperability and cross-selling arrangement–is now broadening via other partnerships with companies like SAP, Dell and Lenovo. Putting a hard number on what was dubbed a Microsoft halo [...]

Novell reported its fourth quarter results and its Linux business continues to post strong growth. However, the growth characteristics are changing. What used to be Microsoft-fueled growth–courtesy of an interoperability and cross-selling arrangement–is now broadening via other partnerships with companies like SAP, Dell and Lenovo.

Putting a hard number on what was dubbed a Microsoft halo effect is difficult. But Novell CEO Ronald Hovsepian touched on it during the company’s conference call with analysts Wednesday:

It’s very difficult to decipher the overall halo that Microsoft has. I will tell you the other relationships, like the SAP one that I had indicated in our early rollout, we saw some up-tick there and I am tracking the Lenovo and the Dell numbers. I’m just not sharing those in public but I have looked at them and those things are directionally correct in terms of where we want to see the relationship go.

That comment followed up on more color on Novell’s SUSE pact with SAP earlier in the call. Hovsepian said that SAP’s selection of Novell as its preferred Linux provider has landed 15 customers who have upgraded to SUSE Linux.

Add that deal in with preloaded SUSE pacts with Dell and Lenovo and Novell has diversified amid its Microsoft deal. It’s safe to say that none of those deals would have worked without Microsoft paving the way.

To be sure, Novell is still dependent on Microsoft. A year into Novell’s five-year agreement with Microsoft, the company has invoiced more than half of the $240 million deal. Novell has added 4,700 customers in the last year. For the fourth quarter, Novell reported Linux product revenue of $22 million, up 69 percent from a year ago.

Despite that Linux momentum Novell remains a work in progress. It is trying to transform into a pure play software company, cut expenses on back office expenses and be more efficient with its research and development. For now it’s a “show me” company. And Novell’s outlook was soft as the company changes its product mix.

A few key numbers to gauge Novell:

  • The company reported a net loss of $17.9 million, or 5 cents a share, on revenue of $244 million. Based on Novell’s continuing operations–it sold a consulting business–the company lost 3 cents a share. Total product revenue was up 10 percent from a year ago. Excluding various items, Novell reported earnings of $20 million, or 6 cents a share. Those results were ahead of Wall Street estimates of 4 cents a share, according to Thomson Financial.
  • Novell had $1.9 billion in cash as of Oct. 31.
  • The company also said its fiscal 2008 revenue will be between $920 million and $945 million, which was lower than expectations.

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It seems to be working
markbn 17th Dec 2007
They are posting stelar earnings


=======
Its strategy is two-tiered. One is to
desperately hang onto what it's got: making
the operating system important even though
we're moving into a world where the OS
becomes steadily less important
=======

Oh I see, Leopard, Tiger, Linux, Sun Solaris, are not
important, and are becoming less important according to
you. Therefore there is no need to use any of those.
Alright.

=======
At the same
time, it is desperately looking for the next
high-growth field that it'll make money on.
So when the OS finally does start to
decline, it will find a new field. It's
targeted two areas: one is media and the
other is services. Everything it's doing is
going into that.
=======

So? Isn't the objective of a company to make money?
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Any way you view it, this was a winning move
No_Ax_to_Grind 14th Dec 2007
for Novell. Well, other than the Linux zealots crying that is.
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winning move.!..lol
Linux Geek 14th Dec 2007
from the article:The company reported a net loss of $17.9 million...yup no doubt about it!
Maybe you should give a rest to that xbox360 controller and change the game from Halo to something more like the real world.;)
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Gawd you really are dense...
No_Ax_to_Grind 14th Dec 2007
Bah, not worth the time to explain it, its way over your head.
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and that would made you sparse?...
Linux Geek 14th Dec 2007
in common sense! wink
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It is obvious you really have
GuidingLight 14th Dec 2007
no idea what you are talking about. I'm curious at what you do for a living, and at what burger establishment you do it at. happy
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may be you should 'shed some light' and read the article again!
Linux Geek 14th Dec 2007
I even bolded the quote from the article: Novell lost money again!
Seesh...is there something wrong with your IE browser?
Maybe Opera is right about standards after all. wink
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Would have they lost more money without MS pact?
markbn 14th Dec 2007
Or are you implying that Novell is losing more money
since they signed the deal with MS? Unless you have some
numbers to show us to prove something like this, all what
I can say is that the quoted people from Novell seem to be
happy with the deal since it helped that to get more new
customers. That would not be the case were they financial
performance being in worse position
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Living? He has no need when he lives in mom's basement.
No_Ax_to_Grind 14th Dec 2007
This guy wouldn't know a clue if it walked up and slapped him along side the head.
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It's always sad
nizuse 16th Dec 2007
when people define themselves by the Operating System they use.

