ie8 fix

The Social Facebook Fiasco

By | December 15, 2009, 10:57pm PST

Summary: A huge blocker to understanding business value and usage of modern 2.0 technologies is the Facebook fiasco. The 800 pound/350 million accounts gorilla in the ’social’ space confuses the heck out of most of the planet. The latest attempt to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory: your personal information wants to be free. By default, [...]


A huge blocker to understanding business value and usage of modern 2.0 technologies is the Facebook fiasco.

The 800 pound/350 million accounts gorilla in the ’social’ space confuses the heck out of most of the planet. The latest attempt to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory: your personal information wants to be free. By default, according to Facebook- so they can make a buck off it.

Facebook is inexorably moving towards monetizing your social graph. This makes their product an open content management system - one that allows anyone online to rummage through your personal relationships, photos and musings and essentially an alternate internet. This is basically in the face of services like Twitter who are more focused on differentiation of your consciously living your life in the open and maintaining privacy elsewhere online… using services like Facebook (as it was before the latest change of terms).

Importantly, the effect of these Facebook fiascos are a confused business audience, some of whom would like to see an ‘enterprise Facebook’ in their corporate environment…if they could get a handle on Facebook’s ever mutating terms of service.  Nothing gives corporate IT security folks ulcers quicker than company intellectual property living online in environments that are a keystroke away from being available to the planet.

The fact that enterprise 2.0 vendors are generally very security conscious and arguably more aware of the importance of IP protection than many other areas of IT is undermined by Facebook’s cavalier attitude to their free service customer’s online artifacts. The assumption in some business circles is that business ’social software’ is even flakier than Facebook, with no locks on the doors.

The whole ’social’ online world is rife with marketing oriented behavior where the Faustian bargain is you use ‘free’ services but accept that your every move online is being tracked and exploited, and that when you have anything valuable worth ’sharing’ it will be sold by that service.

Julia Angwin did a decent job of writing up  ‘How Facebook Is Making Friending Obsolete‘ in the Wall Street Journal:

Just as Facebook turned friends into a commodity, it has likewise gathered our personal data – our updates, our baby photos, our endless chirping birthday notes— and readied it to be bundled and sold.

So I give up. Rather than fighting to keep my Facebook profile private, I plan to open it up to the public – removing the fiction of intimacy and friendship.

But I will also remove the vestiges of my private life from Facebook and make sure I never post anything that I wouldn’t want my parents, employer, next-door neighbor or future employer to see. You’d be smart to do the same.

Dan Gilmor shows you how to delete your Facebook and reconstitute it, still with your username but in a new blander version suitable for sharing with an impersonal world here.

The personal privacy fiasco opens up a real business opportunity for new personal services like Blackbox Republic, who are essentially dedicated to respecting your online privacy. It’s not free but it makes sure your personal life details aren’t either.

Since Facebook have managed to make their 650,000 strong developer ecosphere hate them by closing and constraining channels I have to wonder how long it will be before the next ’social network’ product takes the world by storm.

Meanwhile we have to deal with the effect of Facebook on the enterprise. People not paying much attention to what they perceive as a teenage space mean business analytics aligned with 2.0 collaborative technologies are still somehow pigeonholed in with ’social media’ marketing, Twitter hustlers and Facebook being promiscuous with your data.

Separately Andrew McAfee, the MIT professor, author of ‘Enterprise 2.0: New Collaborative Tools for Your Organization’s Toughest Challenges‘ is careful to differentiate the word ‘Social’ and term ‘Enterprise 2.0′ on his blog, which prompted some interesting comments from interested parties.

My definition is narrow, corporate, and managerial, and I’m glad to have it labeled as such. I think it’s both prudent and responsible to be circumspect about one’s claims, and I think it’s neither to assert that the old rules of society, culture, or business no longer apply because of the appearance of a network, some software that sits of top of it, and a large number of (primarily younger) people who like using it. As I wrote a little while back, Enterprise 2.0 is not THAT big a deal.

