Between the Lines

Larry Dignan, Andrew Nusca and Rachel King

When Linux fails

By | December 8, 2008, 11:59am PST

Summary: At first glance, Free and Open Source software should be perfect for places like Mali. The local economy is poor, and average salaries make proprietary software an unimaginable expense for most people there. Yet the place is overrun with copies of Microsoft Windows.

[The opinions expressed here are mine alone, and not those of Google, Inc. my current employer.]

Recently I was able to visit the Ontario Linux Fest. I love shows like Ontario, as they’re run by amateurs, not by professional show companies. Don’t get me wrong; the professional shows have their place too, but I don’t tend to listen to the other speakers at those shows as I’ve heard most of them before. I’m sure they’ve all heard my talks as well, so instead we tend to hang out in the speaker rooms trying to get the wireless network to work, and swapping airline travel horror stories.

I do listen to the talks at smaller shows. Amateur shows are a labor of love, and it shows. The line up of speakers at the Ontario show was fascinating. One talk in particular caught my eye, by Ian Howard, called “Free and Open Source Software in Africa - Emerging Opportunities for Linux”. The slides from his talk are available here. The talk itself didn’t disappoint, and it was quite shocking, at least to me. It was a positive and upbeat talk about his experiences in Africa promoting Linux and Open Source software. But what he was really teaching us was an understanding of how Linux can fail in places like Africa.

Ian had gone to Africa as part of an organization called Geekcorps, dedicated to promoting IT use in developing nations. He worked on a range of projects in Mali, a West African nation which, like most African nations, is very undeveloped as far as IT is concerned.

Nigerian students power up their laptopsAt first glance, Free and Open Source software should be perfect for places like Mali. The local economy is poor, and average salaries make proprietary software an unimaginable expense for most people there. Yet the place is overrun with copies of Microsoft Windows. This is the toxic effect of what is called software “piracy” of course, although it bears little resemblance to what occurs off the coast of Somalia and is better called copyright infringement, as that’s what it really is. Copyright infringement doesn’t sound as threatening or scary as “piracy” though, does it ? The outcome of this rampant illegal software copying is that Windows is seen as “the first world standard” and any attempt to push a cheaper alternative is strongly resisted. They consider it trying to cheat local people out of getting the same quality of software that is used in the developed world, even though it’s a legal way of getting quality software for free.

Ian’s group first worked on a custom Linux distribution called “Kunnafonix”, designed for local radio stations. Local radio stations are an incredibly important communication tool in Africa, and most of them run on proprietary systems imported from the West, ill-suited for the temperature extremes and power requirements found in rural Africa. Kunnafonix was designed to be easy to use, install and repair, could be run as a live CD, and contained copies of the Wikipedia encyclopedia and the Audacity audio processing software. Many problems in operation could be fixed by doing a simple one-click reinstall to reset the system into a known good state.

However, installation of Kunnafonix was resisted by many of the local organizations they had to work with. The local “computer support person” resented a solution that was so easy to use that it undermined the power and prestige they received by being the person to consult when a Windows computer had problems. It’s amazing to see the myth that Linux is hard to use, install, and support still being propagated in much of the media here in the U.S., when in reality it is resented by Windows administrators due to its ease of use and lesser requirements for professional support.

More successful was their project to extend the Internet into communities by wireless networking, creating innovative ways to extend the range of wireless networks. In the wonderful talk “A New Way to look at Networking”  Van Jacobson, one of the creators of the modern TCP protocol, said “the Internet reaches everywhere in the world, it’s just that sometimes the latencies are really, really high”. Everyone in the world has access to the Internet, it’s just sometimes they get to it by bicycling to the next village to view content that someone has delivered to them by burning it onto a CD-ROM. Extending wireless networking to remote villages can cut that latency to the point where Internet access can make a positive difference to people’s everyday lives. They can check the local commodity prices to discover if it’s worth it before undergoing a day long trip to the market for example. This time they were able to teach local technicians to make and repair the wireless network infrastructure they were creating, which made a great difference.