Who cares.

Linux Geek: back to your basement please.
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Novell is learning the basics of Creative Accounting
Ole Man 14th Dec 2007
From the masters of deception. But
they failed to see the horns
underneath the Halo.

Soon they will be ripe for the
plucking.
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Shut up, Old Troll
M.R. Kennedy 14th Dec 2007
.
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Microsoft & Linux Vendors Trading in Patent Fool's Gold
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/87999/index.html

Well what do you know? Microsoft seems to be
gaining ground with their "patent
protection" scheme. But what if they
discover they've only bought a few bricks of
fool's gold?
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Did not Steve Jobs know a thing or two about that?
GuidingLight 14th Dec 2007
Novell and Apple
have they bought the boat and barrel yet?
Worries abound, their futures they discuss by drinks at the club
What have they hidden within their wares?

Who shall repent their sins?
Novell chooses the path of Future;
the path that is right, the path that
is honest.

Many will follow, as interoperability is the key,
the key to the future, the key to success.

But one believes in limiting choice.
The one with the horns.
The one who temps us with the apple.
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A GRAB BAG OF DECEPTION, DISHONESTY & HIGH-HANDED TACTICS
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/dirtytricks.shtml

Use Internet Explorer or..?
Microsoft customers upgrading their copies
of Microsoft Office at the Microsoft
website, but using the competition's web
browser, are greeted with a message
insisting on the use of MSIE for the "full
edition" of the update. Or does it? It's all
just a simple and unintentional
misunderstanding, says a Microsoft
spokesperson: The "limited edition" Office
update offered to non-MSIE users "contains
links to all Office updates [but] the full
edition of Office Update has many more
features... to experience the benefits of
the full edition of Office Update, you'll
need to use Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.01
or above." Got that?
None of this is meant to be be confusing, or
to lure unsuspecting customers into
switching to MSIE, says Microsoft, but the
murky language of the message greeting
non-Explorer users will be changed anyway
(though the browser discrimination will
not). It's becoming familiar pattern --
Microsoft willfully obfuscates until they're
caught in the act, and then slips
shamelessly into stonewalling mode.
As reported by CNET.

Annexing the Public Domain
In 1995 a virtually unknown company called
Corbis purchased the Bettman Archives, the
world's largest private collection of
historical and newspaper photographs.
Corbis, a company founded in 1989 and owned
by Bill Gates, is also actively negotiating
with museums worldwide for exclusive
licenses to electronically reproduce works
of art held in their collections. Since that
time, the Corbis "collection" has swelled to
over 20 million images.
The apparent purpose is to provide Microsoft
with access to a huge supply of exclusive
cultural "content" for its web sites and
multimedia CDs, and to prevent others from
obtaining similar access. The rub is that
Corbis now holds exclusive reproduction
rights to images which are not copyrighted,
but are in held in the public domain. Gates
has seduced these museums, presumably with
promises of future residuals, into veering
from their missions as trustees of our
cultural legacies, and into exploring the
murkiest areas of "fair use" practices and
curatorial ethics.
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You mean like Steve Jobs and back dating stocks?
No_Ax_to_Grind 14th Dec 2007
Or "look at me, I work for a dollar a year". Pfffttt...
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Steve Jobs does not have a monopoly stranglehold
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
On the industry, but that does not mean that
he's exempt from breaking the law.