But whether or not it’s a big deal, it’s not going to be ANY deal until ESSPs (’emergent social software platforms’) and their attendant practices make their way inside organizations. And the point I was trying to make in my talk, and the one I still believe, is that keying the message / sales pitch / marketing / education effort around the word ’social’ is a bad idea.

The debate about what to call using modern collaborative techniques leveraging 2.0 web technologies isn’t terribly important, as Andy stresses - it’s all about getting focused on the business value for your organization in context.

Using the word social in this context comes with an enormous amount of baggage in all sorts of areas as well as the Facebook confusion outlined above. Intranets, extranets and collaboration environments are typically given internal names such as Booz Allen’s ‘Hello‘ system which won Stowe Boyd and I’s ‘Open Enterprise 2009‘ award this May at the Boston Enterprise 2.0 conference, the CIA have an internal ‘Intellipedia’ and so on.

I can’t help thinking that like Facebook, the ‘Social Business/Enterprise 2.0/Web 2.0 etc ecospheres are doing a good job obfuscating value to a potential audience already reeling from the recession. Clarity and consistency are important to everyone, whether as individual or business users.

2010 will see much greater 2.0 thinking business maturity and understanding of value, but I have a feeling the personal, consumer and marketing spaces will undergo significant disruption and change.

Mark Zuckerberg & Chris Cox image embedded here from the Facebook album: “Streams, Ties & Mustaches” by Caitlin O’Farrell

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Topics

Oliver Marks provides seasoned independent consulting guidance through the Sovos Group to companies on the effective planning of 'Enterprise 2.0' strategy, tactics, technology decisions and roll out.

Disclosure

Oliver Marks

Oliver Marks professional work is defined by an objective viewpoint of the broad spectrum of vendors and options available to his clients and readers of this blog. Oliver provides an impartial perspective of vendors and is focused on contractual affiliation with clients in order to select appropriate solutions. As such he has no business relationships with the companies or services he recommends. Oliver is a founding partner of The Sovos Group. The opinions, concepts and views put forward in this blog are solely those of Oliver Marks.

Biography

Oliver Marks

Oliver Marks is a founding partner at SovosGroup.com which provides seasoned independent consulting guidance to companies on the effective planning of 'Enterprise 2.0' strategy, tactics, technology decisions and roll out.

With extensive senior management practical experience in international enterprise collaboration, Oliver previously managed the Sony PlayStation 'WorldWide Studios' collaboration extranet, and has worked with the American Management Association, Sun, Docent/SumTotal Systems, Harvard Business School and McKinsey & Company on major initiatives around knowledge transfer and change management.

Oliver has dual US/UK citizenship and has worked on Asian, European and American global enterprise collaboration, and spoken at various conferences. He is based in San Francisco.

His personal blog is at www.olivermarks.com.
53
Comments

Join the conversation!

Just In

good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 2nd Oct
A good post. Do you know tattoo? It is quite amazing. We supply kinds of tattoo kits, tattoo machines, tattoo needles, tattoo ink and so on. Please buy liner tattoo needles at wholesale price from us.gsbYK
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
smithwillscott Updated - 16th Dec 2009
Outrage! Har.

All the self-righteous indignation is funny. "Somebody is making money from on-line content?!" Egad!

Guess what?! Everybody gets a reward from the Internet. And if you think your "personal information" never gets exploited then ignore the junk mailers, spam email, solicitation phones and panhandlers. YOU are the source of money in this world whether you like it or not, and everyone else wants it. Have a nice day.
0 Votes
+ -
The American Way?
OldeTurtle 17th Dec 2009
So you are happy with corporate greed, Wall Street bailouts, crashing markets, CEO golden parachutes. Did you used to run Exron?

Profit is one thing - gouging and stealing are another.

Corporations have a philosophy that says, 'You don't need to get all the sheep to follow you, just the first one'.