In a region with no software development experience, even Open Source software isn’t going to help bootstrap a computer support or software industry where there is nothing to start with. Even though you can see all of the source code inside a Linux distribution, without local expertise and knowledge to support and maintain it, it might as well be a closed source Windows installation. In fact, as knowledge of Windows is already widespread in such areas, even though it’s due to illicit software copying, Windows may be a better choice until you can break through the network effects keeping it dominant.

What shone though clearly in Ian’s talk was that unless you can partner with the local people, and most importantly help them make money with the new systems you’re trying to get them to use, then you’re just another well-meaning interloper, trying to sell them something that probably won’t work. Making money is the key. Without the opportunity of economic benefits, people in developing countries simply don’t have the time to learn about Free and Open Source software, no matter how much it seems to fit their needs from an external point of view.

Jon “Maddog” Hall’s keynote talk at the Ontario Linux Fest also made this point in a very powerful way. Jon is a wonderfully entertaining speaker, and not afraid of controversy. Showing a picture of a child in the African bush holding a “One Laptop per Child” laptop he said, “I don’t care about this kid.” The audience drew a shocked breath. “He’s screwed,” continued Jon. “Five hundred miles of bush behind him, five hundred miles of bush in front of him. There’s nothing I can do to help here”. Jon flipped the slide to show a Brazilian “favela”, or slum city, with an incredibly dense population, seeming to cling to the side of a nearby hill. He said, “This is where I can help. These kids have electricity. They can get a network connection. I can do something with Open Source and Free Software here”.

Jon isn’t a callous person. He’s just decided to focus his resources on somewhere he knows he can help today. It’s hard to find fault with him for that.

Ian aimed higher, and when you aim higher you have further to fall when you miss. He’s recently completed an MBA, and is concentrating more on the business side of things than the technical. I learned a very valuable lesson from his talk though. Something I, like many Free and Open Source software geeks, often forget whilst concentrating on the technical side of the software we love. Sometimes, technical excellence isn’t enough. Linux and Open Source software can fail badly in the real world not because of technical issues, but because of economic issues. We have to remember the lesson learned in the US election of 1992, and again in 2008. Sometimes, “It’s the economy, stupid !”

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RE: When Linux fails
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Bravo nice article
Quebec-french 8th Dec 2008
truly love it .....
living installing and supporting pirated Windows and MS Office, and they have years doing it. They see NO reason to switch to Windows, where the end users do not need any help "pirating", or "fixing" the latest anti-piracy features of Windows or MS Office.

So, watch out what you try to make easy. Some people do not like it.
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And the solution is???
No_Ax_to_Grind 8th Dec 2008
Or is there one?
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Time.
TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 8th Dec 2008
I think the author nailed it though,
What shone though clearly in Ian?s talk was that unless you can partner with the local people, and most importantly help them make money with the new systems you?re trying to get them to use

If the local economy is based on illegal windows, you either have to accept that or show them how using legal software will make them money. Take the radio station example, how much downtime is prevented with a malware free (and remaining that way) solution. This is very common because most pirated copies are hacked to contain malware from the get go.

TripleII
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In itself...
AndyCee 8th Dec 2008
most pirated copies are hacked to contain malware from the get go.

