Safari for Windows! Yawn...

Safari for Windows! Yawn...

Summary: So Apple finally realized that most of the world doesn't have a Mac and are probably using Windows even if they have an iPod or plan to buy an iPhone. As a result, they released the first public beta of their web browser, Safari, for Windows.


So Apple finally realized that most of the world doesn't have a Mac and are probably using Windows even if they have an iPod or plan to buy an iPhone. As a result, they released the first public beta of their web browser, Safari, for Windows. Hooray, another application to deploy over the summer! Or not...

Initial tests by Wired News show that Safari is actually slower than IE7 and Firefox in important applications. Sure, this is a beta, so nobody is expecting a perfect product. However, given that all tests were done with Google Ajax applications and Apple has been especially tight with Google lately, I'd have hoped that this would be one place where Safari might excel. Steve Jobs certainly touted its speed at WWDC. What was that he said? Oh right, here it is:

“So what we’ve got is the most innovative browser in the world. but we’ve also got the fastest browser on Windows,” said Jobs. It’s twice as fast as IE, 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2, and features built-in Google and Yahoo search.

So what does this mean for Ed Tech? Nothing. IE, Firefox, and Opera (just to name the most mainstream) are already snappy, mature browsers (that also have nice little bars for searching Google and Yahoo). I confiscate enough iPods from my students. I don't need to install Safari for them now, too.

Topics: Google, Apple, Browser, Windows

Christopher Dawson

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  • Possible Dud

    I have been looking for a better browser for several years, I prefer Mozilla over Windows so thought wow Apple to the rescue. I am currently disappointed with it. I either have a bad install or something is missing. I am unable to type in a URL address and the browser go there, I am limited to the preset Icons that are installed in the new browser. I am also unable to type a search item in the window. So if someone can tell me how it is suppose to work Thanks
    • You can try reinstalling, but...

      You could certainly try reinstalling (download a new copy and give it another shot). But if you really want a better alternative, try something like Opera that isn't in beta. Dig into the Mozilla site a bit as well and you'll find additional browsers with a lot of functionality.

  • Confuscated

    You confiscate iPods? That's stealing, paps.
    Give them back!
    • Only during class

      The earbuds tend to drown out my me old fashioned;)

      I usually give them back, though...

      • the previous poster understands being a student

        That's where it ends for him/her. Such people can't imagine why
        you should listen to the teacher in class. They believe you are
        infringing on the student's basic freedoms if you ask them to
        shut off ipod or their mobile phone. The schools are strange
        places these days.
  • Eyes wide shut

    I can't fault anyone for confiscating iPods in the classroom. They not only annoy and
    distract, they could be used to cheat. At least you don't smash them on the floor, as
    a professor did with a student's cell phone in a Youtube video I watched.

    Safari for Winders is a beta release, not final. People lose that fact and Apple doesn't
    do the best job of pointing it out and clarifying it. You don't install beta software on
    machines you want to keep in good working condition. Best to wait for the final and
    then install.
  • Mozilla........

    There are plenty open source Mozilla based browsers around for us to play with, Safari seems superfluous at best. If Apple really wants to be competitive, let them make their OS cheaper. A lot cheaper.

    BTW, I found something interesting on Sketchup: I posted it beneath your earlier blog.

    Greetz, Pjotr.
  • Simply another choice

    If you like it better than the others then use it; if not, don't worry about it. I see it as another step along the path leading to a browser-independent web, since the more viable browsers there are, the harder it becomes to encourage webmasters to write to one browser in particular.

    Get enough good browsers out there and the Browser Wars will be over for good (because nobody will be in a position to dominate).
    John L. Ries
    • I agree

      Most people design for IE without consideration for anyone else.
  • design and testing

    Many very innovative web designs are put together by creative people on Macs. They use Photoshop, they slice up their pages and create web templates, then they test their work ... on Safari.

    Then the rest of the world gets to see their work. People moan because pages don't look right: IE, Firefox, Opera, Nescape and Safari all handle some parts of CSS and HTML differently.

    If you test web pages you should welcome Safari on PC: for the first time we have the capability to check page layout consistency across all the major browsers.

    Don't discount Safari because of its small constituency - its users are responsible for a lot of high-profile web design and look down their noses at all the things that work in Safari but break in other browsers, especially IE. They believe they're right and the PC crowd are wrong. Anyone heard that argument before?

    I'm a PC-based webmaster. I work with a Mac-based consultant. It takes forever to get design right because neither of us can check work on all browsers. Safari on Windows is potentially good news.

    • Excellent Point

      Nice to see someone pointing out a valid argument instead of another Windows/Mac/Linux platform debate.
    • design and testing -- maybe

      The beta on Windows XP does not render similarly to Safari on a MacBook Pro. If this remains true in the final release, it will just add work for developers.

      I'm seeing variation how it positions absolute divs.
      rob weller
  • more d&T

    I forgot the big K on linux, and his small k friends... Konqueror on Windows?

    • Konqueror and Safari are connected...

      Safari uses Konqueror's KHTML rendering engine, so it would be safe to say that if it looks good on Safari, it'll look the same on Konqueror. So having Konqueror on Windows may be nice, but it would be considered more a Safari alternative than an IE or Firefox alt.
      Tony Agudo
  • MSoft is Blocking it

    Google doesn't want you to know that MSoft blocks downloading Safari.

    Why should Google Care?

    Because if the word spread that MS if Blocking G and Yahoo stuff,
    advertisers would leave like Rats off a sinking ship.

    Windows based Puters won't run without MSoft, but they will run without G or Y.

    In the Past Corporations HID Dirty Tricks and Problems with their products.
    NO MORE.
    With the Internet we should Keep Track of Dirty Deeds.

    Let ME Know when a Dirty deed has happened to you.