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There isn't anything that Ubuntu can't do better, cheaper than W7/WS2008
How is it better, cheaper than Microsoft Windows 7? Microsoft Windows 7 can actually run as a server and get tasks done, something your linux can't do. Because we all know if you are using linux you can plan for at least a week of downtime while you configure and compile. So is dietrich@dtschmitz.com the best place to get the free support? Its a free OS, so are you offering free support at dietrich@dtschmitz.com? I have yet to see any proof how linux is better when Microsoft Windows.
How is it better, cheaper than Microsoft Windows 7? Microsoft Windows 7 can actually run as a server and get tasks done, something your linux can't do. Because we all know if you are using linux you can plan for at least a week of downtime while you configure and compile. So is dietrich@dtschmitz.com the best place to get the free support? Its a free OS, so are you offering free support at dietrich@dtschmitz.com? I have yet to see any proof how linux is better when Microsoft Windows.
Your the one making these claims that linux can do any and everything. So what can it do that Microsoft Windows can't?
"Microsoft Windows 7 can actually run as a server and get tasks done, something your linux can't do."
Something Linux can't do?
LD, be serious.
For any task you can clearly define, I can provide a Linux solution which will be less expensive.
Come up with something specific.
Something Linux can't do?
LD, be serious.
For any task you can clearly define, I can provide a Linux solution which will be less expensive.
Come up with something specific.
You tell me, your making claims that linux is cheaper and better and can beat Microsoft Windows in all ways possible, so you tell me how it does this.
So, I've asked you to explain your statement.
I assume you had something in mind when you wrote that.
Or are you overdoing it with the DayQuil again? Yes?
Please stop. DayQuil IS NOT SODA-POP.
LD, you are shooting blanks.
I assume you had something in mind when you wrote that.
Or are you overdoing it with the DayQuil again? Yes?
Please stop. DayQuil IS NOT SODA-POP.
LD, you are shooting blanks.
A SLAMPP livecd will get you a fast, stable, secure Linux server quick. You are living in the past > there is little need to compile now days. Open is just better, I can't believe you guys like to be locked behind Gates your whole life. Ubuntu takes 9 minutes to install on my Phenom Windows takes 42. In Ubuntu repo I can select LAMP and have it installed and configured in 15 minutes and windows 2003 takes about 10 minutes to setup a basic server and that's without the LAMP features. Every IT problem can be traced back to Microsuck.
A preconfigured server which will be insecure. That is where Microsoft has the advantage, it might take a few minutes longer to install but it also has more features in place to get the best experience out of it to help harden the OS. It offers a much finer grain of control than linux can.
So this is how it feels when you've been drinking DayQuil all day?
You actually believe what you are writing?
Turn on the LavaLamp and blacklight and listen to some Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon?
coOL.
You actually believe what you are writing?
Turn on the LavaLamp and blacklight and listen to some Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon?
coOL.
Linux is found in all manner of devices including:
o printers
o routers
o Media Centers (Boxee.tv)
o Netbooks
o Laptops
o Smartphones
o Tablets
o PCs
o The Internet, (you have may heard about it)
o etc
Does that help?
o printers
o routers
o Media Centers (Boxee.tv)
o Netbooks
o Laptops
o Smartphones
o Tablets
o PCs
o The Internet, (you have may heard about it)
o etc
Does that help?
Well, except in ~98% of the computers on the entire planet.
Direct Access? And don't say OpenVPN since it requires client software to use it. Seriously. I'd like to know an OSS alternative so I can use it. :^)
DirectAccess is a new feature in Windows 7 (Ultimate and Enterprise editions only[1]) and Windows Server 2008 R2 that provides seamless intranet connectivity to DirectAccess client computers when they are connected to the Internet. Unlike most traditional VPN connections, which must be initiated and terminated by explicit user action, DirectAccess connections are automatically made by the user's computer on their behalf.
Requirements
One or more DirectAccess servers running Windows Server 2008 R2 with two network adapters: one that is connected directly to the Internet, and a second that is connected to the intranet.
On the DirectAccess server, at least two consecutive, public IPv4 addresses assigned to the network adapter that is connected to the Internet.
DirectAccess clients running Windows 7 (Ultimate and Enterprise editions only).
