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Exclusive: Paul Ceglia says Facebook is doing the forgery

By | August 16, 2011, 3:43pm PDT

Summary: Following Facebook’s accusations of forgery, courtroom adversary Paul Ceglia fires back as he looks to open source his lawsuit through a wiki.

Source: Paul Ceglia

Paul Ceglia, a man in a heated lawsuit with Facebook, wants his side heard. The problem is Ceglia is fighting an uphill battle in the believability department and rambles through diatribes. Nevertheless, Ceglia is forging ahead in his Facebook battle and believes he can overcome the odds.

After my last article, “Facebook: Ceglia’s contract doesn’t even mention Facebook“, a man claiming to be Paul Ceglia contacted me via email. He asked me if I wanted to get his side of the story. I agreed and he sent me a long reply (the full 1,147-word email is posted at the bottom).

Will the real Paul Ceglia please stand up?

Verifying Ceglia’s identity was a bit tricky. He’s in Ireland now and I couldn’t exactly meet him in person. It’s also difficult to pelt him with questions since much of his background is public record. Via cell phone numbers, pictures sent to us, and two phone conversations, we have enough confidence that it’s him. He refused to do a Skype call and used a wonky PC excuse not to have one. Regardless, Ceglia is either very emotional and convinced he owns a significant chunk of Facebook or is simply a very good actor.

After the initial contact, I was not sure if this was the real Paul Ceglia; it could easily be Facebook playing games with a journalist, an impostor (such as someone who hates Facebook), or even someone at Facebook with his or her own agenda. He suggested that he would send me an image of himself with the words “Hi Emil” on a piece of paper. 15 minutes later, I received a text message from “3538xxxxxxxx” that said “Hey emil. Pic wont seem to send.”

His number helped his case: 353 is the area code for Ireland, and typically cell phone numbers start with an 8x for a more local area code, followed by seven numbers. Unfortunately, not getting a picture was unacceptable – he said he was having trouble sending it as a text message and also wasn’t sure how to transfer it to a computer to send via email.

I suggested he email it directly from his phone instead, and he agreed. Another 15 minutes later, and I was looking at a very blurry image that looked like a man holding a piece of paper with the words “HI EMIL” scrawled on. I asked for a better picture, and I got it a little later, though it was still a little blurry. The picture matched other photos on the Web of Ceglia.

I asked him if we could talk on the phone and tried calling him. He didn’t pick up. I emailed him again. Thirty minutes later, he called me. We chatted, I asked him a few questions, and he told me about how the media published everything Facebook said like it was the gospel. He said it was much harder for him to get his side of the story out.

Finally, Ceglia chatted with ZDNet’s editor, Larry Dignan, and had a largely off the record chat. He then sent me a third picture taken some time in the last three days with a digital camera (as opposed to a cell phone camera), which you can see at the top right of this article (click to enlarge).

What Ceglia told me

Ceglia’s main argument appears to be that the original “authentic contract” Facebook says it found is really just a Photoshopped image the company planted on his computer. He says he and his lawyers reportedly knew about it for some time and willingly handed it over to Facebook. He declares that his team will prove the image in question “has no authenticating properties whatsoever.”

Ceglia speculates it could have been Zuckerberg himself, or the US law firm Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe that may have done the alleged dirty work. He also says Facebook co-founder Eduardo Savrin accused Orrick of “conspiring with Zuckerberg to deprive him of his shares during his case.”

Facebook’s adversary then goes on to call Zuckerberg “an admitted forger and an admitted hacker” and explains this is true “not because he feels compelled to tell the truth, like ever, but because he carelessly wrote as his home address on the document he was forging an address that he didn’t know about or move to until more than a year after the document was supposedly written!”

Last but certainly not least, Ceglia says he has conclusive proof that Zuckerberg is lying. He said that anyone with some legal expertise or technical expertise willing to help “nail him down for good” is welcome to join at PaulsCase.com, which requires registration. Via the PaulsCase wiki, Ceglia is trying to open source his lawsuit. His current lawyer is on an interim basis and Ceglia is looking for a more “collaborative” law firm to work with him.

