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Twitter: A fine 'pre-business' but un-monetizable and a deadly acquisition target

By Larry Dignan | March 16, 2009, 2:04am PDT

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Dear Google, Yahoo and any other potential buyer of Twitter. Bernstein analyst Jeffrey Lindsay says it’s a bad idea. A really bad idea.
In a research note, Lindsay delivers an interesting history lesson of Internet “pre-businesses.” You know the ones: The companies with large user bases, a lot of attention and no scheme to make a [...]

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Dear Google, Yahoo and any other potential buyer of Twitter. Bernstein analyst Jeffrey Lindsay says it’s a bad idea. A really bad idea.

In a research note, Lindsay delivers an interesting history lesson of Internet “pre-businesses.” You know the ones: The companies with large user bases, a lot of attention and no scheme to make a profit. Twitter—the latest Facebook and Google killer—falls into that pre-business category. 

Lindsay writes:

Twitter is finally part of the zeitgeist. Several of the candidates in the U.S. presidential election used Twitter as part of their election campaigns.  President Obama certainly did, as did Hilary Clinton and John McCain.  Most recently  several members of both houses sent Tweets during the president’s congressional address sparking another round of calls for a major player – read: Google or possibly Yahoo! -to step in and buy the company.  We think that would be a really bad idea.

Don’t get us wrong – we like Twitter and we think the concept of sending short open standard messages reporting on your activities is actually much more fun and more valuable than it sounds.  The problem is that Twitter falls into the broad category of new internet businesses that are almost un-monetizable.  Whoever buys it will likely have to operate it at a loss in perpetuity, or until the next cool web 2.0 social networking concept comes along and Twitter tweets no more.  Sadly, this would not be the first time that a major internet company had made a bad deal.

And then there’s the history lesson:

  • Netscape: Acquired by AOL for $4.2 billion (arguably $10.8 billion at the close);
  • AOL: Acquired by Time Warner for $120 billion (you’d be lucky to sell AOL for $3 billion today).
  • ICQ: Acquired by AOL for $407 million. 
  • Skype: Acquired by eBay for $4.1 billion. Hefty $1.4 billion eBay writedown ensued. 
  • MySpace: Acquired by News Corp. for $580 million. That worked out because of a $900 million search deal with Google that won’t be renewed. 
  • YouTube: Acquired by Google for $1.65 billion. A $1 billion Viacom lawsuit ensued. 

That list can easily be expanded. Lindsay’s point: Buying pre-businesses generally doesn’t pay. Here’s a suggestion: If a company really wants to blow a few billion on a pre-business just give shareholders a one-time dividend.

Lindsay continues: 

So why do some internet business models make money while others do not? The test, we would argue, is relatively simple. The ones that do make money can be described without referring to “future monetization layers”, “deeply embedded value stacks”, “keeping it as a free tool” or “the 50% of users who would definitely pay $5 per month for this”. The ones that do make money all seem to involve either mailing stuff to people who have paid for it online or getting advertising deals from the likes of General Motors.

Strictly speaking, some social networking properties do make money - a lot of money - but these are the ones that have a deal with one of the other types of web properties – the ones that have revenues.  For example, MySpace is still doing very well from its $900 million in guaranteed revenues from Google. It might not do quite as well when that deal eventually expires.

The fundamental issue seems to be that people just don’t want to click on ads when they are engaging in social networking activities.  And even when they do it is very difficult to know what they might be interested in other than social networking, making it difficult to get an advertiser to pay top dollar for targeting.  It is no accident that the most common advertisements on social networking sites are for online dating.

Those are good points, but behavioral targeting could fix those problems. Or not. I agree that the monetization model for social networks is clearly tougher than conventional portals. Why? There are no nice neat buckets to create destinations with. To create those buckets of demographics you need some user data—usually the kind that freaks the community out. 

Another monetization problem is unique to Web 2.0. Businesses can acquire massive user bases and scale before they have any time to cook up a business model.

Lindsay writes: 

The fallacy of Web 2.0 services like Twitter is that they quickly become large and popular achieving great publicity from their high profile and celebrity users (e.g. Britney Spears, Shaquille O’Neal, etc.).  More users are attracted to the service while it is free and the viral marketing and network effects come into play.  The problems start, however, when the owners of the service want to make it pay.  The users are used to using the service for free – if they are charged subscription fees many will quickly migrate to the next free service.  So that leaves advertising – display or paid search.  But the users have become used to an uncluttered website, they resent the banner ads, or sponsored links and once they appear, the users start to complain or worse, start to defect. Any attempt to leverage the user data, or in Twitter’s specific case to serve unsolicited Tweets from advertisers is typically met with user hostility.  The situation is further exacerbated by the initial venture capitalists who by this time are keen to get a return on their initial investment.

Lindsay’s advice to the potential buyers of these Web 2.0 darlings is to hang back and let the founders figure out how to make money. Why? If a buyer swooped in to buy Twitter right now it would only acquire a monetization headache. In addition, the buyers have all the leverage. These companies can’t go public and the only exit is a buyout. Meanwhile, the cool clock is ticking. 

We think that Google and Yahoo! and any other potential buyer should stay well clear of Twitter (and Facebook for that matter) at the “large but un-monetized stage”.  We think they should leave it to the original founders develop a business model and if the business survives, consider acquiring it then.  Taking on un-monetized services has proven to be a very uneconomic proposition for the Internet players over the last decade.  We think that those players who have revenues today would do well to avoid them.