That's a hard one to explain to someone who's been using it for a long time.
running. And, every time MS tweaks the anti-piracy features, they make a small fortune "fixing" it for all of their clients.
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So the client gets
mdemuth 8th Dec 2008
a solution that works (overall), and they don't have to give up the things they like in order to use Linux.
Funny, the fact that so many are willing to pay sounds more like 'how bad (free)Linux is' then 'how much Windows (for a fee) needs to be fixed'
into the predictable fanboy fantasy flame war it
always does. Normally I might disdain to join in
grappling in the mire but there is a point which the
article made which you seem to have missed. The
original author clearly does not believe that Window$
is better or they would not be wasting their time
evangelising Linux to West Africa! If you actually
read what was said, locals perceive Windows to be the
software of the first world and resist any attempt
which they perceive to be foisting an inferior system
off on them. It is this perception issue which drives
the entire argument. Numbers, % marketshare, all add
up to nothing. What is more telling is that the author
is paid by Google to refine Samba. I use all 3 OS and
they all have their points, but increasingly I am
using the browser in each of them to get stuff done.
It is not hard to see the entry of the 'Chrome' 'OS'
on whatever as the future....
Oh and by the way... I write web app stuff for a
living...the organisation I work for is equally
deceived about M$ perception...and as they go about
their day in I.E. they are naively unaware that they
could do it in (shock horror!!!) linux or OS X just as
easily. It will stay that way until the day they have
to, if ever. They will continue to bury their heads in
the mound of red Washington soil that half of you
think is bulldust and the other half think is sacred
ground until something takes it away. If I have done
my job I will have them productive again by 11.00AM if
that day ever comes, on whatever ( currently Ubuntu,
Apache and Fedora ). It is no longer about the
tools...it is about the processes ...and the sooner
everyone realises that having all the eggs in one
basket is ok for omelette making and fatal for
anything else...the better.
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Bravo!
GuyAlanDye 10th Dec 2008
Wow. It is so infrequent that I read responses on ZDNet Talkback of this quality. Thanks!

I agree with nearly everything you said, but have to ask as someone who has followed the "money train" that drives to Redmond, Washington ever evening.

You say you work for a company that is "equally deceived about M$ perception" and that "the sooner everyone realizes" that an all-Microsoft solution is "fatal." Why and/or How is this fatal?

What if the company has built their solution on 100% Windows and has made a lot of money running their business this way? What if the owner of this medium-sized business is technical, has actually spoken with Microsoft Tech Support, and sings their praises when asked specifically about a potential change in technical direction to something more affordable?

This is an example of an all-Microsoft shop who (until this year) continually beats previous year earnings projections. This owner/manager is a Mac user at home. I've had long conversations about what the Mac does that he wishes Windows could do but will not participate in "holy war" type of discussions concerning what OS is better than another.

Is he driving his business off the side of a cliff by sticking with what has worked for him for nearly thirteen years? And why, if he won't admit to it, does that make him a user facing technical mortality?
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I think I can answer that.
914four Updated - 12th Dec 2008
You say you work for a company that is "equally deceived about M$ perception" and that "the sooner everyone realizes" that an all-Microsoft solution is "fatal." Why and/or How is this fatal?

Microsoft has the highest cost to exit of any environment save high availability gear such as z/OS or NonStop. If you are running your business on AIX, it is (relatively) easy to switch to HP-UX, Solaris or Linux, and most vendors offer migration services (IBM would love to migrate you from UX on Itanium to AIX on p6 for example). The issue is, if you are an all Microsoft shop, the headaches and technical difficulties to migrate to a xNIX (or Apple) environment are enormous, even if you discount the MS admins who will fight tooth and nail to prevent the migration. Having worked with many shops that have tried it, and migrated many customers from Novell or Banyan environments to Windows, it's always a lot easier to get into Microsoft than to get out. And when you eventually realize what you are spending on Microsoft (including the additional admins) it's usually to late.
It's sort of like smoking, once you start it's hard to stop. Better not to start at all.

I agree that with you about the quality of the post though happy
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Good old Donnie, driving away potencial users.
No_Ax_to_Grind 10th Dec 2008
DonnieBoy is a perfect example of why Linux is such a turn off to soooo many. Calling people names, making fun of their choices, and berating them in general has never been a good way to win folks over, something most Linux fans will never understand.

Clue for ya Donnie, its an OS, not a religion...
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markbn 9th Dec 2008
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This is very common because most pirated copies are hacked to contain malware from the get go.
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how do you know that? Are there any global statistics showing that? (please I don't care if your granny or your neighbor got a malware-infected pirated copy) Or is just your wild a$s guess?