A few other things he goes on record to say:

  • “Mark Zuckerberg has admitted to forgery and he has done it once again.”
  • “This time though he isn’t just going to get away with it and buy himself out, you will face a jury of our peers Mark, and your PR team won’t be there to save you.”
  • “History will record you as the only billionaire to have ever lost his empire to a Tiff image.”
  • “You won’t go public Mark, you won’t IPO, you won’t pass go. I won’t let you sell this company out from under me not while I have the power to stop you.”
  • “Zuckerberg reminds me a great deal of the great Edward J Smith, captain of the Titanic, ignorant of the conditions surrounding him he arrogantly continues onward until the moment he hits the iceberg. You’ve hit your Iceberg now bud so don’t come to Ireland again, this time crying to me that you have to protect your image.”
  • “750 million dollars isn’t cool Mark, you know what ’s cool? 750 million users is cool…”

Last week, Facebook said it found “smoking-gun evidence that the purported contract at the heart of this case is a fabrication.” When Facebook’s lawyers asked for a resubmittal of a document to the court due to improper redaction, it turned out the blacked out text referred to an “authentic contract” and “storage devices” that Facebook says Ceglia is intentionally hiding from the company, in violation of a court order.

Originally, Ceglia’s lawyers said the “authentic contract” is shielded from use in the lawsuit because it is designated as “confidential” under the rules of an agreement between the two parties. Facebook then asked Judge Leslie Foschio of the US District Court in New York City to overrule that designation. Foschio agreed and ordered Paul Ceglia to hand over documents Facebook says proves he forged the 2003 contract.

As for the “storage devices,” Facebook now says that forensic data shows evidence of six USB devices, which it argues were likely used to modify the authentic contract. The company’s lawyers say at least one of those devices includes a folder called “Facebook Files” and an image called “Zuckerberg Contract page1.tif.” Facebook believes that image is the page of the contract that was forged to include mention of an investment in the social network.

Facebook acknowledges that Ceglia hired Zuckerberg to work for his StreetFax company in April 2003 while Zuckerberg was a freshman at Harvard. Ceglia first legally attacked Facebook in July 2010, saying the contract also included $1,000 initial funding for Facebook, and that he’s entitled to more than half of the social networking giant. That last part Facebook is obviously disputing.

Facebook insists Ceglia is a known con artist. Since he first filed suit, Ceglia has been dropped by at least four law firms. He is now reportedly living in Galway, Ireland, but the lawsuit is continuing. Ceglia, who called ZDNet from Ireland, maintains that he has been unfairly painted as a con artist.

Below is the full email Ceglia sent to me, with original spacing, spelling, and grammar errors left intact:

We have known about this photoshopped “image” for some time and i willingly handed it over to them, now they claim it is the original and that there are other files I’m intentionally not handing over, when I gave over their doctored page 1.. It’s laughable… they make this stuff up as they go along.

I believe based on the fact that Orin Snyder argued almost exclusively for my parents computers, the location where the so called “image” was discovered that either Orin Snyder is clairvoyant and had a premonition that his “smoking gun” was on my parents computer or he knew in advance that it was planted there. Perhaps by Zuckerberg himself and perhaps by Orrick, the firm Eduardo Savrin accused of conspiring with Zuckerberg to deprive him of his shares during his case. If that is the case then they are subornating perjury and conspiring along with Zuckerberg to protect the empire and this time they are going to get caught. Eduardo Savrin, the bus is rolling, just needs a little push from the sidelines.

