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Facebook won’t remove The Third Intifada page against Israel

By | March 28, 2011, 2:36pm PDT

Summary: Facebook says it will not remove The Third Intifada fan page, created by Palestinians to start an uprising against the citizens of Israel, but will instead monitor it.

Update: Facebook has now removed the Page in question; Facebook backpedals: removes Third Palestinian Intifada Page against Israel. The previous story is below.

In an attempt to leverage the recent momentum of Facebook-powered revolutions in the Arab world, a Palestinian group on Facebook openly advocates another Intifada against the citizens of Israel. Established less than a month ago and titled Third Palestinian Intifada, the Facebook page has already amassed over 300,000 fans.

Intifada has several definitions, depending on its context and who you ask. Strictly speaking, it means “to shake off violently” in Arabic as one would shake off a scorpion. Others define it as a revolt, primarily by Muslims against non-Muslims who rule a particular country where Muslims reside. To be even more specific, it often refers to an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel. Although they start off as non-violent, they never end that way.

The First Intifada by Palestinians occurred between 1987 and 1993. The military and civilian death toll is estimated to be 2,162 Palestinians and 164 Israelis. The Second Intifada by Palestinians began in late September 2000 and ended sometime in 2005, though it’s unclear exactly when. The military and civilian death toll is estimated at 5,513 Palestinians, 1,115 Israelis, and 64 foreigners.

The Third Palestinian Intifada calls for 1 million supporters to join forces in an uprising against Israel on May 15, 2011. It’s therefore not that surprising that Israel has asked Facebook to take down the page in question. Public Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs Minister Yuli Edelstein wrote a letter last week to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg asking him to think twice about the decision.

“As Facebook’s CEO and founder you are obviously aware of the site’s great potential to rally the masses around good causes, and we are all thankful for that,” Edelstein wrote. “However, such potential comes hand in hand with the ability to cause great harm such as in the case of the wild incitement displayed on the above-mentioned page.”

Facebook has responded and won’t take down the page, at least not in its current form. The company will, however, investigate individual posts and comments on the page that are considered problematic.

“While some kinds of comments and content may be upsetting for someone — criticism of a certain culture, country, religion, lifestyle, or political ideology, for example — that alone is not a reason to remove the discussion,” a Facebook spokesperson said in a statement. “We strongly believe that Facebook users have the ability to express their opinions, and we don’t typically take down content, groups or Pages that speak out against countries, religions, political entities, or ideas.”

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RE: Facebook won't remove The Third Intifada page against Israel
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 10th Oct
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bmobile40 Updated - 25th Jul
@bmobile40 and you are??
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Tsk tsk , let's throw freedom of speech down the toilet whenever it's about something that upsets our Jewish friends. Protalinski: how was your trip to Israel?
@bmobile40

There is absolutely no connection between 9/11 and the Palestinians so you extend your hate to all Middle Easterners? Did you also hate all caucasians because of Timothy McVeigh?
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threw parties and danced in the streets when they heard about it?
@Mythos7

And handed out candy to children in the streets.
@Mythos7 well they danced in the streets praising allah after 9/11, thats enough of a connection, plus hamas= terrorist and al quaeda= terrorist. they are all the same ilk. iranian funded
@frgough
Please define the word "they."

Racism, bigotry, and prejudice are what they are. And your statements are.

Congrats.
@Mythos7
I believe bmobile40's point was the rejoicing in the Palestinian street, indeed the entire middle east when the towers fell. How soon we forget.
@bmobile40 Please don't pollute the oceans. That's contaminated remains.
@bmobile40 Dumb Ass - What go's around also comes around. If Israel tossed all Palistinians into a tree grinder, Soon someone would come and toss All Israilie's into that same grinder. If you took the time to add up all of the dead on each side you would see that the ratio of Palistins is 7 or 8
times greater. I would L.O.L. if someone came and evened up the tolls on Israels side. People have Greate Big Mouths: They should learn to keep them SHUT !!! The World would be a much better place if the did !
@bmobile40 remind me please, what does 9/11 have to do with Palestinians?!
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unfortunately for us and our world, it still has several years before people become tired of it and change the channel, so to speak.
Americans espouse freedom of speech...except when such 'freedom of speech' works against themselves...then the clamps and hate come on as per your first reader's post. Makes the principle of freedom of speech ring pretty hollow does it not? And please...do not talk about 9/11 as a reason to put people in a grinder otherwise you are no better than those that have inflicted pain on you. How many innocent Afghans and Iraqis have lost their lives to 'Coalition' warfare...certainly much more than 3,000
@Bradish@... "Freedom of speach" and inciting violence are two different things. In America we have freedom of speech, but if your words ask people to hurt others, it's ilegal. Saying, "I don't agree with Israel and lets protest on May 15th" is very different then saying, "Isreal should be destroyed and lets kill as many Jews as possible on May 15th"
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@NeozeroMunky What about "Jews control the media"? Is that inciting violence or just saying the truth. Well, I think it's the latter, but don't tell that to those who got crushed for daring to say it.
@NeozeroMunky
I'm cautiously entering this conversation just for clarity. The Supreme Court has held on more than one occasion that freedom of speech cannot be legislated, regardless of how hateful the speech is. Of course, one poster here would be prosecuted: "toss them in a tree grinder and then dump their remains in the ocean as fish food."
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@nomorebs

