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HP doubles down on business tablets with $699 Windows-powered Slate 2

By | November 3, 2011, 4:33am PDT

Summary: Like Dell, HP is hoping that is can compete better with the iPad in a corporate setting, rather than on consumer store shelves. It’s just announced an updated version of its Slate business tablet that runs Windows 7 and features a slew of improvements. Dubbed the Slate 2, it comes with an Intel Atom Z670 processor [...]

Like Dell, HP is hoping that is can compete better with the iPad in a corporate setting, rather than on consumer store shelves. It’s just announced an updated version of its Slate business tablet that runs Windows 7 and features a slew of improvements.

Dubbed the Slate 2, it comes with an Intel Atom Z670 processor and promises an improved six hours of battery life. It now includes Swype’s finger-swiping software to input text on the 8.9-inch touch screen. (You can also use the optional Slate Digital Pen for stylus input.) The Slate 2 also has a front-facing Webcam, rear-facing 3-megapixel camera, a pair of USB ports, an HDMI output, and an SD memory card slot.

Enterprise-friendly features include an embedded security chip with HP ProtectTools to manage its settings, Computrace Pro support to remotely erase data in case of theft, and optional accessories like the Point of Sale Case, which includes a barcode reader and magnetic stripe reader.

At $699, the Slate 2 is priced lower than Dell’s similar $859 Latitude ST, though the Latitude comes with a bigger 10.1-inch screen. Of course, these are both pricier than the cheapest iPad 2 (even a 3G model), but Dell and HP are clearly betting that corporations (and their IT departments) will feel more comfortable using Windows slates than Apple tablets.

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RE: HP doubles down on business tablets with $699 Windows-powered Slate 2
Graham Ellison 4th Nov
This whole situation can be summed up this way:

In the world of business, most tech companies are still thinking strategically on a war footing, whereas Apple is operating a 'Hearts and Minds' campaign and winning.

In military terms, the only way to beat a 'Hearts and Minds' campaign is through sheer terror - a total lockdown of people's rights through insurgent or state terrorism. Look to every example in history for confirmation.

Corporate bodies with a vested interest in protecting the status quo [read: MS, every PC & Google/Android manufacturer, RIM and Amazon] have no alternative but to either go that route, or try to be the one that people love instead. In a world where the tech manager is not only not in charge, but he isn't even required anymore, the MSRIM model is dead. And that's important. Even without a visible enterprise operation, Apple is successfully winning great swathes of corporate customers - through the side door, and all without spending a single marketing Dollar or putting a single salesman on the road. Clever? No, that's pure genius.

Amazon is trying the 'Hearts and Minds' route with some options it thinks are innovative. They're not, and they won't work. Without a product that competes competently with iPad, and a consistent, truly global policy, they haven't a hope in hell. RIM is doomed. HP is doomed. Actually the list of the doomed is longer than the list of those that may survive. And the list of those guaranteed to survive is a list of one.

The key to success is to invent the future. No, I'm not claiming Apple invented the tablet. What I'm doing is stating the fact that Apple invented the business model and the entire strategy to be successful in the mobile era [and planned for it - maybe more than a decade ago], as computing as we know it moves off the desktop into the truly mobile arena.

The rule for the 21st century would appear to be: If someone has to tell you that the era of the desktop PC is over, you're a dinosaur. If you haven't got a solution for the new era, you're dead.

Having failed to plan for this situation - despite variously announcing and even launching multiple devices over the past decade or more, the rest of the tech world have already lost the war without ever firing a single serious, credible shot in anger.
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Joe_Raby 3rd Nov
PASS on that FAIL!
One thing is very clear, neither Dell, HP or Microsoft have a clear vision or real strategy to compete with Apple and the iPad. You can say what you want about Apple but they have a vision/strategy and the ability to execute.
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The have a strategy, but it's flawed.
matthew_maurice Updated - 3rd Nov
@Masari.Jones "Dell and HP are clearly betting that corporations (and their IT departments) will feel more comfortable using Windows slates than Apple tablets."

There are 2 problems with that idea. First, "Bring Your Own" is become more pervasive in the Enterprise. Second, even fairly hard-core Windows Corporate IT people have warmed to iPads (or more importantly, their Director and C-level execs who actually determine policy have).

The Slate 2 will sell, but not well.
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HP is once again going the wrong way
archangel9999 3rd Nov
@Joe_Raby It's too pricey for what you're getting - my Acer W500 Windows tablet works great and is under $500 - tabs like that killed HP's first Slate and will kill their second ill conceived attempt
@archangel9999 Yes, I also like the W500. But, it is no where near as fast or as powerful... From stylus input to spreadsheet documents to the virtual keyboard. It also isn't engineered for VPN or direct corporate network environments or for integration with enterprise software and accessories such as the point of sale. That $150 price difference for the Slate seems to be at least a fair shake.
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@Joe_Raby
....just something that works smoothly in today's corporate infrastructure. That it will work with existing software in a big plus!
"Of course, these are both pricier than the cheapest iPad 2 (even a 3G model)"

And yet cheaper than the most expensive iPad 2. It seems like it's competitively priced.

