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Christopher Dawson

What do students miss with a virtual education?

By | March 24, 2011, 12:58pm PDT

Summary: Is virtual education, whether in K12 or higher ed, just another way of differentiating instruction to meet student needs or is it destroying an essential, human part of education?

I had the chance to speak at a local university on Tuesday, talking to a class on cloud computing about the impact of technology (especially, of course, the cloud) on higher education. The class was great and was, itself, focused on team-based learning and simulations using a variety of cloud and web-based tools. What was even better, though, was the Q&A session with the students and my follow-up conversations with faculty and staff.

Let me start with something that ZDNet’s digital video and photo blogger, Janice Chen, wrote in an unrelated discussion we were having about ZDNet’s upcoming 20th anniversary:

I went to Cornell University in upstate NY (close enough to 1991 anyway) and was back up there semi-recently for a wedding. There’s a big undergrad library there that EVERYONE went to for “studying” and what we called facetime back in the day…As I walked into Uris Library over the recent wedding weekend, I realized there was hardly anyone in there. No one sitting in the rows and rows of
study carrels where we used to park ourselves with our open text books and pretend to read, while constantly looking up and scanning for familiar faces walking by. For a second I thought maybe we happened to be there over a school break, but then I realized that everyone studies in their rooms now with their own computers and the internet. Considering how hooked I am on electronics and technology, I’m sure I’d be just the same given half a chance. But still, I felt a bit sad for them–facetime at the library was such a big part of college life in those days…

It’s one thing to be in a dorm room working and studying. At least in that setting, students most likely have roommates and neighbors, shared areas, “the Quad” or whatever constitutes a given school’s hang-out-and-play-frisbee-and-breathe-air space, and even physical classrooms for face-to-face interactions.

It’s quite another to have a computer with school-related social interactions conducted exclusively through email, voice and video chat, instant messaging, and other electronic means of communication. What gets lost if students don’t have a Quad or Janice’s Uris Library at all?

Janice obviously wasn’t talking about virtual education, exactly, but the hint of pushback against increasing isolation and a fundamental change in the college experience, even while still within the confines of ivy-covered halls is only the tip of the iceberg as students as young as Kindergarten and 1st grade begin looking at fully online institutions as they select their schools.

Perhaps, as one individual I spoke with after my talk on Tuesday suggested, even more important than the loss of some of college’s more important social components was our potential loss of humanity and ethical fortitude as online education and technically-oriented schools made it easy for students to simply acquire skills. Those skills, though utterly necessary to be competitive in the job market, don’t necessarily address the critical thinking, moral fiber, or truly human portions of an education that shapes good citizens as well as top-notch engineers (or mathematicians, or doctors, or whatever).

I, however, am the vice president of marketing for a company that provides a virtual learning platform. Virtual classrooms, a marketplace to connect learners with independent educators, the whole nine yards. I wouldn’t be making a career of convincing people that this is a good idea if I didn’t believe that it had an incredible amount of value.

This isn’t to say that I think we should just put our elementary students in their rooms with a computer, enroll them in a virtual academy, give them a Club Penguin account for socialization, and hope for the best. Fully virtual learning environments are not for everyone and even the students they suit well need to find their own sources of socialization. It needn’t be one or the other though, and we also must recognize that part of the “differentiated instruction” we hear so much about needs to include providing an environment that best supports an individual student’s learning.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.
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RE: What do students miss with a virtual education?
juankmoranesi 11th Mar
I think it's very important to train people in the use of TIC to enable virtual studies with greater understanding.

Education should be priority in the country and if people do not have the resources to access it in person, then it must provide the conditions to do it virtually.
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The STDs, that's what they miss. Especially if they were planning on going to Rutgers in NJ. Lol.
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@Bates_
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@John Zern If the teacher is hot enough, then where is the harm in that? I had a few teachers over the years that I wish asked me out. No such luck sad

I hated driving to school every morning or every night. Going out in horrible snowy weather just to get to class and find out my class was canceled. It sucked.
@John Zern From her English prof. She got an A+ in the course. It's just good academics.
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@John Zern Its one thing to be in a dorm room working and studying. At least in that setting, students most likely have roommates and neighbors, shared areas, the Quad or whatever constitutes a given schools hang-out-and-play-frisbee-and-breathe-air space, and even physical classrooms for face-to-face interactions.
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@Bates_ You sir have tigers blood making a post like that. In fact, you're winning so hard you may even have Adonis DNA.

