Prediction: Sun's Bray will buy me dinner in '07

Prediction: Sun's Bray will buy me dinner in '07

Summary: Sun's Tim Bray has publicly invited me into a bet with him.  Tim is betting me that by next year, I will no longer think that the NetBeans IDE should be throwing in the towel vs.

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Sun's Tim Bray has publicly invited me into a bet with him.  Tim is betting me that by next year, I will no longer think that the NetBeans IDE should be throwing in the towel vs. the Eclipse IDE.  Earlier today, I blogged about how Eclipse is on a roll.  Although I didn't actually say that Neteans *should* throw in the towel (I only asked if it should), I'm still accepting the bet.  So, Tim, as the blogosphere is my witness, you're on.  Now that Tim has mentioned that his "tastes in food and wine are fairly plebian," the only question is what will I be eating? Crow? Or a decent fish dish.

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  • Netbeans vs Eclipse

    I think the difference between Netbeans and Eclipse is that Netbeans is more than the sum of its plugins and Eclipse is less than the sum of its plugins.

    While Netbeans will become and more robust IDE, Eclipse will increasingly be just a platform on which IDEs are built.

    My prediction is that more and more features in Sun's commerical IDE products - Java Studio Creator and Java Studio Enterprise, will be pushed down into Netbeans (which is their foundation). Sun started giving away both of those IDEs recently...I'm not sure if they still are.

    Meanwhile, Eclipse will have more and more plugins that compete with each other and have various incompatibilities.

    So in the end there will be no real Eclipse, there will be Oracle JDeveloper and IBM/Rational such-and-such and JBoss Eclipse and the list will go on and on.

    In the end, I think Netbeans will be the far superior open source IDE, while many commercial (and quite likely free but not OSS), will be based on Eclipse. Some of the commercial offerings will be better that Netbeans, some not.
    Erik1234
    • My money is on David

      Just because there will be some commercial offerings based on Eclipse, that's supposed to make it bad? Are you forgetting about all those cozy developers contributing their fixes and improvements back to open source (as required by the license)? The only Java IDE that remotely compares to Eclipse is JetBrains IDEA, and Eclipse (besides being free) is much more than a Java IDE. Look at the PHP-IDE project proposal for example, and the C development toolkit, and the Ruby development toolkit and so forth. Ever write code that spans language and tier boundaries? Eclipse has got that covered nine ways to Sunday. So my money is on David for this one.
      Ed Burnette