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Why aren't iPhones assembled in the U.S.? It's not due to labor costs

By | January 23, 2012, 3:30am PST

Summary: The iPhone is manufactured in China and in a very detailed and well-researched report the New York Times explains how it is not primarily due to the higher cost of labor in the U.S.

If you have an iPhone you have likely noted the small text on the back that states, “Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China.” In the past Apple made all their products in the USA, but that is no longer possible today due to several factors detailed in an excellent New York Times article published on Saturday.

The New York Times article is based on interviews with more than three dozen current and former Apple employees and contractors, economists, manufacturing experts, international trade specialists, technology analysts, academic researchers, employees at Apple’s suppliers, competitors and corporate partners, and government officials.

In typical government fashion, statements are made without understanding the real problem when they see companies actually making a healthy profit. Betsey Stevenson, the chief economist at the Labor Department until last September stated, “Companies once felt an obligation to support American workers, even when it wasn’t the best financial choice. That’s disappeared. Profits and efficiency have trumped generosity.” Seriously? Does the Labor Department really think making statements like this will help encourage companies to try to find ways to bring jobs back to the U.S.? Maybe the U.S. government should take a leadership role in encouraging more people to embrace engineering as a major or to increase the skills for manufacturing workers.

Your first thought may be that Apple can’t manufacture iPhones in the U.S. due to the labor costs, but as the article points out the major costs are associated with parts and supply chains. It was also interesting to read that China can provide engineers at a scale that the US simply cannot support in a timely fashion. About 8,700 engineers were needed for the iPhone and it took just 15 days to get those engineers in China while it would take as long as nine months for that to happen in the U.S.

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onelove@... 26th Apr
If they needed so many trained engineers in a short time, and they really couldn't find the people here. Maybe they should have looked harder? But now that the iPhone and all other most expensive computers on the market and they pay the workers peanuts and work them to suicide! But again that was than and with all the years that Apple has been the RICHEST Company and why in all this time of China still make the product. Instead, why didn't Apple train the billions of super engineers in America paying the right amount of pay that a skill like this would be be FAIR? Doesn't that sound better to train our people to be able to put the "MADE IN USA" stamp on the box and help BUILD America Not CHINA! It comes to the Rich for the Rich and will screw their customers for GREED!
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It is all about labor cost.
terry flores Updated - 23rd Jan
Even the "supply chain" issue is about labor cost, because the reason screens and circuit boards are (now) made in China is because of labor costs.

Most of the "engineers" mentioned actually graduate from 2-year technical schools. But the education issue is a real problem in the US, and a LOT of it is caused by the institutions themselves. Want to get an engineering degree in the US? Fine, except that 50% of the courses you take won't be on engineering or math topics. The US university system is based on an outdated model that caters to academic prejudices and the needs of wealthy families, not the working class. We should have five times more students in vocational or technical schools than we do today, and their diplomas should be as relevant and meaningful to hiring managers as any liberal arts degree from Yale.

Finally, if you truly look at the factory system in China, you will find an unsuspected parallel in America. Regimented life, barracks, forced calisthenics, 24-hour on call, obedience to rank, do these sound familiar? Sure they do, if you've ever been in the Army.

And never forget, the investment money that builds factories in anticipation of getting business, that all comes from the Chinese government. US companies are essentially selling out to the People's Republic when they accept that "largesse." And it's a Faustian bargain as companies like Whirlpool and GE have found out. Once the Chinese learned to design as well as manufacture, they have begun attacking and overcoming their erstwhile employers. Just like the Japanese did to Zenith, RCA, and Magnavox 40 years ago. History repeats itself.
@terry flores My thoughts as well after reading the article yesterday. Well said sir!
@fwelsh

I concur! Extremely well said Sir.
@terry flores

Well stated, Terry. I'd like to add to your comments: Our high school graduates are NOTHING like chinese college kids. Our kids have a 40-60% chance of needing remedial classes just to be ready to perform at a low college level. In some colleges, drop out rates are high (don't get me started on HS dropouts). When our 4 year Bachelor-degree engineer finally graduates, he simply isn't on the same level as they are after just High-School in many Taiwanese and Chinese schools. Never mind colleges. There is a real education gap, and it is only getting worse every year. The longer we squabble about whether dinosaurs are 100,000,000 years or 5,000 years old, the more we allow our kids to be classified as autistic and in need of more powerful sedatives, the more we push our kids into those "highly lucrative" (sarcastic) careers in the drum band, the tuba class, the clay-pot making class, and soccer/football teams, the more we will find ourselves with fewer and fewer jobs and more and more debt.

