Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

Summary: Looking for an alternative to the new Mac Mini? Shuttle is introducing one that's similarly svelte, plus features the latest in -- well, let's be honest -- netbook technology.

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Looking for an alternative to the new Mac Mini? Shuttle is introducing one that's similarly svelte, plus features the latest in -- well, let's be honest -- netbook technology.

That's not a slight, as Shuttle is clearly promoting the new X350 as a living room PC that provides more performance than its predecessors. Considering most of those home theater "nettops" came with an older, single-core Intel Atom processor and integrated graphics, the X350's updated hardware should provide the promised boost. In addition to the new dual-core Atom D510 CPU, the desktop features Nvidia's Ion graphics technology, which may not let you play Crysis at anything but the lowest settings (if that) but can help with any HD video playback.

The company has managed to reduce the X350's footprint by a third from its X100 and X200 ancestors, with its 1.5-inch height a mere tenth of an inch more than the new Mac Mini. Like the Mini, it can still squeeze in a DVD burner, though it's unclear if it will be offered with a Blu-ray option. (The Mini does not.) Fortunately, we won't have long to wait to find out, as the system will be available to order on the Shuttle Web site this week. We'll presumably learn more about the pricing of the X350 as well, since Shuttle hasn't disclosed any details yet.

Topics: Mobility, Hardware, Processors

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  • Actually, a dual core Arm running Chrome OS would be a better option.

    NT
    DonnieBoy
    • RE: Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

      @DonnieBoy No. That would be a piece of trash. Chrome OS is going to suck, only being able to run a web browser is useless. And what would be the point of a home theater PC that can't actually play anything other than low quality embedded website Videos. NT.
      Jimster480
      • In 10 Years You'll All Be Using Chrome OS!

        @Jimster480 So just remember Murphy's law when you spout your trash talking ignorance about something that isn't even out yet! ;)
        i2fun@...
  • Can we have some benchmarks?

    X350: 1.66GHz dual-core Intel Atom D510 CPU
    Mini: 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor

    X350: runs Windows and Linux
    Mini: runs Mac OS X and Windows and Linux
    davebarnes
    • Ah yes, the old "it runs more so it is better" argument

      @davebarnes
      [i]X350: runs Windows and Linux
      Mini: runs Mac OS X and Windows and Linux [/i]

      Using that exact same logic, you should never run OS X.
      OS X: runs iTunes
      Windows: runs iTunes and Zune

      Therefore, Windows is better than OS X. And if you say you don't want to run Zune... well... you know what the reply will be. :)
      NonZealot
    • While Apple Only Plays with Themselves! haha...

      @davebarnes That's because Linux = Truly Open while Windows = Open so it at least runs on most any platform hardware and..... then we have Mac OS-X = Arrogant Snobbish Dead OS Walking by itself only on it's on hardware. Not any different than what stuck them in the basement of Operating Systems years ago. Oh yeah even Microsoft is more afraid of Linux than OS-X. Linux really being on twice the machines of that inferior basement crawling OS! :D

      http://www.neowin.net/news/linux-is-more-of-a-threat-than-apple-says-ballmer

      Apple's too stuck up from smelling their arse farts to take a chance of OS-X crashing on other's hardware. What's the latest for OS-X? ...well it runs for crap on Intel's i7 iMac with it's broken screens out of box or it simply refuses to boot. The problem? Apple blames the i7 chip or Seagate hard drives. What's new? ...just like they always blame others.

      You know... like blaming AT&T for their dropped calls, while they tout their new antenna change. Why did they change it, if it was so great? lol.. Especially since their phones drop calls on any 3G network their on. While they then blame Intel for their own instruction sets and ultra ridiculous security feature Apple had them embed on their i7 chips. That just to keep OS-X from running on standard Intel i7 processors! .....so the chip kills the system if it even thinks you're booting any code Apple didn't program it to run!

      This includes quirks with FLASH... Adobe PDF's (that Jobs said in 2003 WWDC is what OS-X was built on), you name it, it's never Apple's fault!

      So let them play with just themselves, behind their own closed locked banned and barred Garden Walls and Lame Brained Selfish Snob Appeal only OS!!!
      i2fun@...
  • the Mini is still much better

    it better be cheap... the Mac Mini has a much faster CPU and a much faster IGP
    doh123
    • How fast does it need to be?

