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Verizon and the iPhone: Nothing to report today, but...

By | April 27, 2009, 6:10am PDT

Summary: Updated: Apple is reportedly talking to Verizon Wireless about bringing the iPhone to the carrier, according to USA Today. And Verizon executives aren’t exactly pooh-poohing the reports.  On a conference call, Verizon operating chief Dennis Strigl said the company is always talking to device makers, but had “no announcements to make relative to Apple today.” USA Today [...]

Updated: Apple is reportedly talking to Verizon Wireless about bringing the iPhone to the carrier, according to USA Today. And Verizon executives aren’t exactly pooh-poohing the reports.  On a conference call, Verizon operating chief Dennis Strigl said the company is always talking to device makers, but had “no announcements to make relative to Apple today.”

USA Today reported that Apple is in high-level talks about bringing the iPhone to Verizon Wireless. The news comes just a few days after AT&T chief Randall Stephenson said that the company was looking to extend its exclusive pact with Apple. Following Verizon’s strong first quarter earnings, Strigl said the following:

We’re always open to discussions with any supplier. We have no announcements to make relative to Apple today. Historically we haven’t been dependent on any one device.

The message: Verizon Wireless could very well be talking to Apple—not that Strigl would say so directly. And Verizon is in a strong position since AT&T had its iPhone bump and the wireless carrier is still performing well. Reading between the lines, it could be that Apple needs Verizon Wireless’ 86.6 million customers more than the wireless carrier needs the iPhone. Apple has an exclusive deal with AT&T, which has 78.2 million subscribers, but the iPhone’s addressable U.S. market could more than double with a Verizon deal. 

A move to Verizon would be notable because the iPhone would be available on a CDMA wireless network compared to AT&T’s GSM technology, according to USA Today. But is this a really big deal? Other phones work on both technologies. 

This Verizon-Apple story largely boils down to two words: Network and negotiation.

First, Apple is likely to want to expand iPhone distribution to other networks. And Verizon Wireless is the second half of a U.S. wireless potential duopoly. Why wouldn’t Apple want to lock down the U.S. wireless market by having the two largest carriers in the fold?

And then there’s the network reliability. Verizon Wireless’ coverage is just better than AT&T’s. And as Om Malik notes Verizon Wireless can give Apple an LTE network to play with. The iPhone with better coverage and 4G could be interesting. Verizon executives talked up their LTE buildout. 

But this Apple-Verizon story probably comes down to negotiation. AT&T put its cards on the table. It really wants to extend its deal with Apple. Apple obviously wants to explore other options. The game: Squeeze AT&T into a better deal. Verizon is more than happy to play along.

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iPhone limited?
fernande-zdnet 20th Jul 2009
Limitation on a piece of hardware are very subjective. Many features are appealing to some people and not to others.

Personally, I don't understand why people complain about the non-removable battery.

I have never needed more than one battery in any of the cell phones that I have owned. The only reason I needed access to the battery compartment was to get access to the microSD card, and that was a rare occurrance, and to replace the battery when it died.

Replacing a battery cost me $70 (the price of a Motorola-branded long last battery). If Apple charges me the same to replace the battery in the iPhone, then what's the problem?

I don't use thetering.

The browser doesn't support Flash or Java, but developers write installable apps that provide the missing functionality (e.g., Google maps, Facebook updates, etc.)

A physical keobard is useful, but I can get used to the software-based one with a little practice.

The other things that were lacking before (3G support, better camera, fingerprints) have been fixed in later iterations. So, future iterations will bring more stuff.

No phone is perfect. Just get the one that satisfies your needs. Period.
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Begging...
zithero@... 27th Apr 2009
basically Apple knows where it stands here with AT&T - the only reason half, if not more, subscribers are at AT&T is because of the iPhone. (I'm talking about iPhone users btw, not all subscribers).

For Apple to walk would not only anger those customers (Apple does not care), but it'll loose alot of business for AT&T...

Granted Verizon is by far the best when it comes to 3G coverage, evening having such things as the "COW" - a mobile cell tower to roll into high population events when the need arises for more data coverage.

their data plans (on phones) aren't too bad - then again they do have a nice contract with Blackberry - basically I pay 30 bucks a month for unlimited internet access on my storm. It would be nice to see apple extend the same to it's consumers, but with Apple getting 10 bucks per month per subscriber on AT&T (plus AT&T having to make money...) it will more than likely be more pricey.
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Apple only has a minor influence in the
xXSpeedzXx 27th Apr 2009
plan pricing of the cellular provider. If a plan cost's more, it has to do with the cost of the device, and in an indirect way modifing the price of the plan. But even so, I have compared plans with other providers and ATT for the iPhone are relativily in step with cost.