The math is shockingly simple. And yet, apparently, from our legislators on down to the cleaning lady at the end of the day ... none of us are doing our homework.
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oncall 23rd Jan
@rock06r

Look at some of the classes offered? Gay studies, art history, etc. I won't go on, it could fill this forum. Really?! Our taxpayer dollars are actually funding this, students are actually allowed to take on government guaranteed non-forgivable debt to study this garbage?

Now maybe I offend saying that, but if you want to learn subjects like the above go to a library, or bookstore, or use the internet and become the worlds expert in it on your own dollar and time. Just don't ask us to waste valuable resources and taxpayer dollars that could be used to teach subjects that we actually need to remain competitive.
@rock06r

Another way to look at it: if you are one in a million here in the US there are about 350 of you. If you are one in a million in China there are about 1350 of you.

Also, the Chinese are like we used to be in education. They realize that not everyone will go on to the next level and they only allow those who excel to go on to the next level; you aren't simply passed on. This allows for excellence in a lower level of education. Think about it this way: when you were in school, how many of your classmates got bad grades or acted up in class but were passed on anyway? You know, the ones who just caused trouble and were teachers' headaches. Now think about how much more you would have learned without those "students" in the class. That's what's going on in China and many other countries, but NOT in the US.
@rock06r

Having spent time in China, I can assure you that the average scholastic learning day of a Chinese school age teenager has no resemblance to our pre high school or teens. Therefore, don't be surprised to hear that a Chinese citizen can earn an engineering degree in as little as two years. Their course work was no less strenuous, they simply were better prepared. Additionally, those Chinese citizens who graduated from Stanford and MIT took that knowlage back to China to increase their knowlage trust. The Chinese are in classes longer by begining classes earlier and ending later, also they have fewer distractions and yes there are so many more of them competing for an education.
@rock06r -

"None of us is doing our homework"...

BTW: The reason why so many kids get labeled with whatever disease is so the drug industry can keep itself propped up - especially as more generic medications come in to supplant their brand name goods. That doesn't mean ASDs and other issues don't exist, and for some issues it takes TIME to get the whole picture. Today's shrinks would rather be quick to judge, dope kids up, and then tell them to exercise for 5 hours straight if they gain 30 pounds because the medication's most notorious side-effect kicked in...

I don't disagree with some of your other points, however... there are education gaps, but I propose we look at politicians and what they pimp, especially if they try to say how great we'll be as a "service economy"...
@oncall -

There is value in history.

For, not knowing it, one might accidentally repeat it.

And those who know it - and this is the worst part - might dare to resist history from repeating itself.

No, I'm not a history major (mine are in management, programming, and graphic design), but I wouldn't summarily throw out history majors, which reminds me:

What do we apply real value to? What is valued and encouraged?

Think about that for a while, and with luck you might find one of the ulterior meanings behind my little comments...
@benched42 - our school systems would rather spend time with the bullies and blame the victims.

That's all I've got to say. Apart from what I've said to others, since some factors are tangentially relevant... sorry to make people think outside the box today, I'm having a bad hair day...
@oncall

It's ironic how you're ripping on esoteric subjects like gay studies or art history, given that this is a post about Apple ... a company founded by a college dropout who famously stated that taking a course in calligraphy was one of the few useful things he learned at school. Some people assemble things ... that other people dreamed up.
@rock06r I'm tired of hearing all this bashing of our education system. We are all at fault for what's happened to our K-14 education system. And stop comparing it to China. The comparison is almost meaningless. They operate under an national authoritarian educational system. In the US, the push has been down to local control and that is also part of the issue because equity is not equal across the country. Rich and upper middle-class areas are doing just fine in their K-14 education. The problem is that most kids don't live in those areas. Those are the kids of the top 1-5%. This conservative movement about local control sounds great until you realize you have local control of schools in poor neighborhoods that have nothing and where no one wants to teach. How do you fix that?

