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What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499

By | October 25, 2010, 7:23am PDT

Best Buy will reportedly sell the Samsung Galaxy Tab, the Wi-Fi version, for $499.

Pocketables.net highlights some leaked Best Buy signage showing the Tab going for $499.

The pricing instantly got me and Jason Perlow bickering. For starters, I’m not paying $499 for a 7-inch Galaxy Tab. To me, Android is the value play. It’s not the equivalent of an iPad in the tablet market. You have an unknown horse for $499 and a proven winner for the same price. What are you going to go with?

I need the Wi-Fi Tab to be $399 to even start the discussions.

Now before the techies in the house jump down my throat, I realize the following:

  • Samsung’s 7-inch screen could be as sharp as the iPad’s 10-inch screen.
  • There are two cameras.
  • Memory is expandable.
  • The Tab has Android 2.2 and the apps that go with it.

As Perlow noted: “There’s a lot of freakin hardware in that device.”

My reply: “Yeah you tell that to the average consumer.”

You can talk resolution, AMOLED screens and all sort of good stuff all day, but the iPad will wow you just as much as the Tab. And frankly, the Tab has to do more. The iPad to the tablet market is the same as Kleenex in tissues. Or Xerox for copiers. The iPad says premium to the consumer. Android says value.

I need the value. And at $499 the Tab is a tough sell.

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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Cahin Updated - 12th Sep
@JT82 what I do for a living, which is currently admin a Windows Infrastructure. I don't go over there and trash on Windows, because I know it has it's uses. Right now it's keeping me employed!

Actually I'm not totally sure what your point is? araba oyunlari friv
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
JT82 25th Oct 2010
Yea $499-$599 is a non-starter price. They needed to come in sub $350-400 to even be on most average consumers radar. Frankly, I'm not even sure if I'm going to get one right away - might let it ride and see what happens.
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7 inches should be $300...
nix_hed 25th Oct 2010
...but then again, Apple's 10 inches with no 3G should be $400.

And before anyone else says it, "That's what she said."
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
borninlv@... 29th Oct 2010
@nix_hed that's what she said.... happy
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
angel tenan Updated - 17th Jul
Your Linux Advocate. That's what she said ipad bag blog of best sutudeg community the modern education news and the other.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
mega proyek Updated - 19th Jul
Actually, I'd like to try the 7" form factor. I'm curious if it will allow for typing with thumbs as opposed to the iPad. If so, it may be a better unitedcms from this we can blueampu than modern s-aquarion so that it soshaiti2008 from thos iPad asyouare of the fit.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
rparker009 25th Oct 2010
@JT82
Hell its worth it just for Flash so that you really can go to all the web and not the 30% that Jobs wants you to see
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
audidiablo 26th Oct 2010
@rparker009
Yeah and all the Spyware that Google wants to have you carry around. I'd rather use the iPad than a device riddled with Google Spyware. Most flash on the internet is all obnoxious advertisements. Nice try stupid.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
non-biased 2nd Nov 2010
@rparker009 But unlike you and the majority of the Apple haters on here, the average consumers who are the ones buying these by the millions don't really care that flash isn't on the iPad and won't miss it 95+% of the time.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
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@rparker009 You mean Crash.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Churlish 15th Nov 2010
rparker009 --

You mean that the average customer doesn't want to hit the numerous sites on the web that employ Flash? I find that hard to believe.

Most users have no concept of the Apple vs. Adobe vs. Microsoft vs. Google (etc.) religious wars that preoccupy so many geeks here. All they'll know is that that shiny new iPad they bought won't display the page containing the game, media, or rich UI they wanted to see. If I were that person, I'd say "What's wrong with my iPad?" and not "Oh, I understand ... Steve Jobs is looking out for me by protecting me from the big, bad interweb."

For the record -- before the accusations fly -- I'm not a shill for Adobe, Google, or Microsoft, nor am I a Flash developer. I'm just someone who would prefer to browse to everything on a tablet that I can on my desktop without Steve Jobs acting as my nanny.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Cahin Updated - 12th Sep
@JT82 what I do for a living, which is currently admin a Windows Infrastructure. I don't go over there and trash on Windows, because I know it has it's uses. Right now it's keeping me employed!

