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Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?

By | April 27, 2011, 12:00pm PDT

Summary: With Honeycomb, Google could have a Vista-like situation on its hands. Microsoft’s salvation was Windows 7, and Google’s is IceCream.

You remember Vista don’t you? Microsoft’s much maligned operating system that followed Windows XP? I’m sure many of you are trying to forget it, so apologies for the reminder. The reason I bring it up is that there are many parallels between Vista and Android Honeycomb. Google could have another Vista on its hands, and it would do well to learn from Microsoft’s ordeal.

By many measures Vista was a vast improvement over its predecessor. 5 years in the making, it introduced the visually stunning Aero interface, integrated search, better security, ReadyBoost, SuperFetch, IPv6, Direct3D 10, and more. By mid-2008, over 180 million copies had been sold.

This pales in comparison to Windows XP, however. The industry breathed a sigh of relief when Vista was replaced in 2009 with Windows 7. By early 2011, Win7 sales passed 300 million. Many enterprise customers skipped Vista altogether and went from XP to Win7.

What was wrong with Vista (and Honeycomb)?

So what was wrong with Vista? There were a number of individual problems such as incompatibility with older devices, and a penchant for asking for security permission on many common operations. But I think the biggest one was perception.

Consider that in its first year of availability, PC World named it as the biggest tech disappointment of 2007, and InfoWorld rated it #2 on a list of Tech’s all-time flops. Just the mention of the name “Vista” was enough to scare off potential users. In one marketing campaign users rated Vista 4.4 out of 10 but gave a new operating system named “Mojave” 8.5 out of 10. Mojave was just Vista with a different name.

Now compare that with how Windows 7 was received. PC World named it one of the best products of 2009. CNET described Win7 as “what Vista should have been”, giving it 4.5 out of 5 stars. Techradar called it “the best Windows OS ever”.

Win7 must have been a major rewrite of Vista for this kind of turnaround, right? Nope. Windows 7 is basically Vista with a few focused, incremental enhancements such as a new Taskbar, transparent window borders, and some performance tweaks. The system requirements are the same as Vista, and the drivers are the same.

If some hardware didn’t work with Vista it wouldn’t work with Win7 either. But everybody loved it. Vista had a bad reputation, but Windows 7 got a good reputation.

Lately, I see Honeycomb being maligned in the press. Jason Perlow called it “half-baked” and “a piece of junk”. John Paczkowki says the Motorola Xoom (the first tablet to run Honeycomb) is “at best a dud, at worst a bomb”. Is that perception or reality?

Continue reading: Perception vs. reality >

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Ed Burnette is a software industry veteran with more than 25 years of experience as a programmer, author, and speaker. He has written numerous technical articles and books, most recently "Hello, Android: Introducing Google's Mobile Development Platform" from the Pragmatic Programmers.

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Ed Burnette is a Manager of Mobile Development at SAS. However the postings on this site are his own and do not represent the positions, strategies, or opinions of his employer.

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Ed Burnette

Ed Burnette has been hooked on computers ever since he laid eyes on a TRS-80 in the local Radio Shack. Since graduating from NC State University he has programmed everything from serial device drivers and debuggers to web servers. After a delightful break working on commercial video games, Ed reluctantly returned to business software. He currently develops enterprise software for Android phones and tablets.

In his copious spare time, Ed writes and speaks about all kinds of technology and software. His most recent books include the Eclipse IDE Pocket Guide from O'Reilly and Hello, Android: Introducing Google's Mobile Development Platform from the Pragmatic Programmers.

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chrishendrickson12 1st May
Multi-criteria Vista was a huge step forward compared to its predecessor. 5 years in development, it came out with a new attractive interface, Aero, integrated search, improved security, ReadyBoost, SuperFetch, IPv6, Direct3D 10, and other features.