It is obvious that these major outlets continue to protect Mark and his “new image”. He is an admitted forgerer, he was forced to admit it under oath, not because he feels compelled to tell the truth, like ever, but because he carelessly wrote as his home adress on the document he was forging an address that he didnt know about or move to until more than a year after the document was supposedly written! A rational person would think I need not say more, and that surely my arrest for mushrooms 14 years ago or the fact that I fell behind on wood pellet orders that have long since paid back is irrelevant compared to the more daming and far more on point evidence that Zuckerberg is an admitted forger and an admitted hacker, yet a read of the major media outlets shows what most people know already, that our “Free Press” slant the news to the big boss’s views. A luxury afforded the Billionaires of this world that clearly have their own agendas. Perhaps calling them out like this will force some two sided coverage of the story.

We’ve now waited weeks past when we were due to get the 175 emails
from Zuckerberg, supposedly because they were afraid that I might use them, as if it was I that needed additional support for my side of the case. Me, a guy that has limited computer knowledge, they are concerned about, but the fact that Mark has now had more than two weeks to do the very same thing… having had all my emails to read so that he can make his sound like a better narrative is ignored and I have to trust that he, the admitted forger, isnt actively switching his emails around to counter mine??!!! wierder and wierder.

Zuckerberg reminds me a great deal of the great Edward J Smith, captain of the Titanic, ignorant of the conditions surrounding him he arrogantly continues onward until the moment he hits the iceberg. You’ve hit your Iceberg now bud so don’t come to Ireland again, this time crying to me that you have to protect your image.

History will record you as the only billionaire to have ever lost his empire to a Tiff image.

This “image” they claim is the original is forged and we will prove it has no authenticating properties what so ever. I would have expected more from him and his henchmen.

You won’t go public Mark, you won’t IPO, you won’t pass go. I won’t let you sell this company out from under me not while I have the power to stop you.

We have conslusive proof Mark is lying and we are searching for more, anyone with some legal or technical expertise that would like to help us nail him down for good is welcome to join in at PaulsCase.com

What I can tell you is, before the testing it was Orin “King Kong” Snyder beating his chest with “amateurish forgery” claims on the original paper contract, now that they have tested it, suddenly we hear no more about that, though you will be hearing a lot from us on it in the coming months. Suddenly there are requests for a second round of ink testing, clearly outside the court order for expedited discovery and I don’t think it takes much to conlude that they wouldnt need more ink if the first batch they took showed a “real” smoking gun as they claimed it would.

Even some of their experts have come under fire from their own colleagues for the false or misleading testimony they gave. (see the linguistics expert publicly outted by the president of the linguistics society)

Instead they continue to make up their defense as they go along and now talk about this “image” and since Mark has now officially claimed that is the original then I’m happy to be the first to say-
“Mark Zuckerberg has admitted to Forgery and he has done it once again.” this time though he isnt just going to get away with it and buy himself out, you will face a jury of our peers Mark, and your PR team won’t be there to save you.

To adopt a line from the movie-

750 million dollars isnt cool Mark, you know what ’s cool? 750 million users is cool…

Some unrelated opinions…

From the Arab Spring to the riots of London last week, I see that social networks are the peoples tools to not only talk about how bored we are today, or to worry about everyone seeing that last photo we put up, but also when users are oppressed somewhere and realize it, it obviously can be used to overthrow tyranny and outmanuever the forces that protect the establishment. It’s become the peoples voice and a powerful tool to unite the masses. It’s a tool that deserves to stay in the hands and control of the people.

I’m starting to have all sorts of opinions as to what I’ll do when I’m at the helm. Some might call it delusions of self grandure, you can call me what you like but if Thomas Jefferson was right and that-
“all tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent” then in good conscience when I’m at the helm I won’t let any government have the power to silence it’s citizens, especially during an uprising. Money has never been my interest in this case, most of the lawyers for sure, but for me the network is what is important, we have a lot of tyrants to rid ourselves of in this world and a lot of inappropriate pictures to share with our singular circle of friends but as Michael Franti says..we won’t stop.. and I won’t quit…

Facebook gave me a standard “No comment” response when I asked for a statement in regards to this article.