Actually I'm not totally sure what your point is? araba oyunlari friv
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I am sorry. 7 inches is simply too small.
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 25th Oct 2010
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
JT82 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate Size queen? :-p
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
vikingnyc@... 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate
There's a trite joke here, that you walked into, that I'm dying to say, but will refrain for the sake of harmony. ;^)
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
ItsTheBottomLine 26th Oct 2010
@vikingnyc@... LOL - I'm sorry I was thinking the same thing, and yes it is sophomoric, but it was laid out there plain and simple.
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That's what she said! [N/T]
Stormbringer_57th 25th Oct 2010
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
kb5ynf 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Actually, I'd like to try the 7" form factor. I'm curious if it will allow for typing with thumbs as opposed to the iPad. If so, it may be a better fit.
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trickytom3 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

That's what she said.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
dave@... 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz sure... no 7" format will ever catch on. No would buy a portable DVD or media player, or any kind of reading material, with a 7" or less screen.

Oh wait... they do all the time. A tablet isn't a PC, you're using it more like a book than a computer. So 7" is perfectly fine for viewing, and dramatically better for portbility than a 10" or greater screen. What really matters is resolution and bright-light readability, far as the display goes. And as far as general functionality, you need all-day battery life.

On top of that, any peripheral support: USB, SD, HDMI, etc. That will make such a device far more useful than an iPad. Still overpriced at $500, but that price won't stick.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
alfielee@... 25th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate
When it is considered the primary reason for buying a tablet, the major reason is portability for travelling (holidaying), day-to-day organisation, waiters, hospital staff etc but something that can actually fit into a large pocket or perhaps a waistbelt. A 10" screen is nice but it's not as portable as a 7" which is usable by someone my size with large hands & long, chubby fingers & in a standing position. The 10" becomes not so portable in these environments. My next purchase will be a quality tablet, not an iPad (rest assured on that), running Android 2.2 (at least).
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Jimster480 26th Oct 2010
@alfielee@... exactly. Thats what all these idiots dont understand. 10" isnt portable. It doesnt fit ANYWHERE. You have to carry it in a bag, and if you have to carry around a bag, you might as well carry a laptop or a notebook. You know, a device that ACTUALLY does something other than consume content. At 7" a waiter could put it in their uniform, on a belt, or delivery people could have it attached to them somewhere. It can fit in a large pocket or a small pouch of something. It won't require its own bag.
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non-biased 2nd Nov 2010
@alfielee@... With your comment ... "My next purchase will be a quality tablet, not an iPad (rest assured on that), running Android 2.2 (at least)."... you have basically shown that your position on the topic is biased and thus not really relevant to the conversation.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
audidiablo 26th Oct 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Do you like it big? You're a freak.
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Wow, this takes me back to 50 articles on ZDNet
NonZealot 25th Oct 2010
The funny thing is that you guys lament the "race to the bottom" mentality of the PC market without realizing that you are the ones driving it.

Hilarious. This truly is a case of "be careful what you wish for".
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Ah but for decades now "price" has been a primary argument
James Quinn 25th Oct 2010
@NonZealot
of the "PC" world not the only one but a main one. Then there has been "Specs" like 10" is a superior spec to 7". FInally "Apps" were always a classic PC argument. Like how many Apps were available for a PC vs a Macintosh. So are these still valid arguments or have the rules changed?

Pagan jim
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
DannyO_0x98 25th Oct 2010
@James Quinn
I think the rules changed.

Well, they haven't, but with a smaller screen size and less powerful single core processor, no one, except Apple mobile customers, have to look at a purchase in terms of supporting the applications/software they already paid for. In a few years, when people are looking for their third or fourth device? Then we'll see a different dynamic.

That right there is the big deal about being first into a sector.

But in a sense, the rules have changed. Though not first, Apple's app store is an unqualified success in two aspects: lots of people are willing to pay for software and are not afraid that installing it will turn into this complicated day-waster. This is huge. If you really put together a simple user experience for things people want to do, you get rewarded. I think happy customers and profitable sellers is optimal.
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Rules conveniently changed.
dave95. 25th Oct 2010
@James Quinn

Funny - one of the key features of these new-breed devices are the ability to download Apps specifically designed for it. Yet no one is mentioning the wifi only version will not have access to the Android App Store. For decades it was all about how Macs were no good because Win PCs had all these software.
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@dave95: but you ignore the other side of the coin
NonZealot 25th Oct 2010
for decades it was all about how Macs were no good because Win PCs had all these software.

