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Windows Mobile 6.5 disappoints; no Start customizations and stylus still required

By | October 6, 2009, 12:30am PDT

Microsoft officially launched Windows Mobile 6.5 this morning and with all the leaks and AT&T releases the information has been out for over a day already. I’ve had the chance to use both an AT&T HTC Pure and Pharos Traveler 137 running Windows Mobile 6.5 and I have to say Microsoft disappoints me greatly with this release. We have seen more leaked than what was released today so maybe there will be some upcoming updates, but I am disappointed by the lipstick Microsoft gives to us with WM 6.5. The thing is, the beauty isn’t even skin deep on this release and I think using Spb Mobile Shell 3.5 gives me a better experience on the Touch Pro2 than Windows Mobile 6.5 ever could. Check out my image gallery and video below and judge the new OS update for yourself.


Image Gallery:Some key screenshots from the Windows Mobile 6.5 update on a couple Windows Mobile devices. Image Gallery: Start menu Image Gallery: Today screen

I think the intent of the Windows Mobile 6.5 release was to provide a more finger friendly user interface on touch screen devices, while non-touchscreen devices remain pretty much the same. I believe there were some backend updates and improvements, but there were not readily apparent. There are four main areas where end users will see changes and these are in the Start menu, lock screen, Today screen, and menus. Let’s check out each area in more detail.

Start menu

In the past when you press the Start button or left upper Start icon you were taken to a left upper drop down, similar to a Start menu on a PC. Now when you press the Start button/icon you will be taken to a grid of icons (similar to an iPhone) in different configurations. The default Windows Mobile 6.5 has a 3 wide grid while other customizations may be provided. For example, AT&T has a 4 wide grid on the HTC Pure. At first you may be pleased to see a full screen of icons rather than the desktop Start menu, but that is all that is good about the new Start menu. The icons are randomly placed on the display and the only thing you can do with them is tap and hold to select to move them to the top. That is it! You CANNOT place icons where you want to, you CANNOT add or remove icons, and you CANNOT create folders and manage the icons to create an efficient device. IMHO, this is so ridiculous that I see little value in this new Start menu scheme and find it to be worse than what we have on previous Windows Mobile operating systems.

I recommend you load up something like Spb Mobile Shell 3.5 if you want to truly customize the user interface on your Windows Mobile device, at least until Microsoft pulls it together and provides some actual functionality with the Start menu.

Lock screen

The new lock screen is useful in that it provides you with a quick, glanceable way to view any notifications without actually starting up and diving into the device. You can tap the lock designator on the Start screen or press and hold the End button to lock the device. Notifications will appear, along with the number of each, in a center row and then tapping that icon will take you to the notification. Calendar appointments also appear in the bottom portion of the display.

Today screen

The Today screen is the sliding panels we saw on the non-touchscreen Windows Mobile Standard 6.1 devices that finally appears on touch screen devices. IMHO, Microsoft should have rolled this out at the same time as the non-touchscreen version over a year ago. I think this is a pretty functional display, but if you are using a device like the HTC Pure you won’t even see it at first because HTC has their TouchFLO 3D selected by default instead. TouchFLO 3D is actually quite fast and functional so you may not want to deselect it on your Pure.

If you have the Windows Default Today screen selected then there is again no customization available for you to optimize the list of apps and utilities on your Today screen. You cannot move, hide, add, or remove the different pieces and are stuck with what is provided. Many of these sliding panels are useful and I can see people using them regularly, but one thing I have always loved about Windows Mobile was the available customization and that is no longer there in these Today and Start screens.

Menus, apps, and more

You will find several menus that are now much larger and more finger friendly, but these also require that you now tap arrows to continue scrolling through long lists. The worst though is that diving down to this level and lower takes you back to drop downs that require you to have a fingernail or stylus to make selections. This is particularly evident when you try to create a new appointment, manage your regional settings, enter a new contact, or perform many other tasks throughout the device.

You would think by now that a company with a good search product like Bing would figure out how to implement a good search utility on their mobile platform. Wrong, the same lame, limited Search utility is on the device even though it has a new icon that had me getting my hopes up.

The Windows Media Player and Pictures & Videos applications are still the same pathetic ones we have had since the good old Pocket PC many years ago (do you really need me to manually update my library all the time and browse to the most likely photo storage location every single time I run the application?). Hey Microsoft, you have a great media player in the Zune product so why don’t you send the Windows Mobile team over there to learn how to do it right?