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how much downtime is prevented with a malware free (and remaining that way) solution
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Maybe there is no such downtime because not everybody is a naive user who allows malware to infect their Windows copy.

By the way, if they were so overwhelmed with malware it will be not so hard to convince them to switch to Linux. But you (and I) do not know that, do we? The author of the blog post did not care not find out either. Thus, your argument is as valid as that a giant turtle is supporting the earth.
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Um, how?
No_Ax_to_Grind 9th Dec 2008
What can it do for a poor African village to help them make money?
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The people who sell an maintain the machines are the ones making money. But they don't know Linux and they think a more stable and easier OS will cut into their cash cow.
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it's not profit, it's cost...
brokndodge@... 9th Dec 2008
if you can convince them that it cost more than windows, then in their minds it will be worth more than windows. You can sell a Linux server with 100 user license for more money than and equal Windows server. When you tell the client it cost more because it's better, they will believe you and buy it.

now same client, different scenario... tell your customer that a windows server with a 100 user license is good, but you can save them money with a much better linux server. see if they don't pick the windows server this time.

point being, the more it cost the better it is, period. at least thats what the world is taught to believe.
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What do these people care about Malware
Yax_to_the_Max 12th Dec 2008
Current Malware does not affect these users as it is not designed to crash the PC anymore. Malware today are used to steal personal financial info which these users simply do not have so that argument goes right out the window.
Keeping Windows and MS Office held together with duct tape and bailing wire is just too profitable.
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You should stop being a shill
mdemuth 8th Dec 2008
If alternatives worked well enough, the people that use the computers would use the alternatives.
To say 'the average user is stupid' is only making an excuse for how bad the alternatives are. Everyone, even the 'average Joe 6-pack' has seen Apple commercials, has heard that MS isn't the only game in town.
They understand that; they choose MS products.

Once you accept that, then maybe Linux and Apple and the alternatives to Windows will stop crying their eyes out about how pathetic their market share is (and how few people,given the option, choose them) and do something about it.
like make a better product.
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Easy there tex
frgough 9th Dec 2008
Apple is having record sales. Hardly crying about how horrible their market share is.
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So is HP
mswift@... 9th Dec 2008
HPs increase in sales is worldwide, Apple's is mainly US and Japan. As a percentage of the total market Windows sales/usage are up, Apple sales/usage are up more, and Linux usage is down.

The author should be giving the entire Linux community the same advice, show profits.
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..as follows.

As a percentage of the total US market Windows sales/usage are up, Apple sales/usage are up more, and Linux usage is down.

This trend does not apply to the rest of the world.
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and you forgot
markbn Updated - 9th Dec 2008
As a percentage of the total US market Windows
sales/usage are up, Apple sales/usage are up more, and
Linux usage is down. Meanwhile, Desktop Linux usage is
unknown in the rest of the world, but presumably,
since Jeremy is taking about Linux being rejected in
Africa, it appears than in Africa Linux usage
is lower than Windows too.

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This trend does not apply to the rest of the world.
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You do NOT know that

And please don't be ridiculous to equate a "searched
term" with desktop linux usage
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And can sell Linux PCs in North America
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/286522-0-0-225-121.html
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I don't cry about market share....
todbran@... 9th Dec 2008
but rather celebrate the fact that Linux is such a superior product to Windows. Especially compared to Vista, the new and improved Widows Me (the disaster that was before XP).
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Great!
markbn 9th Dec 2008
Keep celebrating in your mom's basement while the rest
of the population uses Windows. How nice.
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"Keep celebrating in your mom's basement while the rest
of the population uses Windows. How nice.
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I will keep celabrating, you know why? Because dont feel any need to use some other system "because others do too" - that is just stupid. If my system does what I need and does it better then why should I change to something else? That's simply sad.
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It's your choice.
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"If alternatives worked well enough, the people that use the computers would use the alternatives."

