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The 3D scam: Reject and repeat

By | April 22, 2011, 7:00am PDT

Summary: The entertainment industry keeps trying to push 3D on consumers. A lot of smart people have already caught on to the fact that it’s scam, and it’s time for more consumers to join the boycott.

Last Friday, I departed from my normal business technology beat to talk about the geek entertainment event Game of Thrones. This week I’m going to plug into our Friday Geekend theme again, but this time the topic is something more nefarious — the entertainment industry’s misguided scam of the public.

The 3D gimmick has sadly infiltrated movies and television and is now threatening to infect video games and smartphones as well. There’s only one reason why the entertainment industry keeps relentlessly pushing this at consumers — it’s a transparent attempt to bleed more money out of people. And, while a lot of consumers have caught on to the scam, not everyone is doing enough to stop it.

3D is definitely NOT about innovation, as the industry would like you to believe. In fact, adding the current 3D effects to a movie or video of any kind subtracts from the picture. It muddies the colors and unsharpens the images, and it has to slow down the action shots because it makes people sick if things go too fast in 3D. In fact, optometrists estimate that up to 25% of people get headaches or nausea from simply watching 3D at all.

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My first hint at the 3D scam was in October 2009 when Toy Story and Toy Story 2 were re-released in the theaters as 3D movies. My kids were excited to see Toy Story on the big screen for the first time so we gladly ponied up the extra money to see the 3D version of the double feature. We weren’t very far into the first movie before I realized that the quality of the colors and images were actually worse in 3D. That was a big disappointment. Even my kids said that the 3D wasn’t as exciting as they thought it would be. There went an extra $24 down the drain ($3 extra for 3D for four people for two movies).

Of course, the Toy Story movies were standard 2D movies that were converted to 3D (which is actually the way most “3D” movies are still handled). So, what about movies that are natively shot with special 3D cameras, such as Avatar? I’ll admit that when I first saw Avatar in the theaters I was impressed at how well it wove in the 3D effects. But, my admiration wore off once I saw it on Blu-ray on a 240Hz LED TV and quickly realized that all of the colors and action shots suddenly came to life and really popped off the screen. That’s when it fully dawned on me what a horrible scam 3D really is. They are making us pay more money for a gimmicky, inferior experience. Sure, there are a few neat moments in most 3D movies, but the novelty wears very off quickly and it’s certainly not worth the trade-off in picture quality or action sequences.

I had started to see this coming a little sooner, and I should have pounced on it. Back at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show, I was dazzled by the new LED TVs that Samsung showed off at its big press conference. The images were so sharp and the colors were so bright that the picture almost felt three dimensional. Plus the TV themselves were amazingly thin.

The next year, at CES 2010, I was surprised to see all of the TV manufacturers including Samsung pushing TVs with 3D glasses. I immediately felt like this was a step backward. I didn’t want to mess around with watching TV with 3D glasses. I wanted to see more super thin TVs with amazing pictures (at even better prices) like the ones I had seen the year before. After consumers rejected 3D TVs in 2010, the companies tried to come back at CES 2011 and pitch “no glasses” 3D. I wanted to shake my head and do a face-palm every time one of these electronics vendors mentioned 3D.

This is a bad detour for the entertainment and electronics industries, and they stubbornly refuse to let it die. In fact, they keep trying to push 3D on us, since many of these new products have been in planning for a year or two (before consumers started catching on to the 3D scam). The movie industry and movie theaters try to force us to only be able to watch some of their top movies in 3D (and pay extra for it). TV makers are forcing 3D into all of their new top-of-the-line LED TVs (and trying to make us to pay extra for it). Content companies are now making their Blu-ray/DVD/Digital Copy bundles include 3D discs (and trying to make us pay extra for it). Game companies such as Nintendo are integrating gimmicky 3D into their new systems. Mobile computing vendors such as HTC and LG are even trying to put 3D into their smartphones and tablets.

There’s only one way to stop the madness. Avoid 3D whenever possible.

This is a bad experiment that the industry is forcing consumers to subsidize. And since they can’t create a better product, they’ve simply latched on to 3D as a marketing ploy that the entertainment and electronics industries can use to trick people into thinking that they are getting a superior experience. It’s only working because just enough people are falling for the scam to keep it alive.

