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Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple

By | February 15, 2012, 2:09am PST

Summary: Tim Cook is the right person at the right time for Apple. Why? He’s better suited to fending off the hand grenades that come with being the most successful tech company on the planet.

Apple CEO Tim Cook talked Chinese working conditions, potential for a dividend, Apple TV and product cannibalization at a Goldman Sachs investment conference, but the biggest news may have been about the speaker himself.

Simply put, Cook is the right person at the right time for Apple. Apple and Cook are simply more likeable to me.

As I’m listening to Cook’s chat Tuesday with Rachel King who was on scene, it hit me that it’s hard not to root for the CEO a bit. The New York Times’ Nick Wingfield said Apple revealed Cook as its latest product. I believe the opposite. Apple revealed that it has moved beyond the CEO as product mentality. Let’s face it: Steve Jobs was a product. Jobs had a cult of personality. He had disdain for many things and would have never talked before an investor conference.

Cook comes off as the anti-Jobs in many respects. He’s not all that flashy. He’s a supply chain wonk. He doesn’t have all the answers, but is open to crazy ideas like a dividend of some sort. And he’s pretty forthcoming as Tuesday’s Goldman Sachs talk showed.

Related: Apple’s Cook bets on transparency to damp supply chain flapApple’s Cook discusses supply chain, will publish monthly updates | CNET: Cook the cannibal: Apple chief’s secret product recipe | Techmeme

Why does this matter? Cook’s approach, tone and personality will be better for Apple at this point in its history. The company is going to be a target on multiple fronts. For starters, Apple is getting singled out for its China supply chain conditions even though pretty much everything you own worked through the same production steps. And then there’s the inevitable regulatory issues. Naturally, there’s a lot of competition.

Cook can manage through those wild cards better than Jobs would have. It’s hard to imagine Jobs walking through the supply chain flap and coming off well. Congressional hearings? Forget about it. Jobs would have been a mess. Cook can juggle those hand grenades. Apple under Jobs had this religious aura and army of fanboys was created. Under Cook, the vibe is different.

Oh sure, Cook is competitive as hell and that’s good. Cook also said that Apple will be all about great products. But there’s also something more there. Cook is making his own way and Apple will evolve—just in time given that it’s going to be targeted immensely.

On the money front, Cook’s approach will also help Apple in business tech—a space that’s going to be huge for the company. Enterprise IT guys would cringe at Apple’s hipper-than-thou customers—there’s something to those Samsung ads folks—but Cook is one of them. He’s a former IBMer. Cook isn’t all about the showboating. That carries well.

Bottom line: Cook isn’t magnetic in a product keynote, but he’s doing the CEO gig his way. That way—a little bit of humble when you’re running the most successful tech company on earth—is going to be a huge asset for Apple going forward.

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Larry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and SmartPlanet as well as Editorial Director of ZDNet's sister site TechRepublic.

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Larry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and SmartPlanet as well as Editorial Director of ZDNet's sister site TechRepublic. He was most recently Executive Editor of News and Blogs at ZDNet. Prior to that he was executive news editor at eWeek and news editor at Baseline. He also served as the East Coast news editor and finance editor at CNET News.com. Larry has covered the technology and financial services industry since 1995, publishing articles in WallStreetWeek.com, Inter@ctive Week, The New York Times, and Financial Planning magazine. He's a graduate of the Columbia School of Journalism and the University of Delaware.

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leighraymondkennedy@... 28th Apr
Honestly, if you just want a smartphone, then the iPhone is just fine.

Me personally, I prefer Android as I can do more with it as a developer, so much more to the point you can make ROMs (custom versions) of it for your phone.

As far as the Apple vs Microsoft vs Google, I am impartial.
I prefer a Mac for a computer and an Android powered smartphone for a smartphone.

