The touch computing digital divide: Is the mouse dead?

Summary: Microsoft kills its Courier dual screen tablet. HP's Slate may be on the rocks. Apple's Steve Jobs pans Adobe for catering to the mouse crowd. And HP buys Palm in a move to grab the WebOS. The common thread: The mouse is dead.

Microsoft kills its Courier dual screen tablet. HP's Slate may be on the rocks. Apple's Steve Jobs pans Adobe for catering to the mouse crowd (among about  other reasons). And HP buys Palm in a move to grab the WebOS, which will presumably power smartphones as well as tablets from the company.

The common thread: There's a digital divide in the tech industry between operating systems that are touch and gesture based and applications geared toward the trusty mouse and keyboard.

The last 72 hours in tech-ville have been very interesting. There are multiple takes you can do. On the surface, you can always go with the corporate war approach: Apple vs. Adobe and HP vs. everyone in IT and HP alienating Microsoft as a partner. Or you can go with the mobile OS domination hook. After all, Microsoft's Courier is dead and HP's Slate could be in jeopardy because Windows 7 doesn't quite cut it as a system for a tablet. HP bought Palm for the WebOS and was very clear that the operating system will be on tablets. Mobile OSes---iPhone, Android and now WebOS---will rule the tablet roost.

However, all of these skirmishes boil down to a debate over the future of computing. The gesture and touch is replacing the mouse. If you're a developer you may have to ultimately pick a side.

Say what you will about Jobs' ode to Adobe's Flash, but the Apple CEO nails it when he lays out a touch computing world.

Flash was designed for PCs using mice, not for touch screens using fingers. For example, many Flash websites rely on “rollovers”, which pop up menus or other elements when the mouse arrow hovers over a specific spot. Apple’s revolutionary multi-touch interface doesn’t use a mouse, and there is no concept of a rollover. Most Flash websites will need to be rewritten to support touch-based devices. If developers need to rewrite their Flash websites, why not use modern technologies like HTML5, CSS and JavaScript?

Even if iPhones, iPods and iPads ran Flash, it would not solve the problem that most Flash websites need to be rewritten to support touch-based devices.

Now that's a loaded statement for sure, but if you strip out a little chest thumping the message is clear: We're headed to a touch-based world.

And when you boil down the HP-Palm acquisition you get the same feeling. Todd Bradley, executive vice president at HP, said there will be multiple form factors for tablets and home content consumption devices. HP has been playing with touch interfaces and Palm's WebOS would seal the deal.

It's not surprise that touch enabled operating systems are beginning to dominate everything outside of the PC. Tablets, smartphones and other newfangled devices will be all about touch. Two generations from now the mouse could be an artifact.

Motorola co-CEO Sanjay Jha talked a bit about converged devices on the company's earnings conference call. Those devices will likely be powered by another mobile operating system---Android.

I had always assumed that mobile operating systems would move upstream a bit as new form factors emerged. What I didn't bet on is that the mobile operating system would be potentially a dominant force that could make the mouse extinct.

The operating system at some point will need a rethink. The days of cramming a PC operating system on a new form factor---you don't see Apple trying OS X on a tablet---are just about over.

The big question is what will happen to software if touch dominates computing. Rewriting consumer applications and Web sites is one thing. But the enterprise application rewrite effort is almost impossible to ponder. Those rewrites are one reason that the touchscreen revolution is expected to bypass the enterprise---at least for now. In the not-too-distant future you may see a mouse as an entirely corporate affair with touch devices at home.

Topics: Tablets, Apple, Hardware, Hewlett-Packard, Laptops, Mobility, Operating Systems, Software

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  • Not sure....

    I think touch has great potential for certain computing devices no doubt. But for someone sitting at a desk doing something productive I don't think touch is any more productive in that situation. I am sitting here at my desk thinking would I want a touch screen monitor and all that or would I rather have a mouse? I think for desk computing the mouse will be around a long time. I can rest my arms on the desk and use only my fingers to move the mouse. Having a touch screen would require me to constantly lift my arms to make a move and well when you are moving through many apps that just doesn't seem like fun at all.

    So yeah for certain things its the greatest fit for others not so much. Its not really a one size fits all solution. Thats just my opinion.
    OhTheHumanity
    • I agree. Plus for graphics, a mouse or

      digitizing tablet is much more suited, and your hand isn't obstructing your view of the graphic your creating.
      John Zern
    • I have to agree

      Touch does seem to be the direction for the interface of the future but there is currently a significant gap between what you can realistically do via touch and when you require a mouse/stylus/other device.

