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Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?

By | November 10, 2008, 12:34pm PST

Summary: Sadly, we’re talking about the other kind of pink slip. I know what you’re probably thinking: What a ridiculous question. There is no gentle way to hand out pink slip. There is no way to be told that “your services are no longer needed” but “here is the number to our local unemployment office” and/or “an [...]

Sadly, we’re talking about the other kind of pink slip.

I know what you’re probably thinking: What a ridiculous question. There is no gentle way to hand out pink slip. There is no way to be told that “your services are no longer needed” but “here is the number to our local unemployment office” and/or “an explanation of why we won’t be offering severance packages this round” that doesn’t sting. Want to do it better? Don’t do it at all.

But, it is hard to argue that there aren’t better and worse ways to break bad news. Countless layoff horror stories abound– from IMs to being informed by security that you are just a “visitor” now and disabled network connections–suggesting that even the so-called smartest companies could use a little tutorial in how to break bad news with respect and tact.

Jason Calcanis, on the day his company, Mahalo, shed 10 percent of their staff, shared lessons he’d learned laying off employees with TechCrunch.

1. Don’t spread layoffs over multiple rounds: Rounds of layoffs is a “horrible idea”, says Calcanis, because it creates massive fear and uncertainty inside of your organization.
2. Lay people off in a group, not individually: Calcanis found that telling people one-by-one was not more humane.
3. Don’t sugarcoat the rationale: Be 100 percent honest and upfront about why you chose to keep some people and not others.
4. Cutting jobs is better than cutting salaries: Rather than angering everyone in the organization by hurting all of their bottom lines, cut a few salaries altogether and leave the people you want to keep as happy as possible.

5. Give severance even if you don’t have to, and freelancer work, where you can: Be as generous as you can be, said Calcanis, and don’t forget these people when you start hiring again.
6. Lay people off at the end of the day: No need to keep people around until the end of the day or week. When they’re done, let them leave.
7. Get over it and get back to work: The reality is, everyone else needs to get back to work.

How about you? If you’ve ever been laid off, how do you think it could have been handled better?

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RE: Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?
DotNetSteve 10th Dec 2008
I worked for a company where my manager asked my group to 'go into the conference room'. The manager walked into the conference room and informed us that anyone in our group that was not in the conference room was laid off. While we sat there, security brought up boxes and escorted the unlucky ones out the building.
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How about this:
DonnieBoy 10th Nov 2008
"I'm sorry that the collateral debt obligations that were securitised as part of our ongoing risk amelioration program have resulted in a capitalisation issue that affects our human resources capacity"
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You are an expert, aren't you?
markbn 10th Nov 2008
Surely you were laid off from everywhere before getting used to the idea that the only place for you is your mom's basement.
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Is That What Your Mom Said To...
Kromaethius 10th Nov 2008
You before she kicked your butt to the curb?

My lord, there's no end with you, is there?
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..."you have been made redundant".
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I'm confused about #6
techvet 10th Nov 2008
You say "Lay people off at the end of the day" but then you say "No need to keep people around until the end of the day..."

Well, which is it?
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I'm confused about it too n/t
markbn 10th Nov 2008
n/t = no text
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She means
daengbo 11th Nov 2008
Not to tell them 8 hours of five days before they're gone.
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Have a layoff party.
T1Oracle Updated - 10th Nov 2008
Only laid off people are invited. The trick is to make certain that no one knows what its for, why only certain people are invited, or why its mandatory until they announce it at the party.

The "sympathy" cake and ice cream should work wonders too!

I should work in upper management happy

Also, make sure no sharp objects are brought to the party...
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? Management in Plastic?
madrucke@... 11th Nov 2008
quote:
The "sympathy" cake and ice cream should work wonders too!
end quote

Yeah works really great for throwing at management! happy

Mike Sr.
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The mirror image of your party was the norm
lost in Texas 11th Nov 2008
at 3-Initial Corp's Consulting business operations. The Pig's swineherds would send out a mandatory invitation to a conference call a day in advance, to a distribution list so you couldn't see whose names were on it. There were operators to verify each person's admittance to the call. You were then told that a layoff had happened and that you, the attendees, had survived. Since no workers knew who else was on the call, you asked your mates for the next four weeks, "..were you on that call on July 5th?" One of the most memorable calls was on July 5th, 2001. The Fourth was on a Wednesday so the swineherds had to scramble to find everyone who was out on vacation and separate them into their respective herds. Nice moves!!

