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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Privacy concerns to be topic of all-hands meeting at Facebook today

By | May 13, 2010, 3:05am PDT

Summary: Facebook is expected to hold an all-hands meeting today to discuss privacy concerns, responding to a perception that Facebook has little respect for its users’ privacy.

Facebook, which has taken a PR beating (again) for showing a perceived lack of respect for user privacy (again), is apologizing (again) for doing a poor job at communicating with its members (again). To make sure it doesn’t happen again (again), the company plans to hold an all-hands meeting this afternoon, according to inside sources who tipped off the All Facebook blog.

The internal meeting comes two days after Elliot Schrage, Facebook’s VP for public policy, conducted a written Q&A from New York Times readers on the Bits blog. The post featured some pretty frank questions from readers who clearly see a financial motive for Facebook increasingly pushing the limits with revisions to its privacy policy.

More importantly, the exec was asked a simple question about why everything is set up for opt-out instead of opt-in, forcing people to go into the settings to re-adjust their privacy controls. Schrage’s answer, while truthful and honest, was also borderline arrogant - something that could hurt the company if readers (like me) perceive that to be taken in a “you don’t have to be a member if you don’t like our rules” kind of way. His short answer: “Everything is opt-in on Facebook. Participating in the service is a choice.” Another answer to another related question: “Joining Facebook is a conscious choice by vast numbers of people who have stepped forward deliberately and intentionally to connect and share.”

He’s right. And not participating in the service is a choice, too. I mean, I made a conscious choice to join - and then leave - sites like AOL and MySpace. I can’t help but repeat what I said in a post here last week: Repeated blunders around privacy that could have been solved with some simple communications could put Facebook at risk of heading down the paths of MySpace or AOL.

I almost wanted to think that the company was calling its meeting in response to my post - I know, I flatter myself - but Schrage’s answers in the NYT Q&A tells me that that’s not the case. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why Facebook is so hell-bent on making its users go to this page or Like that page or otherwise go searching for the materials meant to protect them when Facebook has the means to instantly communicate with every one of its members - either by wall post or email. From one of his answers:

We will soon ramp up our efforts to provide better guidance to those confused about how to control sharing and maintain privacy. Anyone interested in these topics should become fans of the About Facebook Page and the Facebook Site Governance Page — two valuable sources of information that already provide regular updates to more than 8 million users. We will also expand the education information in our Privacy Guide to offer much more specific detail on these topics. Additionally, other upcoming announcements will dramatically improve how we communicate about change.

I certainly hope some of those other dramatic improvements involve reaching out to the members, instead of forcing them to seek out the information on their own.I know I’ve had to change my settings a few times on Facebook and have been forced to agree to things that I wasn’t really sure about - but it wasn’t until I saw this massive chart in the New York Times.
One of the ways I gauge how shady and sneaky a company might be is to review its privacy policy from time to time. I haven’t done that with Facebook in a really long time - but the NYT did. It’s amazing to me that the NYT’s Privacy Policy has grown from just over 1,000 words in 2005 to nearly 6,000 words today.

Props to the NYT for pointing out that that’s about 1,300 words more than the U.S. Constitution. That sure is a lot of CYA text.

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Privacy concerns? Not an issue when you just dump Microsoft Windows according to one ZDNet blogger.
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I have to agree as well
Cylon Centurion Updated - 13th May 2010
@Loverock Davidson

All your Facebook problems can be solved by dumping Windows. Despite the fact that Facebook lives on the Internet and not you PC, it is still the fault of Windows. It's not like users of Linux and Mac can be phished.... No that'll never happen....

Mr. Perlow really did jump the gun, and I am quite upset he never took the time to really figure out what happened.
@NStalnecker

Agreed.

I'll occasionally take a quick glance at his articles, but frankly I just don't take Mr. Perlow seriously anymore.

Honestly, from reading his articles it *does* sound like he already didn't like Windows from the beginning, and the incident was merely a good excuse to publicly declare he was switching to Linux.

. . . and he also wrote an article with some pretty childish remarks about Paul Thurrott, a blogger and podcaster I enjoy listening to. I'm thinking to myself "seriously? Why do I put up with this?"

After that, I've been moving myself to Google Reader and just using RSS to pull in articles from specific authors. It's not really worth it to follow him anymore.
Can I just laugh here?

LD, I've not agreed with you on all things, but on this one? You're right. Just get rid of Windows, and all problems will be solved. It's Windows. Ask ZDNet, they'll tell you.

I AM amazed at all the "recent" concerns about Facebook, since that article about the malware that caused one of ZDNet's own to abandon the Windows OS to the point of "I'm just going to chain you to the wall. I know I need you, but you can't be trusted". (Mind you, he had previously written an article about why he COULDN'T leave Windows entirely.)

Times change, people change.

Me? Further down. No apologies

Now if THAT wasn't a D**k-swinging contest, I've never been in one. And of late, I have apologized publicly on forums for my stupidity in sometimes leading these idiot gatherings.

(One last time, for old times' sake.)

Get rid of Windows, no more problems! BTW, before you flame, I use Ubuntu, OS X, and Win (pick your flavor) DAILY. It won't work with me. Give me facts, we can talk. Flames? You look ignorant doing it. Or haven't you realized this by now?

M.
@mcswan454

"Give me facts, we can talk."

FACT: A phishing attack relies only on an email and a browser. No OS is ever involved.

Therefore: Switching OSes will never solve all problems.
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Facebook renames to
TxM2xTx 13th May 2010
Faceplantbook. Smack in your face, no privacy. If you have it, it's now theirs.
Here is a fun (but not so useful) way to look at the facebook privacy policy
http://buzzintechnology.com/2010/05/facebook-privacy-muddle-through-wordle/
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Yes,It is the same to google plus.

Yes,It is the same to google plus.
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good idea about facebook
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good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 2nd Oct
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