Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

Summary: Apple and Nokia started the lawsuit dance a couple of years ago and in the case of patents it looks like Nokia is getting Apple to pay them for their technologies.

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Back in late 2009 Apple countersued Nokia after Nokia filed suit against Apple for using 10 wireless technologies they patented without compensation. Many companies patent technologies from Nokia since Nokia was one of the leaders in wireless innovation and was around before many of the existing companies in the wireless market. It looks like Nokia's claims were legitimate and unlike other companies Apple was just trying to avoid paying Nokia what they were due as Nokia announced they entered into patent license agreement with Apple.

This agreement will result in settlement of all patent litigation between the two companies. Apple will may a one time payment with future royalties to Nokia for the terms of the confidential agreement. Nokia has invested EUR 43 billion in R&D and has over 10,000 patents. This outcome should have a positive impact on Nokia's financials later in 2011.

Topics: Nokia, Apple, Legal, Mobility, Wi-Fi

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  • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

    What?? Apple did not invent mobile telephony??? oooops.

    BTW, had Apple won the lawsuit, the article would have been 10 times longer spanning 4 pages explaining how Apple is pioneer in innovation. That's ZDNET.
    Raju Das
    • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

      @Raju Das Amen Brother!
      Jediguardian
      • Apple negotiated with Nokia before trial started, but the latter asked ...

        @Jediguardian: ... unbelievably high fees, which other licensees obviously do not pay. It was Nokia's way for "competition". So Apple did not pay the fees at all and let it go through court. Since such court can go forever and Nokia needs as much money as possible, <b>Apple now got fair fees value, what was their goal from very beginning.</b>
        DDERSSS
    • Only near-sighted Apple haters claim...

      @Raju Das
      that others claim Apple invented telephony. When you look at the huge profit shift in the industry over the last 4 years, however, even the most ardent Apple hater can't deny Apple's impact on the industry world wide. From China to Europe to the US to Japan, iOS is going gang busters.

      This settlement is a good thing and it will be interesting to see what the values are when the financial reports hit. My guess is it is in hundreds of millions to a billion or so as well full access to Apple's portfolio.

      Or Apple got a better deal because Nokia was hungrier now than they were 4 years ago.
      Bruizer
      • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

        @Bruizer
        Actually Gangbusters in the USA.. not very much in the EU or Asia. Android has wiped the floor with Apple generally in those places.

        @DeRSSS ... "unbelievably high fees, which other licensees obviously do not pay... Apple now got fair fees value, what was their goal from very beginning. "

        They were unbelievably high? So if something costs too much, its better to steal it?!?! And as for courts, Apple has used its lawyers to drag its loosing court casings out to win against smaller companies that simply went bankrut with licence fees.
        JABBER_WOLF
    • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

      @Raju Das Not to mention the hundreds of fanboy posts hailing the emperor for having taught the minion a lesson.
      mm71
      • too funny

        @mm71
        oh how i love these! the number of posts that trash apple fans probably outnumber actual posts by apple fans by 100 to 1.
        the number of post that bash apple fans before apple fans even appear are even funnier.

        so, what does that make you people?
        sportmac
      • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

        @mm71

        Good god Apple fans are such hypocrits. And who are fanbois of Nokia?! Whoever thinks Apple has to practice the same business standards as everyone else is a fanboi?! So be it, everyone else in the world must be one.
        JABBER_WOLF
  • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

    So many writers are spinning this as a win for Nokia. Apple originally refused to pay Nokia for their patents because Nokia wanted to charge Apple significantly more than they were charging other licensees. Apple objected and refused to pay. The fact that Apple has suddenly agreed to pay probably indicates that Nokia capitulated on their demands and agreed to charge Apple a fair price.
    Andre Richards
    • You will probably get flag as a troll or fanboy, but you are 100% right

      @Andre Richards But why confuse people with facts.
      wackoae
      • Finally someone said it; why Matthew and other journalist can never provide

        @wackoae: ... proper context for such cases?
        DDERSSS
    • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

      @Andre Richards

      You are repeating Apple's claim, not a fact. There's no evidence that anybody has seen that Apple's licensing charges were significantly more than others.