Slightly more unnerving is the way the City of Fort Worth lays off. A job catagory is selected (based on perceived ease of contracting it if needed) and then selection of those laid off starts with the higher salaries, regardless of performance evelauation. So theoretically the most knowledgeable performers get axed first; and did I mention there is no severance pay? Your unused vacation time is all you get in that final check.
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this really only talks about redundancy situations, where often you have no choice. What about people who are just rubbish and need to go?
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Probationary Period?
madrucke@... 11th Nov 2008
Wow! I can relate to this one...

Sometimes it's easier to get rid of the good people because they are less likely to go kicking and screaming...

In this case, *IF* management *can* even come to their senses and *think* of firing the "dead weight"...

Probably the two security guards and escort off the premises is indicated.

We had a situation where a probie just wasn't "getting" it. All efforts were made to "rehabilitate" him, including trying to get him placed in a lesser technical position.

It all failed.

We were all herded out of the area while he cleared his stuff out.

It hurt all of us because he was a nice guy... But, we were all having to do his work load...

What mixed feelings...

Mike Sr.
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I've been in Number 1...
Kromaethius 10th Nov 2008
I've been with a company that did it's layoffs just like in outline 1. It sucked. I made it through the rounds, there were several of them and by the time the last layoff was over and seeing many of my friends go, I decided that it was time for me to go. I was wore out of the cuts and heartbreaks.

The company really showed its true colors when they hired the corperate management to come in and ruin the entire operation. Sure, in the beginning round, they got rid of some people that needed to go.

Round two, three and four was cutting services, and "Your services are no longer needed..." I've seen people who's been with them for 7 and 8 years and just coldly and publically let go.

By round six, the final round, I was completely frazzled and I then turned to my boss and let him know that I didn't sign on for any of this -- We both quit a day apart after I was promoted of all things.
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Star date May 14, 2004
MGP2 Updated - 10th Nov 2008
I'm called into HR at my employer of 16 years and told my job has been eliminated. This is my "two week notification period", I'm told. However, I've been given 44 weeks of "Supplemental Unemployment Benefits". What are those, you ask? Well, it's a special kind of severance that's paid thru a trust. It's not subject to Social Security or Medicare taxes. Effectively, I'll be collecting 107% of my normal pay for not getting out of bed. And it comes with another benefit. Because of the way the trust is structured (approved by the IRS), this money doesn't exist, at least as far as the state Unemployment Department is concerned. Yep, while I'm collecting 107% of my normal pay, I also get to collect my full $544 weekly unemployment check at the same time.
The funny part is, they had the biggest football-type of a manager walk me down to HR. They must have thought I was going to flip out or something (or maybe that's who did it with everyone). Anyway, at the end, the HR rep kind of coos to me "I know this is distressing, but you'll get thru it." I looked at her and said, "Susan, you just gave me the Summer, the Fall, and the Winter off with pay. I ain't THAT upset." And I really wasn't. Like I said, it was the middle of May. I enjoyed collecting about 177% of my pay for 6 months, and then 107% for another 5.

Edit: Another funny part. At the end of the meeting, the HR rep asks for my id card. I ask "won't I need it for the next two weeks?" She said, "Oh, the two week thing is just a formality. We don't expect you to work it. You'll be paid your full salary for these two weeks before your severance kicks in." Well, OK by me. wink
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Great
nizuse 10th Nov 2008
A joy to read. This is how it should be.
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The Sprint methods
Taz_z 11th Nov 2008
1) First thing in the morning, people are divided
into 2 groups. One group is shown the door and told
their belongings will be sent to them, the other group
stays.

