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Christopher Dawson

HP brings workstation-class PCs to a thin client world

By | April 13, 2011, 12:48pm PDT

Summary: I’ve been preaching the thin client gospel for a long time, but HPs new entry-level workstations make an easy choice for media, science, and engineering labs in K12 and higher education settings.

Just the other day, I was talking with a science teacher who was bemoaning the underpowered thin clients in her school. She felt hobbled by them and was talking about some of the simulations and 3D visualizations that she couldn’t do with her students because of them. Enter HPs new Z210 workstations.

Most of us in ed tech have heard the siren song of thin clients. There are lots of ways to go about thin computing, some better suited to certain applications than others. There are virtualization options, PC over IP, remote desktops, you name it. But unless you invest in PCoIP or an extremely robust virtualized setup with one heck of a network infrastructure to go with it, there will be compromises. Sure, the average remote desktop, simple desktop streaming, or low-end VDI solution is relatively inexpensive, very easy to manage, and easier to set up than an old-school computer lab. The computer and networking hardware required to simulate the desktop experience are often prohibitively expensive for schools.

Which leads too many schools to eschew thin clients completely when, in fact, they can be a considerable source of cost savings. On the other hand, there are simply applications in both K12 and higher ed settings that beg for some desktop horsepower. Photoshop, CAD, video editing, and mathematical modeling are only a few of the applications that will happily eat up whatever hardware you throw at them.

In response to this need, HP introduced the Z210 yesterday in convertible mini-tower and highly compact small form factors, calling them “ideal for use in education.” I have to say that I agree. Obviously you don’t need a workstation on every desk. But a lab or two of these compact, low-power-consumption, expandable, high-performance desktops can be had at fairly reasonable prices. In part, this is enabled by Intel’s new Xeon E3 processors and P3000.3 HD graphics embedded chips. The latter gives schools access to considerable 3D power at a much lower cost than discrete cards (although the systems can be expanded with discrete cards as needed).

The small form factor, in particular, will fit nicely into the space constrained setting of the average school computer lab or classroom. While HP has set pricing starting at $569, expect the Xeon E3, discrete graphics cards, and bumped up RAM to increase the price considerably (options pricing isn’t available at this time). However, with pricing competitive with well-optioned PCs, latest generation Intel chips, and native 3D performance (not to mention highly usable form factors), the HP workstations should be on your short list for computer refreshes this summer. In fact, this is about as thin as you can get and still have certified workstation performance.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.
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RE: HP brings workstation-class PCs to a thin client world
ascheibner Updated - 14th Apr 2011
By the time you get done upgrading the thin client box and the backend to be able to run the Adobe software suite (or similiar high resource software) this type of solution will be a lot more expensive. You are better off buying local dual/quad workstatiions.
I dunno about calling them Workstations PCs, I would hardly call an Intel Core I3 a Workstation processor. And by the time you bump it up to Workstation class components, I wonder how much the final tab will be.
@Rick_K,
Maybe you don't have clear what a workstation is. If your criteria for a workstation is hardware specifications, you are wrong. That's only part of what a workstation is. For example, workstations are ISV certified for MCAD and DME applications, something a standard PC don't have, even though it could have better specs. Here is more info...

http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/us/en/mcad-isv-certification.html
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/hpsub/us/en/dme-isv-certification.html?jumpid=www.hp.com/go/dmecertification
Except as servers, workstations in schools do not need the more-expensive Xeon processors in multiple-CPU units, as Mr Dawson might have preferred.

Whilst Rick_K above objected to the i3 processor in these HP Z210's as being weak, there is really nothing wrong with that when the system is committed to focused tasks, such as CAD or 3D rendering, and has the sufficient complement of RAM, discrete graphic and storage to meet workstation standards.

Public K-12 schools and colleges are known for their ever-dwindling budgets, and if they can acquire these entry-level machines at a good deal, so much the better.
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johnfenjackson@... 14th Apr 2011
The Z210 does indeed look promising but ...
"Expect the Xeon E3, discrete graphics cards, and bumped up RAM to increase the price considerably (options pricing isn?t available at this time)."
... means you have absolutley no idea whether your recommendation is sound. Please update when pricing is released and compare to, say, an equivalent DELL VOSTRO 460.

"... science teacher who was bemoaning the underpowered thin clients in her school. She felt hobbled by them and was talking about some of the simulations and 3D visualizations that she couldn?t do with her students because of them."
Where did the tests of RemoteFX and the like fail to meet expectations?

Note, I am on your side and like the idea of a cheap workstation class machine (I think HP have some interesting new ideas: I have two HP Microservers at home) ... but the price will be the make or break for the deal.
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By the time you get done upgrading the thin client box and the backend to be able to run the Adobe software suite (or similiar high resource software) this type of solution will be a lot more expensive. You are better off buying local dual/quad workstatiions.

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