On topic now, I pretty much believe that being in public schools, with people, is the only way children can get first hand experience with real life. With cyber schools, once they turn 18, they're in for a huge shock. "WELCOME TO REEAL LIFE!" will be the first thing that happens when they go for college or job interviews. I was in public school until 6th grade , switched to cyber, and then went back for 11th and 12th. I was completely out of my depth and inept socially because of those 5 years lost. Not only do I firmly believe in that public schools are close approximations to real adult life, I also say that cyber school shouldn't be allowed until college because of the social damage it causes. Parents, please take it from someone who suffered it personally, it's better for your children to be educated in the real world, not in front of a computer screen.
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@pjskeleton You know what? That shock happens anyways.
Public schools are in no way 'close approximations' to 'real' life i.e. University.
If you're intellectually 'on top' you won't see any challenge at all until the last year of your education, and even then, that challenge is limited.

If you suddenly enter into a 'real life' situation you're going to be swamped- no matter what your social background.


I wasn't mentored 'in front of a computer screen' yet I don't have the easiest time with "normal people things" like branching out, making friends, etc.

Also, because of this, I would have preferred not having to go to war every day- I'd rather learn without the constant insults. If this kind of education was available I would have jumped at the chance. I would have left and never once looked back.
Tell me- is 6 years enough time for someone to learn 'real life' experience being insulted, picked on, etc.?
If that's the 'real life experience' that you believe all students should have, that's a big 'F*** you' from you to those like me, and I want no part of it.

If cyber-education existed 7 or 8 years ago I would have been done with the public school system (i.e. graduated already) about 5 years ago.
That wasn't the case and I suffered because it didn't exist.

If certain individuals possess above-average ability and intelligence, does that mean we should keep them back so they can learn to be beat on and treated badly? Or does it mean that we should provide the resources so that they can be pushed to their limits right away and actually enjoy what they're learning for a change?


Maybe, in your rush to ban useful forms of education you can ban small private schools and homeschooling while you're at it- you must really want to kill telepresence education as well, eh?
In fact, I've seen people come from those places with vastly superior social skills to my own regardless of what kind of education they had.

Also, in regards to telepresence, I've set up a system for someone who needs specialized education since he doesn't have the easiest time hearing. Should that be banned too?

Finally, should we be keeping kids back who can do better?
They kept me back way back when since this option DIDN'T exist!

And the kicker?
The reason was: 'May not adjust to a change of school because of a lack of social skills.'

Therefore, your argument about 'causing social damage' is not accurate. Rather, it prevents this damage.
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The danger is that the youngsters, who could most benefit from forced social interaction by attending physical schools, will be the ones most inclined to sit at home in front of their computers.

We are likely to create a society of social misfits. And, because these youngsters will not be in a position to be diagnosed by physical teachers and guidance conselors, they are more likely to become unproductive and a danger to society.
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@jorjitop
You're wrong.

This forced social interaction, for people who would use cyber-education, usually does more harm than good.
The ones who are most inclined to sit in front of their computers are the ones who don't get what they need from physical schools.
These people want to get AWAY from harm and into good.

People who are already in need of cyber-education are already, as you called them, 'social misfits'. So what more damage can you do? There's only one thing you can do and that is destroy their self-esteem by throwing them in with those that do not understand.

Wouldn't you rather make it possible for them to reach full potential right away? To feel like they're 'working' and 'right' without having to put up with ignorant others telling them that they're 'wrong' and 'worthless'?
Yet you believe the opposite.

Answer me this:

Am I any more likely than another 'social misfit' to not want to do anything with my life, since it's either a.) too hard or b.) too easy?
Am I any more likely than any other person that's been harassed to excess to undergo mental breakdown and start picking people off with a high-powered rifle?

The answer to both these questions is a sound 'NO'.
Yet you believe the opposite.
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in your house. Sheesh. Have you ever heard of little league, cub scouts/boy scouts/girl scouts?
@jorjitop I think this is an important benefit that shouldn't be missed, since schooling educated people in more ways than one. Many people that would otherwise sit inside and not see people just need a little push, and the necessary social interaction does just that. We're social creatures after all, so for most people it's healthy. It may do some harm, but those people are in the distinct minority. dune shoes papasan chair
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Hard to disagree with you. We already have far too many teens doing unproductive things all day. The social skills gained by attending a physical school are critical to one's future.