Clearly it is not so and I could list numerous examples, but couple should be enough.

Remember OS/2 WARP? It's an interestng case if you know enough... I remember the time when OS/2 was propably bigger threat to future of windows. Articles on "Win95 vs. OS/2, which one will win?" were constantly a subject of magazines and both were well known OS's to anyone who knew something about computers - and at that time the basic users knowledge was on higher level than it is today. There alse were no vendor lock-in to force people to stay on windows as OS/2 had built-in win3.1 environment (thanks to past co-operation between IBM & M$) that was not only fully compliant with M$ windows, but could actually run the programs more reliably. It was also the most reliable and stable end user OS available back then - and on most places still at least on par with newer releases of windows in stability. I actually bought it, used it and finally had to give up - before I 1st time tried linux in 2002 it (os2) was the only OS I knew to be even close to such level of reliability.

Why did they lost then? I have my own opinions on that, but I'd like to hear yours...

"To say 'the average user is stupid' is only making an excuse for how bad the alternatives are. Everyone, even the 'average Joe 6-pack' has seen Apple commercials, has heard that MS isn't the only game in town."

I dont claim most people to be stupid, but I do claim that most people do, on some level, know about "alternatives" - and in their minds the word usually is "alternative", yes, within quotes.

"Once you accept that, then maybe Linux and Apple and the alternatives to Windows will stop crying their eyes out about how pathetic their market share is (and how few people,given the option, choose them) and do something about it.
like make a better product.
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...so when we discuss about why people choose other OS's and what could we do to change that, you whine that we are pathetic criers? happy I'd say that is a pathetic attempt at trolling if anything.
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Have you ever visited...
mikefarinha 9th Dec 2008
Have you ever visited a little place people like to call 'reality?'
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Wonderful article Jeremy. This really gets past the incessant windows vs linux dogfight and instead offers food for thought.

As to what the solution is, I think the right answer is don't worry about people you think "should" want linux, if you find that they really don't. More specifically, some problems you can solve, some you can't. If the problem was lack of some specific "killer app" which was within reach of the community, then the answer would be different. But in the situation described, the preference is more fundamental.

Resources would be better focused on solving problems for users who want linux. In the MS vs Linux strategic sense, the continued existence of linux forces MS to turn a blind eye to copyright infringement in much of the world, which it does at no small cost to itself. I'm not saying the 3rd world would cough up anywhere near retail price to use windows legally. However, for much of the planet they have to accept (and all but promote) the use of MS software for free. This limits how effective they can really make copy protection solutions for the whole world, not just the 3rd world. Also, changing mindsets will be very difficult if/when MS ever tries to bring these areas into the fold. And when/if they do, linux can then decide to go back and win over hearts and minds.
more revenue in the short term by going after the pirates in Africa, but, that would force a large percentage over to Linux and OpenOffice, and in the end create an ecosystem around Linux, and severely reduce the network effect, thus reducing the revenue in the long term.

Ya gotta feel for 'em.
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very true.
itchy8me 10th Dec 2008
psychology. you're right. just shows how scared they really are

I like likening windows to a fast growing weed and linux to a slow growing oak. Linux is busy blooming at this moment in time and the time for windows is almost up. Windows even shows the same analogy of trying to choke its neighbouring plants and taking over the scene.Considering how old linux is and how long its lasted, i'm pretty sure the oak tree has matured and that the weed will soon die.

I'm glad windows was there, it proved to be usefull, lets move on and stop bickering about total ********.
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I agree
914four 12th Dec 2008
Microsoft will not be able to continue to compete with Open Source unless they Open Source themselves. Proprietary software will eventually become a curiosity from the past like rotary phones and black & white televisions.
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Nailed it!
20kwfence 9th Dec 2008
I use Windows and some Linux. I prefer Windows because I am used to it and it works good. If I ever had to pay for Windows, I would switch that day.

