Are PC gamers better than console players?

Are PC gamers better than console players?

Summary: Rahul Sood, who started Voodoo PC and is now an exec at HP, is never one to shy away from bold statements. In his latest missive, he claims that Microsoft has killed a project that would have pitted PC gamers against Xbox fraggers in online play.

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Rahul Sood, who started Voodoo PC and is now an exec at HP, is never one to shy away from bold statements. In his latest missive, he claims that Microsoft has killed a project that would have pitted PC gamers against Xbox fraggers in online play.

Why? According to Sood, Microsoft expected the Xbox players to cream PC gamers, but the opposite occurred: the top-notch Xbox players the company used would repeatedly lose to what Sood describes as "mediocre" PC gamers.

It's unclear why Microsoft would have pulled the plug on such an experiment, but Sood -- a long-time advocate for PC gaming -- speculates that if the company had implemented the PC-Xbox gaming bridge with its Live online environment, the Microsoft's Xbox team was would have been embarrassed.

Sood laments that this is another sign that PC gaming is being marginalized even though he feels it provides the best gaming experience available:

You simply don't get the same level of detail or control as you do with a PC over a console. It's a real shame that Microsoft killed this -- because had they kept it alive it might have actually increased the desire of game developers and gamers alike to continue developing and playing rich experiences on the PC which would trickle down to the console as it has in the past.

But, all things considered, does the PC provide the best experience? On the one hand, the latest PC graphics cards can provide better visual quality than console units. On the other hand, you can get a dedicated gaming machine with good graphics for less than you would spend for the latest graphics card. If price is no object, Sood is right that you could buy or assemble a desktop that is superior to the console, but most people don't have the means to drop a few thousand on such systems. For them, an Xbox 360 or PS3 is more than adequate.

Those of you who have both a console and a PC gaming setup: which do you prefer? Do you find you get better control on your PC, as Sood argues? Let us know your thoughts in the Comments section.

[Via The Inquirer]

Topics: Microsoft, Hardware, Mobility

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  • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

    It's not only a problem of visual quality, which will always be better on PCs. Controls on consoles for games such as FPS, RPG, or RTS usually suck, because they are not meant for this kind of games. Unfortunately, there are few multiplayer games in game types where consoles are better, apart from racing games.<br><br>"You simply dont get the same level of detail or control as you do with a PC over a console": So I must say that this sentence is completely false. Unless something revolutionary is inverted for consoles (which is not happening in the near or even distant future), PCs will still have far better controls for the type of game they bused in their experiment.
    atari_z
  • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

    Oh, look, another yet-another-latest-military-based-FPS related thing.
    Wodenhelm
  • Very Simple

    If you want a Console Gamer to be as good a PC gamer ship them with some type of keyboard and do not scale down the content to fit 4 buttons! The difference is that a PC gamer naturally will modify his environment. Environment being: where keys are located, hot keys, macros, etc. You can not do this on a console.

    Even once you go to a "neutral" field (console or pc) the pc gamer has always viewed the game in a more complex manner and a manner which can be modified so he plays "critically" and this is why the article is no surprise.

    I can't believe MS thought a console gamer would be better than a PC gamer!!! Not sure if that is true but if it is yet another ultimate fail from MS!
    ctunk
  • Just for the record: Playing a stupid shooter game ...

    ... is not the same as being in the military.

    So to the idiots who think that playing games will make them a good candidate to be in the military, and that the military will give you a cushy desk job (if you pass basic training), make sure you tell your mom what you would like to see on your tombstone.
    wackoae
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @wackoae
      What?!? not sure where this statement comes from? who is implying that being good at a "stupid shooter game" (as you put it) makes you a good candidate for the military?

      Not sure who would say that honestly, it was never meant to be "the same"

      that being said, its obvious you feel the shooter games are pretty good and much more realistic
      brad1000
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @wackoae
      Why did you post this? They didn't mention the military. Heck they didn't even mention shooters. Why? Just for the record.
      CFD220
      • Answer

        Reply to a post that got deleted.
        wackoae
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @wackoae
      Actually there have been studies done by the military that show FPS players have a much greater ability to process visual information than non gamers. In addition that squad movements and tactics can be learned very well in FPS. Go somewhere else with your "im the ultimate bad ass" bullcrap.
      xxravenstarxx
  • I dislike keyboard and mouse for gaming.

    Besides, I'm not very comfortable with that, like using WSAD for movements and a mouse for shooting and when looking around. That is for FPS and RPG.

    But if I want to use a keyboard, I'd like to map the following actions/movement keys to the following:

    Space bar: Attack
    Alt key: Alternate attack
    Comma: Strife left (step to the left)
    Period: Strife right (step to the right)
    Up/Down arrow keys: Go forward/backward
    Left/Right arrow keys: Turn left or right
    Page Up/Page Down: Look up or down

    So for a game controller, I would assign the following actions to the buttons:

    A button: Attack
    B button: Alternate attack
    Left trigger: Strife left (step to the left)
    Right trigger: Strife right (step to the right)
    Up/Down D-Pad: Go forward/backward
    Left/Right D-Pad: Turn left or right
    X or Y button: Look up or down

    Of course, I will need to buy a better game controller if I need more buttons (like switching weapons) but for me, I prefer simplified game play experience, regardless of game genre.

    I don't care if a PC gamer or console gamer are better than others. PC and console has their own strengths and weaknesses. For me, one of the weaknesses is that you will need a very fast GPU to play games made today and I am running at a resolution of 1920x1080 in my 57" HDTV. I will probably not see any difference when I play the game at a resolution of 1280x720, but I prefer 1920x1080. One other weakness is that some games won't let me assign actions to keys that I'm comfortable with and if I want to avoid using a mouse and assign the keys for turning left/right in a first/third person shooter game and the game won't let me do that, it's a deal breaker.