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Emil Protalinski has covered the tech industry for five years for multiple publications.

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Emil Protalinski

Emil Protalinski has covered the tech industry for five years for multiple publications, including Neowin for two years and Ars Technica for three years. He has written 1,000s of articles for both, with a particular focus on scrutinizing Microsoft products and services. Recently, Emil has expanded his coverage to non-Microsoft technologies, including the social networking giant Facebook.

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RE: Exclusive: Paul Ceglia says Facebook is doing the forgery
GetYourFactsStraight89 28th Aug
@bugmenot@... Would you be willing to get over it as easy if you knew you had a legitimate case against a 164 billion dollar company? Think about it why is a 164 billion dollar company taking 1 man so serious if he hasn't got a case ? surely if he was doing a fraud the facebook lawyers would disprove him in minutes.
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Sue his you know what off
leod1961 16th Aug
Zuckerberg and his piece of crap Facebook is good for a few things. But the rest is purely garbage....for showing people's egos, allowing hackers to spy our every move, to have governments monitor, to allow people all over the world to start flash mobs and create miniature organized crime gangs, and so on. And that is to say the least, not including having our privacy completely open to every one in the world. Thank god, I come from a technology background as I am well aware of all the security risks of social networking including the media component. The internet is a dangerous and hostile area, and Facebook is just taking advantage of all its weaknesses.
@ntflavio06@...
as Ceglia provides excuse after excuse, claims he lost all of his USB drives containing his "proof", then claims that they hacked his computer and planted the false evidence on it.

Then adding the fact that Ceglia has perpetrated cons in the past, and it appears that 4 law firms to date have dropped him and his case as clients is pretty compeling argument in Zuckerberg's favor.

Hopefully Ceglia will be thrown in jail and fined for attempting to perpetrate yet another con.
plain
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@Mister Spock how do you know that he has not lost his usb sticks and that facebook hacked his computer ? after all facebook is a billion dollar a year online company with the scills and expertise to hack into computers especially when you consider the fact that Zuckerberg is a self described hacker ! and how did he perpetrate cons ? becaause his company took too many orders that they couldnt deliver on time ? and the fact is that Ceglia paid every dime back that he owed to customers or he delivered them their products ! and lawyers dropped him because of fear of facebook ! remember facebook is now a part of the establishment so when you attack facebook the establishment attacks you ! hopefully Zuckerberg will be imprisoned for the fraud he has committed !
@ntflavio06@... Facebook doesn't allow the gov't to spy on people. People publish information to Facebook and anyone can monitor it.

Here's a clue for you:
THE INTERNET IS NOT ANONYMOUS!!!!!!
@FrackAnon Hear hear. The internet is NOT anonymous and was never intended to be since the moment of it's conception. A lot of people don't seem to understand that.
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For sure...
cosuna 17th Aug
@ntflavio06@... : you ate the same mushrooms Ceglia did... go ahead... pile the ammo and the groceries, as the end is near... we are being watch by every 'freaking' fellow in the government, for every 'fracking' reason... but they should all go... just to keep you mind at ease...
@cosuna
How do I know this? 30 years in the financial services industry, an area where privacy is better secured than most places thanks to law.

Of course, chuckleheads like Zuckerberg illustrate the roots of private sector irresponsibility with confidential information, they simply hate it because it doesn't serve their agenda.
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@ntflavio06@...

Facbook is great for connecting with people you haven't talked to in awhile but beyond that its full of garbage...and to the people that live on it disconnect and rejoin the real world! You're not a star and people could care less that you checked into Denny's for a 1.99 lunch.
No insider knowledge of the case of any kind here...but...reading about how Zuckerberg ripped off his college friends in starting FaceBook, it would not surprise me at all if he did it to someone else. Once a thief, always a thief. Just my opinion based on what I read.
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Wow.
m0o0o0o0o 16th Aug
That's all I've got. Wow. One or both of these guys is a real piece of work.
@m0o0o0o0o nt
@m0o0o0o0o
These guys deserve each other...
@m0o0o0o0o Both!
Sounds like one ******** suing another.