Why do you ignore the same type of argument from the Apple zealots?
For decades, it was all about how it didn't matter that PCs had 50 versions of the one application that was on the Mac. Now that it is iOS that has 50 versions of the one application on Android, suddenly all that matters is a blind count of applications.
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NZ is right.
Tigertank 25th Oct 2010
@Nonzealot
Having multiple variations of the the same application does not make things better. The Mac never had the cheap knockoff copies of more popular appications that the PC had (at least not as many.) But we did have the best and most popular version (i.e. Office, Photoshop, Quicken etc.) in some ways it helped create compatibility standards in the Mac ecosystem that boosted productivity.
Now on the iphone/ipad there are hundreds of thousands of applications available and it is work sorting through the quality from the junk.
I do admit however, that Apple approval process has resulted in some solid and stable apps. (even if it's stable junk.) And the rating/ preview feature helps you to avoid the real clunkers.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
dave95. Updated - 25th Oct 2010
@NonZealot

I think after a certain point (maturity) it wouldn't matter much about app count. The important apps everyone need would be available on both Android and iOS. If everything continues the way it has. One could argue that right now, there's more "junk" in the Android market per percentage than in the iOS App store, because of Apple's strict policy. Android lets in everything, doesn't matter if it's piracy apps etc.

But I'm not arguing app count. As it stands today, the wifi only Galaxy Tab has NO tablet specific apps and may not even have access to the app market, a KEY feature for the iPad which have over 15K. Yet no mention of this key feature anywhere when comparing.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
tkejlboom 25th Oct 2010
@James Quinn

I never thought PCs were the low price option, but very much the higher value. Then again, I'm a specs and and apps guy. The problem, you see, is that the apps I want are Fall-out New Vegas, and the apps Apple has are all farts.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
DannyO_0x98 25th Oct 2010
@NonZealot
Well, yes indeed. It is the critics and consumers pushing for a lower price (and/or the perception that those people exist and have money and interest) that forms one side of the race to the bottom phenomenon.

The other are manufacturers and retailers who take reduced margins or who figure out a razor/razor blade model.

For some industries, government regulation as to advertising, safety requirements, minimal service standards, contract language, etc., provide a pricing floor, i.e., everyone's price has to be above the cost of raw materials, the initial barrier of entry, and on-going mandates.

Apple said they priced the iPad aggressively, and, well, you know, companies always say stuff which put them in a better light, so we have our skepticisms. Your Grains of Salt May Vary. (And indeed it does, with regards to Apple.)

But aren't we starting to see that competitors in the sector are showing us smaller screens with more doodads at the same price, or, talking about low initial price with phone carrier contract? If someone could have done an approx. 10 inch slate with the fit and finish of the iPad at a lower price by this Christmas, they would have.

We'll see how it plays out. Seems to me netbooks were a race to the bottom and the industry is relieved that focus is now on phones and slates, where they can make some money.
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Who says the screen size isn't better?
NonZealot Updated - 25th Oct 2010
@DannyO_0x98
smaller screens with more doodads at the same price

Just because Jobs states that 7" tablets suck doesn't make it true. Okay, to an Apple zealot, anything Jobs says is true by definition but the rest of us like to decide for ourselves what is true and what is not. The Galaxy is far more portable than the iPad and that makes it a better portable device.

We'll see how it plays out. Seems to me netbooks were a race to the bottom and the industry is relieved that focus is now on phones and slates, where they can make some money.

Who says they are making tons of money on phones and slates? I haven't heard of any mad profits from phone sales and Android tablets are only just beginning to appear.