A lot of smart people have already sniffed this out and are avoiding 3D entertainment. It’s time for the rest of the public to reject 3D and stop being cheated.

It’s not that we don’t want innovation in real life imaging. Of course, we do. We just want real innovation, and don’t want to pay for badly-overpriced gimmicks and half-baked experiments.

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    Grizzly36 24th Feb
    For the record, I love it! have since seeing the "House of Wax" in the 50's. I suppose high tech cars are scams too, and should be avoided at all costs. Nothing better than a valve in head in line 4 cylinder engine connected to a manual 3 speed tranny, distributor with "points and condenser", single barrel carb, AM radio with no AC.
    Somebody is scamming somebody, but who?? Try driving with a patch on one eye, and of course everything must be in greyscale (Black and White). How about "stereo" sound, or 5.1 or 7.1. Seeing a 2D movie with "3D" sound is anachronistic. Be free, enjoy 3D TV (Direct TV 3D channels) and movies. If you choose to dislike it that is your choice - but don't perpetrate your mal-content with 3D to others.
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    Rama.NET 22nd Apr 2011
    Yes, I totally agree. Real 3D is not real "real" 3D. It is just a good old gimmick. The original 3D that we had in 20th century looks more natural and realistic with blue and red glasses than these real 3D.
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    Loverock Davidson Updated - 23rd Apr 2011
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    Rama.NET 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson
    Well, it may not be totally scam, but needing a sensor that is not a standard among all TV vendors and matching glasses to watch TV is ridiculous. If I buy Samsung TV, I have to buy Samsung 3D Bluray Player and Samsung Glasses only, same is true with other manufacturers and that is totally an orchestrated rip off I think.
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    Ez_Customs 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson TOdays Glasses, WHAT? The Shutter and Checker board methods have been aroudn sense 8Bit gaming Consoles, and they cost just as much then as they do now. But methods liek IZ3d the glasses cost a small 20 bux, work in THeaters, and kick but. The Technology to use it on TV and PC monitors is high in price, but totally worth it if you buy into it thinking I won't use it 100%! I am thinking that anyone who bashes this technology is thinking in the wrong way, and or doesn't know the history or technology benefits correctly
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    snoop0x7b 22nd Apr 2011
    @Rama.NET I actually like the circular polarized 3d better than anaglyph 3d because anaglyph distorts color and shifts the two images towards red and blue, whereas polarization does not require any color change.

    I think the issue is 3d is so affordable that anyone can do it, so people who don't understand how to do it right do it. And not only that, people are adapting non-stereoscopic footage (footage shot with one camera) to 3d, and that's just jarring.

    When done right, 3d actually looks pretty good.
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    Rama.NET 22nd Apr 2011
    @snoop0x7b
    >>I think the issue is 3d is so affordable that anyone can do it, so people who don't understand how to do it right do it. And not only that, people are adapting non-stereoscopic footage (footage shot with one camera) to 3d, and that's just jarring.

    >>When done right, 3d actually looks pretty good.

    I totally agree with you.
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    Real 3d is a holodeck...
    i8thecat 22nd Apr 2011
    Current 3D sucks... Even when done right.

    3D has always sucked and has always fallen short of imagination. Old glasses, new glasses, no glasses, it all sucks.
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    kroguej@... 22nd Apr 2011
    I wouldn't go out and buy a TV to get 3D, in that way its a scam. But if I was already in the market for a TV, why not? The best TV's on the market today feature 3d, so you might as well get it anyways.
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    The Danger is Microsoft 22nd Apr 2011
    @kroguej@... - No. I saved $300 US on a Panasonic 60" Plasma HDTV instead of getting the same branded (Panasonic Viera) 3DTV version. Ain't no way I'm gonna wear glasses to watch TV! And pay more or the 3D Blue-Ray instead of HD Blue-Ray, etc.
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    tonymcs@... 22nd Apr 2011
    @Rama.NET

    I'm beginning to think movie theatres are a scam too. I'm always suprised as to how good a movie looks on a 50" LCD/plasma/led screen rather than that the washed out grains or pixels of large projection units. I can also see the whole screen and pick out details rather than moving my eyes back and forth across a theatre screen. Action and Fight scenes that are a chaotic mess in the theatre, look much better in your loungeroom.