There is a new business model out there that doesn't cater to the apathetic cynics.

Meanwhile, stay on Facebook, support corporate greed and have a happy Baaaaa...
0 Votes
+ -
1st Corp. Greed is not a US only
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 17th Dec 2009
attribute - it's everywhere, and second the bailouts - again, are everywhere and third it's ENRON not EXRON... Hell greed is even in the poorest of countries, look at the war lords, drug lords etc.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Al_nyc 16th Dec 2009
Facebook, and many of the applications there like MafiaWars are nothing more than a way to capture an audience they can make advertising money off of. Everything else is secondary. They do what they think they can get away with to make more money.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Murfski 16th Dec 2009
I never got onto Facebook in the first place. Anyone who puts data out on the web, be it a "secure" site, the cloud, or anywhere else, should realize that it will get compromised. If you think differently, you're deluding yourself. So if I want to keep anything private, it doesn't get outside my firewall.

There's also the fact that, being an old fart and somewhat traditional, I feel that having 4,000 "friends" dilutes the entire idea of friendship. I have better things to do with my time than follow a bunch of twits tweeting away about nothing.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Phillips_R 16th Dec 2009
MurphyM - you obviously haven't found a need for
Facebook, which is why you don't use it, the same
is true for Twitter. Just like a number of exec's
who haven't found a need for E2.0 in the
Enterprise yet, therefore don't understand its
potential benefits if applied in the right areas,
to key business processes.
0 Votes
+ -
I remember hearing these phrases back in the dot-com bubble.
D. W. Bierbaum Updated - 17th Dec 2009
They turned out to be meaningless then, too!

Keywords like "potential" and "if applied in the right areas" leave too much wriggle-room for "it didn't work like we expected.", and forgets to also mention the potential risks involved in:

A.) Data breaches, through hackers or stupid employees (ask the Obama Administration about this last one, after the posting of multiple classified and private documents online). This doesn't even mention the moving target of 3rd-party site's privacy policies.

B.) Misapplication of the technologies through wrong application, or (again) stupid employees.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
phil.hawkins@... 16th Dec 2009
Where did you guys learn English? In the US we use "Facebook HAS" not "Facebook HAVE...' Geez, I know this is the British usage standard, but please use US usage... Like fingernails down a chalkboard.
0 Votes
+ -
Queen's English
Joakim_z 16th Dec 2009
Dear Phil,

Most english speaking people on this planet understand the original English language and its spelling. Statements like yours just make you look silly; surprise, but there is a world outside of the US that matters, and obviously we read these texts on ZDnet.

/Joakim
0 Votes
+ -
Fundamentalist terrorism
Daddy Tadpole 16th Dec 2009
It's funny how every country has its defenders of the purity of their national variant, however weird, of one of the international languages. You can tell they are mad because they don't understand that the internet is the *inter*net.

Unfortunately, it takes only a little bit of imagination to speculate that this sort of pathological thought process might be at the origin of some recent and ongoing horrible wars.
0 Votes
+ -
Since When Do Americans Own the English Language?
i2fun@... Updated - 16th Dec 2009
It's people like you that give American Travelers abroad a bad name. In case you didn't know English was first written and spoken by the English. NOT US!!!

So for God's sake it's we that should be conforming to their English venacular. Not the other way around. Because to them, the nails on a chalk board irritation and sense of our grammar is even more pronounced! wink

So first take the plank out of your own eye, before you end up swallowing your whole foot!!! haha... "Foot in Mouth" disease is becoming epidemic here America. Thanks for the most part, to people like YOU!
0 Votes
+ -
We do own the English language; we bought it on eBay- on CD. Surprisingly cheap but the shipping costs were just hell.