The new Internet Explorer Mobile browser actually is a nice improvement over the previous anemic version and now you can actually view the full Internet in the program. The automatic hidden buttons are even newer than the version of IE Mobile seen on my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 and for now the browser is just fine for most of my browser needs.

A couple other apps were included, MSN Money (stock ticker), Microsoft My Phone (backup solution), Windows Marketplace for Mobile (follow up detailed post coming soon), and MSN Weather (weather utility).

Closing thoughts

I wasn’t expecting a whole lot from this point release, but I was expecting more than what Microsoft delivered. I expected to be able to place icons where I wanted them on the Start displays, I expected to have finger friendly menus throughout the OS, and I expected some attention to the media player, device search, and more.

I am a fan of Windows Mobile, but find very little added value in this Windows Mobile 6.5 release and would never recommend anyone actually purchase a new device just to get this update on their smartphone. We are going to have to wait and see if Microsoft can pull anything out of the hat in Windows Mobile 7, but with the current schedule of late 2010, most likely slipping into 2011 like this release, I think the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 may be my last Windows Mobile device for quite some time.

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Matthew Miller started using a Pilot 1000 in 1997 and has been writing news, reviews, and opinion pieces ever since.

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Matthew is a professional naval architect by day and a mobile gadget freak at all other times. He purchases his own devices and then sells them on eBay or Craigslist to buy more. Many other devices are sent for review on a 30-day loaner basis and then returned to the carrier or manufacturer. If any are provided as “long term loaner units” this will be clearly disclosed in his reviews.

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Matthew Miller started using a mobile devices in 1997 and has been writing news, reviews, and opinion pieces ever since. He is a co-host with GigaOM's Kevin Tofel on the MobileTechRoundup podcast and an author of three Wiley Companion series books. Matthew started using mobile devices with a US Robotics Pilot 1000 and has owned over 125 different devices running Palm, Linux, Symbian, Newton, BlackBerry, iOS, Android, webOS, Windows Mobile, and Windows Phone operating systems. His current collection includes an HTC Radar 4G, Dell Venue Pro, Apple iPad 2, HTC Flyer, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nokia N9, Apple iPhone 4S, MacBook Pro, and many more, along with tons of accessories and classic devices like the Apple Newton MessagePad 2100 and Sony CLIE UX50. Matthew can be found on various discussion forums under the user name of "palmsolo".
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RE: Windows Mobile 6.5 disappoints; no Start customizations and stylus still required
urquattro83 14th May 2011
How does a person remove an app, particularly Facebook, from Windows Mobile 6. 5? Understand, I KNOW how to remove programs from the OS, but the Facebook app does not appear on the tab to remove programs,
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It's a stop gap...
Sleeper Service 6th Oct 2009
...to make WinMo a bit more usable but it just emphasises how much work Microsoft have to do to produce a slick consumer mobile OS.
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I agree..
planruse 6th Oct 2009
and I hope that WM7 will be offered as a free upgrade on all these devices when it is released. I have watched the videos on engadget and there were some nice touches but was really dissapointed to see some of the old style forms still being used e.g. Dialing Rules - how much effort is it to make them look a bit more modern! To be fair to Windows Mobile it is still a capable mobile OS which, apart from multi touch support and a very dated interface, is probably still on par with the iPhone OS feature wise. I think I will hold onto my iPhone a little longer before considering my next phone as if the Zune team have had much input into WM7 it could be a very compelling device.
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I am waiting to purchase
GuidingLight 6th Oct 2009
The Omnia 2, with WM6.5 I agree, I would hope to be able to upgrade the device to WM7 whne it is released.
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I was thinking of getting...
planruse 6th Oct 2009
the Omnia 2 or the HTC HD2. I think I will wait to see some reviews on a beta of WM7 before taking the plunge back to a WM device. I like my iPhone but I am getting a bit bored at the sight of it, maybe it is time for Apple to release a few different designs because if they don't I imagine other people will get bored too.
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---I'm too busy using it to look at anything but the screen.
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I use the iPhone all the time as well but just like other things in life such as clothes, cars, hair styles, decor, etc you sometimes fancy a change even though there is nothing wrong with them. It is a good device but I feel it has been over rated and there isn't anything that compelling to make me want to stay with it. I have an old 8GB version and if someone was to offer me a 3GS I wouldn't turn it down but at the same time I wouldn't miss not having an iPhone.
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I agree...
Sleeper Service 7th Oct 2009
...the phone market is driven by fashion. No matter how good something is it can become boring.
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Apple is safe.
terry flores 6th Oct 2009
Point release or not, Microsoft is under the gun to come up with something better than this retread if they want to stay in the mobile device business. Make no mistake, the handset makers are not just disappointed, they are steaming about Microsoft's inability to keep up, because it's putting the hurt on both their sales and their selling prices.
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Finger Friendly is a nice to have... Win Mobile needs the following...