Unfortunately, it's running Windows 7 which just doesn't work for me in tablet form. Hopefully they will work out the kinks and have a great offering when Windows 8 is launched.
@Rich Miles

There lies the problem. IF MSFT charges $100 for licensing the OS for tablet and it costs $300 to build a basic tablet, that is $400 right there. It would be almost impossible to sell this for $500 to match the lowest iPad price. I still think that these will sell to certain consumers and businesses, but it won't be an iPad killer.
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@mstrsfty
so you're math will never work.
I think it's around $30-$35 dollars a license, so the tablets would be $335, so selling it at $500 would get HP $165-$170 while still matching the lowest iPad price, though in all honesty, this is totally different then an iPad.

One is a tablet, the other a tablet PC
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iOS is free?
toddybottom 3rd Nov
@mstrsfty
I didn't realize that all of Apple's developers worked for free.
@mstrsfty
Seriously, $300.00 to build????
Remember, they buy in bulk much cheaper than we can.
I figure $150.00 including the OS.
Of course there is the cost of having events so the writers can write and provide advertising.......
@mstrsfty
Haven't we had about enough of the "ipad killer" idiom? Does one something have to kill another something in order to be competitive? This really getting old!
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And yet
archangel9999 3rd Nov
@mstrsfty the Acer W500 Windows tablet (which is excellent) sells for $494 on Amazon
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Under $500
archangel9999 3rd Nov
@mstrsfty And yet the Acer W500 Windows tablet (which I have and it's excellent) sells for $494 on Amazon
@mstrsfty there is a great opportunity for MS to start a litigation against Apple. What you described is a fair competition - MS sells its OS to the OEMs. Apple subsidizes (unfair competition) its iPad by selling itself iOS for zero $$$.
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bad bet
The Linux Geek 3rd Nov
only Linux or Android are good on tablets.
@The Linux Geek Good to be thrown away? IPad is the best. Next comes windows. Anything that runs on android is pretty much unstable.
@The Linux Geek Isn't there a third OS that is pretty much dominating the tablet market right now?
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Battery life?
Michael Kelly 3rd Nov
If you can get 8 solid hours on this it may sell. If not, forget it.

Also the stylus is a nice throw-in, but you can get a stylus for any capacitive touch screen (e.g. all iProducts and Androids) for around $12.
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Not the same thing at all
toddybottom Updated - 3rd Nov
@Michael Kelly
"you can get a stylus for any capacitive touch screen ... for around $12"

Those aren't even the same technology. I have a "stylus" for my iPad and while it works relatively well, it isn't ideal for note taking because the end is big and mushy and not accurate at all.

While I've made my dislike for Windows 7 slates very clear, the digitizers on them are far superior to what I have on the iPad. By equating the mushy, inaccurate $12 iPad pen you can buy to the digitizer on these slates you've basically told us that you believe a $100 resistive screen tablet is the same as an iPad because they both have touch screens. Yes, both are pens just like both resistive and capacitive screens are touch screens but both are built completely differently and you certainly get what you pay for. The iPad is a capable note taking device but it is not a good note taking device. The Windows 7 tablets I've tried are fantastic note taking devices, they just happen to be terrible at pretty much everything else.
@Michael Kelly

The EMR digitizer makes it way way more useful in may verticals. Filling out a facebook poll, fine, hit the wrong checkbox or click on it over and over again until it goes in. Admitting a patient to the ER, click on the correct checkbox for drug allergies, and do it right the first time.
@Michael Kelly Have you tried using a stylus on a capacitive screen? Unless you're using it to touch icons and draw large shapes, it's useless. If you ever try writing a paragraph of words you'll soon feel the pain of having a tip that is almost as big as your finger.
DOA with an Atom. At least offer a version with an i5. Stupid.
@sharkboyjohn To be honest, I don't see why you'd need an i5 on a small tablet PC. You are not going to run very CPU-intensive programs on it, and for everything else an Atom should be OK, I think.
@HalfAKilo
obviously, what is the point of having ANOTHER useless device lying around, which isn't powerful enough to do anything besides open a webpage, when you can have one that IS powerful enough to do anything you need..... The same reason you don't buy a laptop/desktop without an i5 in it perhaps????
HP continues to make stupid moves. I'm just glad I don't own any shares...
Thats the hardware they should have released on the touchpad!
Thats the hardware they should have released for the touchpad!
Ha ha ha, WHO IS RUNNING HP ?

FAIL-ICIOUS !!!!!! WHY DO THEY WANT TO LOSE MONEY SO BADLY ??