Although I don't think we will see a Verizon iPhone for a year or two yet while ATT still has exclusivity.
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hmmm...AT&T exclusivity is about 3G. Maybe Apple will go 4G with Verizon?
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
Just sayin'.
I can clearly see the iPhone making more inroads everywhere. Oh, I
forgot to mention the iPod Touch.

This should have Ballmer spinning in his chair.


Snicker, smirk,,,




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'Snicker, smirk,,,' - Please don't write like NonZealot.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
It's enough we have to put up with his ten year old antics. Please don't follow suit with his 'smirk' insults.

Thanx!
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I pay the same $30.00 for unlimited internet access on my iPhone.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
And many, many 'How dare you use anything other than Microsoft Windows products (i.e. WinMobile/WinCE)' folks have declared that we iPhone users are paying too much.

Funny that, huh? EVERY Smartphone provider charges $30.00 per month for unlimited data. Hmmm...reads like MS fanbois complain too much about Apple!
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Uh...
rag@... 27th Apr 2009
TMO only charges me $25 for unlimited data on the G1.
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Just wait 6 months. TMobile charged me 20 for unlimited on BB.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
Then 6 months later upped it to 30$. And your contract does not protect data charges. Only voice charges. Sucks...doesn't it!
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I find it hard to believe you used a BB
LiquidLearner 27th Apr 2009
or any other nonsense you type out.
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NOT ON THE NOT WORK!!!!!!
itguy08 27th Apr 2009
Good God, no.

Verizon's network is the NOTwork and it would be
horrible on Verizon's Cr@pfest CDMA network.
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Honestly, I have tried most carriers at my house. With Verizon I have
pretty decent coverage on EVDO, and I can download about 1M for
speed. Sprint I'm lucky to get 1 bar standing in the middle of my yard.
On AT&T, I couldn't get 3G access, only get dial-up speeds for
downloads. Your myopic view of the carrier is probably just a reverse
situation of what I have to deal with, but that's life. Just because Apple
signs another contract with another carrier doesn't necessarily mean that
existing iPhone customers are going to loose their phone contract with
AT&T anyways, so I don't see it as a big deal.
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confused...
condelirios 27th Apr 2009
Why would your coverage differ with Sprint vs. Verizon using the same phone? Answer: It doesn't! They have a free roaming agreement..this includes data. It is why Sprint is such a bargin, as the data plan is much cheaper and you get to not only use their EVDO rev A network, but roam on Verizon's EVDO when it isn't available. Heck, I was in the backwoods this weekend, 1 bar of cell service and could STILL use Verizon's 1xRTT to connect to the internet.

Apple is smelling the a scent in the air... Verizon and/or Sprint = the only way to keep expanding. AT&T's coverage outside major metro areas is just non-exisitant. This has been a problem for Apple from moment one.

This plus the fact that GSM 3G eats the battery life...and when they switch it over to CDMA/EVDO the battery life will be 15% better automatically.

This is a no-brainer move for them...they have to end the exclusive, or they will start to stagnate.
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You must be
itguy08 27th Apr 2009
"Apple is smelling the a scent in the air...
Verizon and/or Sprint = the only way to keep
expanding. AT&T's coverage outside major metro
areas is just non-exisitant. This has been a
problem for Apple from moment one."


Funny, I often travel well outside metro areas
and have excellent coverage with AT&T.
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The NOT WORK?? Are you kidding me?
arvtpei 27th Apr 2009
Yes!!! Moving the iPhone to Verizon would make
the iPhone the ultimate mobile phone. Currently
it is the ultimate personal assistant and only
sub par phone due to AT&T's GSM network. I have
wished many times to go back to my Razor and
Verizon so that I could use my wireless "phone"
service for the purpose it was created for in the
first place.
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doing business right? Rather it means that Apple is
expanding out....

Pagan jim
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Right
Larry Dignan 27th Apr 2009
AT&T and Apple will continue to do business. Apple would just double its distribution with Verizon. It's the same way every other device maker on the planet operates.
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Yes. AT&T will remain exclusive (per contract) with AT&T.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
My thought process tells me the contract is very specific...3G. Verizon is working on 4G (per the article) and I think Apple can take advantage of this by making the iPhone work on the Verizon 4G network and not get into contention with the AT&T 3G network contract.
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Still won't own an iPhone until...
IT_Guy_z Updated - 27th Apr 2009
1) Voice dialing that I don't have to PAY FOR.

