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UPDATE: Inflammatory report states Verizon shifts tax bill to the 99 percent, sees -2.9 percent tax rate

By | November 15, 2011, 9:41am PST

Summary: At a time when the job market is tough and the US economy is struggling, we see organizations clamoring for some kind of action against those that know how to succeed.

I received multiple emails this morning linking to a new report (PDF link) from the Citizens for Tax Justice and Good Jobs First organizations that shows Verizon paid an effective tax rate of -2.9 percent between 2008 and 2010. Our tax system needs a major overhaul when corporations can play the loophole and subsidy game to avoid helping contribute to our society. Verizon is the most expensive wireless carrier in the U.S. and with Occupy Wall Street (and other areas) protesters and events going on this is not good news for Verizon.

We haven’t yet seen an official response to this report from Verizon, but the report is quite detailed and used publicly available financial data to report its findings.

Verizon doesn’t use its tax avoidance gains to keep up its copper network or extend its fiber optic technology to cities like Boston, Baltimore, Buffalo or other communities or create quality jobs. It isn’t negotiating a fair contract with the workers who have made this company so successful but instead is demanding nearly $1 billion in givebacks and making sure that its top executives stay in the top 1 percent of Americans. That’s why we say ‘the 99 percent’ are picking up Verizon’s tax tab,” Collins said.

It appears that the real problem for Verizon is that they are not necessarily using these tax savings to help customers afford service or provide additional benefits for employees. While the report is pretty clear Verizon is playing the tax game to the best of its abilities, the US government needs to change the system too so that these types of games cannot take place.

I worked hard growing up with a single mom and currently work two jobs to support my family and succeed so I don’t appreciate when games like this are played at my expense. I pay a fair share of taxes and expect all in the U.S. to do so as well. I am quite pleased with my new iPhone 4S on Verizon and am not going to drop their service due to this report, but it does cross my mind that this is a strategy I may follow through with in the future.

I thought the reported seemed a bit one-sided in it’s wording and as you can see with the official Verizon statement this report is a politically motivated one that really seems to have little value. I think there was a time for unions in the past, but see very little value in them in today’s modern society where employers cannot take advantage of the employees anymore.

The report from yesterday is a rehash of the same inaccurate and politically motivated statements that union-orchestrated front groups like the CTJ have been making for some time. The fact is, Verizon fully complies with all tax laws and pays its fair share of taxes. As stated in our 10Ks, Verizon has paid more than $7.5 billion over the past five years in state and federal income taxes alone. This amount does not include other taxes, such as property taxes, taxes on gross receipts, payroll taxes and right-of-way fees.

By way of background, CTJ has a history of mixing incorrect facts with a political agenda when describing Verizon’s taxes. Previous reports have been used to support allegations by the CWA, whose members went out on strike against Verizon in August. The CWA’s president is on the board of the CTJ. In fact, 8 of the CTJ’s 13 board members are executives in national unions.

Two weeks ago, many of these same inaccuracies appeared in a another CTJ/CWA report about Verizon tax payments over the past three years. We noted then, as I reiterate today, that Verizon paid out $1.79 billion in taxes over 2008-2010, and reported earnings of $5.25 billion over this same period. In addition, Verizon has annually invested $16.5 billion in technology infrastructure. This investment has created and sustained jobs, so U.S. economic development policy allows for the payment of some taxes to be deferred. The CTJ treats deferred taxes as non-existent, it does not account for the $1.79 billion in taxes Verizon paid out over the past three years despite deferrals, and it incorrectly calculates earnings for Verizon to include income belonging to Vodafone, Verizon’s partner in Verizon Wireless.

I’m glad that Verizon responded with an official statement, but I do regret giving the CTJ unnecessary attention it doesn’t deserve.

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If it was a real concern, the politicos would close the holes. As soon as they do that the corps start talking off-shoring. Fun and games, fun and games...
@happyharry_z

If it was a real concern to whom? And so now the argument isn't "corporate taxes are too high, so American companies offshore" now we've moved on to "if you want our company to operate in the U.S. your taxpayers have to subsidize our operating costs?"

What a joke!
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Take your service elsewhere and Not Verizon. This will cut into their profits and they will get the message.

With the money they have and all the lobbying, they are getting away with murder.

No company should be allowed to get away without paying at least 20% in taxes.
@happyharry_z - Corporations don't threaten offshoring anymore, it's already done. Congress didn't even pretend to put up a fight over that. All the megacorps have to do now is pay money (hard dollars) to the politicians to get what they want. They call it campaign contributions, but it all goes to the same place.
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@happyharry_z Many of the politicians have vested interests in the big companies. The loopholes were designed to benefit their friends.

It's clear the tax laws benefit the bankers. Why else would you be able to deduct mortgage interest?