"Jews control the media"

Bull.
Care to back up that idiotic and misinformed statement with FACTS?
@NeozeroMunky
"? but if your words ask people to hurt others, it's ilegal."

Please take a course in civics law before posting. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@windozefreak
"Of course, one poster here would be prosecuted: "toss them in a tree grinder and then dump their remains in the ocean as fish food."

Under what law or regulation, pray tell?
@Bradish@... are you retarded??? do you know what intifada is? i was in israel during the 2nd intifada 10 yrs ago. a bus was blown up by a suicide bomber around once a day. when does calls to commit murder and suicide bombers become freedom of speech???
@rocketboy5114

Are you? Do you know what over-generalization is?
"Freedom of speach" and inciting violence are two different things. In America we have freedom of speech, but if your words ask people to hurt others, it's ilegal. Saying, "I don't agree with Israel and lets protest on May 15th" is very different then saying, "Isreal should be destroyed and lets kill as many Jews as possible on May 15th"
@NeozeroMunky Infitada does not mean being violent to others (despite the column reference), rather it is rejecting and opposing (protest on May 15th as above)...but others on both sides have their own interpretations no doubt. Throwing others into shredders I would agree as being not just illegal (in the US) but immoral everywhere. So go back to the first post and give him...heck...for his statement of inciting violence. It's illegal as you say.
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what he means is "go kill some Jewish children."

But you already knew that. You just don't like jews.
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@Bradish@...

No it is not.

Please people, read up on 1st Amendment precedent before making these erroneous blanket statements.
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Being Jewisn is no excuse for being a bigot.
Lester Young Updated - 29th Mar 2011
@frgough@...

This business of playing the ant-semitism card to foreclose objections to your bigoted statements is getting old. So where's your objection to the post that called for throwing Palestinians into wood chippers?
@frgough

You are in NO position to speak for other people.
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Understand the context.
Lester Young 29th Mar 2011
@DeusXMachina

It's a reductio ad absurdum response to a previous post.
@Lester Young

Indeed.
According to the article above, about 7,600 Palestinians and 1,200 Israelis were killed. I'm just making a statement the dead Palestinians is about 7 times more than the israelis. That does not count when Israel attacked Gaza. And that does not count the number of unreported dead. So... how many people are killed in the 9/11? Sorry, I don't know how many died there.
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@asdacap
which leads to my question for those that would fight Israel- How's that working out for you? If Allah were supporting you in this struggle, wouldn't you be getting better results? Muslims and Jews have learned to share the Holy land in death, why not share it in life?
@HeatGeek

A question to ask the Israelis. Israel has the power, all the Palestinians have is the power to inflict relatively minor damage ( not that I seek to belittle any death). If Israel would stop building settlements in the occupied territiries and give Palestinians some hope of genuine statehood, then there might be some hope of peace. However, currently Israeli politics are dominated by the ultra orthodox outlook that Arabs are the Amalakites, to be smote " twixt hip and thigh. Why should there be goodwill toward Israel when there is none from Israel. Another point, I am much against Israeli government policy, but I am not an anti-semite (I have been involved in clashes with the National Front because of their anti-semetism). To oppose the racist and expansionist policies of a middle eastern government is not to claim members of a particular religion are inherently sub-human. It's a tired tactic, and unworthy of a serious debate. Oh, sorry, I forgot this was an online argument...
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to stop trying to kill Jews. Or were you trying to imply the Israelis started all this?
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@frgough@...

The British (with Allied complicity, after having promised the Arabs that fought against Hitler support for the establishment of an official Arab state, in Palestine) and Israelis DID start all this.

Your knowledge of history is lacking, at best.
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Read "The Revolt" by Menachem Begin
Lester Young 29th Mar 2011
@frgough@...