    Thus, I must say that I am better at console gaming. I currently have PS2 for playing Final Fantasy XII in widescreen mode, but I'd certainly miss out in playing Final Fantasy XIII, which I'll need to buy an XBOX 360 or PS3 (I prefer XBOX 360, as it'd be interesting to see what it's like when I port my own game over to XBOX 360 when using XMA GameStudio Express. I'd certainly buy a Wii to play Zelda: Twilight Princess. So anyway, the reason why I am better at console gaming is because of simplified game play experience using a game controller and I am a hardcore Eastern RPGer, whether it be Final Fantasy, Breath of Fire, Eternal Ring, Quest 64, and other Eastern RPG/jRPG games that are my favorite. Of course I do used to play other games like Zelda and Star Fox. For PC games, I used to play Final Fantasy VII and VIII for the PC, including Quake 2, Quake 3 Arena, and Tomb Raider 2 and 3 (no, I did not buy Quake 2 and 3, as I only play the demo version of the games with only the key mappings that I listed above and like I mentioned, I did not use the mouse for movement/firing).

    All in all, everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses. So, just because a PC gamer are so used to using a mouse and keyboard with WSAD for movements and that they have a high-end graphics cards does not mean they are a better "PC" gamer. In my opinion, the key word is comfort and how well you put your mouse and keyboard to use for gaming.
    Grayson Peddie
  • It's an age thing

    Perhaps I'm completely off the mark, and if you think so, you can just shut your mouth. This is an opinion, and I have no interest in debating it with you.

    It's an age / maturity thing. Consoles are for kids and young adults who are typically cost-driven into using a console system, with it's built in graphic and control limitations.

    As they get older, wiser, and have a few more dollars to spend, the ones who stick with gaming will inevitably move to a PC. With a PC, everything is tweakable and can be configured exactly to the user specifications, rather than being limited to the 3 or 4 presets available to a console.
    CrunchyFerrett
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @CrunchyFerrett I Have To Agree With You There, While I Prefer Using Thumbsticks And Triggers, Over Mouse And Keyboard Im Already Saving Up For A ?1000 PC Why ? Im 16 Years Old And I Wan't More Out Of My Gaming. Its Not Just The Fact That PC's Are Superior To Consoles. Its The Things On The Side Like Modding On RPG's. Fallout 3 Is My Favourite RPG And I Just Wan't To Play The Mod's You See On Youtube.

      Technically Speaking The Xbox Is A PC. With A Different OS. It Has A Triple Core Processor And A GPU. However You Lose The Freedom To Do What You Want When You Want. I.E Upgrade You Graphics Card Or Apply A New OS.

      Back To The Question In Hand I Personally Think Its Close But PC Gamers Would Win, Judging By Footage I've Seen They Have A Faster Response Time And Better Accuracy At Longer Ranges.

      If You Watch Any Frag Movie On Youtube. Ill Recommend One Search Rapid Paradox You Can Clearly See PC Users ARE Going To Win
      WELSHYx
      • Honestly

        @WELSHYx Honestly, he said the average gamers were owning the Console Crowd.
        slickjim
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @CrunchyFerrett<br>This expensive "gaming rig" myth needs to end.<br><br>Everyone needs a computer, and almost everyone has a flat panel TV, right? Well here are some numbers: (TV + XBOX) = $1000; (Computer + videocard + gaming mouse) = $850.<br><br>My whole rig is one small step down from top-of-the-line. I have my pokey computer and plug in a $150 CPU and a $220 graphics card--now handles any mainstream game at max settings. Throw in all of the mod and community perks and PC gaming ought to reign.
      Samwiches
  • Funny how my previous message had been reported as spam.

    This Talkback system is alpha or beta quality right now. I tried to edit my post and save it, and BAM!!! The error message pops up.

    Anyway, I couldn't remember what I've edited for adding additional information, but oh well...
    Grayson Peddie
  • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

    I personally prefer a pc for first person shooters and similar... The analog stick(s) will never be able to compare to a keyboard and mouse for FPS games. This could easily be solved if game developers added support for keyboard and mouse input, but I don't know if we'll ever see that happen.
    Li1t
    • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

      @Li1t

      You pretty much summed it up.

      Analog sticks just don't offer the control mouse targeting does. If you add variable sensitivity on a gaming mouse you add even more pinpoint accuracy at any range.

      High end gamers on the PC playing in leagues really display the wide gap in ability that the PC offers.

      The real downfall though of PC gaming is the inability or lack of interest in preventing hacking. The prevelance of hacking in the COD franchise is amazing and its pushing people away. There are simple ways to fix this.. Crowd source PunkBuster screen shot auditing!!!!
      jmidway22
  • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

    For me it's which system has the best throughput on the input. Flight Simulators and RPGs; the keyboard is better on a PC. Point and shoot games fair better with a console.
    sjones@...
    • Like?

      @sjones@... Call of Duty? Shut off Auto Aim (because the PC doesn't support that for multi-player) and I would own any console gamer with my dual core PC.
      slickjim
      • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

        @Peter Perry
        So you feel auto targeting and sticky targeting are unfair advantages over the unfair advantage of your mouse? HYPOCRISY!! :P
        xxravenstarxx
      • RE: Are PC gamers better than console players?

        xxravenstarxx:

        The difference is that the PC player must still use the mouse skillfully; auto-aim is a crutch that the console (computer) provides to compensate for less precise controls.
        Churlish