We even paid by cheque...I mean check.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Rikaroo 16th Dec 2009
We,, The old hands always knew that social sites would take off as soon as they found a way to make money without relying on ads. There is a lot right about face book,, and ever so much wrong with face book. But, having said that, you get what you pay for, so of course security is almost nonexistent.
Can you say "Mental Masturbation?"

Have we not all seen this in the decades past?

Well those of us who have been around for more than 4 decades :))

SOS different decade!
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
brucelparsons@... 16th Dec 2009
I am one of those who just don't get it I guess. The ONLY reason I have a Facebook account is to be able to view my (grown-up) kid's photos.

As for putting my own photos there, I don't for the same reason that I don't on so many other "photo sharing" sites. Because, as was eluded to in the article above, they usually state in their Terms of Use that they have the right to do what they want with them. ie my posting my photos on their free site gives them the right to use my photos as they see fit.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
davidde@... 16th Dec 2009
I been using Facebook to play Farmville. I have nothing on Facebook except a name, picture and county I live in. If you put personnal information on your page, it's dumb. It's what you make of it. Teenagers and career professionals have been burned by dumb decisions about what they openned up for the whole world to see. They should make smarter decisions about posting junk and personnal information for the world audience.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Tuggerofhearts 16th Dec 2009
I'm leaving Facebook myself. I didn't like the set-up to begin with, and with all the garbage and problems that I have been having for the past six months (only when I am connected to Facebook), I have begun notifying my friends that I will dismantle my site on the first of the year. In the meantime, I have changed all permissions to "friends only." On Dec 25, that will be changed to "no one." The only way they will be able to communicate with me will be via the private message system. Then after 1/1/10, the will need to email me.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Tuggerofhearts 16th Dec 2009
Face to face contact is way better. Even for business. All this reliance on electronic devices has begun to lead to the demise of re4al social values. But, like the "old fart," I don't need 4000 thousand unknown friends.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
offshorehag 16th Dec 2009
Brilliant blog post, 'Facebook' is the new 'Myspace' it should have been called. I couldn't agree more - especially in the context of the enterprise business application.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
anogee 16th Dec 2009
I have only been a Facebook member about two weeks now, but just after I seemed to master the old VERY COMPLEX security settings, they went and changed then, and definitely NOT for the better.

The more I digged in to learn about the new settings option, the more I saw deception and deceit to take advantage of users for financial gain at the expense of user's personal information. I was forced to remove a whole lot from my account, at the risk of loosing privacy, but so many users, that don't take the time to understand these complex issues are literally being used and abused by this company without their knowledge.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
peterd1965abc 16th Dec 2009
Facebook, the idea was cool but its about to jump the shark. Whenever my mom wants on - its over. AKA Im not posting info about what really happened. Then again it's interface is so horrible its liek a built in firewall. I see plenty of morons posting intimate messages on walls when they really meant to send an email. Soon it will go away unless vast improvements are made, for starters call Steve Jobs for design and interface consultation.
0 Votes
+ -
Storm in a tea cup
Fred Fredrickson 16th Dec 2009
You can keep your original settings and share information
only with those you wish to, or no one.

Do not ever put anything on a social networking site that
you are not happy for anyone and everyone to see,
regardless of your security settings. Same goes for Usenet,
e-mail, your user account at work or home, and so on.

If you want to send something sensitive, protect it with a
password and know that anyone with a bit of spare time
can access the data anyway. All you'll do is delay their
access to the information a bit.
0 Votes
+ -
I am Confused...
Zorched 16th Dec 2009
Why do people assume that a company has it's users best interests at heart? A company always has its own interests at heart first. If the users mean anything to them, it's either subsidiary or forced upon them.

As to this, I also wonder why people are griping about facebook privacy. It's always been open, with the option to close. See the above comment. As long as I've used it, it has always provided me with a option of seeing how others see my data. If I didn't want it being viewed, I didn't place it there.

I also wonder what makes people accept friend requests from total strangers. If you are that desperate for attention, then don't be surprised when someone uses that weakness against you. Yes, it's cold, but I've always viewed friends as just that: Friends. I don't just hand out the moniker to anyone. Maybe the word 'friends' has been devalued by social media.