He admitted that the Irgun was deliberately driving Palestinians off the land using terror tactics. It's been going on at least since the Deir Yassin massacre. Israel uses somewhat softer tactics now, turning a blind eye to harassment and murder of Palestinians by Jewish settlers and sabotaging the Palestinian agricultural economy.
@asdacap ok, heres the deal. when you have hamas terrorists shooting rockets from a kindergarten, what happens when israel targets the position where the rockets come from?? they shoot a kindergarten. well guess what. i feel bad for the palestinians, because hamas deliberately shoots rockets from homes and schools just to garner world opinion. hamas are animals. main reason why so many people are killed.
@rocketboy5114

You clearly know next to nothing about any of the issues on EITHER side of this topic.
Oh NO! Someone is disagreeing with Israel on facebook!!
Shut down the internet! Quick! Now!
Facebook page supporting Palestinian intifada pulled down

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/29/palestinian.facebook/
It never hurts to keep an eye on your enemies. Better to have the terrorists posting in a public forum where they can be tracked.
As Golda Meir once said, "There can only be peace when they [the Moslems] love their children more than they hate us."
As Benyamin Netenyahu observed: "Disarm the Arabs and there will be no more war. Disarm the Israelis and there will be no more Israel."
As Eric Gordon observed: "The Jewish people have produced over 60 Nobel prize winners in arts and sciences. The only contribution the Moslems have ever made to science is the mathematical concept of zero. So it can truly be said that Moslems have contributed nothing to the betterment of humanity."
@DaveDean
Yeah lets forget about the modern decimal system, algebra (the word itself is arabic!) and all the other contributions from the arab world, that were the ones responsible for protecting a vast store of human knowledge while European Christians were intent on destroying it.

Netenyahu is an idiot, Eric Gordon is a sycophant, and you, apparently, are both.
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Good Points
sboverie 29th Mar 2011
@DeusXMachina
Good points about Arabic contributions to knowledge. Unfortunately there is an ongoing effort to demonize all Muslims for the actions of terrorists. I am glad you spoke up against these ignorant remarks.
@DeusXMachina I'm sorry, but there was beauty in that post. I swear that if you bring up a Foreign Policy argument and say something that even sounds like "Israel", people will flock to Ben Netenyahu's musings as if he were God himself. As for Meir, being a racist from a slightly older time does not make her opinion any more valuable than the winos in front of convenience stores.

Honestly, quoting Israeli PMs for words of wisdom in regards to the psuedo-occupation of Palestine is like having a Vegan describe the perfect Bacon Chili Cheeseburger.
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The sex-crazy Arabs are now after Israeli women, having tired of Indian, Russian and American women. Of course, they are doing it against oppression of their homeland. But everybody knows what their final goal is.
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Lets not forget, that according to Islam, the very existence of Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians constitutes oppression.
@harishkumar09@...
Let's not forget that you are an idiot and a bigot, who doesn't know what he is talking about.
Care to quote a passage from the Q'ran that backs up your claim, or are you just regurgitating talking points you overheard on FOX?
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Muslim Contribution to Humanity
sboverie 29th Mar 2011
@DaveDean
I do not support the Israelis or the Palestinians because they are caught up in mutual agression that keeps spiraling into more deaths and destruction. Both parties are at fault and it will take both parties to work out their own solutions.

In every society you will find a mix of decent people and bad people. It is wrong to judge globally for the faults of a small minority in any group.

History shows that Muslims did a lot for humanity in the past. The Muslims preserved many books from the Greeks and other cultures that were brought back to Europe after the crusades; those books contained information that helped drive the Renaissance and led to democracy in the US.

Muslims gave humanity much more than the mathmatical concept of Zero. They gave us Algebra and other ways of working out math problems. Muslims and their forefathers were advanced astronomers and many stars have Arabic names plus they believed that the Earth revolves around the sun before it was conjectured in Europe.

Most of these contributions to science and humanity happened hundreds of years ago during a high cultural time that has brought the resentment of many Muslims that they have fallen so far from being more advanced than Europe was during the crusades.

I am not a muslim but I give them the same respect I give any religion. I am an agnostic.
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The page is not calling explicitly to violence. It's all about interpretations. If you look for references to violence, may be you'll find them. But it must be searched.
Without having read that page isn't all this an absolutely empty discussion?
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RE: Facebook won't remove The Third Intifada page against Israel
jackson1984-24316069205748857739440257893812 10th Oct
?I trust you realize the way you can compose a positively nflshop first rate publish. Many thanks!

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