2) One of your fifty emails in the morning is the
layoff.

3) Your security card won't get you in the door.

4) Right out of the blue, a couple of security people
come and show you the door without letting you take
your belongings. Your supervisor, who has not been
laid off, does not come too.
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The Cowards Way Out!
madrucke@... 11th Nov 2008
I have to say that #4 is the cowards way out...

What makes a supervisor so afraid of having to lay someone off? If he is not capable of facing the departing person he isn't *really* supervisory personnel!

Second, when the super doesn't show up there is no way a "mere" security person can tell what can go with the employee and what can't...

Try ushering *me* out the door without my personal belongings!

That's a sure way to get a *real* *visible* layoff experience for all to see...

Let em handcuff me... Abuse me for all to see!

Even more so if all my peers know I've done my job well...

(If this really is the Sprint "way"... They won't ever get my bsuiness!)

Mike Sr.
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I live in the city of Sprint's corp headquarters,
which by the way, has relatively poor Sprint cell
coverage. Sprint generally violates all 7 of Deb's
lessons. Have you noticed how many customers Sprint
has bled over the past year and remember some of their
customer service policies, like working to get rid of
roamers and people who made too many service
calls
? They abuse their customers as bad as their
employees. Have you heard about seeing how a company
treats their employees before doing business with
them? I don't have to make this up, it's documented
in news articles and blogs everywhere.
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RE: Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?
Mt#tAxdtI7Rir Updated - 11th Nov 2008
There is no universally-acceptable method. When terminations occur, people who have the power to decide choose to preserve themselves at the expense of those without such power. While there are indeed some unavoidable circumstances, it's far more likely that poor planning, execution, and risk management left no choice but such a draconian response.

Here's how one company I worked for did it:

1) The night before, a manager calls the supervisors who will do the firing and says the decisions have been made.

2) An HR representative runs around the building delivering bundles of manila envelopes to supervisors who have staff to fire that day. Termination time is usually around 10AM.

3) Terminated employees must give the supervisor their company credit card, access card, and immediately stop using the company computer. They can stay the day or go home as they see fit.

4) Employees who are not terminated attend an "All-Hands" meeting and are told the layoff is behind us; now we can succeed; it's terrible - we hate doing it, but to save the body the limb had to be amputated.

There is one round, usually one or less per triggering event (downturn, acquisition, competitive situation). Severance has usually been made available. Preserving productivity of the people remaining is the focus. It's pretty much what was recommended but it tore down morale something fierce anyway.
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I came back from a working with an out of town client and had an urgent message waiting from HR. They said come down to their office. They gave me the news and told me to pack up my things. So I got them and put them in my car. On the way back to HR I ran into my manager and asked her what they were going to do with my client's work. She turned pale; she didn't know about the lay off. She told me to go to my desk and wait. I got a call from the CEO saying it was a mistake.

I kept my stuff in my car anyway. Two more rounds later they eliminated the whole group - even though we were the only group making money.

That's why they called it the dot com bust.
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Getting a Pink Slip
fatman65535 12th Nov 2008
Quote:On the way back to HR I ran into my manager and asked her what they were going to do with my client's work. She turned pale; she didn't know about the lay off.

If it were me, I would have kept on walking and not say one word. Let those geniuses learn about the "Law of Unintended Consequences".
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I have to agree these are all pretty good ideas...

Consider this for #4 Instead of continuously raising actual salaries give bonuses. Then if there is a down turn the bonuses can be shorted not the personel.

Keep your people brutally informed if the projections indicate the bonus is likely to be impacted so they can plan.

Jobs are scarce...

I really likes #5... The stats indicate that very few people have adequate savings to whether a layoff... This is a Humane Gesture that can only be appreciated. Especially when coupled with #3

And, when an upturn comes this "Gesture" may make the people you'd like to bring back actually come back...

I disagree with #6... Let them go early enough to get their stuff together and say their goodbyes...

Any layoff is going to cause a disruption anyway. Plan for it and let it happen Gracefully.

