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Turnitin for Admissions - Kids these days

By | June 21, 2010, 7:42am PDT

Summary: Turnitin for Admissions is ready for prime time. Just adopted by the Penn State MBA program, it provides powerful tools to ensure that the best, brightest, and most ethical get into our best universities.

I tend to romanticize the college application process. I remember how much effort I put into my essays and personal statements, my carefully considered sources of recommendation letters, my nervous interviews. Ultimately, I only applied to one college because I knew it was where I wanted to go. Of course, this also raised the stakes a bit in terms of the application.

My oldest son went through the same process, albeit with a little less worry than I did. Despite his lack of obsessiveness over the process, everything he did was original. It was his own. He asked me to read and offer criticism on his essay, but his thoughts, ideas, and writing were his. It turns out that this approach is less common than one might think.

A few weeks ago I suggested that college admissions offices could benefit from a service like Turnitin, verifying the information that students submitted in their applications, after Adam Wheeler’s fraudulent application to Harvard made headlines. The idea was that schools should be admitting students of the highest integrity, not those who might lie and cheat to get ahead.

Turns out, there is such a service. It’s called Turnitin for Admissions. Go figure.

The same folks who brought us the Turnitin that looks for potential plagiarism in research reports and essays also have a product that can look for copied personal statements and essays in college admission documents. It’s not able to verify lists of personal achievements, but, unfortunately, its rate of detection simply among the essays and personal statements is high enough to both be very disturbing and to flag a lot of students whose ethics are sufficiently questionable that they might copy what are supposed to be highly personal, compelling essays.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.

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  • RE: Turnitin for Admissions - Kids these days
    That's what SATs are for. If you lie and cheat, then it'll show on your SAT score that you are not worthy for the school. It's really hard to cheat on those exams. But if it's about academics and school achievements, then that's a different story. The result is that you are applying for a community college or some small finishing school.

    I haven't looked into the Wheeler case, so I don't have much to compare with.
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    Maarek
    21st Jun 2010
  • RE: Turnitin for Admissions - Kids these days
    Having seen Turnitin in practice, it doesn't work where hundreds of students have to write on the same topic. The 1st student to use common phrasing to describe a thought or event gets credit for originality. All follow-on students using similar phrasing - equally original - get tagged as "cheaters". There are only so many commonly used sets of words to express the same thought or fact - something Turnitin doesn't recognize.

    My daughter's middle school research paper on Martin Luther King was flagged for plagiarizing a college paper on the same topic that was written 4 years prior in a state and college far away. She and I had to work at using different words in her sentences - all words were original from the 1st draft on - and still we couldn't get the plagiarism rating low enough to satisfy the Middle School requirements.

    I am unimpressed by lazy software and lazy teachers who refuse to acknowledge the foreseeable consequences of their actions.
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    thinking about consequences
    21st Jun 2010
  • I hate to say it but there are only so many ways to say something...
    the english language has a few or many depending on the subject. Eventually someone will have said it. I mean come on, 300 million in the US turing in multiple papers a year, it wouldnt take long before everything is noted as plagurized.

    This system was born to fail. They are going to have to change it so it differentiates between college, middle and high school. They should also rate on topic popularity as well as writing level and paper length. Eventually, they would have to guage a persons writing style too.
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    Been_Done_Before
    21st Jun 2010
  • Turnit in
    Turnit in has been around for sometime and is used by many Universities (University of Maryland) and high schools to weed out lazy good for nothing students who are not serious about their studies. Unfortunately, it is also used politically by religious based schools who use it to get rid of students that do not come up to their 'christian' values. Of course, these schools rarely get sued but if you can prove you did not cheat---you have the right to sue the school for millions and the faculty member who accused you.
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    ludwig 123456789
    21st Jun 2010
  • Easy solution
    Turnitin sounds like an easy solution. And, like most easy solutions, it doesn't work. Perhaps, as its marketers say, there is only a 10 ^-12 chance that two people told to write 16 random words will duplicate each other. But as soon as you demand coherent sentences, that "random words" qualifier is blown out of the water. And, while the odds of Bob Smith accidentally duplicating the effort of Ted Jones is small, the odds of ANY of a half-million writers accidentally duplicating ANY part of ANY other writer's work is very high.
    Using Turnitin to weed out accidental matches probably has already cut off the college career of some people of higher intellect and integrity than those administrators who rely on Turnitin's easy solution as a substitute for personally reading submissions.
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    kidtree
    22nd Jun 2010
  • RE: Turnitin for Admissions - Kids these days
    Any such system should not give a simple score, but should present the suspect passages side by side for the teacher to evaluate. I've used a poor man's version of this myself. I simply type a suspect sentence into Google and see what pops up. If I find long passages matching, I know.
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    sporkfighter
    23rd Jun 2010
  • RE: Turnitin for Admissions - Kids these days
    This has only started to happen because colleges admission staffs have began resorting to using automated tools scan through all of these submitted questions / essays to bubble up some of the "best". Which has created another business that parents are flocking to which are all of the coaches and services "to help get YOUR kid into one of tier top 5 choices of schools".

    What have these people discovered? that there are tricks and buzzwords need to be included to get your application on the top of the pile of the Dean of Admissions.....hrrmm I wounder if some of these repeated words and phrases are getting flagged.

    What is the answer? I am by far an expert here and I don't know the entire answer, but I do know it starts with everyone trying stop relying on computers and statistics to have the final decision on things like these.

    The long and short of it colleges need to stop trying to make the application process automated. If you want well rounded quality students attending the school, then you may need to start actually researching these applicants and talking to these individuals.
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    CraigG2
    25th Jun 2010

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