Basically, I prefer the linux/unix kernel instead of the windows one.
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No he's the anti Ballmer
SamWilkinson 15th Feb
Someone with intelligence, a great personality, isn't morbidly obese and doesnt throw furniture like a caged gorilla when he's angry.
@SamWilkinson that made my morning. 8)
@SamWilkinson ... Ballmer's whole thing is repeatedly announcing he isn't leaving as things at the Soft keep getting worse and worse.

...
The wit & wisdom of Stephen A. Ballmer:

"$500 fully subsidized with a plan! I said that is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard, which makes it not a very good email machine???. Right now we're selling millions and millions and millions of phones a year, Apple is selling zero phones a year. In six months, they'll have the most expensive phone by far ever in the marketplace and let's see???what's the expression? Let's see how the competition goes."

???Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer on the iPhone, January 2007


"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."

- Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer on the iPhone, April 2007

"Both [an iPhone and a Windows phone] are going to feel very good in your hand and both going to look very beautiful physically???. but when you grab a Windows phone and use it??? your information is front and centre??? and you don't have to scroll through seas of icons and blah blah blah.

A Windows phone gets things done."

- Telegraph 10/18/2011

Apple is a "cute, little, tiny niche guy." (February 2007)

"Apple iPod users are music thieves." (October 2004)

"I run every morning." (May 2007)

"Google is an advertising company. Apple is a hardware company. They're one-trick ponies." [USA Today]

"I'm going to f---ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to f---ing kill Google." [Sydney Morning Herald]
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@HollywoodDog Try a Windows Phone and then say its not a better Operating System. Windows 8 will bring Metro to the masses!!
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@HollywoodDog wow, dude get a life... LOL
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RE: Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple
GoldenAnswer Updated - 15th Feb
@HollywoodDog whatever you say doesn't have life. Bill or Ballmer, Microsoft was always profitable and profits had soared even in last quarter! The statement "Most successful tech company" as Apple is debatable. Apple is good agreed. Recently Apple was successful but still more sustainable is Microsoft. The most successful company is still Microsoft, 20 years they were on the top and no one was near, still Apple and Google has long way to go competing with Microsoft. The success of Apple is profound, but whether its sustainable is doubt full, they may or may not. But if they fail to come up with something like first iPhone in gaps it will remain a fanboys fantasy. Ipad is good but mostly it rides on the success of iPhone, result was obvious Android started capturing the market, Recent success of Lumia says windows phone is beating all negative sentiments and selling in millions. All this translates to bad news for Apple
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@HollywoodDog And Ballmer was kind of right. Apple dropped the price of the iPhone 1 by $200 within a month to $399 for the 8Gig. The iPhone 3G then dropped to $199 subsidized. It wasn't until then that they started selling.

Proper device encryption and encrypted email didn't arrive until the 3GS, so most Enterprises weren't even looking at it until then. Even then, there are a lot of BB shops because it is more granular.

Most Blackberries and a lot of 'Droids have keyboards, so there are still plenty of people who prefer that to a touch screen.
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@HollywoodDog Loverock flagged you by the way...he can't handle the truth.
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@GoldenAnswer "All this translatesto bad news for Apple"

The same Apple that has a stock price of $500 a share? Or is about to hit the $500 Billion market cap. Yeah horrible news.....just horrible.
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@HollywoodDog

This is a blog about a new CEO at Apple. Where does it mention Microsoft? Why do you feel the need to turn this into a discussion about Steve Balmer when he is not the subject or purpose for this blog? If you don't have anything of value to contribute to this topic then stop posting here!
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@smtp4me@...

But if HD only posted when he had something worthwhile to say, he would never post.
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And Balmer was right.
notsofast 25th Feb
If the iPhone still cost 600 bucks, it wouldn't sell millions/year. When the price dropped to $200 (which is roughly the standard subsidized price for top end smart phones), it was a different story. It also worked when they dropped the price on the 3g to 300 (or was it 400?) but ATT raised the price of plans (which was actually a bad deal for consumers, but whatever).

