Is Snow Leopard worth it in Ed?

Summary: My own feelings on Apple aside, many of us have a significant investment in Apple technology. Friday marks an important upgrade to OS X with some analysts expecting 5 million upgrades to sell by the end of September. These numbers are all well and good, but the real question is "Should we bother upgrading in Ed Tech?"

My own feelings on Apple aside, many of us have a significant investment in Apple technology. According to Ars Technica, Apple analysts are expecting the company to move 5 million upgrades to its OS by the end of September; Ars thinks this is actually pretty conservative. These numbers are all well and good, but the real question is "Should we bother upgrading in Ed Tech?"

The Apple Educational Store is currently showing $49 upgrades for volume licenses, but the Ars article makes reference to $29 upgrades. Regardless, the price is fairly low and the new features are arguably important in an educational setting:

If anything, at least an upgrade to Snow Leopard Server seems to make sense. Improved 64-bit support and simplified administrator for only $175 is a bargain for schools that rely on Apples in the server room. It's a bit harder to justify in the computer lab, though. Even at the $29 upgrade price, will students see enough benefit to justify three grand for 100 of your computers? The cost adds up quickly and smartboard prices are coming down. I can think of other things to buy.

To be honest, Macs are pretty speedy as it is. The improvements seem great for geeks and, to be honest, I'm probably going to upgrade my own Mac. But for the average classroom app? The exception, obviously, is with the new accessibility features. For visually-impaired students in particular, Snow Leopard may be actually worth buying a Mac, let alone upgrading an existing machine.

Maybe I'm just cheap. I'm not planning to upgrade my Vista or XP machines to 7 either, despite the fact that I think Windows 7 is a real improvement over both. I just feel like the upgrade money could be spent on easy infrastructure or classroom technology upgrades. What do you think?

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Topics: Apple, CXO, Microsoft, Windows

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  • #FAIL

    Apple is very Fail in last 2 Year,
    bye bye OSX now i get a Windows 7
    dovella@...
    • @dovella

      What you talking about dovella?
      jgpmolloy
      • I don't think he knows

        If his ability to use a computer is as good as his English then he won't
        even know what he is missing by going to Windows.

        BTW, I am not being racist. If someone can't speak or write English
        properly, then they shouldn't be in a English talkback post.

        I stick to English-based web sites because that I what I speak best.
        rahbm
    • Where has Apple failed in the last 2 years?!

      What is it Apple have failed at in the last two years? As far as I can see
      these last two years have been very kind to Apple. Mac OS X is highly
      regarded, Apple's iWork has seen significant updates and the
      iPhone/App Store is a runaway success. While on the Microsoft side,
      Windows Vista has gained little market success, and users generally
      avoid it. Microsoft Office's new UI has been less than universally
      welcomed. Probably best if we don't even mention Windows Mobile.

      Now things might finally be looking up for Microsoft, Windows 7 has
      many admirers, Office 2010 has both the ribbon throughout and the
      ability to go back to "classic menus" (so probably this will keep
      everyone happy). I won't spoil it by harping on about Windows Mobile.

      This version of Mac OS X lays significant groundwork for the future of
      Mac OS X, and applications that run on Mac OS X. If you look at the UI
      changes this is a "meh" upgrade. If you look at the improvements to
      speed, security (already good on Mac OS X) and support for Exchange
      or "Special Needs" then this is significant. I think Apple have pitched
      the price well, and if you own a recent Mac then it makes sense to
      upgrade right away (who doesn't want more speed?) for a school, I
      think the improvements do on balance make sense, especially if you
      have children with a visual impairment. But I also think the upgrade to
      Windows 7 is worthwhile, especially if you're on XP and have a newer
      PC (otherwise this might be the right time for a spiffy new PC {or
      Mac}).

      But I don't recognise the last two years as ones where Apple has
      failed, these have been some of the most successful (both in product
      sold, and technical innovation) in the companies history. Mac OS X
      Snow Leopard shows that Apple are still producing the goods.
      Windows 7 marks a new high point for that OS, and Microsoft seem to
      be putting Vista behind them.
      jeremychappell
    • At least TRY to make an effort with writing...

      Even if you put in any details, it would take a decade to figure it out and one-liner insults aren't worth peoples' time. (But it's worth enough time for some of us to tell you it's in your interest, at least in terms of being seen even remotely seriously, to add details AND write with an iota of clarity.)

      Have fun with Windows 7. If it screws up files the way Windows Home Server and Vista had, MS is done for - any other company certainly would be.
      HypnoToad72
      • Vista screws up files?

        Please enlighten me. (written on Vista)
        Lester Young
    • In English Please

      I don't understand your post.

      Or in Your language: Understand not you say watt?
      yobtaf
      • Im in ur posts, stealn ur grammr [nt]

        [nt]
        olePigeon
  • RE: Is Snow Leopard worth it in Ed?

    Perhaps a more relevant poll would be "when will your
    school upgrade to Snow Leopard?" I know that changes in
    schools after school has started is not popular. My wife's
    school will test the new OS on a small sampling of
    machine to see how it works with Leopard Server (10.5)
    and perhaps roll out a lab first.