Our higher-end university system is more robust because it's not solely about local solutions. Universities get funding from all over. There is no way a university could survive and thrive if all it's funding and students were local.

Lastly, the students in China don't grow up to be well rounded students or adults. The creativity and out of the box thinking is still something US students and workers do better than just about anyone else in the world. It's one of the main reasons that China sends their best and brightest to study at US universities.
@terry flores

Lets not forget lack of any real environmental controls or labor laws.
@neca_florida@...

*bingo*

There is more than one facet to the whole of the issue...
@terry flores -

Okay, that is making some sense. And even adds weight to some of Steve Jobs' old rants.

But Japan improved. The quality of products made in China is still, well, subpar...
@terry flores
Could not have said it better myself. One large point that is left out in the article is the cost of government regulation creating the iPhone. A couple of months before the original iPhone was to be released, Steve Jobs noticed a huge flaw. He was carrying it in his pocket when he noticed that the glass had scratched rubbing up against his keys. He immediately sought a solution and found one with Corning Glass. He went back to his engineers and told them to halt production and to start over with the new glass, which Corning could supply. The rest is history. The point to the story is that Jobs knew and most successful manufactures know; is that would have take at least another year of environmental impact studies, permits, and the rest of the red tape that our government could have thrown at them. I am not implying that we should pollute our environment; but in most cases we put the cart before the horse. The government will make you prove that what you are doing is compliant environmentally, labor law wise, and whatever other standards they find; instead of punishing Apple if they had actually broken the regulations. The other problem with these regulations are that they are just that regulations and not laws; so not only will they vary wildly from Presidential administration to another, but they are not set in stone laws and that have the backing of the people having been duly created by our elected representatives. You are also spot on about education system. Not only are specialized degrees drowned in unnecessary classes (my wife is finishing her degree in Early Childhood education and had to take a class in the History of World Music dating back to ancient civilizations and monks); but your point about vocational and trade schools is just awesome and to the point! I work in the automotive field, I manage the parts departments for a Nissan and Hyundai dealer as well as being our onsite IT. A modern automotive technician can name his salary. Good ones make $30 or a lot more an hour, easily. Why is that? Supply and demand. Our country has fostered this false notion that every child should have a college degree, why? You should see some of the people that I work with or have interviewed for jobs that either have a college degree or in school to get theirs. When I was in college, I am 43, we were taught subjects outside of our major; but it was professional development. We taught proper dress attire for work and interviews, the importance of promptness, and how a good work ethic can help to separate you from your peers (teaching that you are in COMPETITION with others for that job or promotion); all of these are sadly lacking in today's institutes of higher learning. I have a good friend who has a degree in Electrical Engineering and owns his own highly successful company; he has told me that when he hires people, all that a degree shows him is that they may have the ability to learn their job, but maybe not. Some of his best employees are ones that work in a degree position without a degree; because they are hungry and eager to learn and show a good work ethic.
@MichaelWells It's not about regulations and many big businesses have said as much. That's just a red herring from conservatives. That's not the reason why Apple doesn't make their products in the US.

But, on the other hand, without regulations you get situations like in China Foxconn's plant where they switched form using rubbing alcohol to clean that glass screen you're referring to to a toxic chemical because it evaporated quicker so the workers could clean more devices in the same amount of time.