The truth is that Apple will always have a better chance of making money because Apple knows that whatever they release, their core fan base will buy it, no matter what, and no matter the price they set. That takes a lot of risk out of anything that Apple makes. Apple TV has been an abject failure for Apple but even Apple's epic fails don't cost them that much because they'll at least recoup their money from the core group of iDiots out there. Same goes for the MBA, another terrible, terrible device.
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@NZ. Because, of course, we all know that Apple just
frgough 25th Oct 2010
makes up their interface and design out of whole cloth. Oh. Wait. They don't. They use some of their $50 billion in cash to run usability studies. 7" is the exactly wrong size. Too large to be easily portable, and too small to gain the large screen advantage. So. Why did Samsung pick it? Easy. Because Android won't run on tablets, so they picked the largest phone screen they could that wouldn't make Android look like total crap when running on it.
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7" screen
Tigertank 25th Oct 2010
@Nonzealot

I think Jobs was both sincere in his denunciation but was also taking an opportunity to take some steam out of the upcoming devices launch. That much is clear.
As far as screen size goes, 7" will be a size that lets competitors get a foothold in the market where Apple is not competing. And it will render products that are physically different-looking from the ipad/iphone so they don't automatically look like me-too products by default (at least superficially.) However I also think Jobs makes a couple of valid points. Most people who will buy one will already have an iphone/ Android type device which provides much of the functionality of a small tablet already. Buying a 7" tablet does not substantially change the way you use the device from the phone. But a full sized Tablet provides a real functional difference to view and edit full sized documents.
In many ways the 7" is like the old Powermac Cube. A cool solution in need of a problem.
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7 inches is still not pocketable.. that's the point...
doctorSpoc 25th Oct 2010
@ NonZealot - you're still going to have to carry a 7 inch tablet in a bag etc.. just like the 10 inch.. the screen is just smaller.. there is just no utility/upside for a user in the screen being 7 inches vs 10 inches... as much as these manufactures would like to scam people into thinking that 7 inches is a feature.. it's NOT a feature.. it's an inferior aspect of these devices.. and a BIG one because the screen is the most important way that a user interacts with the device.

the only reason they chose 7 inches vs 10 is to bring the price down and battery life up to approach what Apple has set the bar at.. that is the ONLY reason these device are 7 inches.. it's after the fact that they try to figure out some angle for them being 7 inches.. but there is no legit angle.. they just have smaller, inferior screens.. so movie watching, surfing, screen real estate for interaction etc is inferior..

not even mentioning that they idiotically use 16:9 aspect ratio.. which is fine if the only thing you're going to do is watch movies on the thing.. but for anything else.. in portrait mode it's a pretty much useless sliver of a screen.. in landscape if you open a keyboard you're either going to get a tiny keyboard that you can't touch type on like the iPad or the keyboard is going to cover up pretty much the entire screen.. it's just stupid.. but the want a bullet point "wide screen" even though on this device it makes no sense.. the iPad has the same horizontal res so their is no advantage at all in the "wide screen" at the end of the day.. you're watching the same thing in the same pixels, just with some black bars where the Samsung has air.. in app use though those extra pixels on the iPad come in really useful though..

guys.. think.. don't just blindly follow spec charts and marketing mumbo jumbo that have really no impact on the utility of the device and in some cases actually make the utility and usability of the device worse..
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I agree 100% doctorSpoc
NonZealot 25th Oct 2010
guys.. think.. don't just blindly follow spec charts and marketing mumbo jumbo that have really no impact on the utility of the device and in some cases actually make the utility and usability of the device worse..

Exactly right. A 10" screen is just marketing mumbo jumbo that has really no impact on the utility of the device and actually makes this device worse because it isn't very portable. Think guys, don't just blindly follow what Steve Jobs tells you.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
​ 25th Oct 2010
@NonZealot
knows !-> they

The new MBAs are fine and perfect:
http://guides.macrumors.com/MacBook_Air
http://www.apple.com/macbookair
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Tigertank 25th Oct 2010
@Nonzealot
Exactly right. A 10" screen is just marketing mumbo jumbo that has really no impact on the utility of the device and actually makes this device worse because it isn't very portable. Think guys, don't just blindly follow what Steve Jobs tells you.

A 10" screen is not just marketing mumbo jumbo NZ. It is a full-sized screen for viewing documents without zooming-in and panning all over the place. Why post like you don't understand this?. The ipad was never meant to fit in your pocket but it is more portable than a laptop.

A 7" screen means you still have to zoom in and pan around to see documents well but it still won't fit in your pocket.

