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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Paradigms shift, don't fade: Mainframe support steady

By | October 25, 2010, 1:00am PDT

Summary: According to a BMC Software survey, the mainframe isn’t growing, but sure isn’t dying either.

Mainframe usage is expected to grow or hold steady over the next year as these tried and true—some would say downright tired—monoliths continue to chug along in the data center.

BMC Software on Monday outlined the findings of its annual mainframe user survey. The survey was based on 1,700 respondents. Sixty percent of them were BMC customers. Roughly 70 percent of respondents were line managers with the remainder being director-level positions and higher.

According to the survey, 84 percent of respondents saw growing or steady MIPS usage. MIPS (Million Instructions Per Second) is a common measure of mainframe usage. In a nutshell, the mainframe isn’t growing, but sure isn’t dying either.

This survey highlights something Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff said last week. At the Gartner Symposium conference, Benioff noted that tech paradigms shift, but it’s not a zero-sum game. Sure, cloud computing may dent on-premise software, but the traditional applications won’t disappear. The mainframe lives on. As will data centers. In other words, beware of proclamations that any technology will totally disappear.

The continuing life of the mainframe is exhibit A of what Benioff was talking about.

Among the key findings from BMC’s mainframe survey:

  • Half of respondents plan to migrate to IBM’s DB2 for z/OS offering in the next 18 months. BMC on Monday also said it would support the latest DB2 10 for z/OS.
  • Transaction volumes—many of BMC’s respondents were financial services companies—are driving MIPS growth.

  • Cost cutting is the highest priority among respondents.

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RE: Paradigms shift, don't fade: Mainframe support steady
obitwo 5th Oct
@DonnieBoy

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I just don't get how this is different bright eyes drops in any way from what Kaspersky did a few years ago? It just doesn't make much sense for me, to be honest.

Windows at least has services and support, as well as the best development tools, knowledge bases and developer community.
I fully agree with this! Nearly every coder is still developing mainly for Windows. I mean, why would anyone change?
nightmare will also continue for years, with lots to still be made on services and support for Windows.
@DonnieBoy

You going to move in to your castles in the cloud Donnie? Every cloud has a silver lining wink

Windows at least has services and support, as well as the best development tools, knowledge bases and developer community. You obviously aren't a developer or you'd realise the lack of support for the fringe OSs, like Apple and Linux. Even these toy OSs from the 1990s need support, pity there isn't any wink
Paradigms shift, they do not fade
Grow obsolete, lose market, die
As witnesseth the e- and I- .
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We moved to a combination of thin-clients, virtual desktops, terminal servers, and dedicated servers for mail, web, ftp, database, etc., some virtualized on larger machines hosting multiple servers, some on their own boxes. Somehow this rack has come to be called 'the about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great main-frame'.
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BI assumes that the two pieces of news are related, and it?s hard to argue at this point.
It?s not that it looks suspicious on Twitter?s part
but maybe it?s better to be proactive in this regard than wait for a lawsuit, fine or whatever the FTC might slap down.
At this point, it?s unclear as to why the FTC would be looking behind the scenes at Twitter.
One of the more likely explanations would probably have something to do with the fact
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One way Twitter has gone about this publicly is buying these clients out, such as Tweetie last year and TweetDeck this year. However, now there is speculation that Twitter might be acting more aggressively than we thought. That?s possibly where and why the FTC ipad bag blog of best sutudeg community the modern education news and has stepped in.
Twitter has made it known publicly that it wants these third-party apps gone.
Maybe San Francisco-based company said it more politely, but that?s the gist.
@DonnieBoy is why it's ok for Microsoft to sue other companies for patent infringement but not ok for other companies to sue Microsoft for the same types of patent infringement. Considering you didn't say that and Donnie didn't say what you asserted, I guess we should read into your post as much as you read into his.
@DonnieBoy I would buy one, but as long as AT&T is the only carrier it is a BIG NO SALE. I might even be tempted to change to Sprint or Verizon(Assuming they did not cripple it)
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@DonnieBoy

Among the key findings from BMC???s mainframe survey:

Half of respondents plan to migrate to IBM???s DB2 for z/OS offering in the next 18 months. BMC on Monday also said it would support the latest DB2 10 for z/OS.
Transaction volumes???many of BMC???s respondents were financial learn violin online services companies???are driving MIPS growth.

Cost cutting is glaucoma eyes drops the highest priority among respondents.
I just don't get how this is different bright eyes drops in any way from what Kaspersky did a few years ago? It just doesn't make much sense for me, to be honest.

Windows at least has services and support, as well as the best development tools, knowledge bases and developer community.
I fully agree with this! Nearly every coder is still developing mainly for Windows. I mean, why would anyone change?
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Thin Client and Virtual Machines
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate Updated - 25th Oct 2010
If there is anything that is having an effect, the primary driving force is an eternal need to keep down cost.

We all know the state of the economy. Not good.
How do you drive down IT cost?

Eliminate repetitive tasks. Stop getting up and down from your office chair to go service a fat client PC with moving parts.

Thin Client technology with Virtual Machines is moving most of the data back into the datacenter.

Is this good? Yes actually, with no moving parts in thin client terminals, on site service is virtually eliminated.

Security goes up a big notch with no data stored at the client.

Your datacenter will start to shrink in size if you grow VM Farms to move old racks of hardware onto Virtual Machines.

Those Virtual Machines represent the desktops and enterprise App Servers that your staff see on those thin clients.

When done properly, Thin Client and VM technology combine to save a TON of money. That Folks is CO$T $AVING$ and it all accrues to the bottom line.

The Virtual Part is most attractive when you consider starting to split out some of your legacy Apps and servers to run in a Virtual Private Cloud setting.

VPC essentially gives you complete control and access to your cloud all over a fully isolated private subnet. Add to that cloud offering dedicated Virtual Private Processors and storage and you really begin to reap the benefits of on demand 'metered' cloud computing. No asset depreciation, tracking to worry about. Just pure on demand predictable monthly utilitarian cloud expense.

That is where things are going with cost Folks.
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Just where are the savings
itpro_z 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate , you are promoting an old argument, and one that just never seems to result in the savings you suggest.

-PCs are so cheap now that there is little difference in cost between a thin client and a full blown desktop PC.

-PCs are generally very reliable, so supporting desktops vs thin clients from the hardware perspective is virtually the same.

-PC OSs and software are also very stable and reliable now, requiring less support than in the past.

-A software license costs the same whether you are running it from a server or desktop.

-Very few of us allow data to be stored on the client. All data is stored on our secure servers.

There are advantages, and disadvantages, to running everything from a virtual cloud, but claiming that there are huge cost advantages is naive at best.
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According to TOTAL MIPS, it is growing
BrentRBrian 25th Oct 2010
As the Mainframes become more powerful and can handle more virtual loads (displacing Windows servers), the data center becomes more efficient, easier to maintain. I would say the mainframe is displacing more Intel MIPS than ever.
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A rose by another name...
Gaius_Maximus 25th Oct 2010
Herr Schmitz is correct, and itpro_z should heed him, but it's not really just about IBM or traditional big iron: It's about centralization. To reduce complexity, to improve manageability and security, to enhance software integration, whatever. Many of those 'main frames' aren't really. They're also blades and HPCs passing themselves off as mainframes.

We moved to a combination of thin-clients, virtual desktops, terminal servers, and dedicated servers for mail, web, ftp, database, etc., some virtualized on larger machines hosting multiple servers, some on their own boxes. Somehow this rack has come to be called 'the main-frame'.
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Paradigms shift, they do not fade
Grow obsolete, lose market, die
As witnesseth the e- and I- .

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