No regulations allow Foxconn to have their workers do 12 hour shifts of manual labor that is very repetitive that results in a whole host of issues for workers. The description from the NYT article paints the working environment there equivalent to minimum security facility in the US. That's what no or weak regulations open the door to.
@terry flores
the biggest customer of the fortune 500s is the US government, I wonder what the difference is. Remove the federal government out of the equation and most, if not all the big corporations including IBM, MICROSOFT, ORACLE, etc. will bite the dust. And don't forget, that all the technology wonders that we are enjoying now were financed by federal grants to these big companies. None of them spent their own money to finance basic research on something that ROI is a big question mark...
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@terry flores
Pretty soon Apple products WILL NOT be designed in California!
The only thing that will remain in the U.S.A. is the "shareholder" meetings!
@terry flores Right on target. However, the systemic issue of why we don't have more and better vocational/technical schools or lost our manufacturing base in the last 25 years is the fault of CORPORATE AMERICA. They are the ones that started outsourcing jobs 25 years ago mainly due to cheap labor to produce basic gadgets. During the same period many of these countries started improving their workforces as well in order to compete with making higher end products too. Americans companies responded by moving even more better paying jobs overseas. They didn't care how that would affect their local communities and consumers because they now were competing in a global market. That's when Corporate America broke their pact with the American worker. That's what Betsey Stevenson, the chief economist at the Labor Department, was referring to. Since then, what's been good for Corporate America is now increasingly bad for the American worker. The lost of good paying jobs, pension plans, and reduction of unions are all directly related to this issue.

Corporate America could have taken a different tack to deal with the growing manufacturing strengths overseas by staying at home and working with government and schools to come up with a homegrown solution. Instead, they took the easy way out and threw the American worker and student under the bus for quick profit.

Corporate America is now completely about short term gains and profit.
The consumer buys the less expensive good product. You make the product in the least expensive place or someone else does. It isn't selling out, its survival.
@hayneiii@... No it is about CxO bonuses and salaries.
@mrlinux
Why don't you read the article and you might have your closed mind opened. It's about the ability to be flexible and responsive to a mass market, not about executive compensation
@mrlinux -

100% agreed.

But ssekdad raises a fair point about being flexible in a mass market as well... it's amazing, for a country that is a proponent of freedom, it's amazing how we're all slaves to the mass market...
@ssekdad "flexible and responsive" are code words for horrendous working environment.
@hayneiii@...
The most innovative engendering talent resides in America. The most innovative just-in-time manufacturing is in Asia. The most technology dependent and technology conscious reside in the west. The most profit sensative balance sheets and investors are probably in the west too. If you study this formula you will find the toxicity in it, and you will learn why our manufacturing jobs are in Asia. Add to that the Chinese government building factories and a manufacturing base to ensure employment for a percentage of their population something not so easy here with a gridlocked congress and you will understand that as long as there is lethargy in congress few jobs will be returning to the US anytime soon. I know this as I'm responding to this post on a device designed in California and manufactured in China.
@hayneiii@...

If you say so.

Take out the word "good" and your post will be more accurate.

BTW: It won't be survival once cannibalism becomes the only way out, and - trust me on this - they will snack on a hayneiii whenever they feel hungry...
@hayneiii@... That's true for the business side not the consumer side. Yes, it's an issue of supply and demand, but demand is affected by consumer knowledge. That's what companies are keeping from consumers. Companies benefit from uninformed consumers. As consumers, many of us are demanding additional information about products so we can make an more informed decision when it comes time to spend the little money we have.

Unfortunately, the consumer doesn't have the same power and influence that business has in this country which is why the consumer needs the help of the government to level out the playing field in our economy. Corporations constantly fight that tooth and nail and couch it in terms of regulations being bad. That's bull. What they want to protect is having as ignorant a consumer base as possible.
The woes of capitalism.... profitability at all costs (including social & environmental)...
@skr22 - It's not just capitalism. Most people still think a company with an American name is somehow concerned about the country, and it's just not true. HP and IBM get less than one third of their revenues from the Americas (North and South). A high percentage of their executives are based in foreign countries, and their stockholders are based all over the world. They have no ties left to the US, or interest in building here. And they would gladly pull up stakes and move somewhere else if it gained them $1 in profit.