Windows is included with a new machine basically free (try buying a machine without it, you don't save much if any). Microsoft allows it to be pirated, and not just in third world countries. If they ever cracked down hard on this, they would lose huge market share. Windows is worth something, just not anywhere near what they ask for it.
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Infrastructure and economics.
CobraA1 9th Dec 2008
Gotta have the basics before jumping into the tech world. A lot of these countries need some basic infrastructure.

In addition, many of these countries need an introduction to basic free market economics. They're often poor because they're stuck with governments that know little about modern economic theory, and when they try to "fix" the problem by throwing more money at it, the result is often inflation.

The problem isn't really how much money there is - the problem is that there is very, very little trade outside a village. Making more money is 100% useless if you can't move resources.

What really makes our economy run is the ability to move resources. Food, water, electricity, materials, widgets, etc. It's not just about the money - it's about the availability of resources.

Our economy has done so well for so long because we've got moving resources down to an art. Water, food, and electricity are readily available, and we can ship anything as far as we want (and often as fast as we want). Obtaining a resource is not a question of whether we can find a way to get it but rather how much it costs.

In the USA and Europe, we have the infrastructure to move practically anything anywhere. Even oceans are no big barrier to our trade.

The same can't be said for the poorer countries. They don't have that infrastructure. Transportation is often rare and expensive. Pipes and power lines still need to be built in many places. Many may not have mail or package delivery systems - something often overlooked, but was a key to the success of first world nations.
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RE: Infrastructure and Economics
fatman65535 Updated - 9th Dec 2008
You have nailed it squarely on the head. Without infrastructure, things will not get better. We are talking the basics here:

Clean Water
Electricity
Communications
Transport
Sanitation
Housing
Agriculture

We waste a lot of time throwing verbal hand grenades at fanbois of other operating systems. Many of us do it for amusement.

In Africa however, the throwing of real grenades, and the squandering of what money these countries earn on weapons of war is a serious problem.

Military leaders would rather spend money on munitions (to prop themselves up) than spend their foreign income on water and road systems.

Tribalism is another aspect that needs to be overcome. Too often there are repeated tribal conflicts, leading to severe casualties on both sides. Just look at the Tutsi's and ther Hutu's; and their clashes over the decades.

The people in Africa are going to have to want a better life; and be prepared to make the sacrifices to get it.

Side note:

Many of us in the USA thought that the outcome of the 2000 elections was a disaster. Yet, we as a nation did not riot, and burn buildings to express our dislike of the results. Events since then have shown that many of us were indeed correct.

Now, in January, that baton will be passed to a new leader, who many do not consider "experienced" enough to lead. Time will tell how right or wrong those naysayers are. I think that the one stabilizing thing for the USA is that there is a limit on how long someone can be President. We do not have such "miracles" like the nearly half century reign of the Castro brothers; or the machinations of a failed dictator in a South American oil exporting country; who wants to stay in power, and twist that country's Constitution to make it happen.

For all of its faults, at least in the USA, we do not have to deal with relics like Mugabwe.
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Nobody wants war or poverty.
CobraA1 9th Dec 2008
"The people in Africa are going to have to want a better life; and be prepared to make the sacrifices to get it."

Let's get one thing straight: Nobody wants war or poverty. This is not a matter of people not wanting a better life. Of course they do.

The issues are quite a bit more complex than that, but usually they boil down to selfishness, hoarding, corruption, and broken economic systems.
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Solution? Get the SPAA in on the act
grail@... 9th Dec 2008
The sooner those folks in Somalia start paying for their
copies of Windows, the sooner I won't have to put up with
WGA ********.
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You don't have to.
fr0thy2 Updated - 10th Dec 2008
Just learn a little and have a computer that does what YOU want from a computer, not what some greedy filthy pigs say you can have.
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Solution: Windows falls behind Linux in developed countries
softwareFlunky Updated - 15th Dec 2008
Well, it's more a scenario than a solution. To call it a solution you'd have to think Windows is a problem. Who would think that? Anyway, it would make using Linux more acceptable and even more desirable in undeveloped countries. The way things are going with the economy, Windows pricing and Linux's growing acceptance, maybe it will happen.
make too much money selling pirated Windows and MS Office, "fixing" the latest anti-piracy tweaks, and cleaning up after viruses. A world where everything got a lot easier horrifies them.
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The locals want what the West uses
A.Sinic 9th Dec 2008
They dont want to see themselves as needing a "cheaper" alternative. They want what everybody else is using, even if it is a dodgy copy.

