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HP, Lenovo join Dell in extending Windows XP

By | April 26, 2008, 5:39am PDT

Rumors of Windows XP’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.

I wrote about Dell’s downgrade program in a post earlier this week (Windows Vista just can’t catch a break). It looks like Dell may have started something. Both HP and Lenovo now plan to offer Windows XP to business customers after Microsoft’s official cut-off date of June 30.

Lenovo will provide a Windows XP recovery disc with systems so that users can downgrade from Windows Vista until January 31, 2009, according to Information Week. The downgrade program covers laptops and desktops with Vista Business or Ultimate.
HP said it will offer Windows XP to business customers for an unspecified time beyond June 30.

Dell’s program covers OptiPlex desktops and laptops, Latitude laptops, and Precision workstations. Those systems come with Windows XP pre-installed but include a copy of Vista Business or Ultimate so customers can upgrade when they are ready. The Vostro desktops and laptops for small and medium-size businesses, and some XPS gaming systems, will also continue to offer the downgrade service for a fee.

Though it has been widely reported that the Dell downgrade option would be good through 2010, (when Microsoft is set to release Windows 7) Dell now says the program will last as long as “Microsoft supports it,” according to Information Week.

This comes after CEO Steve Ballmer suggested earlier this week that Microsoft might change its mind and extend Windows XP if customers asked for it. But he said the majority of new systems ship with Vista, and so far they haven’t seen customers asking for Windows XP.

Not everyone is convinced. Microsoft reported quarterly earnings on Thursday and revenues in the client division fell a little short, which The New York Times’ Steve Lohr writes could be a sign the company has a problem with Vista. Meanwhile InfoWorld Editor-in-Chief Eric Knorr has collected more than 160,000 signatures for his Save Windows XP petition (complete with countdown clock).

Microsoft has already announced that Windows XP will continue to be available specifically for ultra low-cost systems that do not meet the system requirements for Vista.

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John Morris is a former executive editor at CNET Networks and senior editor at PC Magazine.

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Talkback Most Recent of 28 Talkback(s)

  • If customers want Windows XP then continue...
    ...selling it to them. But raise the price above Vista and I'm willing to bet all of a sudden many people will no longer want it.
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    ye
    26th Apr 2008
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    STARTWYNKLES
    28th Apr 2008
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    ye
    28th Apr 2008
  • Not sure that is true
    It would depend on how much it would cost businesses to shift their computing needs to Vista. As of now there are a lot of applications that just do not work on Vista. There are also a lot of companies, particularly in a downturn in the economy who choose not to upgrade their computers to have the power to even run Vista at all while these same companies are already running XP very satisfactorily. Why go to all the trouble of changing to something when you are doing well with what you have and you have a lot of other places in the companies that need money more. Makes no sense from a company standpoint to do that. And if Windows does stop with the XP and the companies find another way to keep it working securely and well, then screw Vista - stick with XP even if you have to run it with Wine or some other way.

    The days when a company will change all the computers at once are over for now and unless they are all changed then Vista would be a bad choice for a company to make.
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    rhomp2002@...
    25th Jun 2008
  • Easy fix to make Xp better
    There is one easy fix that MS could have make to make Xp better than vista: Allow a simultaneous RDP login.

    That way people could run as normal users and then switch to an admin RDP session window if they need to install software or whatever.

    Ironically XP could have done that from day one if MS would stop being so pathologically obsessed about charging for remote desktop features.

    That would single handedly deal with Vista's supposed security advantage.
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    croberts
    26th Apr 2008
  • The problem is not installing software it...
    ...is running the software. A lot of programs assume the user has administrative rights and would fail to run if they did not. Your solution doesn't appear to address that issue.
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    ye
    26th Apr 2008
  • On using proper terminology....
    Question: If so many customers are opting to convert their machine's OS from Vista to XP, why is it considered a downgrade? I ordered a brand new pc in November that came with a Vista Business license, but I exercise my option to UPgrade to XP Pro.
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    MGP2
    26th Apr 2008
  • Do you think you're being original?
    " I ordered a brand new pc in November that came with a Vista Business license, but I exercise my option to UPgrade to XP Pro."

    We've never heard that one before. Sheesh.
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    ye
    26th Apr 2008
  • You must not have been around very much
    I've heard that statement all the time.
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    hasta la Vista, bah-bie
    29th Apr 2008
  • Beleagured Microsoft
    MS Windows is going down. What compelling choices for
    their customers, the anicient and insecure XP, or the chrome
    plated turd that is Vista, with nothing to replace them for
    years. Ouch.
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    Monkeypox
    26th Apr 2008
  • Really? Don't you find it interesting
    that they are "extending XP"?.
    They're not selling up Linux in any distro, but instead continuing to sell XP.

    As in people want Windows.

    Sure doesn't sound like "Windows is going down".
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    AllKnowingAllSeeing
    27th Apr 2008
  • RE: HP, Lenovo join Dell in extending Windows XP
    I wish companies and bloggers would stop calling the move from Vista to XP a "downgrade". My customers come in and want me to remove Vista and install XP as an UPGRADE!

    Vista is selling well because most consumers have no idea they have a choice between XP and Vista because the majors push Vista and don't tell customers they can request XP!
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    computerlogic
    26th Apr 2008
  • Another poster who thinks he's being original.
    "My customers come in and want me to remove Vista and install XP as an UPGRADE!"

    My question to you is, if you really believe this, why are you being irresponsible and selling them systems with Vista instead of XP?
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    ye
    26th Apr 2008
  • And yet another one
    whose "customers" all run in and want to "switch back over to XP". wink
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    AllKnowingAllSeeing
    27th Apr 2008
  • And MS laughs all the way to the bank
    I'm betting none of those customers got the money they spent on Vista back though?
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    theoxygenthief
    27th Apr 2008

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