So who is left to protect our interests? Certainly not Congress, who sells themselves to the highest bidder. State and local governments are equally susceptible to the legalized bribery that exists in the US political system. So the answer is "Nobody is looking out for us or our jobs, period."

And that is why the US will eventually implode and become another fallen empire.
@terry flores
The geo political system in this country is broken. Our congress sell out constituents regularly to corporate intrest through lobbyist for some time now. As for the presidency! Why does it cost a billion dollars to run for President !!!

Why should it cost over a billion dollars to get elected by a population of 312,903,208 (US Census Bureau Data 01/24/2012) where the highest voter turn out ever occurred in 2008 and was only 63%?

Lobbyist, pursuing corporate intrest sold this country to corporate intrest who in turn take our ther manufacturing out of the US and pay little or no taxes here in America. How can we succeed as a country when we have so many cheats working agains us.

And finally, when are we going to stop persuing Empire and bring our young people home? We investing over 43% of or GDP to fund the Military Industrial Complex, some of that money could be refocused on making life inside our country great, then we may be able to have better schools to compete with China, India and the rest. Instead there are more Chinese and Indian engineers than American working here in the USA.

We may never be as great as we were if we continue to AID foreign countries instead of aiding American citizens. The purpose of us electing these thieves is to help us. To put America's first, not foreign countries, or their own pockets to the detriment of their own fellow citizens.

I say out with the lot of them, as it would seem that "common sense" is increasingly uncommon in both houses of or congress. It's time to put American families first.
@terry flores -

In which case, why do they still take millions of tax dollars in the form of subsidy (corporate welfare) or, far worse, bailouts? No loyalty to us yet they demand to get free money from us?
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Today's a global marketplace
Richard Flude 23rd Jan
The scale of manufacturing in china has to be seen to be believed. The decline technical competency in the West have been much talkedabout. It continues unabated.

Asia has a dynamic missing in the old world. It is the primarily reason we continue to be drawn to relocating more of our operations there. 2012 is the likely the year for my move as well. I can't wait.
@Richard Flude
I know, I work in humanitarian aid with Doctors Without Borders in Shanghai helping Earthquake victims. I see the scale of Chinese investment in their own people and infrastructure every day. We are not investing in the USA infrastructure or our people, we are investing in China!
@Richard Flude The west? Speak for yourself please. Last I looked my country a germanic country was doing just fine. Oh and guess what we are expensive, but flexibility is they key.
@arcorsai@...
Our population is 312,903,208, the Chinese population is over five times that at 1,338,299,500+, so it's not the case that we may have to speak Mandarin, it's that we should learn to speak the language 850 million plus native Chinese speak if we are to compete and win commercial equity and peace with China.
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It happened
oncall Updated - 23rd Jan
Because the Chinese government MADE it happen. I mean come on, they spent billions on infrastructure, squashed the legal and environmental roadblocks, told their schools exactly what to produce. It's not magic or anything, just something highly unlikely to repeat in this country in our current state of decadence.

Of course I also look at the statistics that show the US as the worlds largest manufacturer. So maybe instead of overly focusing on trying to get back what we have lost (I agree it isn't coming back, certainly not soon) we should focus on nurturing what we actually are good at.
@oncall ........."statistics that show the US as the worlds largest manufacturer."
Where do you find basis for this claim?
@oncall
I concur, it's not coming back!

Foxconn in Tucheng District, New Taipei, Taiwan, is the worlds largest maker of electronic components and printed circuit boards. And regardless of your political dog food, Taiwan is China not America.

They manufacturer goods for just about every electronics company in the world, and specifically America. They make finished good used in every American home.

The irony is, though the company is located in China, employ Chinese workers, make Kindle Fire, iPod and just about all the computers sold in America and viewed as a Chinese company, they are not!

Foxconn is traded on NASDAQ as HNHPF in America. In London they trade on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) as HHPD, so I guess with American and British investors representing 64% capitalization of Foxconn stock. Further, as american stock holders representing the majority of the 64% stocks held. I guess that makes them an American company responsible for depleting the manufacturing base of the USA and taking jobs from American workers.