Being Social Media, I also have to wonder who in their right minds would use said SOCIAL interface to discuss or maintain interactions private to a particular business. Work is like that Las Vegas commercial... anything that happens at work should stay at work, especially if it may involve trade secrets.
0 Votes
+ -
WTH is FACEBOOK????
torskdoc 16th Dec 2009
I'm still trying to come to terms with e-mail and a wireless phone in the house, not to mention cellphones, and the morons who use them on the road while attempting to aim their 4000# missile at the next victim.

RANT OVER!
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Jeff Tyler Updated - 16th Dec 2009
Facebook is a tool. It is a means to an end and not the end itself. As long as it remains functional and meets the needs of the consumer (paying consumer or not), it will remain useful even with competition. If it becomes cost effective to move all my friends and relatives to a new platform or, if the majority of my friends and relations move to a new platform, I will move. Until then, FB is a tool and only a tool. happy
0 Votes
+ -
I am sick of privacy changes all the time
Randalllind 16th Dec 2009
all they do is make changes all the time and it ticks the users off.
0 Votes
+ -
Other social networking sites have gone astray:

Craigslist, supposedly a model of democracy, has been taken over by bullies/gangs who flag off posts of anyone they choose not to like.

Kijiji has recently decided that links to external sites are not allowed. It wants to be the black hole of the Internet turning in on itself. Moderators actually encourage visitors to leave the site by editing or removing free content contributed by visitors and using foul language in posts in the forums.

Where does a plan for a business succeed by driving customers away? Certainly not on the web. Social networking sites should draw on the energy of members and not dampen their enthusiasm.

It makes me wonder who runs these organizations. Any "Mom and Pop" corner store could have better relations with customers. What ever happened to "the customer is always right" or "service is our business". Social networking sites that abuse their members are infected with a terminal disease.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
saminsc 16th Dec 2009
Facebook as mental masturbation that is best description of the Facebook frenzy I've seen. If you want to play with yourself close the door or people are going to watch.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Daddy Tadpole 16th Dec 2009
Tha article is twaddle. For many private users, fb is about Granny (aged 83 or so) updating her computer in order to be able to follow the commercially irrelevant postings of her progeniture. Said progeniture oblige by moderating their language. Since nobody I know even notices the adverts it's hard to see how they make a profit from this audience. But then, you just have to walk down the street or watch the telly to see an array of female bums that are supposed to provoke you subliminally into buying some kind of junk.

Please stop psychologising/philosophising on such very ordinary social phenomena.
0 Votes
+ -
Facebook is a total disaster
dude23 16th Dec 2009
Let's face it; they messed up with the privacy thing. They are a disaster with the lack of speed and responsiveness of the site. Can you even get on half the time? And, well... it's just pretty boring to be honest.
0 Votes
+ -
This article is a disaster
ken@... 16th Dec 2009
This entire article is a complete mess. A goodly amount of the text isn't even sentences, but worse than that the author begins mid-thought without giving readers any context for what he's talking about. How can anyone comment when the entire thing is unintelligible? This commentator should be fired.
0 Votes
+ -
Re This article is a disaster
harry.lake@... 16th Dec 2009
I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel I was completely lost. Before firing the commentator though, maybe he should be given a chance to edit his story. There must be some reason he's here in the first place. Probably just had a bad day. Certainly wrote a bad piece!
0 Votes
+ -
Facebook: Pointless, pernicious, no upside
schmandel@... 16th Dec 2009
I believe boring has already been mentioned here. Why feed your personal information to data mining scammers, "legitimate" and otherwise?
0 Votes
+ -
I forgot I had a FaceBook account
rmhesche 16th Dec 2009
Thanks for reminding me. I guess I'll visit it .... someday. LOL
0 Votes
+ -
"you use ?free? services but accept that your every move online is being tracked and exploited"

Or you could just use ThreadThat.com (a new website) to share information and files you don't want anyone else to see. The site allows you to have protected threaded conversations (like FB) sans discovery by uninvited parties...and it is FREE. All data is encrypted while in transit and at rest. All that required to use the service is an email address. No personal info is collected or tracked. Period.
They signed up with one understanding of what's what, and the other party changed this without notice and without recourse, in a way that makes them worry about how they have been using the (now changed) service under the previous terms.