      @doh123
      You aren't going to do any serious work on any of these computers, they simply aren't powerful enough, not even the Mac Mini. So as long as your computer is powerful enough (and the X350 is), those extra megahertz are simply going to waste. And that is what the Mini is: a waste.
      NonZealot
      • How fast does a computer need to be to do serious work?

        @NonZealot A computer that has at least a 2.4ghz Core Duo 2 with 2 Gb of ram isn't powerful enough to do serious work? <br><br>I would be willing to bet that a lot of work place computers would not match those specs yet they do "serious work" <br><br>Maybe you should change your name from NonZealot to Performance Zealot <img border="0" src="http://www.cnet.com/i/mb/emoticons/wink.gif" alt="wink">
        David Turner
      • Indeed...

        @Dave Turner
        How EVER did we get along before the era of GHz anyhow? Seems to me I can recall using systems with 12 MHz 286 chips that ran serious apps fairly well.

        OK.. There was a LOT less overhead - not much of a grapical interface, no Internet, mosstly command line driven stuff, but hey, we got the job done somehow.
        Wolfie2K3
      • Perhaps a poor choice of words

        @NonZealot
        "Intensive" would have been a better word and was the meaning I was going for. You are absolutely right, "serious" work could easily be performed on a 1.6GHz Atom processor running Windows 7. Makes the Mini look even worse when you put it that way. :)
        NonZealot
  • It needs blu ray

    The mini is a superior machine, but if it includes a blu ray option, it will rule for anyone wanting it entirely for their HD entertainment console.
    RedVeg
  • Better be cheaper with Blu-ray included to have a chance...

    The Mini is a better core computer on paper, but it's expensive to use for a living room PC that doesn't even have a Blu-ray drive. Buying an external Blu-ray makes it even more expensive.

    The only hope this Shuttle has of being a better choice is if it is cheaper AND includes Blu-ray playback. It will be interesting to see the specs and pricing.
    BillDem
  • Bluray

    if it comes with a bluray option then it will win alot of people over. Personally for me or my parents we could care less. I can just download movies in 1080p for myself or in standard def for them. There are enough virtual subscriptions now that Optical drives are basically worthless.
    Jimster480
  • RE: Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom

    Apple's biggest weakness has always been its "as is" mentality. Say upgrade to Apple and they will point at a new computer. They need a line that is aimed directly at the upgrade crowd. That means everything it means in the PC world. I want one.
    trm1945
    • Shocking news!

      @trm1945 -- I hate to be the one to break it to you, but...Apple does not and will not "aim directly at the upgrade crowd." Given their current success, it seems unlikely they will change their business model, just to attempt to pick up a few new customers from the demographic you describe: very price conscious, insists on "messing under the hood", likely to change enough components to impact the closely integrated "user experience" that is Apple. It's just not happening. Enjoy all the choices you have in the PC world. :)
      frabjous
  • RE: Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

    This article is stupid anyways. How can you compare a Core 2 Duo system with a Atom dual core? The price for a Mac mini is outrageous!! I think the competition you may be speaking of is price maybe?? Because with a system coming from Shuttle, that Atom system will be too expensive! I can put together a good Atom system for about $350 including OS. At that price it should outsell a Mac mini. With Shuttle involved and their overpricing, they'll probably sell for $550 and say at least we are cheaper than a mac mini.
    SteelTrepid
    • So--

      @SteelTrepid As I always say, if the features and price of a device don't suit you, don't buy it. Have fun putting together whatever you like--but that is the last thing I want to do, and millions of others like me.
      frabjous
    • RE: Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

      @SteelTrepid

      There's a lot that the X350 offers for $399 COMPLETE, that will not be found in a "good Atom system for about $350" you build yourself.

      If for that comparison you are looking to put together the least expensive motherboard, case, power supply, and components you can find, it's not really the appropriate comparison.

      Shuttle quality speaks for itself - the outside finish is flawless, the insides (e.g. thermals) are meticulously designed so that it CAN be completely fanless, and it's really a great piece of engineering that even Intel gives us props for :)
      JaniceAtShuttle
  • RE: Mac Mini competition? Shuttle's ultra-slim X350 PC packs dual-core Atom D510 CPU, Nvidia Ion graphics

    It supports Blu-ray though the option is not OFFICIALLY available just yet: http://us.shuttle.com/news.aspx
    JaniceAtShuttle