So for the real source of the problem, look no further than Washington DC.
Rich people spend their money.
@baggins_z Way to demonstrate your ignorance of what rich people do. Overwhelming data shows they don't spend money, they hoard it. When they do spend money they don???t spend much of it here. They spend most if it abroad.
@baggins_z - Rich people don't spend money, that's how they stay rich. Unlike the "family of four" that spends %109 percent of their earnings each year, the rich spend only a few percent of their income in any given year. Most of the money actually works like a perpetual motion machine, earning even more income for the person without having to lift a finger. And all that income is taxed at a lower rate than what you or I pay.

It's a sweet deal if you can get it.
Support the fair tax. But don't whine about the verizon workers have contracts that are plenty fair. And dont whine about the 99% because 47% percent of them are paying nothing, which is less than their fair share.
@Johnny Vegas


The 47% pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, tolls, DMV registration taxes, property taxes etc, etc, etc. They pay plenty of taxes (more as a percentage of income than the richest Americans). What they don't pay is income taxes, and the reason they don't is because they make a pathetically small amount of money. In fact, they make so little money that RONALD REAGAN, patron saint of the Teabaggers pushed through a major increase in the earned income tax credit to encourage and promote employment of people who make too little money in income to pay Federal taxes.
To create jobs.

Its been five years.

I ask these corporations.. where are the jobs?

No jobs.. no tax break simple.

Five years no jobs.. more profits. They should pay 50% in taxes so others can create jobs.

And I have conservative view. Just that this period in time. If jobs aren't created, the country will take a hit. We can't keep on making it worse. Ford was smart when he created more jobs and gave more money to his employees, so that they could actually purchase a Model T. Thats how the economy grows. It does not grow on tax breaks.
I ask these corporations.. where are the jobs?

They had their chance. They were phony promises outsourced to the lowest bidder overseas. That's why they shouldn't be believed and the taxes need to be raised again. Might as well get something off them while you still can.
@Johnny Vegas Because those 47% are below the poverty line dumb@ass.
@Johnny Vegas - Not much to pay tax on when you have no job and no income. This statistic is so over-used it's pathetic. There's a different statistic that nobody mentions: How much of the GDP is really taxed, and where is it the thinnest? The unsurprising answer is that 90%+ of personal income is taxed. Less than 50% of corporate income is taxed. And the lowest taxes on income are paid by the rich, because of the low capital gains rate.
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Money out <= Money In
Robert Hahn 15th Nov
Corporations are not buckets. They are pipes. Those who think they can tap the pipe without requiring that more be put into the pipe are deluding themselves. There is only one way that money gets into the Verizon pipe: from their customers. Anyone who tells you that he knows how to tax money away from Verizon (or any company, for that matter) without the customers ultimately paying it is a liar. There is no other place for the money to come from.
@Robert Hahn - You are confused, but I will try to explain: the taxes being mentioned are on corporate profits, not revenues. The taxes not being paid end up going into the execs' pockets as bonuses, not as investments in the company, or lower prices to the customers. It doesn't even make it back to the shareholders if I have read the Verizon 10-K report correctly; the shareholders are not getting any great bargains for their holdings.
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Bonuses are another form of income, and taxes are levied on all forms of income. So, if a corporation is using the taxes due to pay bonuses, the taxes are eventually collected from the added income of those executives.

Also, you need to start understanding that, corporations don't pay taxes, even if they do show corporate taxes on their yearly statements.

Guess who ends up paying those taxes that you would wish to have collected? And, congresspeople already understand that part about corporations not paying the taxes, but, they're okay with that. Also, you need to be okay with that, because, the more taxes a corporation has to pay, the fewer dollars there will be for expansion and for jobs creation. In fact, the lower the taxes paid by corporations, the more taxes that are collected by government. It's counter-intuitive, but, it's something that no liberal will ever understand or care to understand.
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Political accounting?
Robert Hahn 15th Nov
Money is fungible. Therefore, absolutely nothing you said there rises above the level of political claptrap.
@terry flores
If that is the case, then the Execs will pay a hefty INCOME tax on those bonuses, in fact, most likely at a HIGHER rate than VZ would pay.
@Robert Hahn That's because we have become a culture of greed. Those customers you speak of paid for the roads and bridges the corporations use to ship their goods. They paid for the education that prepared the workforce the corporations employ and they paid for the entire infrastructure that provides power and utilities to their place of business. It is a ridiculous position to believe that corporations deserve to be subsidized by their consumers as a "privilege" of doing business here. Instead of contributing back to the very system that allowed them to become successful, they suck every drop of profit out of the consumer and deliver it their beloved shareholders without any care for sustainability. This plunder mentality needs to change quickly or the entire system will ultimately collapse. No consumers = No profits. End of game.
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No Ferengi need apply
Robert Hahn 15th Nov
No profits = no jobs. End of ignorant liberal politics.
because, you're completely clueless about how things work.

Look, corporations shouldn't be subsidized, but, they also shouldn't be taxed. If corporate taxes were eliminated, the country would see a lot of corporations pulling back a lot of their foreign operations and would be bringing back to the country many millions of jobs. Jobs is what the country needs, and with more jobs, the government would also see a huge increase in tax revenues.

