Podcast: Web 2.0 Summit action, Twine, Ballmer will dunk Google, the gPhone and more

Podcast: Web 2.0 Summit action, Twine, Ballmer will dunk Google, the gPhone and more

Summary: This week on the Dan & David Show, Dan and I kick things off with a discussion of Google's worst kept secret: the gPhone. Dan briefs us on what it is and then I riff on why I love it and hate it at the same time.

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This week on the Dan & David Show, Dan and I kick things off with a discussion of Google's worst kept secret: the gPhone. Dan briefs us on what it is and then I riff on why I love it and hate it at the same time. The way I see it, we're heading towards a world where the silos that the Internet is already being carved into will be further exacerbated by the hardware that's tied to them. iPhone's will no doubt be great iTunes terminals to the exclusion of all other handsets. The gPhone will be a great terminal to Google's services and even though Dan says it will be open because of its roots in Linux and how Google theoretically does no evil, I'm not sure any of that matters. After all, regardless of how open it is, will Google's competitors really want to join the party if it ultimately serves Google's goals in the long run?

Eventually, we move on to talk about the Web 2.0 Summit where Dan is still (this evening) rubbing shoulders with the digerati (and the glitzerati). Using Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's explanation of how some years from now, Microsoft will be able to score a dunk over Google on search and advertising without offering details of how, Dan says the that The Summit is more about networking than it is about substance. He serves up Cisco's pitch of its "Entertainment Operating System" as another example.

Dan offers some of the highlights of his time at the Summit and talks a bit about Twine which was publicly previewed for the first time at the event and is getting some cred as the first Semantic Web app. We also touch on some of the news highlights of the week including the opening up of MySpace to developers and Microsoft's release of the PopFly public beta.

Eventually, we wrap it up with a rant on FaceBook. Bottom line, it's so secretive (in its email) and involves so much friction, the social phenomenon is somehow managing to succeed in spite of what are clearly some usability snafus. According to Dan, the company simply lacks the muscle to cover all its weaknesses right now. But he expects that to change next year.

Topics: Linux, Browser, Google, iPhone, Microsoft, Mobility, Open Source, Operating Systems, Software

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  • No News is Bad News

    If web 2.0 participation is squelched, then what does web 2.0 mean? (see http://www.aboutus.org/Oreilly.com#Additional_Information and/or digg it @ http://digg.com/tech_news/Scandalous_Censorship_Tim_O_Reilly_arbitrarily_censors_Blog_Web_2_0_Summit )

    "We don't need no ..." yea -- LOL. The web contains information. It is simply impossible to come up with a gizmo that uses a subset of that information to act as if it were MORE informative -- end of story.

    Biohacking! Funny (but also scary?) See also http://biohacker.com

    ;D nmw
    new media works
  • Last week's MP3 in place of this week's in RSS feed

    After iTunes downloaded the same MP3 for this week's episode as last week, I checked the Feedburner RSS feed and confirmed that this week's <item> element contains last week's MP3 in its <enclosure> and <media:content> sub-elements. Everything else for the episode looks right, it's just the file reference to dananddavidshow_2007-10-12-172516.mp3 which is wrong.

    The latest show can be listened to directly or downloaded via the embedded Flash player; it's just the RSS feed which is awry.
    Jason Etheridge
  • RE: Podcast: Web 2.0 Summit action, Twine, Ballmer will dunk Google, the gP

    Just download the show via the Flash-player. Then look the old file, copy the name of the old file, rename the new, and replace the old in the iTunes folder and it's done.
    Viklund
    • cuts off

      Looks like the show cuts off after 25 minutes...
      Viklund
      • No cut off here

        I was pointing out the problem with the RSS feed so that they could fix it for everyone. I had already downloaded it directly (which is how I confirmed that the correct version was available through the Flash player).

        I didn't notice any problem with the show being truncated. It is about 25 minutes long in total, and finishes normally (ending with David's sign-off).
        Jason Etheridge
    • Podcast

      That works great.
      Cindy Joffrion
  • Twine

    I just blogged about Twine. Maybe you would be interested in reading how I summarizes the various information about Twine up to the present. The link is at:
    http://yihongs-research.blogspot.com/2007/10/twine-first-impression.html

    -- Yihong
    Yihong-Ding
    • Twine

      Very nice summary
      Cindy Joffrion