1) STABILITY!! I don't want to EVER, EVER, EVER,EVER reboot my phone... I REALLY REALLLLLLLLLYY NEVER want to have to re-boot my phone while I am trying to answer a call.

2) More Capacity! Give me a 200GB HD
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Were a couple of my complaints fixed?
BOUND4DOOM 6th Oct 2009
I have had a few complaints of things that were basically stupid things that should have been in the phone from the beginning.

1. I keep my phone on vibrate. I hate ringers and people in offices and the multitude of ringers. vibrate is fine. I had phones before windows mobile that when you plugged them in to charge they automatically switched to ringer since obviously it is charging and you can't feel it vibrate. You have no idea how many calls I have missed because I come home and plug it in and then someone calls but I can't hear the vibrate. Regular phone have done this for years.

2. When the battery gets low, it vibrates, lights up, tells you hey warning your battery is low. Which ok, so I dismiss and it should go away. But no I dismiss, put it in my holder, it lights up vibrates to let me know the batter is going dead. I dismiss put it in my holder, it lights up vibrates lets me know... this keep repeating until I shut the thing off or it died from all the lighting up and vibrating. I mean I could really squeeze another couple hours just sitting there if it didn't keep lighting up and vibrating and telling you the battery is low. I always found this stupid, the batter is low so use more power constantly letting me know.
I seems that they all they have tried to do is COPY iPHONE.
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Copy iPhone? Not Really
condelirios 6th Oct 2009
They would have to drastically remove functionality to get down to iPhone level. Honestly, Windows Mobile has a far larger feature set. They just need to repair the stability and get someone to build one with LOTS of capacity.

BTW.. While finger friendly is nice, NEVER remove the stylus. The stylus allows you to write on the display. You need something that simulates writing with a touch screen phone, otherwise...Who needs a touch screen?

The trackball on a blackberry works for navigating and as a mouse better than touching the actual screen, since you can actually see what you are clicking on.

Drawing and Writing on the screen are the major pluses to touchscreens and Windows Mobile does this well. Getting rid of the stylus, just makes that impossible....and makes the touch screen fancy and useless.
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iPhone has less functionality?
HollywoodDog 6th Oct 2009
On what planet do you spend most of your time?

"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
- Ballmer, 4/30/07
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Leave it to monkey boy to eat his words.
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 6th Oct 2009
nt.
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So what is the iPhone's market share...
Sleeper Service 7th Oct 2009
...of the phone market an does the iPhone make a lot of money?

Where's Ballmer wrong here?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=8126

That is; as far as smartphones go iPhone appears to have the potential to become more popular than Ballmer estimated and if anything the Android is more likely to be adopted en masse due to its open nature and the potential therein. Still; the linked article itself is based on a mere forecast, so it will be interesting to see what unfolds once WM7 is released. For now I'm satisfied with my htc-03a Android...
I'm an IT guy, and chose an HTC Windows 6.1 device 'cause I wanted the functionality to do things like remote server administration.

If it wasn't for the SPB shell, I would've returned the unit after 2 weeks.

One of the most irritating things is that the interfaces between modules don't seem to match. Worse yet, you can't turn off what must be the worst predictive spelling features on the planet.

And why can't IE actually be functional on this thing, negating the need for Opera?

Maybe this is an HTC thing, but why does the backlight go out when I'm dialing voice mail BEFORE I am prompted to enter my security code?

I'm sorry... It took me a month to get my W61 phone where I could use it, and even then I'd never give one to my parents. I'm deeply disappointed to hear that W65 isn't any better.

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Before you dismiss 6.5 based on this hopeless article ...
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 6th Oct 2009
... go try it out in person first.

I actually find 6.5 to contain a refreshing set of updates to 6.1 ... but then I know that 6.5 is a stop-gap release improving WinMo's touch features until WinMo7 comes along.

The author was, aparrently, expecting 6.5 to deliver the second coming. Alas, his expectations are entirely out of kilter with MS' clearly stated goals of the refreshed OS.