Once they lowered the price (and fixed some of the more glaring flaws, like no 3G and no cut/paste it became a great deal.
And I've heard very good things about the latest Windows Phone OS. But make no mistake, Windows Mobile 6 was crap. I just got an iPhone, and the juries still out for me. It's very smooth (much better than android, but I miss having a back button). Not thrilled with having all my email under one app either (mostly because it's a work phone and I'd like a separate app/notification icon for non-work email.
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Re: Congressional hearings
lumpy_blumpkin 15th Feb
"Congressional hearings? Forget about it. Jobs would have been a mess."

On the contrary - Steve Jobs at a Congressional hearing would've been the most awesome thing ever.
@lumpy_blumpkin Walks in... "When you guys fix your budget process call me back" ... walks out.
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RE: Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple
kstagg Updated - 15th Feb
@gtvr Seriously? Windows 8 is going to put iOS on notice. With the ability to have the SAME OS on the desktop, laptop (as everyone does now) and with Windows 8 - the TABLET, it's a new ballgame. Even the cellphones will be getting in the act, while not exactly the SAME OS, very similar.

Windows already has, what? 90% of the marketshare in OS? You can't tell me that is all industrial either. The only reason that Apple makes as much money as they do (and even before the iPad), is because they cost an exorbitant amount of money more than the competition. While they are beautiful - they're a like fashion models, beautiful on the outside, but after a while, they are high maintenance.

With non-iOS machines, you can switch out hardware at home at will. With iOS? Get in the car and go to your local Apple store.

Also, while I agree that Cook may seem more personable than Jobs (which - c'mon, a pit bull could claim that achievement), have you noticed any reduction in ridiculous lawsuits against the competition? I mean, they argued that in order for them to drop their suit against Samsung in Germany, Samsung would have to stop making the phone look rectangular with rounded edges, or black. I kid you not. Apparently rounded edges and black rectangular electronics weren't around before Apple.

Here is the link to that suit from Apple against Samsung:
http://vrge.co/tiVEH0

This was under Tim Cook's reign, not Jobs.

So much for a kinder, gentler Apple.
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"So much for a kinder, gentler Apple."

It will take time to undo the damage that Steve Jobs did. Have patience.
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Mcleary316 15th Feb
@gtvr thats exactly how it would go. They would say "touche" and that would have been the end of it.
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@kstagg ... even with its dominance on the desktop, it is by no means a foregone conclusion that Win8 ON WINDOWS PHONES will make any more headway than WP7 has. Same goes for the tablet, where MS is almost entirely a no-show, despite having truly been the pioneer of the market over a decade ago (much to MS' credit).

The desktop is a whole different animal, and I expect Win8 will eventually be the market-leading OS there. But it's gonna take a while -- a long while -- because businesses, many of which are still finishing up (or starting!) upgrading to Win7 aren't likely to take on another migration for several years. It's too costly with not enough to gain -- especially since the Win8 improvements mostly center around the mobile/tablet touch-centric interface, which will be of questionable/negligible importance on non-touch-enabled desktops and laptops. Nevertheless, I have no doubt that Win8 will eventually rule the roost on the desktop.

Incidentally, all the benefits that you mention -- of having the same OS on your desktop, laptop, tablet and phone -- are essentially available with Mac OS X and iOS, now that OS X has many of the iOS interface conventions (not that I particularly care for them). Under the skin, the two OSes are really based on the same OS, iOS just has a more restrictive interface and stricter sandboxing ... but even that's changing on OS X with the revamped sandbox that's due in the next month or so. Even many of Apple's apps for OS X now closely resemble their iOS counterparts, enabling folks to more easily jump from one device to the other with less retraining.

But if you really think about how people use their differing devices -- as many people smarter than I have been doing over the last few years -- it's at least reasonably clear that many people use their desktop/laptop quite differently from their tablet/phone, and that the needs are different. Thus, having the "same OS" isn't necessarily necessary: consumers don't particularly care, as long as their stuff works easily enough and plays well together. Hence the proliferation of Android phones and growing adoption of Android tablets.