2) User replaceable battery.

3) Tethering.

ALL of the above can be done with virtually every phone on the planet, except for the iPhone. This is inexcusable...but just emphasizes what a control freak Steve Jobs is.

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Jobs a control freak?
dheady@... 27th Apr 2009
If you think Steve Jobs is a 'control freak' you've never had a Verizon
account. The 'deal breaker' when Apple was talking to Verizon about
releasing iPhone v. 1 was that Verizon wanted complete control of apps
and features...as they have on most of their other devices. It's not pretty.
While Apple may control the app store content to some degree there are
over 35,000 apps to chose from, not exactly the Nazis at the big V.
The phone companies would charge you for every breath of air you exhaled into your phone if they could. They rely on hidden costs to price gouge customers since the monthly fee illusion is not enough to satiate their money lust.
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Yes. The Telco's will get every bit of 'profit' they can.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
Why don't you open your eyes and realize Microsoft is doing the same thing (client access licenses, charging you for Vista/Win 7 when you are using XP (40% lower price))?

Jobs is a 'quality' freak, not a control freak. I can do the same things on my Mac as I can on the Sony Viao upstairs. Apple (not Jobs) just doesn't ding me for every bit of data (i.e. database use and user login) that Microsoft does.

Also, Apple is not a monopoly using said to gain traction in other markets!
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Huh?
stano360 19th May 2009
Every company is supposed to make profits, or are you one of those Obamarxists that thinks all companies are evil (except the one that pays you).

Jobs is the master profiteer (and God Bless him for it) and control freak. Apple is the DRM master, with a stated goal of creating a closed wall world for its users (and from what people say it works) that is geared to maximize profit margins.

MS and Sony can only dream of Apples huge profit margins.
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There is a difference
midenginedrift Updated - 19th May 2009
between making a profit and gouging people, while arranging business contracts and models to find new ways to gouge people even more, not concerned with the fact that most of the people being gouged are in debt already.

Is even a little corporate responsibility too much to ask for? Your statement makes you seem to be the kind of free market zealot/extremist that feels the answer is "no." I hope your at the age where you could no longer be considered "the future."
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More revisionist history.
IT_Guy_z 27th Apr 2009
Verizon Turned Apple iPhone Down
By Rob Beschizza January 29, 2007 | 7:56 am | Categories: Phones

Verizon, the number 2 U.S. cellular operator, rejected a deal with Apple to carry their iPhone on their network almost two years ago, according to USA Today. The sticking points were Apple?s desire to get a cut of subscription fees and to control how and where phones could be sold.


http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2007/01/verizon_turned_
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Hmmm...maybe that's why Verizon is #2 compared to AT&T being #1? (NT)
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
NT
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And Apple is going too miss you why?
James Quinn 27th Apr 2009
Seems these issues are not causing Apple much in the way of harm so
the "control freak" must have gotten it right..again:P

Pagan jim
Apple sold approximately 13-14 million units in 2008, out of a total of 1.2 BILLION cell phone sales. They are a blip on the RADAR screen when it comes to sales figures.
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A blip for total...but a HUGE success for a single model.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
You see, Apple sells one, 1, a SINGLE model. And STILL they command a great amount of respect and market share from that perspective.

Blackberry would LOVE to sell a single model (more profit) and yet they are troubled with 8 versions (or more) and THAT is why they can NOT make a profit (too many suppliers that have to be paid)!

Apple sells enough units of a SINGLE model to make TONS OF BUCKS! What EVERY other smartphone maker wants!

The truth in the pudding is how much gross profit you make on your 'MODEL' of smartphone. Apple makes 42% +! What do other smartphone makers garner?!?
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I could do 2 out of three on my Blackberry Pearl. No tethering.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
Guess that means you won't own a BlackBerry either? Sad...the lengths MS fanbois go to!
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Who said I was a MS fanboy?
IT_Guy_z 27th Apr 2009
I happen to own TWO Apple computers AND a Blackberry you idiot!
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Well...gee, calling me an Idiot instead of pleading your support is a start
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
Me thinks thou protests too much!

Perhaps you're a Linux fanboi. My point was that you were raggin on Apple in an unfair way. Care to elaborate on your hatred or just flame me (and other Apple equipment lovers)?
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Elaborate on his hatred of Apple?
ths40 27th Apr 2009
Can't you read? He said he owns two Apple computers.