Have a look at Bill Gates' campaign
contributions. (Non-Americans should realize
these are essentially legalized bribery of
public officials.)
Microsoft allowed the NSA (National Security
Agency) to build in a backdoor into Windows.
Virtually all versions in use today are
affected. Heise link. Alternative link.
Microsoft has been shown to have supported
SCO's lawsuit against IBM over Linux's
source code. Groklaw story.
Determined to blot out the sun one square
inch at a time, Microsoft has filed a patent
for a program to conjugate verbs, which is
obviously a program that has been written
100s of times before in computer science
departments and elementary programming
classes. Not to mention the popular program
Verbix, or perhaps the older Whittaker's
Words.
Microsoft is trying to get removed a
paragraph from a US higher education body's
report. The paragraph encourages use of FOSS
(free and open source software). Story.
Microsoft violated Vermont's consumer fraud
law and will pay them $4.7 million. Story.
There is word that the Windows Genuine
Advantage tool is actually spyware and
therefore violates anti-spyware laws.
Microsoft will be slapped with another clas
action suit: story.
Microsoft find clever way to commit arson
and get away with it. Their Xbox's power
supply seems rather flammable, according to
these people. But Microsoft is blaming the
power cable. One Swedish owner has informed
me that this is a scandal in Sweden.
Bill Gates, despite his company's getting
over $1 billion per year in undeserved tax
breaks from American taxpayers, has now made
it clear that he doesn't want to employ any
Americans:
He has demanded that the H1B visa program's
limits be dropped so that he can bring in to
the country an unlimited number of foreignor
workers. Link
He has sponsored a programming content in
India and plans to greatly expand the number
of workers there. Link
Microbox's Xbox 360, which clearly was
rushed to market before the bugs were
removed, is now widely understood among
adult and kid gamers to have a major
overheating problem, requiring several
possible workarounds. Not surprisingly,
there is now a class-action lawsuit to
address this rather dumb mistake. Link here,
or read MSNBC's article.
Always trying to rake in new customers,
Microsoft has accused Korea's third largest
bank of piracy. The problem is, the bank's
contract allowed for copying the software,
and it appears M$ had been asking for too
much money. Link.
There were at one point something like 35
class action lawsuits against Microsoft.
Great company!
Created at least these two front groups to
lobby for its interests:
Americans for Technology Leadership (ATL)
Citizens Against Government Waste.
"The antitrust settlement between Microsoft
and the Computer and Communications Industry
Association resulted in a $9.75M payment to
the CCIA top official. Ed Black, CCIA
president, received almost half of the
$19.75M payment." Link
Theft of $4.596 billion as "tax breaks" from
US Taxpayers between 2001-2003, thanks to
legally-bribed politicians, for an effective
tax rate of only 19.4% instead of the normal
35%. Information here.
Supported California Proposition 64 (they
contributed $105,000 to the effort), which
unfortunately passed (due to fraud??). It
prevents many just lawsuits against
corporate criminals and was supported by
many corporate criminals. Info here.
Settled class action lawsuit brought by
Californians who said Microsoft uses its
monopoly position to overcharge for
software. Info here.
Microsoft lost a class action lawsuit
brought on behalf of "permatemp" workers.
Info here.
Supports digital rights management which is
a futile and increasingly Orwellian attempt
to limit what people do with their own
computers.
Windows XP has built-in spyware that tells
Microsoft what you are doing with your
computer e.g. when you do a search it tells
their computers what you searched for.
Outsourcer of jobs to overseas, according to
CNN's Lou Dobbs, at a time when huge numbers
of US tech workers are unemployed.
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You see (a$$h)Ole man?
markbn 14th Dec 2007
Not only I think you are a troll grin
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Microsoft is a company that is desperately resisting change
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
Its strategy is two-tiered. One is to
desperately hang onto what it's got: making
the operating system important even though
we're moving into a world where the OS
becomes steadily less important. At the same
time, it is desperately looking for the next
high-growth field that it'll make money on.
So when the OS finally does start to
decline, it will find a new field. It's
targeted two areas: one is media and the
other is services. Everything it's doing is
going into that. It is a classic case of a
change-hating company; it is desperately
trying to retard change.
PAUL SAFFO, Institute for the Future
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It seems to be working
markbn 17th Dec 2007
They are posting stelar earnings