As for "switching out hardware" at will ... independent studies have been done that show that only a very small percentage of users actually mess with the hardware in their PCs. In fact, that "phobia" is believed to be one of the major reasons that tablets like the iPad appeal to so many consumers: because they're seen as being completely different from a PC, simpler, less complicated. In any event, there isn't any hardware in an iPad or iPhone that can be switched out -- by Apple Geniuses, or otherwise, aside from replacement of failed components, which largely means a new logic board, new screen, or new battery.

Finally, most of the current lawsuits began under Jobs, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they continue. Despite the costs involved, winning injunctions against competitors does "magical" things for one's marketshare -- and bottom line. It's far cheaper than spending endless sums on R&D then having to organically "win" customers in a highly-competitive marketplace. Specifically, assume it costs Apple a few hundred thousand (if that) to win a temporary injunction against a company like Samsung; even if the injunction only lasts a couple months, Apple could sell millions of its products in that time, generating billions in revenue. That's a pretty sweet trade-off. Would you spend $200M to make a few billion? I would. It's purely a business decision. Beyond that, though, if Apple has valid patents, it has every right to defend those patents in court. And since Apple's patents rarely cover standards-critical technologies, it's in the enviable position of not having to license them to anyone else, unless it chooses to.

When you step back and think about it, the folks who want Apple to drop the lawsuits are essentially admitting that Apple built a better mousetrap: they want to be able to do the same thing, or something substantially similar. But the old adage of business is that whoever builds the better mousetrap wins. And patents exist solely to prevent people from blatantly copy someone else's design ... at least, not without making significant improvements to it. In this case, Apple has the "better" mousetrap from which companies want to copy design elements (interface, industrial design, whatever). If competitors wanted those elements, they simply needed to patent them first, before Apple did, then they could've prevented Apple from using them. And it's worth keeping in mind that Apple didn't invent the system (it didn't even "innovate" it or "ignite" it); it's just playing by the rules that others before it had crafted.
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@toddbottom2

It will take time to undo the damage Steve Jobs did?

I don't quite understand. In ten years, Steve Jobs took an almost bankrupt company and helped grow it into the world's largest company. (Depends on how the stock market is from day to day, of course.)

Are you saying that it will take ten years to transform Apple from the world's largest company back to a bankrupted shell of itself once again?

Are you hoping or predicting a Sun or HP type future for Apple under Tim Cook and his successors?

I really can't see what form of damage you claim Steve Jobs fostered on Apple, Todd. Especially considering all the good will that was expressed for him, his family and Apple after his passing.

Heck, they even awarded a Grammy posthumously to him last week.
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@jscott99

"If competitors wanted those elements, they simply needed to patent them first, before Apple did, then they could've prevented Apple from using them."

The important distinction in this age of patent acquisition is that much of that is not the way things are working these days (thus the importance for Google in their approval of acquiring Motorola Mobility). Big corps are now using patents for concepts they neither had no part in developing (beyond the organic process of adopting and evolving contemporary tech concepts) and have often never put into working concept themselves. The US patent system (because it needs to be remembered that it is your patent system that is allowing the likes of Apple to run a'muck on global scale) has gone from quite reasonably protecting IP to being used en masse to either ride on the coat-tails of the success of others or as a mallet with which to squash the competition
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At the iPhone 4S presentation I saw a little too much of Steve Jobs in Tim Cook. To be expected of course, since the speechwriters and team was the same.
To Cook's credit, he did give quite a bit of stage time to Forstall and Schiller.
At the next presentation, I would expect to see more of the real Tim Cook emerge.
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RE: Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple
JB5645 Updated - 15th Feb
"Jobs had a cult of personality. He had disdain for many things"
Disdain is precisely what makes Apple likeable. Disdain is part of the product : for years, Aplle invested heavily in negative advertising in order to build this Apple-versus-the contemptible-world image. So, I am not sure a more likeable CEO will make Apple more likeable. Poeple like Apple products precisely because they can buy (at a price whithin range of a barrista's salary) some microscopic share of the aura of the bully.
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You're mischaractarizing
HollywoodDog 15th Feb
@JB5645 ... Jobs certainly had a vision and no patience for employees who didn't get it. The disdain you saw in him there was impatience for those who stood in the way deliberately or through ignorance of him getting what he wanted, which ultimately is the Appleverse the market is so thoroughly embracing today.