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They miss forced association with creeps, druggies and alcoholics. They do not have to put up with a bunch of arrogant professors who have no life experience outside of the educational environment. They have to learn to form friendships like they would after graduation by greeting and meeting.
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Through Facebook?
John Zern 25th Mar 2011
@hayneiii@... They have to learn to form friendships like they would after graduation by greeting and meeting
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Thing *I* am missing out on...
zeblonite 25th Mar 2011
I'm in my 40's and am currently attending Carnegie Mellon remotely. There are definitely things I miss out on by living 1,000 miles away from the school. I miss out on just about all of the "extras" - job fairs, workshops, discussion groups, etc. Any off-campus events promoted by the school (such as technical conferences they get free student passes to) are going to be near the school, not near me. And of course there is the social stuff I don't get to be included in, which means less networking, fewer informal technical discussions, and fewer opportunities to relate to your colleagues at personal level (which for some people is an important skill for them to develop). And unless you are doing a team project with someone you will NEVER interact with them. It limits how much students can learn from each other. At the same time I like that remote participation kind of forces things to take a more professional tone, to be about education and not about getting drunk or whatever. Overall I'd get more out of attending in person, no question about it. If I were younger I think it would be even more important for me to be there on campus instead of sitting in my house with a webcam.
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What YOU say, I very much agree with. But when I read "Perhaps, as one individual I spoke with after my talk on Tuesday suggested, even more important than the loss of some of college?s more important social components was our potential loss of humanity and ethical fortitude as online education and technically-oriented schools made it easy for students to simply acquire skills " I fell off my chair laughing. (Tongue in cheek for this sentence) Surely it is important to institutionalized with people your own age plus-or-minus 6 months for two decades so you can be isolated from others, and learn the necessity of sports skills so you know how to dribble a basketball at your next job interview.
I'm nearly two decades older than you and taking virtual classes: YES, social interaction is important, but not the kind cited in the article. Pupils today don't learn genuine people-skills (compassion, respect, service) anymore, just "social skills" (twittering, facebooking, me-isms, blending into a group). With higher costs of living and transportation, virtual education will become more important soon. Maybe there should be a happy medium made somewhere of skills augmentation, like 8 weeks virtual and a long-weekend or actual classroom time. I don't know.
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One point you missed, how can instructors know the students who signed up for the class are the ones doing the work and taking the online tests? "Back in the day," students could buy term papers. Those kind of students still exist and have figured out online impersonation is very easy.
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Unfortunately the kids are the losers in this
kshotwell@... 25th Mar 2011
I've taught for 15 years. I've used the 'traditional methods' and we've had virtual learning experiences (Study Island, etc). The kids got BORED with the virtual lessons and tests and did rather poorly, no matter how much motivation was programmed in. It took a physical teacher to keep them on task and learning, having to pull aside certain students to do mini-lessons with because the computer WASN'T their best learning style. Its easy to say virtualization is the way to go now that we have major budget cuts, but in the end, its the kids who suffer.
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Gotta get off the fence! Most of the home-schools and online students I've met lack social graces and skills...the only enduring skill set in the market place. If you want proof look at the of the rants here.
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I am a university professor and I do a great deal of on-line studying. I love it. I wish that I had had Wikipedia when I was a kid.
As a prof I find I deal with kids who are not well equipped to use the web resources, my course materials, or time with me. One of the things that happens face to face is that a fraction of these kids are challenged and motivated by the face-to face with me and with other students. These are the ones that I think I miss online.
Wish I knew what to do.
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Opportunity
MrBeck 25th Mar 2011
Opportunity knocks, as they say, when least expected but definitely more often on the college campus than the suburban home. Who discovered themselves at home, who "re-made" themselves at home, who developed real character because of real temptation at home. Nothing wrong with "virtual learning" but please don't confuse it with a life experience.
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Older students miss a lot of stress
rcol4jc@... 25th Mar 2011
As a college student late in life, I honestly could not go to college without virtual learning. I attend University of Phoenix and it has been great. I am the only one working in my family so it makes a job and school much easier.
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A Lot
timbrady1124@... 25th Mar 2011
My college experience is a mix of lots of things ... some classes, some learning, but also lots of people, places, lunches, face-to-face study sessions that make up a lot of my wonderful memories of the entire experience. I would never give up these memories for a little convenience ... at least not as an undergraduate. Perhaps when you have to work full time AND go to school, the convenience makes it possible (I did this for my final degree), but I still would have preferred "being there."
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Nothing wrong with a new paradigm for education, but it places new responsibilities on the "student" to utilize time - and only time will tell how disciplined we can be. I've heard lots 'bout how much improvement will result from IT implementation in healthcare delivery, for example; the parallel must be true for education.
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We are social beings. Virtual classrooms have their uses when you can't actually be there. Virtual classrooms can do things that you can't do in a traditional classroom. However, a really good virtual classroom is a work of art and takes a tremendous amount of effort and planning - something that is often lacking. I don't believe anything can completely replace the positives that are possible from being physically present with other people.
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Can be great
chris407x 25th Mar 2011
If you have something else that you are doing it is great. My daughter did not care for the classroom school social scene that much but she is really into gymnastics and now golf. We live in Florida and she does virtual school and plays 40+ holes of golf per week. She also plays on the "meat school" golf team. She gets great grades and can spend more time on subjects that are harder for her.