      All I have to do is look at my daily job, even my daily personal use and ask, "if I had unlimited hardware, what could I do mouse vs touch?".

      Most of my computing requires a mouse.
      rhonin
    • you are not thinking 4th dimensionally...

      you won't be touching the monitor on your pc, you will be touching either a clear glass sheet that nags in front of your display, or is your display, or you will just gesture in the air and a "digitizing camera" will interperate what you are doing for the computer. Think Project Natal, now think what you could do with that technology if it cost 10x as much as the crappy version on the Xbox 360... computers are rapidly progressing to the level of "minority report" similar systems have already been constructed, currently only consumer cost is preventing it from being marketed main stream (and without the "power glove", didn't wear a glove in the movie?).

      remember microsofts table top computer? or the sphere computer? R&D and every major tech company is already working on mouse free computing, it is just a matter of getting to a reasonable cost for computers, and making it simple to use. watch the weather on MSNBC (I know, sorry it is another M$ product, but you don't tend to see apple doing anything, except putting macbooks in movies) and watch the news, the news and the weather people are using multiple GIANT touch enabled screens that are apparently just as sensitive as anything that apple has made. (where is this in the consumer mobile world, I don't know, probably a patent issue). just watch them for a while as they "pull up" the screens they are talking about, or fling them off the display to close them, I was very impressed the first time I saw it. And yes I am sure there is a guy on the side with an additional attached display to the same computer, and he is setting all of it up with a mouse... pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

      My main point is, the world HAS gone mouse free, we just can't afford it yet! so they are not marketing it or releasing the products to major retailers.
      aiellenon
  • The only good thing about a touch scree in if you

    have to enter a very simple order at a fast food restaurant where time is of the essence to keep a customer happy. I can't imagine lifting my arm up for a 8 hr period to make thing happen on a touch screen at my desk top..... think about the do overs from having large hands or a improperly set up touch screen ........ the whole idea your going replace a mouse with a touch screen is ridiculous ....only good banter here on Zdnet.
    Linux_Lives
    • holding your arm up for 8 hours...

      not able to do that just means you need to exercise... try yoga or a good martial arts class... your screen would not be "up in front of you" like they are now. a touch free PC (except the crap HP has been selling for years) would be at about the angle of your KB if you use the built-in legs at the back. between 10 and 25 degrees, not at a 70 - 90 degree angle.

      I remember reading somewhere that a company making a tablet pc had put a touch interface on the back of the device that was used like a touch pad, but was the exact size of the screen, and where you touched the back corresponded to the location on the fron that was affected. the device itself sounds like it'll bomb... after all, where are you going to hold it? but there is a way companies are "trying" find an alternate way to interface with your screen instead of putting your hands in front of it...
      aiellenon
  • You have nothing to worry about.

    Your bet was right. This won't happen. And the reason it won't is that the mouse and keyboard is a far, far better way to control a computer.
    I remember Bill Gates was going to have us all sitting in the office shouting instructions at the computers.
    peter_erskine@...
  • Engelbart & English FTW

    Douglas Engelbart put a lot of thought into the prototype design(s) of the mouse he is credited with inventing, all part of a larger project he was undertaking at SRI aimed at augmenting human intellect. Its design simplicity was geared for both effectiveness and convenience. Bill English at Xerox PARC later added the ball roller for enhanced movement, and here we are decades later using the same mechanical rodents.

    Bumping this basic but effective design concept with sticky fingers and mindless jabber prattle isn't going to come easily for the PC masses, other than where choice is limited - like hand held devices with their miniature form factors. Much in the same way the keyboard is the direct progeny of the typewriter, another device from yesteryear with a well thought-out design and ensuing track record adapted for computer use.

    Yammering away for all to hear, and gooeying up one's monitor screen, remain second fiddle choices to the status quo as I see it, even well into the 21st century.
    klumper
  • RE: The touch computing digital divide: Is the mouse dead?

    Touch certainly has its uses, and apple has done well to find and exploit them. Mainly, the applications seem to be in mobile situations where real-estate is limited and where content is being consumed rather than created.

    For any environment where you have a desk available, a mouse/keyboard combo is faster, more accurate, doesn't smudge your screen, doesn't inhibit your vision while using it, and is VASTLY more ergonomic.
    SlithyTove
    • Too true...