WinMo 6.5 **IS** just a refresh of the OS, improving its finger-aware UI and remedying several annoyances.
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3rd generation iPhone ripoff too. RIMM's been
there, done that.
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Second Coming
ToddSherman 6th Oct 2009
I don't think Matt was expecting the second coming but after several years of development I think it was reasonable to expect that the start page could be customized. Althought it take Apple over a year to get cut and paste.

I think if Microsoft releases updates on a regular basis they can win over many people. I want to see progress.
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I just wanted a touch UI update, no 2nd coming
palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller) 6th Oct 2009
I am not clueless and knew what to expect with WM 6.5 and kept my expectations quite low. However, Microsoft didn't even meet these with a half-assed attempt to add a layer or two of touch and not make these touchable improvements through all menus like they should. They also give you a lame Start menu/display with absolutely NO customization. They spent more than a year on this? Ridiculous!
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Actually WM6.5 is WORSE then 6.1
istvan@... 16th Nov 2009
There aren't many changes, but most of them are for the worse.
Let's see...

1) Some things, like trees in some programs seem to take a lot more space then they used to, so in fact the screen contains less.
2) The fact that I used to be able to select what programs are in my menu and in what order have a lot more value then what they are doing now. All the programs I chose to install are at the end of the list some scrolls away, while a lot of junk that came preinstalled with wm6.5 are on the top cluttering my screen.
In fact the ONLY thing that is a true improvement is the lock feature. I'm really sorry I upgraded to 6.5. I'd downgrade if it wasn't so much work. De-void tell me what it is that you actually like about 6.5, and why this is not 6.1.1
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I think it is better
jivester 6th Oct 2009
I agree that it is painstakingly slow for WinMo to
come out with something that is as fun as the iphone,
but I do think they made an improvement in function
with this release. I just upgraded to the Pure for
$50...not bad coming from an old WinMo smartphone 3
yrs ago. For fifty bucks, and all the really nice business applications that come standard in WinMo, I
am happy with a more touch friendly OS. Still, I can't
wait for the real competition in WinMo7. If that too
doesn't line up then I will forever go over to Google
(will always avoid apple products).
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Why so surprised?
Jeremy W 6th Oct 2009
It has been obvious for the better part of a decade that WinMo is another
monopoly defender for Redmond. Its place is to communicate, yet again,
that "You have no choice." in mobile devices. Earth to BloatFarm: Wakeup!

Therefore, there can be no surprise when this offering is sub-par. Simply,
WinMo is driven by the "What the hell, they have no other alternatives"
mentality that infuses everything from MSFT.

Only when WinMo is existentially threatened will it improve.

Unless WinMo7 is a titanic leap forward, expect WinMo to go the way of
PlaysForSure, Money, SPoT, Recite, etc. - just another failed product that
had promise but was polluted by the "They have no choices" mentality.
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Jeremy, I just knew
GuidingLight Updated - 6th Oct 2009
you would stop by after reading the headline!

How have you been doing? I see the happy "AnythingButMicrosoft FUD" is still flowing from your fingertips.

Hopefully WinMobile 7 will not go the way of Lisa, Newton, AppleTV, the Cube, et cetera!

It is too good of an operating system to be relagated to storage shelves in some dusty warehouse someplace.

Earth to BloatPoster: Wake UP! wink
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Of those you mentioned I find...
James Quinn 6th Oct 2009
The Lisa to be a revolutionary computer system that while it did not
sell well was the stepping stone to the Macintosh. The Newton was
developing well and its last version has promise but Apple was not in
any shape to continue development on it still it has some killer tech
and I would say the iTouch and iPhone have inherited some from the
Newton. AppleTV has yet to prove any sort of a failure.. not a huge
seller mind you but it has potential still and to be fair if you apply the
same MS standard as you do to Apple you have to give Apple a few
more tries to claim it a failure. The Cube I'll give you and you should
have mentioned the Apple III. The others not so much.

Pagan jim
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Spb Mobile Shell
nordyj2001@... 6th Oct 2009
While I've been looking forward to trying the 6.5 upgrade, I don't know if it'll work on the Samsung i760 or not. I do, however, use Mobile Shell as the author mentioned, and it is a fantastic front end. My only complaint is that it seems to disable quick call functionality (holding down 2, for instance, to call someone that you've assigned). But I'm on 3.1, so maybe they've fixed it in 3.5.
In the beta versions of WM6.5 you could move shortcuts on the Start Menu/Page (there are videos showing icons being drag/dropped) and the OK button was bottom right + much bigger.