The shareholders or investment class, need to see a return for their investments, otherwise, the country might as well become a third world nation, with massive poverty and massive unemployment.

No worthwhile profits = no investment class = no economy. End of game.
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Wasn't just income taxes
spdragoo@... 16th Nov
@adornoe

Income taxes are such a small part of the picture there. Or have you forgotten how many manufacturers moved their factories to other nations where they could pay less than pennies per hour for every dollar they had to pay a US worker? Or how by moving factories to Third World nations they could avoid compliance with EPA regulations that mandated necessary but expensive equipment, or specified how clean they had to leave the local water table & had to make sure their toxic spills & sites were cleaned up? Top that off with a corporate & investment culture that harped on maximum short-range profits & EPS -- to the detriment of long-term growth and survival of the company -- & that's why the companies moved so much overseas.
bonuses. That's what I was addressing.

Now, if you want to divert into other topics, fine by me.

Now, when it comes to the EPA and the massive number of regulations, which companies have to comply with, and which add massive costs to operations, then, of course, the companies will be forced to move to more business-friendly environments. That's a no-brainer.

The truth of the matter is that, regulations is a means towards an end, and the end for the democrats is bigger government and more control by government over people's lives, and, most especially for democrats, they get to please the environmental wacko voters and keep them firmly under their grasp.

Nobody will deny that having clean air and clean water and a clean environment is a necessity, but, regulations have gotten out of hand and a big burden to the economy and to people in general. Besides making the cost of doing business a lot higher, the cost to consumers has also gotten a lot higher, because, the cost of those regulations are always passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices on the goods and services that corporations produce. The problem with the higher prices, to consumers and businesses is that, when products and services stop begin competitive against the same products produced overseas, then businesses have to go hunting for a better business environment and cheaper labor.

The end result may have been good for democratic party leaders/politicians, but the end result has been a struggling economy and a struggling country.

BTW, profits is what creates a strong economy, and the wealth motive is what drives people to create businesses or to invest in them. Without those profits, and without the wealth, you wouldn't even have the internet or the computer with which you're writing your comments.

It's best to think about repercussions that come with every event, and those repercussions are being felt right now, with the stinking economy, and it's going to get a lot worse.
intrusion into our daily lives
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@adornoe@... doesn't mind toxic waste dumps...
ScorpioBlue Updated - 16th Nov
...as long as he doesn't have near one himself. That's ok for the little people other than himself...

Right, teabagger?

Now, when it comes to the EPA and the massive number of regulations, which companies have to comply with, and which add massive costs to operations, then, of course, the companies will be forced to move to more business-friendly environments. That's a no-brainer.

Yeah, it's a "no-brainer" choking on our own pollution and waste and letting people die as a result of that. As long as @adornoe@...'s sacred trickle-down teabag of greed profit is preserved, that's all that matters.

Never mind the Superfunds
Never mind the Love Canals
Never mind the Cancer Alleys
Never mind the leaded air we breathe

If you gotta die from it just so some fat pigs can enjoy unfettered $$$ splendor, then so be it.

Isn't that right you senile old teabag? Speak. Speak.
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Is that why you can't think beyond just trying to be a nuisance?

A real toxic waste would be more tolerable and a lot more useful than the waste that you are.

Try to get a life, and do try to become a contributing member to this site and to society in general.

Now, go ride your tricycle into traffic. And, try not to pollute the roads with your toxic waste.
Mmmm.

More Class Warfare talk.

Anyone for trying Cuba?
@JTONLY
Why is it that anytime someone brings up the injustices of our tax system, class warfare is brought up?

I'm all for a flat tax. Any money made at the end of the day counts as income. If corporations are to be treated with the same rights as indviduals (BS) then they pay the same flat rate as us.

BTW it isn't class warfare, it is fact.
@JTONLY
It is not class war fare - it is just the way that businesses work. Either way, VZ customers will always pay the taxes (or employees). If taxes go up, rates or other "fees" will go up as well to cover them. If that doesn't work, salaries will be cut for the workforce (probably not execs), or more work will shift overseas.
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Doubt they're the only ones.
spdragoo@... 16th Nov
Anyone who thinks that Verizon is the only company that does this, or that has done it in the past, is deluding themselves.
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What a joke . . .
razorsyntax 18th Nov
This 99% nonsense is about as childish as it gets. A corporation (made up of thousands of your fellow Americans making responsible decisions everyday to help improve quality of the company- sans AT&T) has every right to pass the taxes on to the customers. If you're upset at having to pay the tax . . . get mad at the source- the government who levies the tax. We don't need to have all our money wasted. Time and time again we see right and left wing tax scandals, in which billions are blown on stupid ideas, and none of that money comes back . . . and yet we vote politicians in who continue to raise taxes, increase anti-competitive regulations, spend more (remember the debt ceiling crisis? We've surpassed that ceiling now. How is that good for us?) and then blame corporations and rich people for being successful. The Occupiers are missing the target . . . they should be Occupying Congress not the real job creators.
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