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Has Facebook won the web war against Google?

By | April 21, 2010, 4:57pm PDT

Summary: Privacy issues notwithstanding, Facebook goes full force past Google in driving forward the semantic web

Facebook today launched its latest missile in the war against Google for the trophy of world wide web domination. At F8, the company’s developer conference, in San Francisco, CEO Mark Zuckerberg introduced the company’s “Open Graph”, which essentially extends Facebook’s “like” feature to a multitude of external web sites, allowing users to feed their activity back into their Facebook news feeds. It also gives brands and site owners the ability to better track demographic data of the users visiting their sites. With this feature, Facebook has made a huge move in driving forward the semantic Web — something that Google failed to do with Buzz.

“Facebook has won the Internet,” said Damon Cortesi, CTO and co-founder of Untitled Startup. “Facebook has always been social, but in terms of dominating the Web over Google they have made strides today.”

Thus far, companies such as Yelp, Pandora, CNN.com and countless others have installed the “like” feature. Levi’s has even built a dedicated Levi’s Friends Store that includes “like” options for all of its items. When a person “likes” a Levi’s item, or even “recommends” a CNN story, it not only shows up on the user’s Facebook profile, but on the brand or news web page itself. Moreover, if a Facebook user has already “liked” the item, his or her friends will see that when they visit the external site.

Apparently it takes all of 10 minutes for a Web site owner to implement the Open Graph feature into its digital presence.

“The ease by which you can now integrate Facebook onto your site is a ridiculously simple proposition to any web site owner,” Cortesi said. “For one, it doesn’t take long, and two, you now have the world’s largest social network talking about you. Why wouldn’t you do this?”

Brands who implement the “like” feature and play into the Open Graph can add a Facebook token to their Web sites that claims ownership of a page, and then can leverage Facebook’s “Insights,” which is essentially a mini Google analytics. They can then get demographic data, such as gender and age breakdowns, as well as frequency of shared pages.

“This type of data for marketers is huge,” Cortesi said.

While a step forward, users cannot forget the privacy implications of this type of feature. Privacy still remains the unknown black hole of the semantic web, and the ability for brands to make Facebook integration even easier will create an explosion of Facebook inclusion on web sites. This could lead many users even further down the path of allowing themselves to be potentially profiled.

Next: What about the privacy issues? –>

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Jennifer Leggio, aka "Mediaphyter," writes about the "social business" side of social media - including enterprise, security and reputation issues.

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Jennifer is employed full-time with Fortinet, a leading network security appliance vendor. She is also actively involved in the network security community and works with the Security Bloggers Network. She co-manages the annual Security Bloggers Meet-UP at RSA Conference.

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Jennifer Leggio

Jennifer Leggio (@mediaphyter) has been a communications professional for more than 15 years, focusing primarily on enterprise technology and security. She is currently the director of strategic communications for a leading network security vendor. Jennifer is also passionate about all things social media, especially enterprise, security, privacy and reputation issues, which is why she writes about these things for ZDNet.

A well-connected communicator, Jennifer has led or supported interactive social networking efforts for security industry conferences including RSA Conference, Black Hat USA and SOURCE Conference, and founded the Security Twits, a community for network security professionals. She also helps run communications for the Security Bloggers Network.

Finally, Jennifer co-hosts the Quick'n'Dirty social media podcast with Aaron Strout, is a founding member of Technically Women, a communal blog project, and manages marketing and public relations for Silicon Valley Tweet-Up, a networking group that raises money for family-oriented charities. Jennifer was profiled in Silicon Valley San Jose Business Journal's "40 Under 40" edition, as a rising star for 2009.

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good idea about facebook
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Facebook vs Google
Guardian Angel 1969 21st Apr 2010
If ever I want to know anything about rocket science I'll be typing the
words into google before I ask any of my 'friends' what they think it is.
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When I think of Google I NEVER think of social
interaction. I think about finding concrete info.
I think about Facebook when I want to quickly
share something with all of my friends. Facebook
can very well be the center of the web and I
pretty much figured thats where it was going
anyway. What does that have to do with Google? I'm
doing most of my FB interaction on a device
powered by Google's OS. What does that tell you?
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RE: Has Facebook won the web war against Google?
just-do-it Updated - 21st Sep
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Not with me, it hasn't. Hell will freeze over and windows will go open source before I open a fb account.
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sorry dude
nessrapp 22nd Apr 2010
everyone is on fb...
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Maybe most web users have an account, but...
Fred Fredrickson 22nd Apr 2010
how reliable is the information Facebook is selling?