    As for 3D films, a lot of them also look better at home wink
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    And part of the theater experience is being a part of an audience while watching a movie.
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    nickitnite 22nd Apr 2011
    @Rama.NET
    Even if we had REAL 3D it will never stick People don't fill there houses with Statues of them self and family moments no they take good old 2D photos. I think with the added 3D we miss the Artistic side of 2D so we will always go back to 2D. Even now we still make movies in black and white and use film cameras instead of Digital ones for the artistic touch.
    I I will not see a movie because it's 3D I will avoid it because it is. I see movies because I like the actors or the director or it has a good plot.
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    Jimster480 24th Apr 2011
    @Rama.NET yea 3D sucks overall. It really does.
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    Loverock Davidson Updated - 23rd Apr 2011
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    Rama.NET Updated - 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson
    Well I agree with you, and those sensor glasses used for TV will give headaches to some people (at least they are in millions, so not minority). Yes, I also watch 3D movies in theaters but not on a TV, even though I own a 3D TV with 3D Bluray player and 4 sets of glasses. You really don't feel silver screen presentation experience on a TV, even if you are not getting headache. I had good opinion on this before I bought into the set, but after watching few, I really never liked it.
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    Jimster480 24th Apr 2011
    @Rama.NET yea I often get a headache when watching something in 3D.
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    rally2xs 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson I like 'em too, and am looking forward to setting up a 3D system at home. Will do so when Avatar 3D is out for everybody, AND I get the $$$ together.
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    mjmayerhofer 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson Do you really think they will keep making these expensive 3D movies if they cannot sell you the TV and Glasses and then the Blu-Ray 3D movie? They will shelve this stupid idea just like they did back when they could find a way to sell the product back in the 80's for more then a few bucks. The industry is about one thing and it is not entertaining you, it is about making money. Avatar didn't make enough money in the theater to cover all of the expensive stuff they had to make so they sold the equipment they used to make the movie and that brought them into the green then Blu-ray/DVD sales really made them money. I loved a few movies in 3D in the IMAX too but I noticed my kids always complain when we go to a 3D movie and always ask to see it in 2D and I always tried to push going to see 3D at first but then when I started seeing these movies on regular Blu-Ray on my 73in 1080p I saw how much clearer it really was in 2D. But I will also go to see a select few in 3D but I'll tell you what, Tron 2 was much better in 2D then it was in 3D.
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    richard233 22nd Apr 2011
    @mjmayerhofer Well, I mostly agree except the part about Avatar not making enough money. After all, it made $2.7 BILLION at the box office, the all time record for unadjusted dollars. Cameron plans to use the tech to make additional movies, and why not, for him its been very, very profitable. Not sure what the DVD and Blue Ray stuff made, but I'm sure it did quite well too.
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    dave0420 23rd Apr 2011
    @mjmayerhofer
    lol -the top grossing movie of all time -and it didnt make enough money in the theater........this is why I normally avoid reading responses on this site.
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    snoop0x7b 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson Some 3d movies are done really well and it adds to it. I definitely agree with you on that. But some of them are just 2d footage that's been reprocessed by a computer, and that just looks like crap. Tron and Avatar were both pretty cool in 3d. Something like Jackass 3d is just crap.
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    kroguej@... 22nd Apr 2011
    The thing I noticed with tron was after a while I really didn't notice it.
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    TRON wasn't a 3D movie
    wackoae 22nd Apr 2011
    kroguej@... TRON was only PARTIAL 3D and only the full CGI scenes were in 3d while the "actor" scenes were in 2D.

    Not trolling. I took my glasses off during the movie and found out it was only partial 3D.
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    Linux Geek 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson
    same here. The theater experience is the only one worthy of my $$$.
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    @Linux Geek While IMAX provide a HUGE enhancement to the movie experience, not a single movie today has being "enhanced" by the stupid 3D.

    Avatar was visually impressive, but there was NOTHING impressive that required 3D. TRON was not in 3D ... only the CGI scenes were 3D and the scenes with actors were in normal 2D.