It's simply bad business to make your rights and responsibilities a moving target, when people want a stable understanding, so they don't have to spend their time redoing and rethinking what they do with the service.
0 Votes
+ -
Wither (pun inmternded) Facebook
rbsjrx 16th Dec 2009
Facebook is the personal equivalent of chain e-mails. Twitter's not much better. These are nothing but massive time wasters marketed to the "I'm important" generation(s). I still maintain Facebook and Twitter accounts, but only because some out-of-state family does. I long since posted that if they have anything important to share with me, they should use personal email or a dedicated photo sharing site. I find LinkedIn, Plaxo, Joined, Ning, or even Yahoo Gorups to be a lot more useful.
0 Votes
+ -
Wither (pun inmternded) Facebook
rbsjrx 16th Dec 2009
Facebook is the personal equivalent of chain e-mails. Twitter's not much better. These are nothing but massive time wasters marketed to the "I'm important" generation(s). I still maintain Facebook and Twitter accounts, but only because some out-of-state family does. I long since posted that if they have anything important to share with me, they should use personal email or a dedicated photo sharing site. I find LinkedIn, Plaxo, Joined, Ning, or even Yahoo Groups to be a lot more useful.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
tdudash 16th Dec 2009
I think a story should be done about the Obama Administrations monitoring of social websites including Facebook for "Anti-government" activity. If the thought of this doesn't remind you of the KGB... then we need a history lesson. I'm not the paranoid type, but this is scary stuff.
0 Votes
+ -
ummm.....
awasson@... 16th Dec 2009
Sounds more like the last 8 years to me.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
gabriel bear 16th Dec 2009
quite some time ago--when z announced opening the sandox to developers and allowing them to profit--he specificallly announcved that fb was to become "the operating system of social computing".
evidently the world overlooked this clear, evident statement, along with the statement in the same speech that the fb algorithm requires one to give up more personal informatio0n than is gained in any transaction.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
menomineenative Updated - 16th Dec 2009
The Social Media are destined to evolve quickly. As the first web wave taught us, what's here tomorrow might be gone the next, and ultimately survival of the fittest will rule.

It's hard to believe that the dot.com boom (and bust) was less than a decade ago. I expect Web 2.0 surge to take a similar, if even faster evolutionary path. One thing is for sure; while the key players may change through the weeding out process, the social media are here to stay. Enterprise and individuals alike need to make educated decisions about how they plan to (or not to) participate.

Russ Alman
Alternative Marketing Connections
0 Votes
+ -
The site's functionality is more important !!!
mentzel.iudith@... 17th Dec 2009
Security issues are of course important, but not less important is the site's organization being friendly for the users community.

A am a software developer for 25 years and I get lost in Facebook !!!
Wherever you click you arrive to somewhere else
from you might have thought by reading the titles,
you don't know where to find what, a.s.o.

The site should be much more organized,
with consistent menus, its functionality much more clear for the simple people who are using it...

I don't feel like using it, whenever I am inside
I feel like leaving it quickly and returning to simple e-mails ...
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
brianbigel 17th Dec 2009
I'm not a big fan of the new privacy settings as it has made my life more difficult. I finally eliminated most of the privacy which is nice, but I shouldn't have had to do that.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
Scalor 17th Dec 2009
I deleted my account (after replacing the data with nonsense) yesterday after hearing this discussed at length on This Week In Tech.
John Dvorak has it right: People under 23 don't care baout privacy. People over 23 care a lot about privacy.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
OldeTurtle Updated - 17th Dec 2009
I like Facebook. I love some of the games.