With HR hoarding most contact information, by law, a sudden separation separates without the ability for continuing contact.

Can be good for the company if it's layoff is "unfair". But, never good for the employees.

Mike Sr.
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Once you KNOW, it is the end of the day.
You find out and you go home.

The idea is - don't tell them at 0800 and keep them cooling their heels until 1700.

I think this applies only to those "sudden" layoffs. There is nothing wrong with getting a few weeks notice and a chance to wrap things up - just like most people changing jobs voluntarily don't just tell their employers "c ya!"
I have been laid off twice and both times, it was handled hideously.

Once, in the 70s, I was working for a large and famous media company in NYC. We all knew that layoffs were going to take place. I found out through "the secretarial underground" that I was on the layoff list. I went to my boss with whom I had a good relationship and asked her flat out. She did not know and went to the department head who just played dumb. I, however, knew this was fishy and lined up another job. When the pink slip came (and everyone knew when they were coming), that department head simply stayed home and couldn't show her face. However, I was in better shape than the others who had been laid off because I had found out and therefore took action.

The point of this story is to show that some resource are HUMAN and should be treated as such. Quit sneaking around and tell the bleeping truth and far fewer people will get hurt.
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Then there is the MCI/Worldcomm method of layoffs...back during the whole 56 billion dollar fiasco that was MCI/Worldcomm, they went through about a dozen rounds of layoffs, eventually reducing head count from a high of 170,000 people to just around 36,000.
The first layoff, involved several dozen County Sheriffs in full riot gear standing guard at all entrances. Building security was not letting anyone in the building untill their manager could verify their employment. Unfortunatly, those with managers who worked on the opposite coast (California) had to wait 3 hours for their bosses to get into the office so that the guard could call the official desk phone of the manager (home or cell phones didn't count). Fortunatly, only one person was shot during this incident.
Subsequent layoffs weren't any better. HR not realizing that some people left the campus for lunch, turned off the people getting laid off later on that day's badges. So they went to lunch unaware that they were getting laid off, only to return to the campus to find that their badges would no longer let them into the building. They were not allowed in and were not allowed to collect their belongings. Only their manager, accompanied with an HR rep could go to their desk, collect their jacket and personal belongings and deliver them to the front desk...oh, and while their badges wouldn't let them in the building, for some reason, it did let them into the gated parking garage area...
And it didn't get any better. Another layoff, IT was tipped off when HR placed a request for several dozen personal laser printers (so they can print out the layoff documents without having to use networked printers...security you know) Unfortunatly, the IT department was outsourced to EDS. This information made it to F*CKED COMPANY web blog and very few employees showed up the day of the layoff.
But I think that the ultimate layoff I have ever seen was from my wife's company.
She gets handed a Fed Ex envelope to distribute the contents to the various bosses in the office, one of the envelopes is for her and it's a severance check. She takes her check, purse and jacket and just leaves.
Nobody calls her, nobody emails her, nothing. In fact, her boss even arrives from California the next day (he was delayed and was supposed to arrive that same day as the checks) and never contacts her or anything...She was never told to her face that she was indeed laid off, just a check with the word "Severance" in the memo field...
And is it a wonder with how people are treated we read in the news the next day how an ex-employee returned to the office and shot the place up? Companies have no regard for the people they employ.
Ed
web/gadget guru
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I work for a company that mixes and matches various methods described above.

The first few years (when there was only 20 or so of us) the CFO liked to hand out the checks himself. If things were getting tight he'd say: "Better cash it quick, this might be the last one you see!". And then the boss would call an "all hands on deck" and let everyone know that things were tight and there might be layoffs.

Finally when there were layoffs he would go to the center of production stand there look around for a bit with his hands on his hips then walk over to the emplotee's work station and escort the employee to his (the boss') office. We slowly went from approx 80 people to 7 in groups of 5 people ata at ime over 3 mos.