That said, are we eating our own dog food and complaining about it?
@oncall
we had Roosevelt social programs, the Manhattan project, the Eisenhower highway system, the DARPA projects, the NASA project. all these courtesy of the federal government unabashedly bashed by the other side as too big government. the chinese are just emulating what had been successful in the us. so maybe we have look back and do again what had worked before.
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Must be able to out-think a 486
Robert Hahn 23rd Jan
Too many journalists, and way too many economists, believe that highPaidManufacturingJob is one word. It is not manufacturing that once made factory jobs capable of producing a middle class lifestyle. It was the skill level required to perform them, and hence the value added by the workers. Welders, machinists, carpenters... these were skilled trades that took years to master.

Now all that stuff is done by machines. Any biped from the forest can sit there and watch to make sure there isn't smoke coming out of the machines. There isn't going to be a middle-class lifestyle in that job because it's a low skill job. Taking a low skill job and moving it to a factory does not magically turn it into a highPaidManufacturingJob.

The New York Times article talks about how Foxconn can hire 3,000 assemblers in an evening. They can do that because it takes five minutes to train someone from a village in the mountains how to perform the job. Could that job possible be a highPaidManufacturingJob if it were moved to the U.S.? We need to stop kidding ourselves.

The problem of what to do with "average people" isn't China. It's machines.
Really can't believe this article, appears to be written by the Tea Party. Evil government (US), idealist company forced into making obscene profits, etc etc.

Try looking at a documentary on Foxconn rather than reading apologist articles - yes it is all about the labour costs, if you can pay workers the equivalent of pocket money in the West.
@tonymcs@...
"...your pocket money in the West" is equivalent to lower middle class income in china. go figure...
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President Bush wanted exactly this way when he preached that he wants to "make America competitive," presumably by lowering wages and getting rid of unions. His definition of America was his people, the 1%, thus setting off class warfare against the 99%, those who actually need unions and good wages. He succeeded to make the US into a 3rd World country. He did not care for us, only himself and his people.
@vanax
Obviously only this one percent of You guys went to the polls to vote for GWB. Democracy requires more than watching Fox News and invoke the constitutional right to sh... one each others head.
@bartbox.news@,

Pres. Bush led the march to making America competitive, leading those who voted (the 1%ters and 1% aspirants) to vote for his anti-99% policies.
Some of our comments have no facts, just political rhetoric -- yeah, that will fix things. "It's Bush's fault". "the article written by 'tea party'". Folks, this is a brief review of a well-researched article by the king of the liberal press, the New York Times. Even they were correct in staying away from partisan accusations, because it is a society, not a government problem.

And as long as we blindly listen to the garbage that passes for reporting on the fun team sport of politics and root for our team, we are going to forget that technology helped get us where we are and ignoring it will take us below France and England and without their long history.

iPhones made in China is a symptom of us, not a condemnation of a nation that understands what we have forgotten.
@TomMariner,
You don't say what "we have forgotten," so you do not complete your argument, hence did not make your case.
@vanax So you think the Iphone would be made here if everybody including the janitor makes $35 an hour plus benefits for life? Also, what America considers poor is a far cry from poor when compared to these countries. What America's system has done is make our idea of poor so attractive that other people die to come to this country just for a chance at our idea of poor. What we are is spoiled. You don't think someone in China is getting rich? Someone is and it is probably the government not the workers, the workers live in barracks. You want some of that? Quit crying and get out there and go to work.
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onelove@... 26th Apr
If they needed so many trained engineers in a short time, and they really couldn't find the people here. Maybe they should have looked harder? But now that the iPhone and all other most expensive computers on the market and they pay the workers peanuts and work them to suicide! But again that was than and with all the years that Apple has been the RICHEST Company and why in all this time of China still make the product. Instead, why didn't Apple train the billions of super engineers in America paying the right amount of pay that a skill like this would be be FAIR? Doesn't that sound better to train our people to be able to put the "MADE IN USA" stamp on the box and help BUILD America Not CHINA! It comes to the Rich for the Rich and will screw their customers for GREED!

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