I was a teacher and there are some experiences that cannot be replicated in virtual school, and the lessons and assessments are very much based on multiple choice answers. It is also extremely difficult to teach yourself math from the computer: you need someone interacting with you. Once real "chat" becomes more fluid online it will be a viable alternative for more people. It needs to become more social: the technology is almost there.

Virtual school gives you a way to avoid the bad apples and concentrate on your own improvement.
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geez, this is about as shallow a discussion as you can get. my son has ADHD, can't study in a structured environment, but has all kinds of social graces coming outta his wazzou. he did his high school online after his on-campus history teacher told him he'd do his best to make sure my son didn't get into ANY college, anywhere. why? because he couldn't "get with the program". my son is now teaching ESL.
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for most students . . . do both
hansonjb 25th Mar 2011
i can see huge advantages to virtual education for debating (one of the things i teach). i can see it being used for instruction and some actual debates among schools--saving costs, providing instructors best in particular areas, getting debate taught in rural and urban schools where there aren't programs.
does that replace going to tournaments and meeting and debating other students face to face? nope. it would just supplement it--much like texting and emailing and facebooking supplements face to face interaction.

do 'em both.
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I agree with some of the comments posted here.

In a private religious junior and high school I too was constantly harassed and bullied, to such an extent that I dreaded going to school. When I was in primary school, I was thought to be a very bright and promising student. When I got to high school, I was: spat on; kicked in the back; called all kinds of names under the sun; sexually harassed by young homosexual bullies during a religious camp, they'd drop their pants and show me their open butts in my face when I was trying to talk with some of my fellow misfits, to whom they also bared their butts at; they'd try to pick fights with me; I'd get insulted several times each day; I went to the Year 10 junior high school dance by myself, and one of the bullies attempted to homosexually jump me from behind on the dance floor.

By the time I was in my third last year of high school, my family doctor prescribed Valium because I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Every time I had feelings of anxiety at school, I'd pop one so I could function sufficiently to get through the day. During each lunch time, I'd go to the school library and read up on books on science and technology because that was the only place I could find refuge from the constant barrage of threats of violence and insults that would find me everywhere I'd go on the school grounds. During my last two years of high school I was still bullied by the younger students whose older brothers had already left to go to trade school. If I wasn't in the school library, I'd be in the physics or chemistry laboratory, trying to study.

By the time I completed high school and did my high school certificate, my self-esteem, self-confidence and belief in my abilities were so shot to hell, that I failed my certificate. My parents would not support me going back to school or go to a vocational school because they felt ashamed of me.

In my third last year of high school, I did an aptitude test and was found to be good enough only to become a carpenter; nothing wrong with carpentry, but I felt I had more potential.

During my twenties I educated myself, went to a vocational college whilst I worked full time, to study electronics. Whilst I had failed differential and integral calculus in my high school certificate, I topped the final exam of the differential and integral calculus, at a higher level than what I'd done in high school.

Later I used my vocational college certificate to qualify for entry into University.

Due to the homosexual harassment I had endured in junior high and senior high school, it wasn't until I was 40 years old that I was able to reclaim my life, and date for the first time.

Though at University, I found several tutors and lecturers treated a mature age student such as myself with some bias, perhaps due to my older age. Some would refuse to give me a straight answer to my questions I asked face to face, and one so-called Professor would only give me good answers if I emailed him. Some of these tutors and Professors would treat me with contempt in face to face meetings. I noticed they preferred to answer questions and seemed much more comfortable in challenging the younger students face to face; I guess they didn't like an older student with practical life experience in the technical work place asking specific questions, and questioning their assumptions or paradigms.

Suffice it to say that the vocational college instructors were far superior in their teaching methods, compared with some University professors and tutors. I found out at University that Professors were not required to do a certificate in training people, i.e. required to have proper teaching qualifications, unlike the vocational college instructors.

