Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

Summary: In theory, there's no reason you can't run Apple's OS X on non-Apple hardware, since Macs are using the same Intel processors as many PCs do. But actually finding someone who will sell you a computer running OS X who doesn't have Steve Jobs for a boss is quite a challenge, in no small part thanks to Apple's zealous legal team.

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In theory, there's no reason you can't run Apple's OS X on non-Apple hardware, since Macs are using the same Intel processors as many PCs do. But actually finding someone who will sell you a computer running OS X who doesn't have Steve Jobs for a boss is quite a challenge, in no small part thanks to Apple's zealous legal team.

So it's always news when a company tempts fate and starts selling systems that advertise OS X support, which is what Quo Computers is attempting with the maxQ2. Hardware-wise, Quo's performance desktop will compete with the Mac Pro with an Intel Core i7 six-core processor, 12GB of RAM, both SSD and hard drives, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 graphics card. While you might do a little better specs-wise with Apple's own computer, Quo does offer something that the Mac Pro won't: liquid cooling.

If you're a regular reader, you may recall a recent post about Asetek retrofitting a Mac Pro with its liquid cooling hardware -- now we have a better idea why it was tackling that project: The maxQ2 comes standard with Asetek's liquid cooling system. Asetek's Mac Pro experiment revealed that liquid cooling might not be significantly more effective at battling heat than Apple's air cooling, but it is a lot quieter.

Not surprisingly, you're paying an extra premium for the liquid cooling: The desktop will run $3,765 when it becomes available on September 15. Still, Quo will tell you the biggest selling point is the maxQ2's ability to run OS X, Linux, and Windows 7 natively -- though it's unclear if they will all be pre-installed. Also unclear is whether Quo will run into any legal troubles from Apple. FWIW, you can't order from the company directly on its Web site, which suggests you either need to call Quo or go to its Alhambra, California store in order to buy a system. That is, if you would ever buy a computer that runs OS X but doesn't come from Apple.

[Via Engadget]

Topics: Linux, Apple, Microsoft, Open Source, Operating Systems, Software, Windows

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  • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

    "<i>In theory, theres no reason you cant run Apples OS X on non-Apple hardware...</i>"<br><br>In practice there is a good reason why you can't. Apple uses DRM to lock OS X to their own hardware.
    Qbt
    • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

      @Qbt Not entirely true. They write the drivers for their ahrdware, but there is this wonderful thing called a Hackintosh...buy your own hardware and put it together for cheaper then what you'd buy from Apple. There are a few tweeks to make but that's mainly for code compatability.
      whitetigersx
      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

        @whitetigersx

        Which, there is no reason why Apple should be able to keep their OS 'locked' to their own hardware. It's the epitome of 'monopoly' there, and Microsoft was bashed upon for something similar at one time.
        Lerianis10
      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

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      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

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  • That Probably Has Nothing To Do With apple's Reasons...

    their motive is probably more in line with not wanting to support their OS, when there are more than two versions of hardware. MS probably spends millions of dollars every year, supporting systems that are having hardware driver problems.
    This is also obvious in apple's iPhone and iPod practices of prohibiting software that hasn't been blessed by them.
    Steve@...
  • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

    people have used hacks to make it work; the track record of companies pre-installing it on their systems for sale has not been good.
    seanportnoy
  • Apple forgot out the enthusiast

    I miss the old "open" Apple. Jobs has finesse, but given how "closed" the company is, I'll never buy from them again. Apple was for the enthusiast, now they're about marketing, patents, spin, lawsuits, and intellectual property (to protect the company, not the people). I'm not saying that Apple is alone on this front, but they are a poster-child.
    sys_engineer
  • Recent rulings might help them survive Apple's lawyers...

    There was a ruling in the past month that said it is perfectly legal to jail-break iPhones. This has some bearing in that iOS is modified in the process of jail-breaking despite the EULA saying you aren't allowed to modify it. A patched version of OS X will likely be viewed in the same way, considering it is available for sale on store shelves.

    On the other hand, I don't think they will be allowed to sell OS X pre-installed. They may have to ship it separately and have the user install it using a custom utility.
    BillDem
    • Here is why it won't happen.

      @BillDem Apple has great big piles of cash laying around that it can use to pay lawyers to drag a case through the courts for as long as it wants to. The companies such as Quo that want to sell Mac clones are small and will quickly face oblivion due to legal costs. Even larger players like Dell or HP are not in a position to compete with Apple in the court room.

      Jail breaking phones was basically something they didn't fight too hard because legal or not, few people are going to do it (at least as a percentage of total iPhone users). But if Quo or a similar company won such a contest, shortly thereafter every small computer assembler on the planet would be offering an OSX system.
      cornpie
      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

        @cornpie

        Oh I don't know if there's anything Apple can do about it, IF the company doesn't pre-load OS X. There's no law against selling the software... or the Hardware. It's when you combine the two that Apple gets all up in arms. If the consumer is doing the combining, Apple may not be able to do anything about it.
        Badgered
      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

        @cornpie

        Another thing is that jailbroken phones do eventually need updates and Apple can and does send updates that brick jailbroken phones.
        Rick_R
      • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

        @cornpie Ugh. Who sells more computers: HP or Apple?
        jgoode@...
  • Less for More?

    So, let me get this right. As an Mac user I get razzed by people on this site who claim that I pay an "Apple Tax", and now this article celebrates paying [b]more $$[/b] for non-Apple system that is lacking "...specs-wise..." compared to Mac? Oh boy I'm confused.

    And, I don't think Apple cares/can do anything about any hardware maker that simply advertizes compatibility with OS X. The problem is support. If there is a driver problem, or any problem with the OS, Apple won't support you - they don't have to, and the EUL protects them. And the HW maker [i]can't[/i] support you efficiently because they don't have access to the OS code and to Apple's database of problem/solutions.

    I think it's the simple fact that the HW maker can't properly support their customers that has kept companies like Dell from simply offering an OS X compatible system. Too much of a bag of hurt.
    snberk341
    • Paying more just for liquid cooling?

      @snberk341 - I agree... More money just for liquid cooling is not a deal maker for me.
      esdrasf@...
    • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

      @snberk341 You can' download Darwin for free - it's based off of BSD and Mach. Just not worth much without the proprietary GUI on top of it.
      whitetigersx
      • Not sure I follow you.... (nt)

        @whitetigersx nt
        snberk341
  • RE: Quo Computers' liquid-cooled Core i7 maxQ2 runs OS X, Linux, Windows 7 ... until Apple says otherwise

    If you are texting a friend I can understand using FWIW, but when writing an article that I presume you are being paid to write, spend a couple of extra seconds writing the whole thing out properly so we don't have to translate it ourselves...IMHO
    jokayhn
    • FWIW

      @jokayhn
      For what it is worth, I agree with you. I'm so far out of the loop (no texting experience) that I had to look it up.
      cwallen19803@...
  • Follow the money

    Apple makes big money on hardware sales. Why should they allow other computers to run an OS that they charge very little for?
    Monkeypox