FAIL-TACULAR !!!
Get ready for another 'fire sale'? I like my TouchPad... To me it's not worth anymore than the $150 I paid for it, but I really don't find much value in a tablet... It is awesome for my kids to play with and to read the news etc... but I don't really ever see me doing my job (Software Engineer) on any kind of tablet...
my classmate's mom makes $68/hour on the laptop. She has been laid off for 5 months but last month her check was $7564 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read this site http://phlpn.es/pzhb44
Gawd....what is wrong with HP these days? Seriously. I can only imagine the corporate meeting where some poor IT guy tries to sell this to his managers only to have one or more of those managers pull out their iPads and start comparing them. There *might* be a niche market for something like this as a very specialized devices modded for inventory control, delivery tracking and such, but beyond that....
@JustCallMeBC

This wasn't sold to execs as a good iPad or Android tablet killer. It was sold to them as a way to cozy up to M$ marketing to get cherry deals on Win7 & Win8 licensing.
@JustCallMeBC I think the HP salesperson would LOVE if the exec pulled out an iPad. He'd wipe the floor with the iPad in a few seconds. Here is what he'd do:

1/ Ask the exec to stand up, as if in a slightly overbooked meeting room or perhaps in a SCRUM meeting.
2/ Quite two paragraphs of some sort of text and have the exec take notes about said text in whatever way the exec would find most comfortable.
3/ Show how it would be done on one of the HPs.
4/ Start taking orders from all of the execs who have not been dumb enough to buy a media consumption device, thinking they could actually produce something on said device.
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Give me a break...
woan 3rd Nov
This is the best that they can do. I hope they build these to order because I would be hugely surprise if there is any demand for this at all. DOA...
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It is just a $100 cheaper Slate
grayknight 3rd Nov
The docking cradle has the HDMI port and two USB. The device only has one USB. The Slate 2 is slightly updated and cheaper, but nearly identical (the differences are noted below). Though the inclusion of Swype is great.

Slate 2: $699
Atom Z670 1.50GHz 667MHz FSB
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 600
Bluetooth 4.0
HP un2430 EV-DO/HSPA Mobile Broadband
Windows?? 7 Professional 32 OR
Windows?? 7 Home Premium 32 OR
Windows?? Embedded Standard 7
Swype Virtual Keyboard
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3841267-3955550-5160457.html



Slate 500: $799
Atom Z540 1.86GHz 533MHz FSB
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 500
Broadcom Crystal HD Enhanced Video Accelerator
Bluetooth 3.0
Windows?? 7 Professional 32 OR
FreeDOS
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3841267-3955550-4332585.html
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Good!
BeenThereDunnThat 3rd Nov
I hope it runs Silverlight!
Too bad there is not a thumbs down button. Stick with WebOs!
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I am writing this from an HP TouchScreen Computer, it is not resistive or capacitive in the normal sense. It is optical and multitouch, you can guide the cursor, etc., without even touching the screen, with finger or stylus, or the pen behind your ear. I was so disappointed to hear about the HP WebOS Tablet getting canned, but then discovered it was not really a computer, per se (useless without networking). This is what has real potential, a real computer, that uses the existing set of PC Software, that allows you to do work from anywhere, even without a network connection, that has the touch interfaces, to customize for a variety of applications beyond 'deskwork', like POS, Inventory tracking, kiosks, etc.
This whole situation can be summed up this way:

In the world of business, most tech companies are still thinking strategically on a war footing, whereas Apple is operating a 'Hearts and Minds' campaign and winning.

In military terms, the only way to beat a 'Hearts and Minds' campaign is through sheer terror - a total lockdown of people's rights through insurgent or state terrorism. Look to every example in history for confirmation.

Corporate bodies with a vested interest in protecting the status quo [read: MS, every PC & Google/Android manufacturer, RIM and Amazon] have no alternative but to either go that route, or try to be the one that people love instead. In a world where the tech manager is not only not in charge, but he isn't even required anymore, the MSRIM model is dead. And that's important. Even without a visible enterprise operation, Apple is successfully winning great swathes of corporate customers - through the side door, and all without spending a single marketing Dollar or putting a single salesman on the road. Clever? No, that's pure genius.

Amazon is trying the 'Hearts and Minds' route with some options it thinks are innovative. They're not, and they won't work. Without a product that competes competently with iPad, and a consistent, truly global policy, they haven't a hope in hell. RIM is doomed. HP is doomed. Actually the list of the doomed is longer than the list of those that may survive. And the list of those guaranteed to survive is a list of one.

The key to success is to invent the future. No, I'm not claiming Apple invented the tablet. What I'm doing is stating the fact that Apple invented the business model and the entire strategy to be successful in the mobile era [and planned for it - maybe more than a decade ago], as computing as we know it moves off the desktop into the truly mobile arena.

The rule for the 21st century would appear to be: If someone has to tell you that the era of the desktop PC is over, you're a dinosaur. If you haven't got a solution for the new era, you're dead.

Having failed to plan for this situation - despite variously announcing and even launching multiple devices over the past decade or more, the rest of the tech world have already lost the war without ever firing a single serious, credible shot in anger.

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