=======
Its strategy is two-tiered. One is to
desperately hang onto what it's got: making
the operating system important even though
we're moving into a world where the OS
becomes steadily less important
=======

Oh I see, Leopard, Tiger, Linux, Sun Solaris, are not
important, and are becoming less important according to
you. Therefore there is no need to use any of those.
Alright.

=======
At the same
time, it is desperately looking for the next
high-growth field that it'll make money on.
So when the OS finally does start to
decline, it will find a new field. It's
targeted two areas: one is media and the
other is services. Everything it's doing is
going into that.
=======

So? Isn't the objective of a company to make money?
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Sheep's companionship with the wolf is very good ... for the wolf
For_sure 14th Dec 2007
Does this friendly-to-the-wolf-sheep see the outcome when it will become 'fat
enough'? Or maybe you do believe that Gates loves competition?

Maybe Nowell already is a part of Microsoft?

Is the Microsoft's tactic: if you can't destroy it - buy it and them destroy it?

Do you know who paid to Palm corp. to kill the biggest threat to Microsoft - BeOS?
Or you do belive that Palm corp. bought BeOS just because they wanted to put it
on the shelf and forget about?

Does it look OK that AOL bought Netscape in order to use... IE?

Maybe it's time to jail Gates and his Co. for these and much more than these
scams?
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Gawd you whine a lot.
No_Ax_to_Grind 15th Dec 2007
Here is a clue for you. Now pay close attention, it may be over your head. Business means competition and for every winner there are dozens of losers. MS wins, others lose. That is exactlly as it should be.

See, not so hard now was it?
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How many competitors has MS if it uses gov to maintain monopoly?
For_sure 15th Dec 2007
No_Ax_to_Grind wrote: "Business means competition..."

Actually, capitalism means competition and Gates doesn't agree with this system.

Dictatorship suites Gates much better, that's why Americans have controlled by
Gates and his "chosen" Co. dictatorship (in favor of a few and against the
Americans).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

Now Americans do not have US Constitution, government for/of/by the people,
busuness where competition works for the people, ...

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?
--President George W. Bush
in a meeting in the Oval office (Nov. 2005)
to discuss renewing the USA Patriot Act
as reported by Capitol Hill Blue

Thus, No_Ax_to_Grind, or you play stupid, or you are stupid, or you are working
against the people.

Let's check it:

No_Ax_to_Grind, I blamed Gates in huge scams. Some of them are ILLEGAL
ellimination MS competition with involvement of "independant" corporation -
Palm, AOL, ... You gave no comments about. Can you give some comments now?
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Dude, you need thicker tin foil in your hat. (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind 16th Dec 2007
.
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Can you address his post or not?
Linux User 147560 16th Dec 2007
After all that is what he challenged you to do. As you have been challenged so many times before and never stepped up like a man or admitted you were on the losing side. devil
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Hmmm
nizuse 16th Dec 2007
Difficult choice. Usually I disagree with NoAxe. But the Linux basement dwellers act like children here.

So here it goes Linux user:
- you called youself part of the elite? Still feel that way?
- you whined about the environment but then turn around and boast that you fly to Europe -> kersone et al. Hypocrasy?
- you complained about people being So Unfair to the Vancouver police for blasting them (after all, they killed an immigrant with the taser; which you defended). Update: yesterday the Canadian polide decided to Restrict Taser usage because of 'unclear' guidelines they have today, an implicit acknowledgement that they ended the life of a human being in a not-so-defendable position; furthermore, last week the BC Government came to the same conclusion, with the federal government also looking into the matter.

Dude, you're simply not credible anymore.