At least one domain controller and Domain Name System (DNS) server running Windows Server 2008 SP2 or Windows Server 2008 R2.
A public key infrastructure (PKI) to issue computer certificates (required), smart card certificates (optional), and health certificates for Network Access Protection (optional).
Optionally, a third-party NAT64 device to provide access to IPv4-only resources for DirectAccess clients.[6]
Explain why DA is needed in your situation? All of the underlying technology protocols can be replicated in Linux, including automation functionality.
Itemize your cost for each piece of equipment, software and I'll match up my cost with yours.
Mine will come out lower than yours.
Requirements
One or more DirectAccess servers running Windows Server 2008 R2 with two network adapters: one that is connected directly to the Internet, and a second that is connected to the intranet.
On the DirectAccess server, at least two consecutive, public IPv4 addresses assigned to the network adapter that is connected to the Internet.
DirectAccess clients running Windows 7 (Ultimate and Enterprise editions only).
At least one domain controller and Domain Name System (DNS) server running Windows Server 2008 SP2 or Windows Server 2008 R2.
A public key infrastructure (PKI) to issue computer certificates (required), smart card certificates (optional), and health certificates for Network Access Protection (optional).
Optionally, a third-party NAT64 device to provide access to IPv4-only resources for DirectAccess clients.[6]
Explain why DA is needed in your situation? All of the underlying technology protocols can be replicated in Linux, including automation functionality.
Itemize your cost for each piece of equipment, software and I'll match up my cost with yours.
Mine will come out lower than yours.
IPsec and SSL are proprietary?
Anyways you've actually listed why I don't want to use Direct Access but I still don't know of any equivalent OSS solution.
Remember, the idea here is that a mobile user can plug in anywhere on the Internet and have full access to all network resources as if it were connected to the company LAN. And the user doesn't have to do anything except authentication.
Anyways you've actually listed why I don't want to use Direct Access but I still don't know of any equivalent OSS solution.
Remember, the idea here is that a mobile user can plug in anywhere on the Internet and have full access to all network resources as if it were connected to the company LAN. And the user doesn't have to do anything except authentication.
As I wrote, there isn't anything there that Linux can't do, including automation.
Isn't "Loud and Proud" the slogan of a gay rights group?
Except make the migration for an installed Windows user base.
It'd cost me at least $200,000 for the 400 man hours that would be required simply to plan and test this change. That doesn't include the legal requirements we face for certifications or the support costs.
We've got at least 400 hours of dev costs in porting the in-house applications across to Linux, and that's assuming that they won't require re-writing (3.5 million lines of cose in 28 programs).
Legal expenses alone would be at least $10,000 for changes in SLAs, QOS agreements, vendor support changes etc.
User training and productivity loss expenses?
Roll out expenses?
Upgrading to the new version of Windows? $12,000 in our environment (just checked the Select agreement) could even be free with Software Assurance. The other numbers? Came with a recent experience moving to a new environment for a slightly smaller group.
It'd cost me at least $200,000 for the 400 man hours that would be required simply to plan and test this change. That doesn't include the legal requirements we face for certifications or the support costs.
We've got at least 400 hours of dev costs in porting the in-house applications across to Linux, and that's assuming that they won't require re-writing (3.5 million lines of cose in 28 programs).
Legal expenses alone would be at least $10,000 for changes in SLAs, QOS agreements, vendor support changes etc.
User training and productivity loss expenses?
Roll out expenses?
Upgrading to the new version of Windows? $12,000 in our environment (just checked the Select agreement) could even be free with Software Assurance. The other numbers? Came with a recent experience moving to a new environment for a slightly smaller group.
Will any of these thing do anything for me if I don't want to
buy new 2008 servers? My 2003 servers work just fine, thank
you.
buy new 2008 servers? My 2003 servers work just fine, thank
you.
Although this is really just a repackaging of Server 2008 R2 features that have been covered many times elsewhere, I think it's a good overview for admins who haven't started their R2 and/or Windows 7 deployments.
Be aware that once you put your finger in MS machinery, you'll be sucked up to the elbow and it will take you a lot of courage and persuasion to take the step to get out of this JAIL.
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