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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
browser. 27th Apr 2011
Yes and this is Google's downfall similar to Microsoft's downfall with Vista... In another 5 years, we would have Google search becoming ir-relevant and MS's OS becoming ir-relevant
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Bates_ 27th Apr 2011
@browser. Downfall implies they are out for the count and not coming back. Might want to rephrase your words because MS and Google aren't going anywhere. And you can't even begin to think that a tablet only OS from Google will bring the mighty empire crumbling to the ground.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
LiquidLearner 27th Apr 2011
@Bates_

I think he was being sarcastic. At least I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I don't know many who bash Google and MS in one post seriously.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
browser. 27th Apr 2011
@Bates_ Well I did miss the [/Sarcasm] tag... I am kinda annoyed how the tech press would throw down a product with one bad release! Well flush the entire company down the toilet and be done with it.
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Honeycomb = Vista, ChokemOS = Kin
LBiege 27th Apr 2011
All Goog knows is copying everything MSFT does including their flops.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
BIGELLOW 27th Apr 2011
@Bates_ This is just Microsoft's and Apple's FUD machines at work. Nothing to see here, really.
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The Apple trolls return...
Kenny Strawn 27th Apr 2011
@Bates_

I bet you "browser." is an Apple evangelist, which is why he posted that. Of course, there's not only Ice Cream to worry about for the resurrection of Google after Honeycomb but also Chrome OS:

* Instant web, something newbies will love
* Fast boot, something newbies will love
* Apps not only glorified bookmarks but some of them also packaged into CRX files and install locally, something newbies will love knowing that some apps will work without an Internet connection
* Compatible with anything that can run on the Web, including some popular Web sites and apps, something newbies will love
* Applications loading quickly and design being all about speed, something newbies will love
* Software not costing anything and ad support high, making for cheaper devices which newbies will love

Before you go and prejudice an OS, think about what the OS is really intended to do.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
marygrace1 29th Aug
@Bates_ yeah I think I really agree on you bates but one thing that I did not understand is that what is honeycomb really for?
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You remember Vista don?t you? Microsoft?s much maligned operating system that followed Windows XP? I?m sure many of you are trying to forget it, so apologies for the reminder. The reason I bring it up is that there are many parallels between Vista and Android Honeycomb. Google could have another Vista on its hands, and it would do well to learn from Microsoft?s ordeal.
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You remember Vista don?t you? Microsoft?s much maligned operating system that followed Windows XP? I?m sure many of you are trying to forget it, so apologies for the reminder. The reason I bring it up is that there are many parallels between Vista and Android Honeycomb. Google could have another Vista on its hands, and it would do well to learn from Microsoft?s ordeal.
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Google always finds a way to innovate and make the best out of project failures. I agree, Google isn't going anywhere. Microsoft I don't know though.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
LisaHarris99 4th Nov
Anybody else confused if he's being serious or sarcastic? I've read it a few times and I can't tell if he's genuinely hating Google or not.

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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
Habiloso 27th Apr 2011
@browser.

MS Made huge promises about Vista Ultimate - promises about all the specials and extras that would only be available to VU users. MS never kept its word and those extras and specials were never delivered. That alone makes Vista very different to Android. Google made no such promises and has not acted dishonestly and deceitfully.
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True to a point
wolf_z 28th Apr 2011
@ptorning

I run Vista Ultimate at home. There really weren't many extras, but one extra I love is the animated wallpaper. I have a lovely waterfall that really is soothing.

That may not sound like much (and it really isn't) but it's a pleasant touch none the less, and I really like it. happy

The true value of ultimate was *NOT* the extras, which even if they had been delivered would have still have been icing. The real value was the fact Ultimate was Business+Home Premium.

I think MS made a mistake when they segregated features--a mistake that was corrected in Win 7. Ultimate *is* a nice version of Vista, it's got everything both the lesser versions have.

Bash Ultimate for not delivering promised extras, but don't forget it *is* the ultimate Vista because of the combination of features.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
Jeffrey1980 8th Sep
@ptorning probably not considering honeycomb is the first actual Tablet PC Android OS , it's more like going from 98 to XP
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with the advantage that windows vista had that the users only had to switch to another one of their own products. With android they dont have that comfort


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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
Rob.sharp@... 28th Apr 2011
@browser.