Mamma's orders: Linux User: Back to Your Basement!
Linux Geek: Back to Your Basement!
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What was your crime against ZDNet, when you replied to:
For_sure 16th Dec 2007
[ur=http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12558-0.html?
forumID=1&threadID=42225&messageID=779198&start=0]European
Commission is worst than Nazism[/url]

?
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Link doesn't work.
nizuse 16th Dec 2007
Better luck next time.
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Try again...
For_sure 17th Dec 2007
European
Commission is worst than Nazism
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This link will work
For_sure 17th Dec 2007
http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12558-0.html?
forumID=1&threadID=42225&messageID=779198&start=0
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So No_Axy, acoording to the task you limited your definition to 2 options:
For_sure 16th Dec 2007
or you're a fool or you hate the people.

Let's check presisely who you are:

The "chosen" species (Gates, Rockafeller, Rotschild, ...) conducted/conduct lots of
experiments on remote mind control. For example:

This concern with the basic condition of freedom ? the absence of physical
constraint - is unquestionably necessary, but is not all this is necessary. It is
perfectly possible for a man to be out of prison, and yet not free ? to be under no
physical constraint and yet to be a psychological captive, compelled to think, feel
and act as the representatives of the national State, or of some private interest
within the nation, want him to think, feel and act. There will never be such a thing
as a writ of habeas mentem (rights to protect the mind identity); for no sheriff or
jailer can bring an illegally imprisoned mind into court, and no person whose
mind has been made captive by the methods outlined in earlier articles would be
in a position to complain of his captivity. The nature of the psychological
compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the
impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-
manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are
invisible, and he believes himself to be free and the good laws will remain on the
statute book; but these liberal forms will merely serve to mask and adorn a
profoundly illiberal substance.
--Aldous Huxley (Brave New World Revisited, Published 1958, 2004 p. 333,
HarperCollins ISBN 0060535261)

We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The
purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the
given norm can be surgically mutilated.
--Dr. Jose Delgado, 1974 Congressional Testimony

The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but
this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does
not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has
great appeal. We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and
generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.
--Dr. Jose Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry
Yale University Medical School
Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974

Part of the thrust of Delgado's research was genetics, since he had determined
that low intensity electromagnetic fields were capable of altering DNA. Delgado
said, "Our understanding of genetics is very clumsy at present. But if we can
produce lethal mutations with EMF fields, perhaps we will someday be able to use
the technique to produce behavior changes. " Summing up his philosophy,
Delgado remarked, "This new knowledge is so important that 1 think it should
radically change the philosophy of our educational system, which believes in the
sanctity of individuals, thinking that an individual exists at birth. This belief is not
true. And this science is going to prove the fallacy of democracy in the sense that
we talk about the rights of the individual; this democratic belief is not true.
Because we are forming this individual, because we are constructing his brain,
we are willy-nilly making the differences we either desire or dislike.?
--Jos? M. R. Delgado, M.D., Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale University Medical
School

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and
opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who
manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government
which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds
are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never
heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is
organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they
are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ... In almost every act of our
daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or
our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of
persons ... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the
masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."
-- Edward Bernays (November 22, 1891 - March 9, 1995

So, question to you, No_Ax_to_Grind:
What they figured out in their experiments - can "thicker tin foil" in someone's hat
protect this guy from being remotely hypnotised (like being forced to love MS to
buy/promote exclusevely MS products) or it can't? (I am not joking)
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That was a long post...
nizuse 16th Dec 2007
I don't understand all you write, but partially you seem to be on to something but partially it's way off base.

Have a cup of tea.
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If you have a cup of tea... you may watch other parts ...(if you need it)
For_sure 17th Dec 2007
For the beginning watch this documentary ?ZEITGEIST?