      The one single biggest annoyance I have with touch is the gook/grunge you leave on your screen.

      TO get a good sense of this, walk into any Best Buy / Fry's Electronis and take a look at the display model of the HP Touchsmart - ouch!
      rhonin
  • The mouse can not die because of touch

    Seriously you imagine people be really productive with touch screen without either mouse or keyboard ?
    For gosh sake even Apple has understood that even if iPad is mainly a consumption, a true keyboard could be needed for a significant amount of users.
    Only horizontal or almost horizontal touch based such as Surface can offer a minimum of productivity with only touch based interface.
    And even then the productivity use cases of surface like devices are quite limited.
    We shall see if Natal like tech could enable a comparable productivity to keyboard+mouse but sincerily i doubt that.
    timiteh
  • RE: The touch computing digital divide: Is the mouse dead?

    The mouse and keyboard won't die. They are too useful in the office setting. But one important fact to remember is that not all people are the same size. I am 6'3" tall and as such I have big fingers. I have a Zune HD and love it. Though it has one draw back for me. The keyboard. I have a hard time hitting the correct keys because the keyboard on the screen is small and it thinks I xselected adjacent keys instead of the one I was trying to. Forcing a touch screen situaution on the world will limit usage to tiny people. Or skinny people - which will drive the US down the technology ladder as obesity is such a problem here.
    stevejg61
  • Touch in the enterprise? Only where it makes sense

    We all know the use cases, like the doctor making his/her rounds, the insurance appraiser at the accident site, the inspector filling up his/her reports - maybe there will be more slate devices to pick from. But for someone on a desk, keyboard and mouse is the way to go.
    Roque Mocan
  • Keyboard still better

    at entering massive amounts of data. Touch just takes too long. Corporations won't like touch because its a waste of time and productivity.
    mstrsfty
  • Not gonna happen on desk

    The idea is silly on the face of it. The only reason touch is big on smallish handheld devices is that a) you don't have a mouse with you and b)the screen is too small for pinpoint accuracy, even if you did have a mouse. It makes perfect sense for a phone/tablet but no sense for a real computer. The only way this ever happens is if touch makes massive advances ala Minority Report but the Ipad isn't any closer to that than we were already.
    eggmanbubbagee@...
  • RE: The touch computing digital divide: Is the mouse dead?

    I know how touch screens work. If your mouse dies you just go out a buy a new one. They're cheap. If your touch screen dies you might as well buy a new system because the cost of fixing it will scare you.
    broiled
  • False dilemma.

    False dilemma.

    Touch is nice for some things, but:

    -It isn't accurate enough to replace a lot of mouse
    based activities.

    A big concern for accuracy is that a lot of touch
    based devices (those with capacitive technology) can't
    be used with styluses.

    Also, you don't really want to have your fingers over
    the screen for everything. A lot of games don't work
    well with the touch interface, and I don't imagine
    that walking up to a big screen TV and messing with
    onscreen controls is gonna be a big hit.

    -PCs aren't dying. Just because you have a mobile
    device available doesn't mean you'll stop using PCs at
    home or at work. The best way to write lengthly
    documents is still on a full size keyboard, and the
    best way to watch movies and play games is still on a
    large display.

    Keyboards and mice are still the best controls for
    large screen devices. Touch is nice for the smaller
    form factors, but not so much for the large form
    factors.

    IMO this is just a big false dilemma. Touch is nice
    for when you're mobile and don't want to break out a
    laptop, but when somebody sits down for an extended
    period of time, they expect to be using a laptop or
    desktop, and it simply doesn't make sense to use
    touch.
    CobraA1
    • False dilemma -- The formal fallacy kind

      I couldn't agree more. Well balanced, although with a chuckle; hinting at the formal fallacy of false dilemma.

      //S
      scallag
  • Re: Is the mouse dead?

    Not a chance! The mouse is more valuable then the
    keyboard. I'd rather deal with a click-able keyboard
    on my desktop then eliminate my mouse.

    The biggest complaint I have with a keyboard is
    Keyboard Shortcuts and inadvertently hitting one or
    more keys and having something happen to my work. Once
    I wasted hours undoing a shortcut when my work
    suddenly went to death screen blue with white text.

    Get rid of Keyboard Shortcuts but never the mouse.
    shanedr
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