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Talkback Most Recent of 12 Talkback(s)

  • As I've been saying all along...
    Anything Twitter do to make money now is going to piss off users to some degree. The concept has legs but so did email and we don't use a single centralised server for that now, do we? I'm expecting to see a model of interconnected islands prevailing here.

    Sam

    PS Your iTunes post was off base - I actually choose AAC deliberately for the increased quality at lower bitrates - but this one was on the money.
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    samjohnston
    03/16/2009 06:24 AM
  • Did the Twitter folk ever plan to make money?
    I mean it seems like a nice idea but not a business. The only thing I could see id advertising OR charging larger companies that want to reach this mass network of people.

    I guess an audience is not automatic revenue as it was in the old days.
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    storm14k
    03/16/2009 06:31 AM
  • The audience is spoiled
    Twitter is a nice site specifically because there's no advertising (if there is, I don't see it; heart Adblock), and it's non-intrusive; furthermore, it's designed to be updated from anywhere or anything. I don't like the nature of characer limits - I'm verbose by nature - but for what it does, it's great.

    The moment someone tries to turn it profitable, they'll turn off a lot of their users. It's not like Facebook, which was really designed for advertisers; people can opt-into - and out-of - whatever they want. I can't get rid of Facebook's ads without breaking the site.

    It's an interesting conundrum; most of the best social networks were started without the intention of being turned into revenue machines, and companies trying to turn them into revenue machines end up pissing off their revenue streams (users).
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    superbus
    03/16/2009 11:36 AM
  • Then it will die....or maybe not....
    I can't see such a phenomenon dying without people first getting board with it. I imagine if they end up pulling the plug somebody will figure a way to write a distributed app and disperse the work across the computers of those that want to take part.

    Personally I just can't get into the phenomenon.
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    storm14k
    03/16/2009 07:23 PM
  • Google cloned Twitter and built Jaiku, no need to acquire.
    Not sure if Yahoo will do similar or possible go in acquisition mode (or even perhaps Microsoft).

    I don't see much of a financial model for either Twitter or Jaiku, though.
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    B.O.F.H.
    03/16/2009 08:28 AM
  • True of almost all social network sites
    The exception being those than managed to trick Google into a search deal, but as you said, that will come to an end.

    My expectation, after figuring out there is no way to make enough money to keep the servers running, these sites will slowly disappear.
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    No_Ax_to_Grind
    03/16/2009 09:25 AM
  • Hyper business value multiples
    What's the current true business value of
    Twitter
    (current revenue, cash flow, risks/liabilities,
    etc.)?
    Take that business value x 3 and there's your
    price. Stop paying 1,000 x or more the actual
    value of these companies just based on
    speculation. You're risking your shareholders
    money, not your own!!!

    These companies need to do a better job and
    acclimate
    to realistic business practices, as was the
    outcome of
    the dotCom bubble burst. From there, if the
    new owner
    can create more ROI on purchasing a services
    like
    Twitter, then they (and their shareholders)
    deserve
    the extra profit they've developed. The
    original
    business creator would receive their fair share
    from
    the sale, too, and perhaps more if they stay on
    as a
    VP of the product under the new ownership.
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    Spats30
    (Edited: 03/16/2009 01:13 PM)
  • Electronic Graffiti
    That's essentially Twitter. It only matters to the devotees - the rest of the world really doesn't care what you think or are doing.

    As soon as it starts costing more money than texting it will disappear.
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    tonymcs@...
    03/16/2009 04:06 PM
  • RE: Twitter: A fine 'pre-business' but un-monetizable and a deadly acquisition target
    Twitter is a fad with no real merit. Think about it, its not much different then a blog, and a blog isn't really that much different from a personal web page.
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    jimk_z
    03/17/2009 02:12 AM
  • Give them time
    It will be hard to introduce a business model that doesn't in some ways alienate current users, but I think it is possible. There are plenty of businesses that are making money off of Twitter, so they could easily focus on one of these ventures themselves to generate revenue. I think that all because they haven't introduced an obvious business model yet doesn't mean they don't have a good plan. Time will tell.

    I coincidentally wrote about this yesterday.
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    blueroot
    03/17/2009 08:06 AM
  • RE: Twitter: A fine 'pre-business' but un-monetizable and a deadly acquisition target
    The history lesson is not quite relevant with the initial subject, I think. Although Bernstein raises some good questions, it looks more like a self-advertizing-big-names-dropping posture. Nobody says monetizing social networks is easy, it has to do with redefining the way brands want to engage with end-users, and this sounds more like a wake-up call to "traditional" web advertizing model, IMHO...

    /laurent
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    llathieyre
    (Edited: 03/17/2009 09:29 AM)
  • Information Overload and Time Management
    I do most of my business (professional and personal) in e-mail.

    I came to the conclusion that there are two types of communication technologies:

    - Preemptive: Things like telephones and IM require that you stop doing task A and switch to task B.

    - Non-preemptive: E-mail is cooperative, with respect to other tasks. It can sit for a little while, and you can respond when feasible (and at all times of the day or night)

    I have found that IM is so preemptive that I can't get any work done. I have people approach me regularly, angry that I'm not on IM -- my response is: "If you want something done, send me an e-mail. If it's urgent, call me". I find that I'm 2 to 3 times as productive with IM shut down.

    My take on twitter is that it is descending in to yet another level of preemption. Information provided in real time only has value if processed in real time. But I propose that twitter is TOO MUCH information. I just don't think I care about what someone is thinking or doing enough to want to get updates several times per day. And if I do? There's always E-MAIL.
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    jparr
    03/19/2009 09:31 AM

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