It got so that when ever the boss walked out onto the production floor people would watch him out of the corner of thier eyes and hunch their shoulders like they were waiting to get shot!
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Become a consultant and ...
mikifinaz1@... 11th Nov 2008
I always arrived with everything I needed in a case I kept by the door. No pictures, no toys, nothing was left at the worksite. Each day I would pack the case and leave. They are not your friends, they are your boss; be polite do your work and be ready to go at a minute's notice.

As a matter of fact at one job I had left case and all at the end of my contract. My boss was shocked the next day when he called me asking where I was. I told him my contract was over (he should have read the contract he signed) and I was now working elsewhere. He wanted me to come back, I told him that if that was so he should have prepared for that before I had turned in my final report and hired out. He knew I was a consultant. Business is business.

People who have issues want to make employers and fellow employees "family" etc. They need to work on their issues not project their needs on everyone else and the workplace.
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Why bother?
csaager 11th Nov 2008
1. Mail all you want to retain via FedEx or whatever is the most reliable in your area an envelope to delivered Monday 6am
2. Hire some student to be at your offices by Monday 6am.
3. Set up a new office elsewhere and move all stuff of group 1 there by Sunday night.
4. Post the new name of the company to the door of the new office space - make sure that the spelling matches the name on the contract in the envelope which contains
a) The unaltered contract, just with the new employer name and
i)a guarantee that all gained benefits are retained
ii)5% solidarity bonus (if possible in cash)
b)keys, access cards, etc. for the new office building
5. The student pink-slips. If possible arrange for a becoming actor/actrice; they'll be able to improvise some words less pathetic then those you'd stutter
6. Business continues as normal

Of Course this doesn't work if you really producing something with machines and so. But let's face it: If you will start lowering your production to save costs you didn't understand this game of capitalism, go fire yourself.

PS: I am not sure if I am joking or not
Reminds me of my first job. I had a contract for six months and everyone wanted me to stay. HR failed to produce a new contract and I started to feel silly to ask for it over and over.

To make a long story short, I signed with another company, arranged with my boss to take vacation I already earned and on the 30th of June I brought some cake and so to celebrate my farewell. The HR representative joined us and asked what this is about - then she hurried back in her office to look for the contract...