It's a kludge. But not even a functional kludge - it is just a marketing kludge.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Jimster480 26th Oct 2010
@DannyO_0x98 Except that they could have. But they just don't want to. As the chinese already have tablets out that do all these things and more, some of them with very fast CPUs and high battery life. All for a fraction of the cost of these name brand tablets.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
Jimster480 26th Oct 2010
@frgough They use $50 Billion in cash to do what? They wouldn't have $50 billion in cash if they ACTUALLY DID RESEARCH. Or actually paid anyones but themselves. Apple is just sitting on a pile of cash, not spending it on anything. If your going to sit there and tell me that they actually put some real money into R&D on the iPhone 4, then you are a true iTard. And they did the same thing with the iPad. I think there R&D went like this, "lets take the iPod touch and make it have a 10" screen.. oh yea, and samsung is working on a 1GHZ arm based processor, lets see how much it would cost to get an Apple logo/tag on that so we can look like we made a chip. huh? who mentioned multitasking? Nah we dont need that, do you see how dumb are fans are? They can't even talk and chew gum at the same time, they definitely wont need to multitask."
Thats a typical R&D session at Apple. There is no innovation whatsoever. The only research they do is on Google (actually they are probably using Bing these days) to see what new tech is coming out so they can buy and/or patent it so they can say they created everything.
I do find it funny though how you talk trash about how Android doesn't have tablet Apps. I guess you fanboys forget that when the iPad came out, there were no tablet apps on the App store. And all the iPod touch apps ran and looked like crap because they were stretched out.
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My tablet needs to have a full OS
NonZealot 25th Oct 2010
While this Galaxy is far superior to the iPad, my usage requirements dictate that my tablet computing device has a full OS on it. I already have an excellent iOS device (my iPhone) so I have absolutely no need for a giant iPod Touch. I will be strongly considering the HP Slate 500.
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
DeusXMachina 25th Oct 2010
@NonZealot

Just rhetoric. I fail to see any indication that you need the slate either. You seem to be just making statements to bolster points, truth be damned.

If it IS true that you feel you need the HP Slate, who is it that is a sucker for marketing mumbo jumbo?
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Jimster480 26th Oct 2010
@DeusXMachina What are you saying? He says he wants a full OS on his tablet, so why are you bashing him for that?
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RE: What will you pay for an Android tablet? Wrong answer: $499
DeusXMachina 2nd Nov 2010
@Jimster480. No, he is saying that he needs a slate form factor AT ALL.
He is simply making a list based on what his perceptions are of the iPads weaknesses.
And what on earth is a "full OS?" I can easily define this term in such a way that it excludes any particular OS that I wish to exclude. It is just a bogus term.
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Value
bmonsterman 25th Oct 2010
Yea...companies trying to sell an Android alternative for iPad will need to deliver more value. I'm a fan of Android, but it needs to come down.
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mKind 25th Oct 2010
I would pay 300$ for this.
I am a techie, who works on Linux (both at home and office). But still I would pay 499 for a 10 inch IPad, than for a 7 inch Android device even if its having two extra cameras and expandable memory.
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It is about half the size and half the weight of the iPad
meh130@... 25th Oct 2010
The question is if the trade-off for size and portability is worth the reduced work space. Will the smaller size kill it as a reader? Probably not, as it is the same size as a Kindle, and has a larger screen. Will the smaller size kill it as an email device? Possibly. Bigger than a thumb typing smartphone, but smaller than a landscape touch typing iPad.

If the email experience can be made as good as a laptop, it will be a good bet it could succeed.
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ConcernedUser 25th Oct 2010
I do not understand your comment "but the iPad will wow you just as much as the Tab". The iPad does not even come close with the same features, wake-up! It is an oversize viewer that controls everything you put on the iPad, it either goes through iTunes or the Apple website and you pay for it all. No USB ports, TF or SD slot, no camera, etc. Were do you see the iPad doing the same functions as the Galaxy...I am not even a fan of the Galaxy, but lets compare apples to apples! Just because Apple is the leading player and sold you with $700 million in advertising, just makes them a great marketing company. Hitler quoted "the bigger the lie, the more people would believe"...sound familiar. I will leave you with one other though - Jan. 22, 1984 Superbowl Apple Mac commercial, poked a stick at the PC's control on the computer industry and 25 years later, Apple controls there market even more, come on Steve Jobs...Enough with the cheap sales talk!
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DeusXMachina 25th Oct 2010
@ConcernedUser

Godwin (and sense) say, you fail.

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