The one time that it's OK to buy an inkjet

Summary: I try and print as little as possible. Doing otherwise offends my green sensibilities and I can hardly ask teachers to cut down on paper consumption if I'm cranking out reams myself.

I try and print as little as possible. Doing otherwise offends my green sensibilities and I can hardly ask teachers to cut down on paper consumption if I'm cranking out reams myself. When I do print, I tend to send documents to a large shared mopier that we have, since the cost per page is the lowest of any device we own.

However, the other day I picked up an HP OfficeJet Pro L7580. It was on clearance at Staples and I walked out of the store with a high-speed printer/copier/fax/scanner and a complete set of replacement print heads and ink cartridges for $300. Regular readers will know that I'm doing everything I can to get rid of inkjets in the district; the cost of consumables is simply too high. So what the heck am I doing buying an inkjet?

Mostly, I needed a decent scanner. I need to be able to post web content quickly, archive documents, share paper documents with teachers and staff, and otherwise get rid of paper. Since the L7580 has an automatic document feeder plus a large flatbed scanner, it was almost worth the price just for the scanning capabilities. It comes with solid OCR software and scans of photographs came out brilliantly.

I'm not actually endorsing or even reviewing the L7580; in fact, it's been discontinued and replaced by the 7590. What I am suggesting, though, is that devices like this can serve a valuable purpose for some users. For users who need to print a lot, this sort of device will become very expensive over time. For users like me, though, who print very little and just need the occasional memo printed or article copied, a device like this can make a lot of sense.

When I do need to print, it's quite fast. Photographs, brochures, and other rich paper content look great. The scanner works like a champ. As with everything we do, it's simply a matter of weighing requirements to decide if it's worth making an exception to the no-inkjets rule.

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  • Cost per print

    I think this printer costs only like 1.5 cents per print. While still more than than larger copier/printer, is still much cheaper than older inkjets.
    T-Rexxx
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  • RE: The one time that it's OK to buy an inkjet

    Another area that is often over looked is getting a decent printer for larger sized art works. Poster size would be ideal. Largest I ever had access to was A3 inkjet printers but the look on students faces being able to take home a finished art piece larger than A4 still touches a warm spot in memory for me. Perhaps laser printers do as well but I'm told they are prone to cracking when rolled. I don't have much experience with them.
    fcorless@...
  • fcorless: I agree.

    Agree.
    You have the point. If you look for an area where
    inkjet does the work
    better than a laser, definitively is in the big
    formats.
    Otherwise, try to justify a bad purchase, with minor
    or none technical
    approach, is just innocent.
    raphael.munoz@...
  • OK repeat after me

    Paper is made from cotton and saplings. Paper is made from cotton and saplings. Paper is made from cotton and saplings.

    Now, I think that they still teach in public schools that cotton plants and saplings are crops that can be grown, harvested, planted and re-grown.

    Printing on paper is the ultimate use of a renewable resource.

    The green movement is always ignorance based, but sometimes, it becomes truly moronic.
    frgough
    • RE: OK repeat after me

      In the area where I live paper making is one of our largest industries. I drive by a very large 5-mill paper making plant on my way into work every morning. I have yet to see a truckload of saplings go into the mill. Most of the trucks are loaded with 6" diameter or larger Rough Popular, Pine, White Birch or other softwoods. On occasion the mill will need hardwoods such as Maple, Ash and Oak to meet a customers demands. You should visit a papermill sometime and get your facts straight on what goes into making the paper those of us in the education industry love to burn through.
      pherioux@...
    • RE: OK repeat after me

      Now you're just being silly. You know darn well environmentalism has no use or need for logic. Stop trying to confuse them with the facts.
      wbranch@...
    • I agree that the green argument is a a poor one...

      But the economic argument is far from it. Paper and ink cost money and in these hard economic times, sustainability is a sound business choice. No matter where the paper comes from, the school has to buy it. Not using paper for articles, memos, letters, manuals and notices can save tons of money in not only the paper and ink, but the delivery cost, the waste management cost and storage cost. Consider the cost in delivering a printed training or policy manual of 50 or so pages. The cover, the binding, the boxing, the distribution and replacement for those that are lost plus new editions and updates and addendum. And it all becomes outdated in a short amount of time, creating a massive waste issue.