The advertising wasn't about disdain. It showed a contrast between a somewhat tasteless business-oriented competitor, and Apples consumer driven product line, which the market didn't understand existed. The ads communicated a message that needed communicating at the time. And they were not heavy handed; the 'I'm a Mac/I'm a PC' campaign worked because the two guys obviously liked each other. I disagree that it was 'negative advertising'. It drew a contrast and used humor effectively to do so.
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RE: Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple
JB5645 Updated - 15th Feb
@HollywoodDog
The "Mac vs PC" campaign is only the tip of the iceberg. Apple used negative campaigns for decades (back to the famous 1984-spot that already diplays that childisch me-versus-the-soulless-world mentality). Then you can add Steve's rants (against PC, Android, and so on). So, yes, it seems to me contempt is part of the DNA of the brand.
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How was 1984 a negative ad?
HollywoodDog 15th Feb
@HollywoodDog ... Who was the victim of its negativity?

I thought it was about the empowerment of the individual.
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RE: Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple
JB5645 Updated - 15th Feb
@HollywoodDog... Yeah: "I, Mac-user, am the only free mind in a crowd of mindless robots." : empowerment of the individual in it's most primitive, childish, fantasy.
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@JB5645
Maybe it's the way you took it versus the way it was intended. Eeyore could make anything positive into negative just by speaking...
Apple has always been the underdog and still are. They've always had to tell their side of the story or be buried under the propaganda. They did it rather nicely without beating people over the head. Their commercials have been nothing but refuting the FUD spread by their competitors.
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No. Not at all as a matter of fact.
Cayble Updated - 15th Feb
@HollywoodDog

So so mis-characterized. But easy to see how that happens when one isn't on the receiving end of lies, and when they wish so hard the lies were true they come to believe them.

The advertising was very much about disdain. So much so it was outright insulting in the end. Many Apple commercials were actually packed with lies in the end, dressed up as humorous advertising. And they were insulting lies as well, much like the way a bully says horrible lies about some kid in the school yard he doesn't want others to befriend.

And here is an example of how these ridiculous lies persist:

" It showed a contrast between a somewhat tasteless business-oriented competitor, and Apples consumer driven product line, which the market didn't understand existed."

DUH? Choke cough...I beg your pardon???

I guess the 'tasteless business-oriented competitor' must be Windows? You have got to be kidding me. What a sick joke.

See, here is the lie. Windows does business light years better then Macs, so Windows certainly cannot provide entertainment value anything as good as Mac's. Its a lie. complete and outright.

Every time I have ever thought of laying out the big bucks for a Mac I simply could never hold the thought for more then a few minutes when I see how simple and easy it is for me to play all my games, listen to all my music, watch all my movies, view and edit all my pics, stream video, watch TV, listen to radio and do just about any piece of entertaining I want as easy and as intuitive as imaginable on any of my Windows computers.

And I guess Windows machines are supposed to be tasteless because the vast majority of OEM machines Windows shows up on are rather bland looking compared to Macs in most cases. On the other hand... when you buy a Mac you sure get a Mac, nothing more and nothing less and it had better be a great thing for you because when it comes to Macs thats all there is, one rather plain look in general depending on which exact model out of the few there are.