What is "unfair" about a company not providing the features that most other companies provide in their cell phones?
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Frankly, I doubt he owns two Apple computers. Secondly 'other' companies...
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
provide different features based on their network and profit plans. I have had cell phones where I could load my own ring tones (iPhone being one) versus having to PAY 2 bucks for a ring tone (more expensive than a full track from iTunes!).

Software features are EASY to install (voice dial being the biggest)! Apple has committed to the iPhone and I, for one (of many hundreds of thousands) believe this is coming (I paid for a voice dial program...a whoping 5 bucks!).

Point is...don't bag at the start. Give EACH and EVERY product a chance. Microsoft LIVES on this diem! No reason NOT to give Apple that same space!
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And once again, you would be wrong.
IT_Guy_z 27th Apr 2009
They happen to be an iMac G3 and a G4..as well as my two 2nd gen iPods, 4GB & 8 GB Product (red) models. Would you care for the serial numbers sweetheart?

And by the way Mr. "No More Microsoft Software Ever!"...seems you have a lot of hatred for Microsoft...and that's Ok in your little pea brain...but any criticism of Apple is hatred?

You are one truly pathetic piece of work.
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OK....here it comes....
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
First...why would you state 'Once Again you Would be Wrong'???? Have you read some sort of history of my postings where I was proved wrong by a community of computer scientists? Or are all MS supporters deemed as CS degree holders?

Second...this all started with an option you said was NEEDED...tethering. Yet the BlackBerry does not do this and yet you purchased one (per your 'I own two Apple computers and a Blackberry' post)! Wonder why? Could it be other features you liked but were not available for the product you bought? (like the iPhone App Store?)?

Third...You call Steve Jobs a Control Freak! This sounds like an attack on Apple instead of non-emotional information. So do you really wonder why I think you are an MS fanboi?

Fourth...NO product is 'REQUIRED' to do what other products in the market do. They are 'REQUIRED' to sell in order to continue. Something the iPhone is doing. If you don't like it...move on. DON'T SPEND HUNDREDS OF HOURS LAMBASTING THE COMPANY THAT PRODUCES SAID PRODUCT unless you REALLY have something to say about those products (or the company). If you BOUGHT their product(s) that means you have nothing morally or ethically against that company. It means you will buy what you want, regardless of the worlds view of that companies ethics.

There is nothing wrong with MY personal point of view of Microsoft. They are an unethical, lying, cheating, stealing company. THIS is why I don't buy their products.

YOU on the other hand apparently don't have such feelings for Apple yet your posts indicate a very clear point of hatred for the iPhone product.

My whole point here is to state that the iPhone is doing well. HATE does not move a product (or company...trust me, Microsoft is still unethical) faster than the natural progression. The iPhone WILL have the features you need...in time. There is NO NEED TO HATE THE iPhone! Just DON'T buy it until you are ready! Do you REALLY NEED TO RANT on how much you hate the iPhone? Do you REALLY need to have the common public NOT PURCHASE the iPhone and instead buy a BlackBerry that does NOT support your TETHERING need?

Sorry for the rant, but dude....YOU STARTED IT!
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Lawl at AT&T
mysticpam 27th Apr 2009
Cool. Maybe AT&T will get mad at Apple and allow all of us poor dislocated Americans living in Europe to unlock our iPhones... ok it was a dream.
AT&T is insufferable. I paid for 4 iPhones for our family last year and when we were sent to Germany this Spring by the military, they refused to allow us to unlock our iPhones to use in Europe. They are wretches. Go Verizon.
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Possible impact on Verizon network/users??
iTeaBoy Updated - 27th Apr 2009
Given that the iPhone is a bandwidth hog I wonder what impact it might have on the Verizon network, and other Verizon smartphone users (eg BB Storm)

ie would Verizon BB Storm users be affected by iPhone 'sponsored' network issues like what happened at SXSW a few months ago?
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Probably. All five or six of them.
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Did you read the article? iPhone has not slowed the AT&T network.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
I think this was a major point of the article. While web use is WAY up with the iPhone, it has not slowed the AT&T network to a crawl (as was expected). This gives Verizon some incentive in capitalizing on the income without hurting the user experience.
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The article mentions Verizons superior network coverage but nothing about bandwidth.

The major reason that Web traffic is WAY up with the iPhone compared to say the blackberry's is because it's uncompressed and uses 20x more network bandwidth. This must have an impact!