      Printing to paper is the ultimate in a waste of time and money since much is what is printed can become outdated before it is distributed.

      Green-ness is a secondary consideration.
      MrDage
  • Chris, a question ...

    Several years ago I bought an HP all-in-one OfficeJet that did what it is supposed to do.

    HOWEVER, I *rarely* print. I'm talking ... on average less than one page per month. Except, of course, at tax time. As a result, EVERY time I *did* want to print the cartridge was dried and I would have to buy a new one. I solved *that* problem by buying a monochrome laser.

    But here's the problem/question I have: I still have use for the sheet-fed [b]scanner[/b]. The problem is that because the ink cartridge isn't working, the entire unit fails to activate properly. Is there some way I can "trick" it into thinking the cartridge is okay? My understanding is that sensors in the cartridge just measure levels, but putting in water didn't help. (Don't tell me to buy a separate scanner. I don't do THAT much scanning.)

    By the way, LOADS of people have old all-in-one units that could serve as donated scanners if this problem can be resolved.
    Rick_R
    • Reset printer

      Rick_R - some printers let you reset them (not the cartridges) so that they think all the cartridges are new.
      huy
  • Another exception

    I am using a Brothers printer which I can purchase very low cost replacement ink from Amazon. The ink costs about 12$ for a set 4 cartridges (all colors plus black). This cost level completely changes the equation and can make inkjets a good option for folks who do not go thru vast amounts of paper.
    dfolk2
  • Good luck when your chipped ink cartridge ...

    prematurely "dies" because it's been 6 months since you first used it. Unfortunately, even though there's some ink left, the cartridge is telling the printer it's out. So your price per page has gone up a lot because you don't print often.
    huy
  • Just make sure you print *something* once a week

    even if it's postage-stamp sized, just as long as it is in color. That way your cartridges will be more likely to stay primed and the capillaries will not get clogged.
    cd2_z
    • Just make sure you print *something* once a week

      My experience is having a nifty Epson printer used too seldom die when the jets clogged. In the Epson it was terminal, as jets were not part of cartridge assembly.

      In the HPs, the jets are part of the cartridge, hence new with every replaced cartridge. Hence if they clog from lack of use, the whole printer is not useless as it was with Epson.

      Still good to use occasionally!
      RPrigan
  • Big Mistake - Never a good time to buy HP printers

    I install PCs and printers for a living.
    There is never a right time to buy a HP anymore.
    About 3 weeks ago, you could have gotten a MFC-240c from Bestbuy for $39 and avoid the bloatware of HP software.
    The 240c will even run on a 98/Me machine. I don't believe HP makes any inkjet that would work on Win 9x.
    At 1/10th of the money you spent on the HP Officesh*t, you could have a superior product.
    Or for $79 they had the 490cw which has Wi-Fi built in.
    You can put it anywhere in your wi-fi range and all you need is one wire, the AC cord.
    I have one although I didn't need one, as I had installed a half dozen and was very impressed, even tho I am anti-inkjet also.
    Good luck.
    Anonymous Benefactor
    • Win9x ???

      I certainly hope that none of those PCs that you "install for a living" are still running Win9x or God-forbid Me. It is down-right irresponsible to not move your customers to a supported and securable platform.
      chipla
      • Is it responsible...

        ...to move a client to a new machine/OS if the
        old one is completing its task to spec?

        Up until 08, I still had clients with 98SE
        machines that were fulfilling their jobs just
        fine.
        JohnMcGrew@...
  • You didnt by an inkjet..

    you bought a scanner that happens to print as well.

    but ..i do admit..there are probably no adf scanners that dont print that are under 500
    zigip
  • Why didn't you buy the Kodak?

    It has everything you need plus the ink is well priced. $10 for a black cartridge, $15 for the color cartridge. It has a copier fax scanner as well.
    dunn@...