Far far from so when you go Windows. If there isn't a single OEM model out of the many dozens available that appeal to you, get one custom built, then your options are virtually limitless. And its cheap too.

The I'm a Mac/I'm a PC commercials only worked on a very minute limited basis. And that basis was it made some people laugh. And as time went on less were laughing to the point where many people just looked at them and said, "thats not really so funny as much as it is a bunch of lies". They sure didn't work in so far as increasing the Mac's share of the market to any degree.

So ya, Apple has been a whole lot about disdain and anything that moves them away from that is a big step in the right direction as far as the majority of the uninfatuated go.
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@HollywoodDog
Jobs' disdain was the external manifestation of his envy, primarily directed at Bill Gates, because in Jobs' opinionated imagination, Bill Gates wasn't as smart as him (Jobs) and yet became the world's richest man.
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@HollywoodDog
Jobs' disdain was the external manifestation of his envy, primarily directed at Bill Gates, because in Jobs' opinionated imagination, Bill Gates wasn't as smart as him (Jobs) and yet became the world's richest man.
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@HollywoodDog
Jobs' disdain was the external manifestation of his envy, primarily directed at Bill Gates, because in Jobs' opinionated imagination, Bill Gates wasn't as smart as him (Jobs) and yet became the world's richest man.
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Ha! No No No....You don't get it at all.
Cayble Updated - 15th Feb
@JB5645

While your right to one extent, your wrong to another.

"Disdain is precisely what makes Apple likable. Disdain is part of the product : for years, Aplle invested heavily in negative advertising in order to build this Apple-versus-the contemptible-world image."

Your right. Except for one part: Disdain is precisely what makes Apple likeable, should really read; Disdain is precisely what 'made' Apple likeable. And only to that oh so 'special' Apple fan base. Apple is no longer happy with only that particular fan base as they have come to realize that if they offer certain products that appeal to most people instead of just a special few, that most people will purchase the product. And sorry, but most normal people don't want or need the 'disdain' that in the past was practically a prerequisite of being an Apple product fan.

Apple has had to come to grips with the fact that the vast majority of people who own iPods, iPhones and even iPads also run Windows computers, both at home and work. And the odds of that changing in any significant way any time soon is pretty much nil.

I never thought of it before but its just so true. All the old time super hard core Windows/Microsoft hating Apple fans are now going to have to take a seat way back of the Apple users pack to the massive hoards of gadget purchasers who think Windows is just fine.

So funny when you think about it.
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@Cayble
"All the old time super hard core Windows/Microsoft hating Apple fans are now going to have to take a seat way back of the Apple users pack to the massive hoards of gadget purchasers who think Windows is just fine."

Oh, that was good. +1000
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yes and no
jscott69 15th Feb
@Cayble Having worked for Apple back in the Apple-vs-IBM and Apple-vs-Microsoft days, I can say quite equivocally that Apple's attitude wasn't intended to be one of disdain. At Apple, we didn't hate the IBM PC or Windows, we just thought we had a better solution that everyone should naturally like better. If the IBM PC and Windows never existed, Apple still would have had much the same attitude, but it would have been: "Why would you want to do things with pen and paper, when we have this insanely great, easy-to-use Macintosh that will do it all better?!" The PC and Windows and were almost irrelevant to Apple's attitude, they just happened to provide the contrast.

But you're absolutely right that Apple learned to look beyond the Mac customer base. That traces directly to iTunes. Had Apple not launched iTunes for Windows, I doubt very much that it would be where it is today. But iTunes for Windows made the iPod a viable product beyond Apple's typical customer base. (Switching to USB for its connection to a host computer was also critical, as only Macs used Firewire at the time ... or now. wink And Apple's own Avie Tevanian (former VP of software) said that Apple never intended to become the massive content provider that it is; that was just a happy coincidence. But it never would have happened without releasing iTunes for Windows; Apple's customer base at the time just wasn't big enough to provide critical mass.
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  Updated - 16th Feb
@Cayble Learn English, cretin. "your right"?! And 1 != 2; is != are; you're dumb as shi???t.