    The only really enjoyable 3D experience I have had is the Honey I Shrunk the Audience attraction at Disney.
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    What do you like about 3D movies?
    wackoae 22nd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson

    The same old gimmick of throwing stuff at the camera?
    The additional $6 per movie ticket with no benefit?

    To this day, not even Avatar's impressive visual (abd only the visuals ... because the plot was crap) were worth the 3D price tag. In fact, I believe IMAX is a much better technology and for some reason, it is being replaced by crappy 3D garbage.
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    Patrick Aupperle 23rd Apr 2011
    @Loverock Davidson Wow, you always seem to be in the minority. I also like 3d movies, but will never pay for a 3d TV. When a movie comes out at the theaters and there is a 3d version, that is the one I see.
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    dmpartners 22nd Apr 2011
    I love 3D can't understand why you would write a article saying its a scam 50 million 3DS sold so far not a scam.
    3D is here to stay no matter how many dumb articles are
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    barefoot1976 22nd Apr 2011
    @dmpartners Mmm---Lets's see, Millions of consumers have visual and other problems with 3D? Sounds like a real reject to me. I'm like another poster in that 3D has NO effect for me due to a weak left eye. Therfore I reject paying for a system that is of no use to me! Samsung-Please continue to improve 2D and lay off the Hollywood driven hyped sets!
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    cgarrett 22nd Apr 2011
    @barefoot1976 I suppose you want the same for the 1 in 10 color blind males, so let's forget distinguishing between red and green colors, too. Black and white TV's for all, just to be safe! Or maybe just radio - we don't want to forget the blind!
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    SlithyTove 23rd Apr 2011
    @cgarrett

    Considering that a tv in color looks just like, well, real life to color blind people, it's not really the same thing is it?

    And considering that something like 1 in 5 people have some sort of issue which detracts from or destroys the ability to watch 3D movies it is something the studio has to take into consideration. If even one person in a family has issues with 3D, then none of them are likely to go see the movie when it's family night out nor are they likely to purchase a 3D tv.
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    g-man_863 22nd Apr 2011
    At least 50 million people have also purchased "male enhancement" and "miracle diet" pills they saw on late night TV.

    'nuff said wink
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    Economister 22nd Apr 2011
    Who is forcing you? Just don't buy it/pay for it. They'll get the message sooner or later. Stop blaming the companies for the consumers being suckers.
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    SlimSam 22nd Apr 2011
    @Economister
    I didn't get the feeling he was blaming marketers for marketing. He was just doing his part to help reduce the ratio of suckers. I appreciate it.
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    I appreciate that too
    Economister 22nd Apr 2011
    @SlimSam

    I just objected to the sentence "This is a bad experiment that the industry is forcing consumers to subsidize."

    Nobody is forcing me to buy or pay for anything. If the industry chooses to go in a direction I do not like, I am perfectly happy to sit on the sidelines until the industry comes to its senses again.

    As I have said before. the consumers have a LOT of power, but they act too much like sheep to use it. Industry/advertisers know that this is generally true, so they manipulate and mislead, almost with impunity.
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    snoop0x7b 22nd Apr 2011
    @Economister How can you really expect the market to shift if you don't tell others why you feel that way? I think part of the free market is communication. Regardless, some movies are exclusively in 3d in theaters, which is just assinine.
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    Traxxion 23rd Apr 2011
    @Economister
    Actually the article clearly points out that the industry is trying to force the change through by showing some movies in 3D only, even though it compromises the overall experience.

    Less suckers = win
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    Robert Hahn 23rd Apr 2011
    @Traxxion You're right: they are forcing the change. I had no desire whatsoever to see Avatar, but they sent ninjas to my house to abduct me and haul me off to the theater.
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    Traxxion 24th Apr 2011
    @Robert Hahn

    No Robert, YOU are right! No, honestly I see the light now. After all the industry would NEVER resort to such tactics as releasing 3d only films and charging more for the privilege so they can boost their profits.

    FYI - I preferred Avatar on BluRay in HD to the gimmicky 3D with irritating glasses. But then I'll probably have to sit through that same crud with every film released soon because of eejits like you.
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    hoaxoner 22nd Apr 2011
    Glasses free 3D?? Might be interesting.
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    You want real 3D???
    Ludovit 22nd Apr 2011
    Go watch live theatre ... it's way better ...

