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Vendors Who Get The Social Thing - Oh, And I've Ordered An iPad

By | March 15, 2010, 3:37am PDT

Summary: First Things First I ordered an iPad last Friday right after Apple finished updating their site so that I could.  Just to set the record straight, I’m not a fanboy though I have 2 iMacs, an iPhone and a Macbook Pro 13″ with a solid state drive. But, then again, I’m writing this post on a [...]

First Things First

I ordered an iPad last Friday right after Apple finished updating their site so that I could.  Just to set the record straight, I’m not a fanboy though I have 2 iMacs, an iPhone and a Macbook Pro 13″ with a solid state drive. But, then again, I’m writing this post on a quadcore HP PC and I’m totally happy with it and with….with…..fanboys lay off me….Windows 7 Ultimate. Yes, I LIKE Windows 7 Ultimate.

Even though the iPad has limited functionality, it’s got enough to handle netbookish stuff that I have to do and its just so cool as an entertainment media/web browsing device that I gotsta have it. What drives it, as well as what drives the iPhone isn’t just the Jetson-like look it has but the software that’s being made available. If I’m to be ruthlessly honest with myself, I’m buying it to watch the Yankees when I travel on a really good screen using the MLB app that’s being developed for the iPad.   The business appeal is use of Keynote for presentations so that I can do the Madden draw thing on the presentations among other things. Hey, given how many I give, I need to be entertained by my presenting too.

In any case, its now ordered and I’ll have it on April 3.  Watch for my review. (Update: I got the 64gb version with VGA connector for presentations. Will get other accessories later and case from someone else. TIp: Use the Verizon MIFi or Sprint equivalent as a substitute for 3G from AT&T. Will save you $130 plus no need for new AT&T data plan)

Now to the Meat

Michael Krigsman’s enthusiastic post about Oracle CRM Senior Director Steve Diamond’s response to his post on Six Ways CRM Projects Go Wrong got me thinking even further about vendors then I have in my post on PGreenblog last week…well, rant on PGreenblog, anyway.  Often I hear people talking about vendors that they think do things wrong or vendors who should eat their own dog food.  But what they mean by the latter is usually use their own software - which is a ridiculous criterion as far as I’m concerned.  For example, why should a small company that is developing software for the enterprise be “obligated” by the powers-that-be to use that software?  They’re not an enterprise. It doesn’t indicate a lack of understanding to not use it.

But there is something that vendors could do that would be beneficial to them and at the same time benefit the market and the practitioners who are interested in them.  That would be do something in the world of thought leadership - where the representatives of the vendors could do fair, honest, agnostic assessments and presentations of idea and participate in the debate, discussion, conversation, whatever you feel like calling it without pushing their agenda in the face of people - meaning without traditional marketing approaches.

This is a subtle art.  Thought leadership is based on ideas propagated into the marketplace. I thought I’d look at a few of the vendors here that are doing it right and should be applauded for this - maybe not for other things in some cases - but for this.  I have 3 in mind who’s agnostic approach to thought leadership in some areas is actually refreshing enough to make you want to go “Yeaaahh. That’s what I’m talkin’ about.”

Forecasting Clouds - Chris Bucholz - Aplicor

For those of you who don’t know Chris Bucholz, you should.  He was a superstar at InsideCRM, one of the most astute writers in the industry and funny as hell too.  He is now at Aplicor doing Forecasting Clouds and remains not only a superstar and astute, but funny as hell.

The idea behind Forecasting Clouds is that it operates as a daily for the most part agnostic aggregator pulling the best of….from blogs all over the ether and additionally providing original content written by Chris and other contributors.  The aggregation of articles and the original content is all great stuff aimed in and around thought leadership.  The one place where the agnosticism fails is understandable. You don’t find competitive vendor’s content or discussions about competitive vendors (or any vendors) from independent bloggers.  I think I’d loosen that up a little bit but maybe not totally. The independent bloggers takes on some of the vendors stuff is valuable - but I’ll understand if they don’t.

CRM Outsider - Martin Schneider - SugarCRM

Martin Schneider, before SugarCRM, worked for the 451 Group as a brilliant analyst.  Now he’s at SugarCRM and guess what? He’s taken his analyst skills and honed them into a Sugar-compliant message but one that remains subtle and valuable.

Why is that? Because in the CRM Outsider - a blog that SugarCRM lets him write with freedom - he takes on important issues and muses about important subjects.  That could range from a post on Trust v. Attention as the Prime Currency of the Social CRM Economy to a guest post by Mitch Lieberman, VP of SugarCRM and thinker extraordinare on The Consumerization of the Enterprise, where Mitch suggested in a positive way that he and Marc Benioff agreed on something.

There is a lot of SugarCRM direct content marbled throughout the weeks of blog postings but it is a vendor’s blog. Martin is savvy enough to keep the thought leadership separate from the marketing which makes for a really excellent blog.

Using External Sources - Varying Folks - SAP

I can’t say that SAP has a blog that is visible to world as an SAP blog. But what they do artfully is to utilize external properties such as The Customer Collective, The Social Customer and Social Media Today, all part of Robin Carey’s social media bag of goodies to not only do their own blogging on subjects that are thought leader worthy like this post from Peter Auditore, one of the jefes of the SAP Business Influencer Group on “I am a Social Customer” in January on The Social Customer. But by supporting the sites they support the thinking of key other influencers without being obtrusive so that instead, they are genuinely helpful.   Could they do other things that might be valuable in an agnostic way.  Probably take a lesson from Martin Schneider in particular.  But what they got going is someone and more so than most.

So kudos to those three vendors. They are the best exceptions to a fast decaying rule - that vendors must produce collateral. They can produce thoughts of value too and in the case of these three vendors, they are each uniquely doing it right.