Facebook - you get to contemplate your navel as well as others.
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This guy's the equivalent of a patent troll. He should just get over it and go con somebody else. He smells of bullsh#t.
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No, it is not.
magallanes 17th Aug
@bugmenot@...
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@bugmenot@... do you mean Zuckerberg when you say con ? because Zuckerberg has a bigger con past that Ceglia especially when you take into mind that Ceglia didn't really con he just took too many orders for materials he was unable to deliver on time and the fact is he paid back every dime or he delivered the materials to the clients ! if he is a bullshitter then why is facebook taking him so serious ? after all you would have to be stupid to bring facebook to court on no evidence ! and Ceglia is not stupid considering his past business ownership before Zuckerberg could even spell business !
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@bugmenot@... Would you be willing to get over it as easy if you knew you had a legitimate case against a 164 billion dollar company? Think about it why is a 164 billion dollar company taking 1 man so serious if he hasn't got a case ? surely if he was doing a fraud the facebook lawyers would disprove him in minutes.
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RE: Exclusive: Paul Ceglia says Facebook is doing the forgery
LoverockDavidson_-24231404894599612871915491754222 17th Aug
So its kind of like a "my word vs. his word" situation? Don't those usually end in a stalemate?
@LoverockDavidson_
Not really. The one with the most money and can afford the "best lawyers" (there's an oxymoron) usually wins.
@LoverockDavidson_ and Mister Spock

You guys must camp out on these forums. Nary do I visit one that you haven't offered your input on, regardless of topic....just sayin'. = )
@Splunge

They're trolls, hired by Microsoft or zdnet. Either one. wink
@LoverockDavidson_ wow, its the first time Loverock says something of meaning, and with which I can agree with.
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don't count on it
erik.soderquist 23rd Aug
@antonfh

user name is wrong, the real Loverock doesn't have a trailing _ character, and has a space between "Loverock" and "Davidson"
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Scanned copies of the contract may help prove a case, but doesn't it all come down to the paper contract?

As I recall, Ceglia has the paper contract, and it has been examined by forensics experts. Their initial reports indicate authenticity, but there are still some tests that should be done.
@rubberbabybuggybumpers@... As I understand it Ceglia experts declare it authentic, Facebook found someone that said it a fake, like the Romulan from Deepspace nine when he discover Captain Sisco forgery.
Is it just me, or does Ceglia come off as one of those people who can't figure out how to turn his computer on in the morning?
@Aerowind
We call those 12 O'clock flashers. Every electronic device in their house is flashing 12:00. Sound like they deserve each other.
I really don't know how all this will play out, but it does seem plausible that Cegia & Zuckerberg started out together, & Z got the original idea from the Winklevoss twins. That being said, its not all that unusual to have one partner screw the others if the company makes it big.
Ceglia seems very determined to let the world know that Mark is a bad person even after all of the obstacles that have come his way. That tells me he knows something that everyone else does not. He knows that Mark is lying and has cheated others in the past.

Most would have already walked away at the thought of going against a huge company with unlimited resources.
if his story is true, it is too bad since he comes across as a lunatic. I doubt any jury would believe his story.
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I (and many people whom I know) are regularly "approached" by individuals on FaceBook who have no reason to want to know me, nor do we have anything in common, from what I can tell when I bother to investigate. My name just happens to be in someone's profile; and FB does the rest - pretending that the "request" is real, while it's more honestly just a phishing exercise to see whether I'll bite and sign on.
In addittion, we receive countless childish, inappropriate questions about whether we fancy someone in a group, or whether they fancy me.

I'm not interested in all this childish crap, but it seems that it's just not possible to extricate myself from this disastrous monstrosity. Zuckerberg should get life without the option of parole; and no electronic gizmos in his cell.... and that's just for stealing someone else's ideas and making billions. His intrusive actions deserve much worse...