I supplied only the absolute minimum information to open an
account and as little as possible is accurate. The can try to track
me all they like, all they will get is junk statistics. Anyone who
pays for that is being misled.
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Sorry Dude
Stan57 22nd Apr 2010
Sorry Dude but no,everyone is not on fb
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Sorry dude...
Dave32265 22nd Apr 2010
I'm not on fb (and never will be) and neither are quite a few people I know. So, no, not everyone is on fb
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Enough people for Google to take notice
John Zern Updated - 22nd Apr 2010
and try ther own aborted attempt at social networking. (Buzz)

Remember, Google wants "everything about everything available to everyone".

How much more social does that get?
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I don't even...
Dave32265 Updated - 22nd Apr 2010
do this "Buzz" thing either. If I want to keep in contact with friends and relatives... well that's why I have a phone and email account.
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not so much...
Fletchguy 22nd Apr 2010
No everyone is not on facebook just loosers and 10 year old kids or people over 40. Most people have lives and know better then to use facebook which is so full of security issues its riddiculous..
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Wow
designmethis 22nd Apr 2010
Have you heard of college students? You should meet one. That is how it all started.
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Not Everyone
Enorton42@... 24th Apr 2010
I am not on it and never will be. I think it's a
BS site to begin with.
@designmethis, RE: "Have you heard of college students? You should meet one. That is how it all started."
smart college students started this, and i have a feeling smart college students will end this. i am in high school, but from my perspective, people are the least "sheeple"-like in college/university. so i would imagine that the exodus will start with them,
Facebook may have won a huge battle against Google, but they have lost me. I've decided to leave Facebook, and focus all my on line presence on my blog, Twitter and LinkedIn.There's nothing on Facebook that I want.
@znmeb i am totally doing the same thing. except my blog gets zero traffic lol.
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FB Zuckerberg says Privacy is Not Normal?
bowlasoup Updated - 21st Apr 2010
Facebook wins nothing if they keep making my private info public. I don't like how they play with the rules.
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but the question is
TxM2xTx 22nd Apr 2010
You say they won't win. But will you go as far as to give up Facebook ?
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and the answer is
DevonS 25th Jun 2010
@TxM2xTx
i will. in fact i did already. try it, its easier than it seems. seriously, i used to be addicted to it and thought it would be impossible to stay in touch with people without it. now i talk to people using something called Talking To Them In Person, a communication protocol that has a much higher level of interaction than most text-based communication methods. i also use phone, email, twitter, and a blog, giving me all i really need for comm.
Zuckerberg is a moron that will soon aggravate the majority of Facebook's users to the point of open rebellion. As soon as the exodus begins Facebook's days will be numbered. The internet is littered with the corpses of yesterday's "really big thing" (see AOL, GeoCities, et al).
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*like*
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Really, come on.
trance2tec 22nd Apr 2010
So adding a "like" button somehow means Facebook is taking over the world?
@trance2tec yes. in a big way. google uses bots to go look for pages that are "good". facebook gives us a "like" button, using humans instead of bots. they crowdsource the search process. this like button will, if facebook gets their way, ultimately lead to a more "human" search process. also a less accurate search process. do you want to ask your friends about rocket science? (stole that last sentence from Guardian Angel 1969
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"win" the internet?
CobraA1 22nd Apr 2010
"'Facebook has won the Internet,' said Damon Cortesi,
CTO and co-founder of Untitled Startup."

I didn't know there was anything to win about the
Internet.

And I didn't know that Google was really competing
with Facebook. They seem to be very different products
for very different purposes.