So if the iPhone hasn't negatively impacted the AT&T network how come iPhone users were unable to get the whole 'user experience' thing at the recent SXSW conference?
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Seller's remorse?
John L. Ries 27th Apr 2009
I can't imagine that Apple is happy with the current AT&T deal, given that it has put them in an adversarial relationship with their own customers, which Apple never likes to do. Apple should never have tied the iPhone to a single carrier in the first place.
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It's OK. Really! Apple linked a single technology to AT&T.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
Things keep changing and 4G (Verizon and others) keep things rather lucid.

Apple does things right. Not just in hardware/software and interface but in legal contracts. Apple will be fine as the mobile environment grows and changes.
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Seller's remorse
dheady@... 27th Apr 2009
Actually Apple going with the #2 carrier was a good move.
Verizon was not likely to allow the app store to exist in its
current form. They consistently have micromanaged devices
in a way that makes Apple's 'control' of the app store look
like a melee. Now, however, after taking a huge chunk of the
smart phone market and redefining the whole genre Verizon
is coming to Apple, hat in hand. Jobs hasn't been outsmarted
very often since Scully.
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Go Apple! (NT)
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 27th Apr 2009
NT
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RE: Still won't own an IPhone until...
endorphine44 27th Apr 2009
Same here. My friend has an Iphone, I can't bluetooth
ringtones to him. I can email them, but he can't save
attachments from his email on the Iphone. I mean, really?
My old Mobile Windows device had that kind of basic
functionality. What a joke. You had to wait until version
3 to get copy/paste and tethering, outside of the cool
factor I think you Iphone guys got hosed on that deal.
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Still won't own an iPhone
compudog 27th Apr 2009
Your post reminds me of the many I've made asking iPhone supporters to discuss the issues you raise, and also and in particular the sealed battery. Unsurprisingly, no one has responded, other than the usual braying about how MS is bad and Apple is good. I'm with you, but I think I'm bored with all of this now.
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It would seem based on sales and "customer satisfaction" polls that
Apple is doing quite well and the iPhone is one HUGE reason why they
are doing so well. So I have too assume that the iPhone is hitting the
sweet spot for many a consumer right now. Granted its not perfect
but it seems that even with that fact it is still darn good and many
people not only purchase the device but they are more than happy
that they have done so. Hence the customer satisfaction numbers.
Now do I think the iPhone meets everyone's needs... heck no. Do I
think your needs are a good example of every consumer.. I guess not
for there are plenty giving Apple their business right now and will
continue to do so for the for seeable future. So while I can understand
these two thing what I don't understand is why you two can not?

Pagan jim
According to the Mar 2009 Changewave survey of customers those
very satisfied Apple came out on top (as usual). Nokia was at 30%,
Sony at 25%.

Rim blackberry was closest at 50%.

I know there are will be charges of distortion that Apple fanbois lie
about their satisfaction but Blackberry users seem to be pretty fanatic
as well and Apple beat it by wide margin.

------

Surveys (with all their flaws) are more significant than personal
anecdotes like those posters in the talk-backs as they are averaged
out over a larger population.
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OK. I agree. IF you buy an Apple product (any) you BECOME an Apple fanboi
No More Microsoft Software Ever! Updated - 27th Apr 2009
It's MAGIC......It just Happens!

Microsoft WISHES this would happen for them.

Maybe if Microsoft CARED about their END USER CUSTOMERS instead of squeezing OEM customers to buy their warez MS could actually get some automatic LOVE like Apple does.

Don't hate because LOVE is automatic. Hate because it takes work! Like MS won't do (and MS fanboi's PRETEND happens with them!)!
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iPhone limited?
fernande-zdnet 20th Jul 2009
Limitation on a piece of hardware are very subjective. Many features are appealing to some people and not to others.

Personally, I don't understand why people complain about the non-removable battery.

I have never needed more than one battery in any of the cell phones that I have owned. The only reason I needed access to the battery compartment was to get access to the microSD card, and that was a rare occurrance, and to replace the battery when it died.

Replacing a battery cost me $70 (the price of a Motorola-branded long last battery). If Apple charges me the same to replace the battery in the iPhone, then what's the problem?

I don't use thetering.

The browser doesn't support Flash or Java, but developers write installable apps that provide the missing functionality (e.g., Google maps, Facebook updates, etc.)

A physical keobard is useful, but I can get used to the software-based one with a little practice.

The other things that were lacking before (3G support, better camera, fingerprints) have been fixed in later iterations. So, future iterations will bring more stuff.

No phone is perfect. Just get the one that satisfies your needs. Period.

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