Open source Solaris comes out today (sort of)


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  • Open Source

    Finally, an era of open source denial from dominating computing companies comes to an end. Is this wish to become reality in the future, is Sun's distro to become the first stepping stone for future companies... i hope so...
    • Denial?

      bkenny: in your estimation, what other dominating companies have been in open source denial?

      • What a question!

        Wow, where to start.. I don't have much time at the moment so i'll be brief in my rebuttle. In many debates of this scale, evolution and other human learning barriers come to mind. Why you ask! The withholding of information from the human race leads to a level track learning system. Since we don't know all the who's, what's, where's and why' we can only work with the knowledge we are givin. Therefore, if more open source is realese, more of our questions relating are answered.

        Sorry, im veering of edge a little. To your question "what other dominating companies have been in open source denial?". I will have to take the answer that most people spring to, Microsoft. I know, to people reading this, bit of an anticlimax to bring Microsoft into the equation. But they ARE in open source denial, how long before they step to the plate and annouce a product is being release, with SOURCE CODE.

        Sun have taken the first step, and hopefully, some will follow..
  • What about SCO

    I think the question I would ask is how their license with SCO -- --
    affects their ability to open-source it.
    • SCO has nothing to do with it ...

      Sun, was a co-developer of SVR4 with AT&T. Thus, Sun is the only UNIX (SVR4) vendor who remains untouchable by SCO. (All of the FreeBSD derivative products -- like Mac OS X -- have already been freed of IP issues long ago!) IBM, Novell, HP, and the Various Linux vendors are all susceptible to SCO scrutiny -- at least until the courts rule as to Novell's IP rights to SVR4. Whomever ends up buying SCO will end up in a face-off with Sun -- and perhaps Novell, in a three-way race for the UNIX/Linux desktop.
      M Wagner
  • Missing a piece of the puzzle...

    While there is a good deal of speculation on exactly how Solaris will be released, and there are questions about how the licnese is applied, the biggest question in the back of my mind is how does Microsoft play into this hand.

    The more I read, the more I am convinced there was a great deal more to the Sun/MS agreement a few months ago than just the exchange of dollars. I'm thinking we will get the first hint of that with today's "suprise" announcement. My bet? MS Office will be ported (or has been) to Solaris 10.
  • All "open source" is not created equal ...

    Sun has gone out of their way to write their own open-source license for OpenSolaris -- this was no accident. This approach is a simple way to encourage third-party innovation without any chance of the waters being muddied by the GPL under which Linux is distributed.

    Ironically, this is not very much different than what AT&T did in the early days of UNIX. Open source was available to universities everywhere -- but the license was strictly controlled.

    In effect, Sun retains complete control over the Solaris product line and, since they already have indisputable rights to SVR4, IP infringement litigation is simply not an issue.

    No one should be surprised that both McNealy and Gates have stepped back into the shadows. They both realize that their common enemy is Linux and their collaboration is geared to that aim. They needed to stop sniping at eaqch other and focus on stopping the Linux GPL movement. It was also no accident that Microsoft bankrolled SCO -- purchasing a perpetual SVR4 license and asking their investment partners to invest in SCO. This SVR4 license also frees Microsoft and Sun to freely share UNIX source code.

    Don't be fooled. Bill Gates and Scott McNealy and shrewd businessmen and they have Red Hat as well as the other Linux vendors squarely in their sights.
    M Wagner