    The biggest change is in hardware, as Snow Leopard
    requires Intel processors. Schools typically use their
    machines longer than typical businesses and thus schools
    have PowerPC based Macs to replace as part of Snow
    Leopard migration.
    lundp@...
  • RE: Is Snow Leopard worth it in Ed?

    Introducing a new OS just as school is starting would be nuts. Let Snow Leopard get a few revs under its belt and then it may be ready for prime time, and installation next summer.
    sjtaffee
    • What works for Windows...

      I can see why you'd do that for Windows, but Apple upgrade the OS so
      often that you'd probably want a faster time scale than that.

      Because of the rapid OS upgrade cycles developers on the Mac tend to
      stick much closer to the guidelines than they do on Windows (it's much
      more likely on the Mac that not doing so will bite you). This also tends
      to mean that Mac software has fewer problems with OS upgrades, and
      they get sorted out faster. I have thought that Vista's problems
      weren't really technical but because it changes so much so long after
      XP had shipped. It might have been better for Microsoft to do more
      "upgrades" each with fewer changes. I think Windows 7 marks the
      beginning of a more Apple-like approach to OS updates from
      Microsoft (which can only be a good thing overall).

      So no, I think upgrading Macs from Leopard to Snow Leopard sooner
      rather than later makes good sense.
      jeremychappell
      • You might be right..

        The rapid release cycle and short support cycle go hand in hand. Compare, for example, the extended support cycle for XP with that of its contemporaries 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4.

        The intermediate upgrades between XP and Vista were XPSP1, XPSP2, and Server 2003.
        Lester Young
  • RE: Is Snow Leopard worth it in Ed?

    I thought Apple in schools was dead with most going to Microsoft and some from both camps going to Linux. The real world is Microsoft, so neither Apple or Linux is the best choice for Ed. That aside, absent a compelling reason to upgrade, save the money. I have seen companies successfully use Win98 up to and past the date when Microsoft ended support. Linux is a whole other thing. I know of one district with Linux serving 100 stations per 20 PCs. Pretty nifty, I thought.
    richdave
    • We use it.

      We use Mac OS X in school (almost exclusively) and it has turned out
      to be the best decision we ever made. The real world isn't just
      Windows, there are a lot of Windows systems out there it's true, but
      there are an increasing number of Macs too.

      But education isn't just about skills (that's "training") we can't teach
      children on the computers they will use when they enter employment
      - they don't exist yet! Will they use Windows? Maybe, but will it look
      like what we have today? Probably not. It makes sense to use the best
      tools available, the Mac (for us) fits that bill. No doubt PC will continue
      to evolve and grow more "Mac-like" each new version of Windows is
      hailed as "the most Mac-like version of Windows ever" and the Mac
      continues to add features that later arrive in some form on the PC.
      True this traffic of ideas isn't one way, the Mac got "fast user
      switching" from XP. However, it makes sense that the Mac can evolve
      more quickly and more fluidly than the PC, Apple make both the
      hardware and the software (and increasingly the applications), Mac
      users have grown used to a faster speed of change (which isn't always
      comfortable). Microsoft as the biggest player should move more
      cautiously, and has to lag behind the current hardware innovation. But
      for an educator the Mac seems like the right choice, "a harbinger of
      PCs to come".
      jeremychappell
    • That is so 1999

      Wonderful to hear that Apple is dead in schools and that the real world
      argument is still alive. It is so 1999!
      lundp@...
    • The real world says "do it just good enough". Then the world bleats it's

      not good enough.

      The world is also what we make of it.

      Companies deserve the money they ask for. Microsoft hasn't deserved it for the better part of a decade.
      HypnoToad72
    • There are plenty of all-Mac school districts...

      There are plenty of all-Mac school districts. Also, when you hit college
      and the university level, you're going to see a lot of Macs outside of
      graphic design. Macs are ubiquitous in bioinformatics, applied sciences,
      general science, mathematics, and law.
      olePigeon
    • Playing with fire

      Unsupported and unpatched machines are the absolute prime targets for malware, not to mention that Win9x is obscenely insecure to start with. Some companies need to look into new IT directors who aren't so shortsighted.
      Lester Young
  • I think so.

    Typically ed computers stick around a long time. If there are computers that can be upgraded, I think the ROI will come in the form of extended use due to the 7GB of freed disk space and performance gains from leaner code.
    People
    • Older Macs

      "Typically ed computers stick around a long time. If there are computers that can be upgraded, I think the ROI will come in the form of extended use due to the 7GB of freed disk space and performance gains from leaner code."

      Your surmise is accurate *only* if you ignore the fact that PPC Macs *cannot* use OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). Apple removed the PPC portion of the code base.

      Since you said that school computers do tend to "stick around for a long time", it's likely that many schools that have a number of older, PPC-based Macs in their equipment inventory won't be upgrading to SL.

      Partial FAIL
      M.R. Kennedy