The real deal behind Microsoft Live, politics and ODF and more (The Dan & David Show)

The real deal behind Microsoft Live, politics and ODF and more (The Dan & David Show)

Summary: In this latest episode of the Dan & David Show Microsoft's Windows and Office Live is at the top of the show. Bill Gates and Ray Ozzie demonstrated (actually the demos were full of glitches) that Micosoft taking its learning from MSN, bCentral and competitors to turn the ship around services.

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In this latest episode of the Dan & David Show Microsoft's Windows and Office Live is at the top of the show. Bill Gates and Ray Ozzie demonstrated (actually the demos were full of glitches) that Micosoft taking its learning from MSN, bCentral and competitors to turn the ship around services. It's not about technology--Google, Yahoo and Microsoft are playing leapfrog. It's about having a Web platform that doesn't require Windows or Office and garnering ad (Microsoft's forthcoming adCenter) and subscription dollars. It's also about being a hub for deep engagement with users and user generated content.  

In the ongoing Commonwealth of Massachusetts vs. Microsoft saga, David gives his take on the politcally charged Senate hearings in Massachusetts, where the authority of the state's IT department to standardize on formats for storing public documents was questioned and state officials demanded more time to study the potential impact of setting the OpenDocument Format (ODF) as a standard. In addition, an economic stimulus bill was suddenly amended with text that could subjugate all IT procurements and decision making to a special task force. David also rants about Sony's DRM root kit. The podcast can be delivered directly to your desktop or MP3 player if you're subscribed to our podcasts (See ZDNet’s podcasts: How to tune in), or you can just download the MP3.  Let us know what you think.

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  • Corrupt Politicians

    It's supposed to be illegal for business entities like Microsoft to influence or conduct any unauthorized deals with politicians. This should bring up an enquiry into conflicts of interests and ethics. Shame on corrupt politicians.
    IT-sys
    • MS pulling strings???

      Mr. Berlind:

      I've followed several of these TalkBacks in the past week. The general theme is that MS is buying MA politicians. So far, no one has even identified a MS lobbiest in MA!

      How about looking at state records that show how much lobbying groups are spending and who is spending! I'm sure MA has some kind of disclosure requirements.

      Put the corruption thing to bed. Either get some proof, or quit howling about how ODF is losing to MS money. You know, it might be that the IT dude (Quinn) just massivly upset the user base and the politicos smell blood in the water!

      Please get some proof before broadcasting that MS is doing bad things! Otherwise, you ought to take FUD as you middle name.
      theoldman59
  • Love your columns and podcasts...

    I try to read/listen to your thoughts almost on a daily basis. You are the premium print/voice act on the web that speaks to the various issues in the technology universe, and this is just a quick "thanks"....Ashok Mansukhani
    techknow9
  • What did you expect?

    The Microsoft Windows & Office Live show was the other side of the coin being battled for in MASS. The Live.Com show WAS the overt part of the battle being waged behind closed doors in Mass. Microsoft can say without too much irony that they did not hinder or lobby the politicians in MASS from reaching their decision to trash ODF. (Even though I can't prove it, if they DIDN'T have lobbists in MASS representing them in proxy, they are stupider than anybody thinks they are.)

    What I find especially interesting is that MS had to do anything at all to respond to the threat of Google/eBay/Yahoo et al with what evidently was a really hasty and poorly tested product. The last time something similar happened to MS they were about to lose a major influence in how people used/experienced the Internet 10 years or so ago. I think panic ensued when they discovered that having 95% of the desktop market meant its going to be really hard to make that last 5% and make money off of it UNLESS they get into the services business. Not to mention the fact that all of the survivors of the dotCom implosion are now making some serious bucks. More power to them.

    Maybe they think this is stage 2 and they didn't have anything ready this time either. Maybe they've become the next "IBM-asaurus", too big to compete effectively except to thrash around before the velociraptors take them down.

    BTW everything BillyGee said in his jargon-loaded soundbite sounded more like Roaming Profiles on steroids. The server functionaly was most likely .NET with ASP and heavy reliance on ActiveX crap or Java being dropped onto the desktop that obviously will work better if that desktop HAPPENS to be running Windows. My bet is that they didn't have a Linux desktop in sight and it probably wouldn't run on the Linux desktop. I'll bet that he wants to take the next step and offer this software/server combination to businesses a la Google Search Engine style. Maybe that way he can get more penetration into small to mid-range IT shops that insist on NOT upgrading their Win2K systems to XP or "Vista-land".

    I feel like renting a Godzilla or Jurassiac Park DVD and getting some popcorn! (That lawyer in the porta-potty was always a MS lawyer to me!)
    Xwindowsjunkie
  • The real deal is that people

    have cery short attention span and need to be fed with different
    buzzwords every 4-6 months. The the impression remains that
    MS is working on some .... stuff.

    What ever happened to .NET? Trashworthy Computing Initiatives?
    Longhorns/shorttails?

    I am amazed at the BS absorption capacity of the modern
    consumer though. Imagine if some evil politician tries to exploit
    the wide-spread unintelligence.....

    -mm
    michael_t