Having said that up front, I am deleting my account within the next few days.

I experience several glitches every time I log on and try to play FarmVille or one of the other games.

Too many third-party ads - a sure fire way to increase spam.

Very non responsive to users. Try sending to Facebook help support - I can never find a link to an email address, can anyone?

People create silly petitions to 'force' Facebook to do something. I believe these go straight to the VP of Mockery at Facebook; his sole responsibility being to read petitions, laugh derisively, and shred.

I've lost real money playing in FarmVille. Even with screen capture proof, they will not respond to a refund request.

I'm afraid that Facebook, with all the potential it had, is a dinosaur following an old business model and can't even see the approaching giant asteroid.

I wonder who the asteroid will be. Not MySpace - same problems. Who comes next and who will stop luring us unexpectedly to porn sites, Canadian drug sites... spam spam spam spam spam... the gift that keeps on annoying.
0 Votes
+ -
Facebook is Drivel
GRJensen 17th Dec 2009
What a waste of time! If I have to use Facebook to see pictures of my kids and grandkids, I guess I'll just to wait until Christmas. The person who called it 'mental masturbation' was right on target.
0 Votes
+ -
No Brain - No Pain
zdnetnme 17th Dec 2009
Facebook ...

it's is the perfect "STUPIDITY METER"!

Looking at the number of faceless members - it's true - 98% of your global so called "intelligent monkeys" are actually nothing but a huge herd of dumb sheep.

But hey, NO BRAIN NO PAIN! So don't worry, just keep growing more and more stupid and before you know, you'll be gone, sold, owned, finish! Old times come all back in a "ULTRA MODERN" way!
0 Votes
+ -
RE: The Social Facebook Fiasco
southerngenes 17th Dec 2009
Well one problem you may be having is that Facebook does not OWN Farmville, ZYNGA.com does. Click on the REPORT link at the very bottom of the page and that will take you to ZYNGA SUPPORT. That is where you problems with ZYNGA.

If you have a billing issue with the ZYNGA all the reporting in the world to Facebook will do no good.
0 Votes
+ -
VALUES ???
zdnetnme 17th Dec 2009
Funny that you mention "values" ...

That's why they created the, someone said it so nicely, *INTER* net. There is room for every little crook to pretend to be a smart business man.

Back home (old days) we knew how to GIVE service. Thanks to the internet you can now READ about it!

No - it's just like with everything good. It's the stupid mass abusing and the crooks taking advantage, turning an original good idea into a disaster.

Mom and Dad are gone and their kids who enjoyed a blossoming spoilhood are now *intering* the social net values as web gurus.

This snowball is rolling down a steep mountain and growing fast in size - unstoppable. We don't need any values anymore. We have the internet (still for a while) until the the ball hits us in the valley, soon!
0 Votes
+ -
good idea about facebook
gavin.chan 2nd Oct
A good post. Do you know tattoo? It is quite amazing. We supply kinds of tattoo kits, tattoo machines, tattoo needles, tattoo ink and so on. Please buy liner tattoo needles at wholesale price from us.gsbYK

Join the conversation!

Formatting +
BB Codes - Note: HTML is not supported in forums
  • [b] Bold [/b]
  • [i] Italic [/i]
  • [u] Underline [/u]
  • [s] Strikethrough [/s]
  • [q] "Quote" [/q]
  • [ol][*] 1. Ordered List [/ol]
  • [ul][*] · Unordered List [/ul]
  • [pre] Preformat [/pre]
  • [quote] "Blockquote" [/quote]
ie8 fix
Click Here
ie8 fix

The best of ZDNet, delivered

ZDNet Newsletters

Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your inbox

Facebook Activity

White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources
ie8 fix
ie8 fix