    JMHO

    Ludo
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    pjpreilly 22nd Apr 2011
    @Ludovit & It's been 3D forever!
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    mjmayerhofer 22nd Apr 2011
    @Ludovit I agree but how do you put something like Toy Story 3 on stage? Live theater is boring to most people and especially to kids and to see anything good most people have to travel pretty far to get to Broadway. But I know you were just being sarcastic.
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    kirovs@... 22nd Apr 2011
    @mjmayerhofer
    Boring to kids? Obviously you don't have kids or you did not go with your kids to a single theatre show...
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    Ludovit 23rd Apr 2011
    @mjmayerhofer

    That's part of the fun of live theatre ... waiting to find out how they do put something like Toy Story 3 on stage.

    There are LOTS of small theatres doing great productions of unknown stories ... when you go to the video store, do you always rent the blockbusters? Same with theatre ... go to a small theatre, watch an obscure play ... it may be a dud, it may be a gem ...

    And no, I wasn't being sarcastic ... I love movies (I have a 160" movie screen in my basement) but I also love live theatre ... and I like to compare the two. Stratford (here in Ontario Canada) did The Sound Of Music live on stage, it was fun to compare the two ...

    JMHO

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    When it comes to 3D...
    wolf_z 22nd Apr 2011
    ...nature short-changed me.

    For 3D to work you need two working eyes. My left eye is basically non-functional (peripheral vision yes, normal vision no), I lack depth perception, and I literally can't tell the difference between a 2D and 3D movie.

    The only 3D cues I get are when one object moves in front of another--which is the same in 2D and 3D! happy

    Glad to see depth perception doesn't help folks with normal eyes to see 3D either!
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    david@... 22nd Apr 2011
    @wolf_z ... me too, although mine was from a sports injury rather than nature.

    I actually don't particularly care whether 3D takes off or not as a technology as it is of no relevance to me, but I do object to being unable to watch movies I have been looking forward to on the big screen because my local cinemas decide that it isn't necessary to screen both the 2D and 3D versions.
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    I can't see color
    Robert Hahn 23rd Apr 2011
    @david@... Can we assume that you are willing to sit there and "object," or do you expect [pick one: the government|armed thugs|Superman] to come along and force movie theaters to accommodate your preferences? We're all going to be riding around blindfolded in wheelchairs, just to keep things fair, if this keeps up.
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    Grayson Peddie 22nd Apr 2011
    @wolf_z I am also blind in my left eye, too. It's when I was born that way. sad
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    I'm a mutant, I guess
    reziol 22nd Apr 2011
    @wolf_z
    When I went to see Tron 2 in the theatre, at first I thought it was just me that the glasses weren't working for. Since, I'm a bit the opposite of you - as I have depth perception even if I'm only using one eye. I learned I could do it when one day driving along, I got dust in my eye and still was able to drive and park perfectly as I had the one eye closed. And then I tried the other eye, and whoa, I still could judge the distances. So I was afraid that the effects weren't going to work for me. But, luckily, after all 8 of us in the theatre couldn't get it to work and I complained at the desk, they fixed the system and it was AWESOME!

    Now, I don't go to the theatre often enough to warrant the extra $3, but I wanted to see Tron on the big screen. And as others have pointed out, the systems seem linked by brand. I don't want to be forced to buy a particular TV to hook up to my particular DVD or vice-versa.
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    Grizzly36 24th Feb
    For the record, I love it! have since seeing the "House of Wax" in the 50's. I suppose high tech cars are scams too, and should be avoided at all costs. Nothing better than a valve in head in line 4 cylinder engine connected to a manual 3 speed tranny, distributor with "points and condenser", single barrel carb, AM radio with no AC.
    Somebody is scamming somebody, but who?? Try driving with a patch on one eye, and of course everything must be in greyscale (Black and White). How about "stereo" sound, or 5.1 or 7.1. Seeing a 2D movie with "3D" sound is anachronistic. Be free, enjoy 3D TV (Direct TV 3D channels) and movies. If you choose to dislike it that is your choice - but don't perpetrate your mal-content with 3D to others.

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