I’d love to show you all of this on my iPad.  Damn. Three more weeks.  And even better, the baseball season opens the next night - Yankees v. Red Sox. Now, I can watch it on my 65″ screen, AND my iPad.  Just kidding…maybe

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In addition to being the author of the best-selling "CRM at the Speed of Light: Social CRM Strategies, Tools, and Techniques for Engaging Your Customers," Paul Greenberg is President of The 56 Group, LLC.

Disclosure

Paul Greenberg

Paul Greenberg has no investments in any firms that have CRM related or enterprise related applications or solutions, nor does he have any investments in any stock or other form of ownership in a consulting firms that does any form of enterprise application consulting or CRM consulting. However, at one time or another Paul has had almost all the significant CRM vendors as clients performing services as a consultant who would view and review and suggest product enhancements, changes or suggest how to cure product deficiencies; possible engagements to suggest go to market strategies for each company as they launched a new CRM solution. He has been engaged as a speaker at public events by these companies covering a mutually agreed upon topic and has written white papers sponsored by the vendors - which have no mention of the vendor and do not endorse the vendor�s products- but instead are based around thought leadership and ideas. None of these engagements whether they are consulting or works for hire, ever has impacted Paul�s thinking good or bad, on any of these companies. Paul is in fact known for his honest straightforward public assessments of these companies. They are not immune to his public critique even when they are clients. When it is germane, Paul will disclose his relationship, if any, to a company that he might be writing about in either a positive or negative way.

Biography

Paul Greenberg

In addition to being the author of the best-selling CRM at the Speed of Light: Social CRM Strategies, Tools, and Techniques for Engaging Your Customers" Paul Greenberg is President of The 56 Group, LLC, a customer strategy consulting firm, focused on cutting edge CRM strategic services and a founding partner of the CRM training company, BPT Partners, LLC, a training and consulting venture composed of a number of CRM luminaries that has quickly become the authority for the CRM industry.

His book, CRM at the Speed of Light: Essential Customer Strategies for the 21st Century, now in its fourth edition, is in 8 languages and been called "the bible of the CRM industry". It is used by more than 70 universities as a primary text. It was named "the number 1 CRM book" by SearchCRM.com in 2002 and is one of two books recommended by CustomerThink. The Asian edition of CIO Magazine named it one of the 12 most important books an Asian CEO will ever read. Paul has also authored two other books including "E-Government for Public Officials" (Thompson Publishing, 2003).

Paul is also the Chairman of the Advisory Committee of the University of Toronto's Rotman School of Management CRM Centre of Excellence, and the Executive Vice President of the CRM Association.

Paul is considered a thought leader in CRM, having been published in numerous industry and business publications over the years and having traveled the world speaking on cutting edge CRM and topics geared to the contemporary social customer. He has been called "the godfather of CRM", the "Walt Whitman of CRM" and even "the Bob Dylan of CRM" by analysts and organizations throughout the industry. He is known particularly for his work on the use of social media, such as blogs, podcasts and wikis and social networks/communities in CRM as tools and channels for customer collaboration with a company. He is seen often as the "voice of the customer" and is well known within the CRM industry for this work. His blog, PGreenblog has been named the #1 CRM blog every year from 2005-2010 by all industry award providers. He also has a podcast, Experience on the Edge, that has garnered a myriad of industry kudos and his collaboration with Brent Leary on the always funny, often cutting, CRM Playaz" is the most popular broadcast in the CRM world.

Paul was also named one of the most influential people in CRM by CRM Magazine in August 2008. In 2010, he was inducted into CRM Magazine's CRM Hall of Fame.

He is a member of the Destination CRM Board of Experts and the SearchCRM Expert Advisory Panel as well as a member of the Board of Advisors for GreaterChinaCRM for many years. He also sits on the Board of Advisors of the CIE Institute and and multiple other companies.

Currently, Paul lives in Manassas, Virginia with his wife and five cats. To reach Paul, please email him at paul-greenberg3@the56group.com. You can follow him at Twitter or join up with him on LinkedIn or Facebook.

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RE: Vendors Who Get The Social Thing - Oh, And I've Ordered An iPad
jordanholland23 18th Oct
This is great!

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Amen RE: Martin & Chris
socialprise 15th Mar 2010
You're right on the money, Paul.

Martin and Chris are both excellent writers (former analysts tend to be!) that produce great thought leadership pieces for their readership while keeping any self-promotional commentary well below the "shameless" threshold. It ain't easy, and it's a true service both to their readers/followers and to the vendors for whom they work. Let's all drink a toast to credibility!

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ipad = Classic Epic Fail
gtatransam@... 16th Mar 2010
Why the ipad is an Epic Fail:

1. 1024x768 = No Widescreen ? SVGA has been out of date for quite a few years now.

2. No Multi-tasking. What ? Seriously ?

3. No Flash Support. This is the real deal killer. Try going to youtube or COUNTLESS other sites without flash...

4. You have to use itunes. It is only the WORST program in the history of programming. There's no way I'd ever put that on my computer.

5. ATT Network (Need I say more?)
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YAWWWNNN!!!
webmaster@... 17th Mar 2010
1. Strawman. Won't affect performance in the slightest.

2. Strawman. Why do you need more than one App running at a time
(Oh and itd does multitask, just no 3rd party background apps for
security).

3. No Flash. Deal decider for LOTS of peoaple. Another strawman.

4.Pathetic and prejudiced, one mans meat is another's poison et c.
Strawman again.

4. It's open to whomever you as a user whant to use, no contratcs.
Strawman and FUD!

Well done, you manage to say absolutely nothing.
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Just like the iPhone? (NT)
Ken_z 17th Mar 2010
NT.
This is great!

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