      The fact that Apple has suddenly agreed to pay and drop their countersuit most probably indicates that they didn't have a case to begin with.
      rtk
      • so...

        @rtk you claim he's not using facts. then you use a fact and finish with your own little take on it base on... probably? it probably indicates they didn't have a case?
        wow. there's some solid "evidence" for you.
        sportmac
      • Did Apple back the wrong horse?

        @rtk ... Apple has been paying out $50 in royalties per unit to InterDigital, Qualcomm and Tessera. After Qualcomm sued Nokia and lost, Nokia went after Apple.

        Qualcomm has lost several lawsuits defending thier IP, which makes me wonder did Apple back the wrong horse?
        kyron.gustafson@...
      • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

        @sportmac

        YEah THAT must be it.
        Or Apple was in obvious violation and decided it couldnt lawyer up against a "small" company like Nokia like it has against other companies to crush them.

        Oh and the courts do not allow a company to charge 1 company higher fees than another. Ooops, is that solid enough for you?!

        Or sportmac, would you like to blatantly LIE ( you would call it reasonable speculation of course) about something else?!
        JABBER_WOLF
      • There is no other way to explain why would Apple decline payments from very

        @rtk: ... beginning.

        The content of patents is obvious, so Apple knew that it has to pay, however declined the crazy anticompetitive demands Nokia made initially.

        And now the only reason why Apple agreed to out of court settlement is because Nokia finally made fair value fees.
        DDERSSS
      • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

        @rtk [b]The fact that Apple has suddenly agreed to pay and drop their countersuit most probably indicates that they didn't have a case to begin with.[/b]

        OR it indicates that Nokia needed the money badly as their market share is dropping and decided that playing fairly with Apple was the way to go. This settlement gave Nokia the cash infusion it needed.

        @JABBER_WOLF [b]Oh and the courts do not allow a company to charge 1 company higher fees than another. Ooops, is that solid enough for you?![/b]

        When did the courts get involved with how much a company charges to license a product? Oh wait, not until another company brings a lawsuit or in this case the company trying to inflate the price of a license brings the party unwilling to pay an inflated price to court.

        So JABBER_WOLF what other topic would you like to spread FUD and lies (or would you rather refer to it as "reasonable speculation") about?
        athynz
      • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

        @athynz<br><br>"OR it indicates that Nokia needed the money badly as their market share is dropping and decided that playing fairly with Apple was the way to go. This settlement gave Nokia the cash infusion it needed."<br><br>Okaaay.... that might explain why Nokia would agree to take Apple's money, but it surely doesn't explain why Apple dropped their countersuit.<br><br>Those are some mighty thin straws you and DeRSSS are grasping at.
        rtk
    • More likely the time was fast approaching for Apple

      @Andre Richards

      To either pay up or face the music.

      I love Apple's stuff and the user experience they create.

      Otherwise, the core of the Apple is rotten. I couldn't see Steve Jobs dedicating his life to finding causes to invest his money in (like malaria vaccines and the like) other than Apple's stock valuation.

      If Steve Jobs had the control Bill Gates had over the personal computing world, it would be a much darker place.
      dcristof
  • RE: Apple agrees to pay Nokia patent license fees, lawsuits dropped

    This is the first step in restoring order in the Smart phone market, the new kids in smart phone town wearing nappies (read Apple, Google) copying and stealing other companies ideas and IP should be disciplined with an Iron hand. Companies like Nokia had spend ten of billions and decades of research to reach where they are now. Same case for Sun on Java. Google copying/stealing stuff and in the disguise of open source taking shortcuts to undermine other companies products need to dealt with the firm hand of law. Running around for patents after a product is successfull (Read Google bidding for Nortel patents) is an example of their IP bankruptsy.
    owlnet