Elections - who controls the voting machines controls the government, the
country, .., everything (think about "business" wars - Iraq, Afghanistan, ...)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

A few words about members of secret societies - G.W. Bush, John Kerry, ... (Bill
Gates is this team too):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBflT4w2-qU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXqJ4sC6EGs&mode=related&search=


Orwell Rolls in His Grave
http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13062.htm


Rudy's (a member of the secret "team" of government/war/.. makers) Ties to a
Terror Sheikh
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0748,barrett,78478,6.html


Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by Firefighters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I


The End Game (intro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bcUKllI6E&feature=related

The End Game (Full)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7828479818173821931
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More Microsoft Malfeasance
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
Here’s an update to my previous post, “What
Microsoft Wants: Addicts, Serfs and
Sycophants” showing two more examples of
what Microsoft expects of its “partners”:

—
some [Microsoft] partners say the task of
ensuring that their clients are in
compliance with Microsoft’s Byzantine
software licensing structure is steadily
growing more difficult. Making matters
worse........

http://limulus.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/more-microsoft-malfeasance/
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Evil abounds: seek and ye shall find
GuidingLight 16th Dec 2007
Even in the valley of the shadow of Apple

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/09/28/unlock_iphone/index.html

http://bigbrainboy.com/bigbrainboy/the_secret_apple_attack_against_adobe/
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So your point is?
Ole Man 16th Dec 2007
That Microsoft is OK because there are other
evil corporations out there?

No, one evil corporation does not justify
another evil corporation.

Microsoft is a company that is desperately
resisting change. Its strategy is
two-tiered. One is to desperately hang onto
what it's got: making the operating system
important even though we're moving into a
world where the OS becomes steadily less
important. At the same time, it is
desperately looking for the next high-growth
field that it'll make money on. So when the
OS finally does start to decline, it will
find a new field. It's targeted two areas:
one is media and the other is services.
Everything it's doing is going into that. It
is a classic case of a change-hating
company; it is desperately trying to retard
change.
PAUL SAFFO, Institute for the Future
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The truth is - there is no NORMAL business anymore, but politics.
For_sure 16th Dec 2007
e.g. MS "competitors" buy competitors of MS and then give up the "purchase" in
favor of MS (like Palm with BeOS and AOL with Netscape).

Apple is already a part of MS but
they did not annonce this merge for the public yet.

Thus, the 'chosen' race (Gates, Rockafeller, Rotschild, etc.) owns/buys the key
corporation, media, ..., which belong to the same circle of secret masonic sciaeties
in order to achieve their goal - enslaving the entire human race as soon as
possible.

They are the shadow government who controls official government(s). No more
business, but the dirtiest politics, eugenics,... instead...


"Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but
they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped
them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known
only to the initiated few."
--Manly P. Hall (an occultist and 33rd degree mason), The Secret Teachings
of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI


"A government is the most dangerous threat to man's rights: it holds a legal
monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims."
-- Ayn Rand

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by
those who are not behind the scenes."
--Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and (Sephardic) Jewish Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom

"You never observe a great intellectual movement in Europe in which the Jews do
not greatly participate. The first Jesuits were Jews. That mysterious Russian
Diplomacy which so alarms Western Europe is organized and principally carried on
by Jews. That mighty revolution which is at this moment preparing in Germany,
and which will be, in fact, a second and greater Reformation, and of which so little
is yet known in England, is entirely developing under the auspices of Jews."
--Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and (Sephardic) Jewish Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom

"And every generation they (the Jews) must become more powerful and dangerous
to the society that is hostile to them."
--Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and (Sephardic) Jewish Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom

"There is in Italy a power which we seldom mention in this House . . . I mean the
secret societies. It is useless to deny, because it is impossible to conceal, that a
great part of Europe is covered with a network of these secret societies, just as the
superficies of the earth is now being covered with railroads . . . They do not want
constitutional government; they do not want ameliorated institutions. . . they want
to change the tenure of land, to drive out the present owners of the soil, and to
put an end to ecclesiastical establishments . . ."
--Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and (Sephardic) Jewish Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way."
--Franklin D. Roosevelt (a Jew and a Mason)

Thus, business cannot be separated from politics. But do you have other names
for this conglamerat as the biggest the most dangerous for human race
International Mafia?

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