I never had any regrets that I didn't change my mind. Three months later the company got bought by a big enterprise and almost everyone got fired (I have no information if this also applied to HR)
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RE: Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?
Macs4EaseOfUse Updated - 11th Nov 2008
I worked in IT for a major brokerage firm that now has been bought out by a bank based in North Carolina (couldn't have happened to a "nicer" bunch of jerks). The way I was laid off was this: First, they sent a relatively new colleague to ask me a really stupid question about the systems which I had already explained to him earlier as a means of distracting me. While I was pondering why he was asking me this question and how best to answer him politely, I noticed out of the corner of my eye that my workstation had shut down (it had not crashed, but actually was manually shut down). Just as I reached for my phone to talk to the systems administrator, it rang. It was the department head asking me to report to his office. When I saw the three (most people only rated one or two) security guards standing around, I already knew what was about to happen. The department head was enough of a dickwad to coyly ask me if I "would like to know what was going on." I coldly told him that since he was already well-known to be full of bovine excreta, why waste his voice and my ears?" He was quite taken aback and then told me I was laid off. I only smiled and said, "Okay. I've been waiting for the other shoe to fall." and left it at that without further explaining myself. When he asked if I'd like to know what my severance terms were, I said that I didn't but I was sure my "legal team would" (and this was just after the OJ Simpson trial). I walked back to my office and collected my briefcase and jacket and walked out, escorted by the security guards who remarked that I was pretty calm and that it was odd that my boss had explicitly requested three security guards instead of the usual one or two because he thought I would get physically violent. I just rolled my eyes at him and he grinned and remarked that lots of managers get paranoid when they had to lay people off. The funny thing was that as soon as I left the building, I got called by the systems administrator because the department head had rushed into his office and insisted that he shut down and search all the systems (multiple servers and over twenty workstations) for a logic bomb because I had left the building "too calmly and didn't rant and rave like all the other employees he had laid off nor threatened his life." Since doing such things (including leaving a logic bomb) was unethical, unprofessional and also illegal, it had not even occurred to me to do such thing. Meanwhile, the system administrator implored me to tell him "as a favor" where I had hidden them (which, since they didn't exist, I couldn't tell him). He spent the rest of Christmas week into the New Year (that was when they laid us all off--nice, huh?) looking for a nonexistent threat just because I had behaved professionally and not gone nutso. The reason I was "just waiting for the other shoe to fall" was that my immediate supervisor had done something stupid three months ago and tried to get me fired by setting up an impossible task for me to perform and getting multiple outside consultants to certify I was incompetent for not being able to carry out the task. Unfortunately for him, all of them agreed with me that the task was impossible and the last one, angered by my supervisors bogus threats, wrote a formal report stating that my supervisor was asking for something impossible and that no one could possibly succeed, not even them, and sent it to my supervisor, the department head and also copying me in the process. I had immediately sent this report to my lawyers and told them that "soon, we'll need this in a suitable lawsuit." Sure enough, that day arrived and I unleashed my legal pit bulls that very afternoon of my layoff. As a result, my severance went from a paltry two weeks to five months after I had declined their offer of immediate re-employment at my former salary and former position (who would want to work in a situation where one was always on the lookout for a knife in the back?). And, for karmic revenge, the entire department was shunted two weeks later in the following January from the profit-making part of the operation to systems (considered a cost division) and all their bonuses got savagely slashed after a year of overtime that would make a sweatshop look like Club Med. Then to top it off, the department head was removed from managing the department to managing one person: himself. And when he still didn't get the hint, he was removed from his corner office with windows and relocated to an windowless cubicle. He then got the hint. Finally, to top it off, I met his former manager at another firm when I became a consultant, who asked "how that guy could've become a manager when he couldn't find his ass with both hands when he used to work for me?" I was literally ROTFLMAO at that point to his former manager's bemusement (I hadn't related how I had been laid off, just where I had worked formerly and it was just a response to a "Did you know this guy when you were over there?" question and I had answered in the affirmative.)
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First;You REALLY don't become a manager unless you have been blooded by actually laying off or firing someone.

I have been on both sides of the desk, I have also had the satisfaction of being able to down tools and walk off the job; working back to back jobs at AMD and Data General let me do that and when the stupidvisor at AMD tried his power trip, I was ready to play his games..The outcome was talked about for WEEKS...
The best thing to do is be aware it is going to happen; the situations where people go POSTAL is when they get a surprise...then the company gets a surprise too.

When the Test Division of Fairchild had layoffs, Slumberger just had a hatchet man go thru the cubicles and say "You, you, you and you....( I was taking clases & witnes the whole thing ). You could literally smell the FEAR in the air that morning.

The times that I did get surprised, the company got surprised ( bought and downsized or Chapter 7 bankruptcy ) soon after.

Moral of the story: Be Prepared!! The Corporation has no soul....and no morals....
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Worst way I ever saw.
paron 21st Nov 2008
Friday afternoon, they pushed dumpsters into the office and told everyone to empty their desks into them.

Metamessage: "OK, all that stuff you neglected your families on nights and weekends to get done? It's worthless; pitch it."

They had people in therapy for months.
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RE: Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?
vinhthuy.nguyen@... 25th Nov 2008
My case, my boss and the HR lady called me to her room and first thing they said : I decide today is your last day here. Well, quick and painful. However, the generously package for layoff worker and a nice recommendation letter made it not too bad to accept it.
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RE: Is there a better way to be handed a pink slip?
vinhthuy.nguyen@... 25th Nov 2008
My case, my boss and the HR lady called me to her room and first thing they said : I decide today is your last day here. Well, quick and painful. However, the generously package for layoffed worker and a nice recommendation letter made it not too bad to accept it.
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I worked for a company where my manager asked my group to 'go into the conference room'. The manager walked into the conference room and informed us that anyone in our group that was not in the conference room was laid off. While we sat there, security brought up boxes and escorted the unlucky ones out the building.

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