Are you running the final build?
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Yep, this is the latest and greatest
palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller) 6th Oct 2009
Microsoft must have taken that out of the final build because you can only move apps to the top and NOTHING else with the Start screen.
Maybe but Google is proving well, that it can and is gradually starting to compete with the iPhone. The HTC Hero is an excellent phone, with decent size App Store.

The Palm Pre is also very good but is let down by a rubbish app store.
As a Windows desktop and mobile developer, I tried preview versions of 6.5 on my phone months ago, and just as quickly backed down to 6.1. IMHO the fixed honeycomb icon layout is a joke, and the Today scroller is nearly useless. Suffice it to say, they have a LONG way to go with the OS. Plus there are still numerous unresolved issues with Marketplace that are confusing and confounding developers.

The thing to remember with the apps is that all of them were originally designed with menus, dialogs, etc. as per the original design guidelines. It will take a good long while to update not only the built-in apps, but the third-party apps, to be more "modern" and finger-friendly. Changing the UI in these directions is not easy or cheap. MS did what they could in enlarging the menus, and making other aspects more finger-friendly, but IMHO it turned out pretty ugly.

I think what MS should have done is introduce a new set of APIs that would get them all the new UI functionality, but in a much nicer and cleaner way than what they did with WM 6.5. The gesture API introduced in 6.5 is only a half-way attempt at this. I predict that a larger set of new APIs will be in WM 7. In fact I would say it MUST be in WM 7, or risk losing even more developers to the newer OSes. This would then allow developers to migrate their apps to the new look, while preserving compatibility for the older apps.

As far as storage, there is no excuse in this day and age to come out with phones with anything less than 8GB built-in, and while that's really up to the manufacturers, MS certainly has the muscle to require it for their OS. Considering you can get 8GB flash for under $10 at retail, I can't imagine this would raise the prices of the phones that much.
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I wish MS scraps the bee hive icon arrangement. When you have straight rows of icons, it is easy to scan the icons from left to right, then down and left to right again, to see what icons are present. But with the bee hive arrangement, your eyes have to be going up and down, up and down across the screen, creating fatigue. Plus I think it looks plain ugly.

Also it certainly would have been nice if MS vetted the OS to a relatively wide group of testers, so that the issues discussed in this article would have been minimized.
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They did that
keoz 6th Oct 2009
for the big fingered people when you click an icon there are no icons around you can touch more accidentaly than the standard arrangement, however yes I agree is a bit harder to read
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MS Should go back to Windows3
GregWoods 6th Oct 2009
I still remember the first time I used a
touchscreen pocket pc. My first though was...
why are they trying to emulate the desktop
start menu when it clearly isn't suitable for a
small screen.
Both the windows smartphone, which is list
based, but full screen, and Palm, which was
always grid based and full screen, were much
better approaches.
Finally, Microsoft have seen the light and
created a start screen which looks more like
Windows 3's Program Manager application.

I find it a huge improvement, but agree that
honeycomb is not the way to go. I suspect it's
a gimmick to differentiate from the iPhone.
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The honeycomb was specifically designed ...
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 6th Oct 2009
... to minimize the likelihood of you accidentally nudging a neighboring button whilst trying to select a particular icon.

Arranging the icons in a honeycomb massively reduces the number of false-touches.

I'd give it a few weeks and then see what it's like to try to use a linear-grid arranged UI, I think you'll be surprised.
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It would probably be better if MS provided handset ...
P. Douglas Updated - 6th Oct 2009
... manufacturers and consumers, the option of spacing out the icons horizontally and vertically. Then again I've never read reviewers or users of competing smartphones, complaining about the normal grid arrangement of icons used in practically all of these phones.
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Need to customize? Head on over to XDA.
UncleBubba 6th Oct 2009
Just head over to XDA and download Chome editor and re/Start. You'll then be able to rearrange your home screen, start menu, and all of your folders. May also want to download Titanium Weather & Fave People to add to the Today screen. Not sure how stable the released version of 6.5 is, but one of the cooked versions I'm running on my FUZE is rock solid. No lock ups, no reboots required.
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What is the average life expectancy of a phone?
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 6th Oct 2009
for the average user I would say 2 years maybe 3. I think in order for MS to get on board with what other OS designers are doing they are going to have to scrap the current API's and do something radically different in order to really compete in the touch screen market. The old style of menu's driven deep is over.