"Facebook has made a huge move in driving forward the
semantic Web"

Ah yes, the "semantic" web. A term that has pretty
much lost all meaning. I have really no idea what that
means anymore.

"something that Google failed to do with Buzz."

I will agree that Buzz has been pretty much a failure.
Unless and until they allow people to use something
besides their real names from their profiles, I'm not
gonna bother to use it.
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Agreed....
storm14k 22nd Apr 2010
This whole Google vs FB thing really seems to be
fabricated by bloggers. Google claims to want to
organize the world's data. FB is trying to
organize the world's interactions. Both can be
done without competing with each other.

I also agree that Buzz in general is failing. Its
a pretty cool service for Android users however.
But I don't see using it outside of that.
@CobraA1 "Unless and until they allow people to use something
besides their real names from their profiles, I'm not
gonna bother to use it."
...facebook does that too? and i use a psuedonym on my buzz account. fb's only advantage is momentum.
@CobraA1 "Unless and until they allow people to use something
besides their real names from their profiles, I'm not
gonna bother to use it."
...facebook does that too? and i use a psuedonym on my buzz account. fb's only advantage is momentum.
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RE: Has Facebook won the web war against Google?
horusbedhetys@... 22nd Apr 2010
No. FaceBook has made a big splash that is about to ebb to a mere flow. Why? Because, first of all, many people using FB do not like the limited choice of the "Like" button; you will see over the next year that FB users will more and more, desert this site as they become aware of the privacy issues they face by using this service. If they are having a war against Google, they have won a battle...at best. The rest of this is media hype.
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Yawn. WGARA about "Liking" some miscellaneous link?
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Fcaebook is for preteens and old people
Fletchguy 22nd Apr 2010
Come on seriously anyone who uses facebook has no life just as bad as the loosers on twitter blogging they took a dump..now Im driving...I see a rainbow lol its like they gathered all the loosers gave them FB and Twitter and they all are now tracked. its good though as you know instantly if someone is a loser just ask "Hey you got a facebook page or twiitter account?" if they say yes you know to avoid them as thier intelligence is very low lol
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Ridiculous
designmethis 22nd Apr 2010
Some comments shouldn't be made. Apparently the info you gathered to make this opinion was inaccurate. You must be talking about a small group of people you have known. Are you caught up with today's latest techs? Find the world's best and most of their sites will include facebook, twitter, and more. Therefore whether they like it or not, it has dominated for the most part and feels necessary to stay up to date with ever growing trends in technology.
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Facebook is good for all folks
surfnschultz@... 22nd Apr 2010
FB has kept me in touch with people I lost track of years ago. Friends I really missed I can now connect with again. My daughter uses it and I get to see what she is posting and help her understand what is good and not good about FB and any other technology that is on the internet. This a tool and can be used properly when understood and use correctly. The new changes might be very good, would you like to know say your wife likes, or kids likes what do they have as favorite items you could provide for xmas, b-days.... I find it very interesting the new changes open some security questions, but if you only put out there what is true why worry, and never post cc info or cdl or ss info
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and privacy concerns as well. Have you even read the TOS you must agree to? Sorry but my pics, comments, and life are owned by me, not fb, MS or anyone else.
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If You Have to Go on Facebook for Info on Your Wife...
CFWhitman Updated - 23rd Apr 2010
If you have to go on Facebook for information about your wife and kids, either you or they are spending too much time in cyberspace.
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I used to think that way....
storm14k 22nd Apr 2010
....but I finally decided to try out FB and found
that its not like that at all. Its a pretty great
tool for keeping up with the lives of your
contacts and sharing the parts of your life that
you would like to. The type of stuff you see on FB
is really based on the type of friends you keep.
Google = search the entire web, doesn't require any
personal data

Facebook = conversations akin to a loud, drunken private
party in a bar, requires personal data and a lien on your
soul
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Rama.NET 22nd Apr 2010
>>Google = search the entire web, doesn't require any personal data

If you use it only for searching without into iGoogle or GMail or like then you are right, otherwise, google is also after you for your personal info. Look both FB and Google are businesses and they are responsible to make profits. So they ultimately are interested in knowing more about you, so that they could sell something you might not need. for that matter this is true with Apple, MS or any other business out there.
--Ram--
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RE: Has Facebook won the web war against Google?
justthisguyyouknow 22nd Apr 2010
"?Facebook has won the Internet,? said Damon Cortesi, CTO and co-founder of Untitled Startup."