This is a basic cultural issue. It's the same one the milk companies use to push baby-milk products in developing countries. The women dont need them, and the children will suffer from it (not least from using bad water), but the companies keep showing "modern" western women feeding their children this way and the local women want the same. Otherwise they feel they are failing their children and not keeping up with the times.
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Agree.
WmTConqror 9th Dec 2008
It's not a MS vs Linux issue. It's not the "repair tech" keeping them down.

It's this. People want what successful people have, they don't want to feel they are getting something cheaper. Even if it isn't.

I have gone through both sides of wanting "the best" in America. Worked on contract to the government, supported a large multi-site organization. Many attempts and suggestions came to mitigate the amount of money spent on desktops. Rolldowns (taking last years super machine and issuing it to a secretary or receptionist for example) / purchase of models adiquate for the work being done / produced (instead of purchasing 500 of the top of the line, purchase 100 for the people who need them and use the rest of the money to purchase almost double the number (from 400 to 800) of average computers). From a top level all this was agreed but when new PCs came out, regardless of what peoples jobs and duties were, users wanted it. Users who's primary (almost exclusive) job to use 3 products: an internet browser, word processor, and email, would absolutely have fits about having to use "old" technology. Even though a faster processor / more ram really didn't improve their productivity. At that point the upper maangement not wanting "their" secretary / buddy etc.. to be "short changed" would put in a request to have that person get a state of the art paperwate. So rollout after rollout was a battle to get the best equipment to the engineers who neededed it.
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Overcoming the 'interloper' status is key
zaine_ridling 8th Dec 2008
Great post, Jeremy! Interloper is a good word to describe Windows' penetration. Microsoft either directly aids it (see Ukraine right now) or looks the other way for a decade or more (see China), and in this case, it's Africa.

Too bad, too, since Microsoft's implicit position is: It's better to steal Windows than use Linux. Meanwhile, all of us 'white devils' get to pay full price and are presumed criminals until our copies are validated and authenticated with every boot in the US and Europe.

Tells you a lot about Microsoft, doesn't it?
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What if
bladeoz 8th Dec 2008
Microsoft decided go after all the copyright infringers in Africa and China, would you then scream "bloody murder" because they couldn't afford the software?

I think Microsoft are attacked regardless of what they do by a lot of people.
crackdown on Windows / Office piracy in Africa would result in a whole lot of people switching to Linux and OpenOffice.

So, in the end, MS is not that stupid.
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has not worked elsewhere...
LoungeFlyX 9th Dec 2008
People still pirate stuff in the US even though it is illegal etc... Why do you think they would switch?

They wouldnt.

The govt has better things to worry about like starving children.
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It does tell you a lot.
gypkap@... 9th Dec 2008
Microsoft is smart. They ignore the piracy and still have their applications out there and in use. When the "pirates" go legit, they use the software they know.
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daengbo 9th Dec 2008
When I lived in Thailand (2000-2004), there was a big push to reduce piracy there. This resulted in a boost for FLOSS as people didn't have the two-three weeks' salary to buy a legal copy of Windows, much less all the software for it.

MS saw that situation and rushed in to to lower prices by 95% or more. Suddenly, a real Windows disk could be had for almost the same price as a pirated disk so people stayed within their comfort zone and had no reason to switch anymore. Everything went back to the status quo.

MS knows that piracy is what helps to keep Windows on developing nations' desktops.
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