The truth is that MS may not be able to retain backwards compatibility with every app ever written for the current versions of WiMo. But if they develop the API's get those API's to the dev's before lauching something new, then the devs could have apps ready to go.

Trying to keep backwards compatibility is great, but it is also a loadstone that can ultimately drown a product.
"Russian components, American components, ALL MADE IN TAIVAN" Lev Andropov, Armegeddon.

Everything built by humans will have positives and negatives. Vilifying or exalting someone that points out either, seems attempting to compensate for one's own inadequacies. Almost every blog, pro or con, Linux Apple or MS, is generally accompanied by the schill accusation somewhere.

Get over yourselves people. If for no other reason than competition, they all have their place.
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These "reviews" that get so caught up on one person's idea of what an interface should be are really a waste. You act like every device except this one has icons that go all over the place.

Even the iPhone didn't have moveable icons until the second version. Remember the videos with the audience of Apple fanbois actually applauding when Jobs (I think it was Jobs) moved the icons around the screen?

It's great that you put together a video, but holy mackerel, do you think you could review some of the more important things about the new version, and drop the drama queen act when a screen with small drop-downs is displayed?
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Good points and I agree but..
planruse 6th Oct 2009
unfortunately people always compare it to the most popular device at the time. I don't think I have ever moved any of the icons on my phone but the option is there. It would be good to see some more of the things it can do well - the one thing that drives me crazy with my iPhone is not being able to multi-task properly and closing down non Apple apps when hitting the home button. I prefered the exchange support on WM and I also think WM does copy and paste much better than the iPhone, but that could be due to using a stylus for selection rather than a finger.
Windows CE 5.x is dated, no doubt about it. But just about all the complaints that Matt has about the current OS have third party solutions. As others have mentioned, Sbp mobile shell is a FANTASTIC interface.

Verizon has SOLD OUT of the HTC Touch Pro 2. And its didn't even COME with 6.5 but will be upgradeable by the end of the year.

Keep it up Matt. Before long Windows phones will be so bad that they are sold out every where!

3 my 6.1 HTC Touch Pro 2!
what is 6.5's reason for existing?

you are making HIS point... what the hell has MS
been doing? when in the same time they take to
recreate feature that 3rd parties have already
put on the platform.. other manufactures have
created whole new smartphone OSs.. MS is the
largest software company in the world.. why can't
they perform like one?
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What you're in love with...
storm14k 7th Oct 2009
...may be HTC's customizations of WinMo and not exactly WinMo.

Maybe it would be better for them to actually take the Android route and let the OEM's customize to their hearts content while they just focus on the core OS.
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Tha't weird.
NeoZon@... 6th Oct 2009
You say you still need to use the stylus. That's weird, because in your demo you only used your fingers. So, I guess you don't really need a stylus. Huh!

Uh, Oh! Seems like the Windows phones have caught up with the iPhone. Except, hardware spec-wise, their more powerful. It looks, like to me, the super phones are on their way. Sorry, iPhone lovers, you have a very limited selection. That is, when it comes to hardware specs. So, I hope you enjoyed your gloating the last couple of years. It's over. Your snobbery, showed your true colors. You had your moment in the sun. But, now, the gray clouds are moving in. And, it looks like a storm is brewing. Let's see if Apple has a next level game plan. My bet is they don't.
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@Tha't weird.
twodales Updated - 6th Oct 2009
You are completely delusional to think that Apple doesn't have a "game
plan". MSFT game plan almost three years ago was to spread FUD
regarding the iPhone and they got squashed. WinMo 6.5 is a joke. Put a
fork in Microsoft in the mobile space, they are done.
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Do you think that the video...
msalzberg 6th Oct 2009
shows everything there is about WinMo6.5? Try reading the
accompanying text.

"The worst though is that diving down to this level and lower takes you
back to drop downs that require you to have a fingernail or stylus to
make selections. "
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Go there for all of your WM desires! Some day they may cure the common cold. happy

They can make an old device new again.
A dog of a platform.

Worst out of all smartphones.

A legacy 2005, bloated OS with extremely user unfriendly menus, it really needs to be put out to pasture.
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Have you SEEN an HTC Touch Pro 2?
Heatlesssun 6th Oct 2009
Verizon sold out of them. That just doesn't happen with WinPhones. They're getting MUCHN better.
How does a person remove an app, particularly Facebook, from Windows Mobile 6. 5? Understand, I KNOW how to remove programs from the OS, but the Facebook app does not appear on the tab to remove programs,

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