Damn, how can I get paid to talk out of my ass like this? There's one single winner on the Internet? (It sure isn't this Damon guy.) Facebook makes an announcement about something that a lot of thinking people on Facebook probably won't like, and somehow they 'win'?

Sheesh.
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Wishful thinking instead of reporting.
terry flores 23rd Apr 2010
If all bloggers did was repeat outlandish claims and marketing hype, they would be out of readers pretty fast. There are a number of bloggers I don't bother to look at anymore because of this.

As for Facebook, like any tool it can be misused. Our company uses a service that searches sites like Facebook for feedback on employees and potential employees. The number of people rejected for hire because of their Facebook content is growing, and we walked some people out the door this year because of "conduct unbecoming" using our company name in a public forum (and Facebook is public, not private communication).

The Internet is always evolving, and companies like Facebook will always be looking over their shoulder for the "next big thing" that will displace them. It may or may not be Google, and it could well be two geeks in an apartment in Iowa somewhere that do it to them.
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RE: Has Facebook won the web war against Google?
TonyCecala Updated - 23rd Apr 2010
I think the "Like" feature is killer. It's the "commenting" taken to a logical
bit-like extreme (0|1).
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Like, Who Cares?
nottheusual1 23rd Apr 2010
I'm sure it will be important to more people than I realize, but why should I care if DipWad23 liked his 501's?

Hopefully the narcissism bubble will burst and people will realize how little everyone else really care what they are doing every minute of their shallow existence.

Go read a book to a kid ....
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That's like saying I win the monogamy competition against Tiger
Woods:

1. Google is not trying to do what Facebook's Like does.

2. There is no existing competition for this arena, Facebook just
went off on its own tangent in the footsteps of Digg.

This article is irrelevant and retarded (like a bomb, not a person).
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I don't think Facebook is going to replace traditional search engines like google and yahoo - people use them separately and there are those of us who use Facebook strictly as a means of communication with friends. I'll happily stick with yahoo and Buzzdock for email, search and realtime
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I think vast majority of people use Facebook
strictly as a means of communication with friends.
Personally, I don't think much other value in
using FB. Besides, its UI is awkward and non-
intuitive.
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Here's what is wrong in that FacebookWeb: Facebook
attempts to become a single center of operations. The
main principle which Tim Berners-Lee introduced to
Internet the very reason why WWW became so successful
is distribution. Web explicitly avoids to have a
single point of control. Is it peer-to-peer
communication or is it a communication through
servers, there are usually many duplicating ways to
connect. There is no single database which ties in the
Web, there is no center. That's why Web is scalable
and dependable, that's what to certain degree ensures
Web's neutrality.
Yes, social graph is a powerful thing. But as always,
a key is common protocols. Instead of having a single
center of command (which Facebook aims to become),
scalable Web architecture needs multiple areas which
have common interface protocols.

Sure, small cites cannot afford developing their own
social graph functionality, they can delegate it to
Facebook, but generally speaking it is better if there
will be multiple portals offering such a delegation
services, or lending / offering for free standard
social graph tools .
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RE: Has Facebook won the web war against Google?
Joey1058 Updated - 24th Apr 2010
I don't see a lot of difference in data mining between Facebook and Google, IMO. What seperates the two is the people that use the two services. Google has been consistently nibbling away at Microsoft, never paying attention that Facebook has been consistently nibbling away at Google and the wannabees. You have three camps: Business, which Microsoft has cornered. Family or personal, which Google can recite backwards, and now Facebook has the third camp, which is an unexpected wild card, social. And the ironic thing about social, is that Apple more or less created the catagory with the iPhone.

Data is data is data. I expect that Facebook will eventually aquire a minor search engine, then there will be three giants in the industry instead of two. And we all know that 3 is a prime number. Facebook is not going away.
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