Windows is fine if it gets no use. 3-5 clicks to get anywhere, buried options, teleportant tabs, ghostly-clear windows upon [its many] stalls, awful drawing routines, lack of keyboard navigation and sixfold accessibility of MacOS (keyboard, cursor, terminal, script, speech, tasker), awkward modifier key layout, lack of key and cursor kord support, no true alt-keymap, fails GUI guidelines and Fitts' law, tracks users' activity without consent, costlier and slower upgrades and updates, a host of pissed-off users.
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@JB5645 ... they're creative and somewhat "artistic" (they've won numerous awards for them) and typically are used to point out the differences between Apple's products and those of established competitors.

It's "Think Different" campaign -- which was launched shortly after Jobs was restored to Power -- was specifically about that rebelious spirit, the drive to question the status quo, to challenge the establishment, and it celebrated folks who embodied that spirit. That wasn't disdain. And the "1984" ad was truly about the same sort of thing. Of course, it is ironic that now, one could definitely point to Apple being the establishment. It might even be one of those "careful what you wish for" things.
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@jscott69 My point is precisely that the Apple "rebelious"- spirit goes hand in hand with disdain. I can verify this from top (the former CEO's behaviour) to bottom (some Apple user's arrogance). This reflects also in the large part of negative ads in Apple's history: not all brands need to make fun of their competitors to exist. In a way, your post supports my point : Apple's is described "rebellious" : and so, contempt for the rest of the world becomes a likeable component of the brand. It's in the eye of the beholder : the way you feel toward Apple depends on wether you are able to read revolt where there is (also) disdain.
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@jscott69
"contempt for the rest of the world becomes a likeable component of the brand"

That can be said for any brand. If users don't like your competitors' products then that's definitely and advantage for you. So yes, MS has helped Apple a lot.
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I never have and never will - like Apple Inc.
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@AdnanPirota

I'm ok with that. I'm pretty sure Apple won't be too broken up about it either.
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ItsTheBottomLine 15th Feb
@jaypeg LOL apparently you are - LOL you commented.
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@ItsTheBottomLine
He doesn't sound too broken up to me.

More wishful thinking on your part?
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@AdnanPirota And the great thing about our society is that you don't have to buy anything from them, then. You can buy an Android phone, Windows phone, or, heck, even a Blackberry (while they're still around).

Apple's products aren't life-sustaining. They aren't essential. Lots of people like them. Lots of people don't. Go with the products that make you happiest. Life has enough drama, don't you think?
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leighraymondkennedy@... 28th Apr
Honestly, if you just want a smartphone, then the iPhone is just fine.

Me personally, I prefer Android as I can do more with it as a developer, so much more to the point you can make ROMs (custom versions) of it for your phone.

As far as the Apple vs Microsoft vs Google, I am impartial.
I prefer a Mac for a computer and an Android powered smartphone for a smartphone.

Basically, I prefer the linux/unix kernel instead of the windows one.
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@AdnanPirota We all know this but not sure that anybody cares, including Apple.
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Kodak
magallanes 15th Feb
Tim Cook and a more likeable Apple..... but Apple is demanding Kodak.

Apple likeable level = 0%
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Unless he supports adding the ability to run Flash content to iOS5, it doesn't help me that Apple is more likeable. WE try to meet the mobile learning needs of our customers and 95% of our eLearning won't work on the most populare tablets.
@edavis@... well, who the hells fault is that? You're standing still while the rest of the world is walking away from Flash.
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Yep, even Microsoft is going to stop supporting Flash on mobile devices.
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leighraymondkennedy@... 28th Apr
I couldn't agree more. Even my Android powered phone has issues with Flash.

I guess that sort of makes Steve Jobs right.

...I can see the comments rolling in to rebuttal my comment already...

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