Rob
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If so, I know how he can prove the images were planted on his parents computer. I assume the computer is in evidence or at least a forensically frozen image of the hard drive. If not, I have to wonder what kind of amateurs are running this investigation. Anyhow, Paul, if you are on the up and up you can win this thing. I doubt even Zuckerberg could have planted the files remotely and could fool someone who knows enough about computer forensics. Its not enough to plant a file and modify the date/time stamps.
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If pauls on the up and up...
techadmin.cc@... 17th Aug
Then I know how he can prove the images were planted on his parents computer. I'm waiting for my access code to login to his wiki.

Basically, there is a lot more to planting evidence on a persons computer than uploading a file with a modified date/time stamp. If the file was planted remotely I doubt it could stand up to scrutiny under a proper forensic investigation.

I wonder if the computer in question or at least a digitally frozen copy of the entire hard drive is in evidence and if the proper physical chain of custody has been observed in collecting and preserving the evidence. You'd be surprised how little the courts know about such things and law firms are able to walk into court with a print out of a file supposedly found on someone's computer by an "expert" who of course will testify that, in his expert opinion, his findings are that the evidence is conclusive.
Wow.

I am not too familiar with this case, but the first question I would have is why, if the contract was signed in 2003 would you wait until 2010 to bring it up? Facebook had a huge valuation long before 2010.

"I?m starting to have all sorts of opinions as to what I?ll do when I?m at the helm. Some might call it delusions of self grandure, you can call me what you like but if Thomas Jefferson was right and that- 'all tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent' then in good conscience when I?m at the helm I won?t let any government have the power to silence it?s citizens, especially during an uprising."

Oh, I get it. He's crazy.
What was it Oscar Wilde said? "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable..." As social networks are one of the more pointless, dangerous and socially corrosive inventions of recent times I think I'll not lose sleep over this issue.
Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook..... Duh! What has become of the world these days? Why is everyone so hypnotized by a thing that just overflows with people that simply tell others how many times a day they take out the garbage, sweep the floor, drink a cup of coffee, get a headache.... or....take a dump? We were all better off without the unnecessary news!
This is turning into the battle of the forgers. An both guys have been caught red handed before.

I wonder who will come out on top this time.
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Is this actually a news event?
shawkins 17th Aug
Sounds like a soap opera / reality show.
bugmenot@

No one likes a fan boi - go post about it on facebook or something?
What I think. Having dropped Facebook recently from as high an altitude as I could reach....my desktop, I really don't care. I am a network professional and fully understood the issues going in so didn't leave anything hack worthy. Mark Zuckerberg is a classic old school hacker. Trying to hack his way into the world doing what he does best even if he breaks a few things along the way. Bill Gates did the same bloody thing as well as Steve Jobs and Shawn Fanning (Sean Parker did not develop napster). And everyone blamed them for everything. Then suddenly, Jobs became Christ reborn at Apple and developed his cult following that saves his bacon from the crimes he's committed. Bill Gates retired. Shawn...well he is doing a social network for mobile. All thats left to take any blame in the biz is Mark Zuckerberg. Paul Ceglia is some out-of-the-blue hothead trying to make right his mistakes of yesteryear buy imagining things as he would like them. And prosecuting a scheme like other cons he has played in the past. As a distant observer, I think this is an act of two cons don't make it right. They are both shams against humanity as far as forwarding human interaction and social mores. They both deserve punishment. I believe Ceglia should get a spanking and Zuckerberg cash out and retire.
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Zuckerberg at it again
GetYourFactsStraight89 Updated - 23rd Aug
To even try to suggest that a digital copy of the contract has as much validity as an actual paper contract that has been forensically tested is just nonsense.why when it is well known of Zuckerberg's forgery past and well known self depiction as hacker do all these media outlets just act as if we should just believe him? once again the media takes the side of power against the smaller fish !
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