Did I step into a time machine or what? I thought this article was supposed to be about Honeycomb but instead it talks about Vista until the final paragraph.
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@rob.sharp@... Ha.. I thought the same thing. I didn't care for Vista and Honeycomb but I realize some releases will be more valuable and successful then others. Not everything is a home run!

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.... that I had with Vista?
It's like a religious nut saying the cancer is all in your head!
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@browser. I totally disagree with this. Google is getting stronger and stronger. Especially with the recent purchase of Motorola. It is aso at the forfront of the mobile revolution. It could indeed be microsoft that suffers.
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@browser. Personally I could not see them becomming irrelevant but I am sure things will change
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@browser.
Microsoft came back with windows xp however it had an advantage that there was no one to take its place in the interim whereas android wont have that priveldge


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chrishendrickson12 1st May
Multi-criteria Vista was a huge step forward compared to its predecessor. 5 years in development, it came out with a new attractive interface, Aero, integrated search, improved security, ReadyBoost, SuperFetch, IPv6, Direct3D 10, and other features.

http://androidxiphone.com/
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
Rama.NET Updated - 27th Apr 2011
We know you are an Android boy and never ever reaally like Microsoft. Thats why you didn't bring Honecomb issue until page 3, by the time people go there they would be half bored if not full, so they won't really read it. Yawn, another pale post from the google apologist, nothing to read, moving on.
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Ed Burnette 27th Apr 2011
@Rama.NET I'm an equal opportunity apologist. Sadly, I'm still waiting on my checks from Google, Apple, Microsoft, Eclipse, and everybody else.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
Rama.NET 27th Apr 2011
@Ed Burnette
I never said you are getting paid by Google. But your comparison of Vista with Honeycomb might make sense, but for the first two pages you were discussing about how bad was vista and then on 3rd page you said it was Xoom's problem not Honeycomb.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
dave95. 27th Apr 2011
@Ed Burnette

"When people ask me what to buy I tell them to check out the alternatives from others like Acer, Asus, LG, Samsung, and Sony"

Equal opportunity apologist? Then shouldn't Apple be in the above list of company/devices to check out? wink
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Well, If Anything He Painted a Rosy Picture of Vista
CFWhitman Updated - 28th Apr 2011
@Rama.NET
He basically said that most of the problems with Vista were really just perception, and that in reality it wasn't bad. He says that Windows 7, which people think is great, is really Vista with a few tweaks.

I actually think that Vista deserves less credit than he gives it. It's problems weren't about features (although it didn't have all those promised). It's problems were about generally flaky operation and unreliability. If you could manage to get all the patches eventually released installed, then it wasn't as bad, but it never seemed to work correctly in a Windows domain.

The reason Windows 7 is so much better (and it is significantly better) is not about design, but rather, execution. Windows 7 is basically Vista repaired. That really is a big improvement, regardless of the lack of many additional features.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
erichmercado 27th Apr 2011
In my opinion, Windows Vista is satisfactory OS. It's installed on my MacBook Pro and it work perfectly. And I don't agree that Vista is useless. Over time, updates made Vista more stable and it gets your work done in no time. If Google can deploy updates to Honeycomb pertaining to stability and performance enhancements, Honeycomb will compete head-to-head with iOS.
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RE: Is Honeycomb Android's Vista?
striker67 27th Apr 2011
@erichmercado I couldn't agree more. I always found vista to be a solid OS. I have had a Xoom for over a month now and have had no issues without having to root it. Would I like the SD slot to work, obviously, but other than that I have over 30 apps installed and all running just fine.
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iOS is crap
ldselder Updated - 27th Apr 2011
@erichmercado Let me state this in all Caps iOS is CRAP, and I will tell you why it is crap. IOS has less then a handfull of hardware it has to deal with, most other operating systems have thousand's if not millions of combinations they have to work with, which to me means all the others are far superior to anything Apple has ever produced, if Apple wanted to have a real comparison they would let clone makers make clone apples and try to use the Apple software, but they do not because it would literally fail...

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