I did get some positive aspects from my University life, but my vocational college life was much better.

I think that junior and senior high schools did much more social damage, and for people like myself who are gifted, we'd be better off doing schooling in virtual schooling.

Career wise I was held back for 19 years, and socially for over 20 years. The damage that was done happened in the physical attendance of a traditional high school environment. The irony is that my parents sent me to a religious private school with the hope that I'd get a quality school education, since they were paying for my tuition.

I will be 50 years old this year, but when I think back to my high school life, I look back with anger, contempt, bitterness and outrage. That should be a time a person is to think of as the best time of their life, but never for me, and never for other people who have posted their negative experiences.

Just like virtual classrooms are not for everybody, neither are physical classrooms.

Those of us who are brighter than average and of school age should learn a valuable lesson from us oldies. First you won't learn any valuable social lessons from attending physical schools where you are picked on, bullied or harassed; all you will learn is a lifelong desire for vengeance and will sharpen an innate desire to pre-empt bullies later in life; I never got my revenge and now have little need of it because it poisoned my past life for so long. So out the window goes trying to live a normal and happy life. The old adage "do unto others as you would done unto yourself", does not work with bullies because they are too ignorant, stupid and too heavy handed with inculcating violence against others to care; such people eventually land in jail in adult life - my mother found out where she used to work, that two of the bullies who used to harass me in junior high school, joined the police force, went on the take, got caught by Internal Affairs and were sent to jail for several years. I suppose after baring their butts at me, they finally got what they wanted in jail.

Had Virtual classroom technology been available back then, I would have pleaded constantly with my parents to allow me to go to school there, and stop wasting their money going to a private religious school. Incidentally since leaving the confines of the private religious school, I have since become an atheist.
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I'd miss the cliques and bullies.
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There are two issues here. One is the use of virtual technology to support the students learning, which has many benefits as learning doesn't stop when school has finished but in absolutely no way is it a replacement for a physical classroom. Using bullying as a means to justify using virtual education is just plain stupid. The root cause is that the curriculum in many public schools doesn't allow you to reinforce ideal student behaviour, like being caring, thoughtful, a risk taker, well balanced, communicative etc, just ideal academic results. Unfortunately this change is very slow.
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Distractions
Ongytenes 27th Mar 2011
I think they will miss all the distractions like wild parties, binges, etc that tend to hurt their studies. Come to think about it, that's a good thing.
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If all students get when they study online is a virtual education rather than a real education, then they have been seriously disadvantaged. However, in my experience of online courses, the education is very real and in some cases of even better quality than traditional face-to-face courses. OK, maybe I'm being picky in taking issue with this use of the word 'virtual'. It seems to me you can create a virtual classroom online (ie something that mimics the useful qualities of a real bricks-and-mortar classroom) but if the education which students get isn't the real thing then then the school has failed badly.
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Most expensive frisbee ever!
tkejlboom 28th Mar 2011
$40k/year to play frisbee on the quad? I call BS.
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Rapid interaction also suffers...
guywayne 28th Mar 2011
I have and am taking several classes, both on-ground and on-line. The thing that I miss most online is the immediate discussion and feedback. When I have a question, and then more questions that follow from the answer to it, it can take days to get the answers that I need. In a classroom I can pose a question, listen to the answer, and argue about it to a conclusion all at one time. This is a lot more satisfactory than posting a question online or via email and needing to refer to the thread to remember the question that I asked that goes with the answer that I got.
Some courses adapt better to the online experience than others, but Nothing beats class-time.
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It?s quite another to have a computer with school-related social interactions conducted exclusively through email, voice and video chat, instant messaging, and other electronic means of communication. ged online
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i like it.
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There are some more topics in the internet about this, but i didn't got that much information from them.
Nick Evans
I notice that a lot of people should stay on topic to try and add value to the original blog post.
Nick Evans
En fait, j'ai vu des gens viennent de ces endroits avec des comp?tences sociales largement sup?rieure ? mon propre ind?pendamment quel type d'?ducation qu'ils avaient. spielzeug jouets
Students miss out on the entire college experience when they get their degree online. Things like talking to the prof after class, late night study sessions in the library, and trying to find a flatmate all are part of development of the student's social skills as well.
i think theres a time and a place for all types of learning . some can be beneficial when people cant attend normal education , but you can beat face to face tuition with a teacher in a class based environment . gary
I think it's very important to train people in the use of TIC to enable virtual studies with greater understanding.

Education should be priority in the country and if people do not have the resources to access it in person, then it must provide the conditions to do it virtually.

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