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Foxconn suicides: Time for fair trade electronics? Would you buy a fair trade iPhone?

By | May 27, 2010, 8:39pm PDT

Summary: Will global media attention on stressful working conditions at electronics manufacturers result in “fair trade” computers and gadgets?

A Fair Trade notebook? - image by Damien Van Achter

A Fair Trade notebook? - image by Damien Van Achter

The suicides at Foxconn have highlighted the issue of highly stressful working conditions in the global electronics industry. Foxconn has responded with psychologists, punch bags, swimming pools, and asking employees to promise not to kill themselves.

But these moves do nothing to change the actual working conditions. Suicide numbers are a big red herring because even if they go down, huge numbers of workers will still suffer from low wages, long hours, and many other tough and unhealthy working conditions.

A recent BBC documentary series, “Blood, Sweat and Luxuries” took six young British consumers and placed them exotic locations working in the same jobs as locals, and having to survive on the same wages.

It’s an eye opening series because it showed the horrible work conditions that billions of people face daily, every week, for years, and decades. These were strong, healthy, young British adults, yet they would pass out from the back breaking work, suffer panic attacks, and many other maladies, after just a few hours on the job.

They carried huge amounts of dirt in Ghana’s gold fields; they processed leather in stinking abattoirs in Ethiopia; they dug deep holes in coffee plantations; and they had to work in an electronics factory in the Philippines where workers prepared tiny components for disk drives, processing one component every 3 seconds.

If they even took a moment to glance up from their tasks, or be distracted, they would fall behind in their quota and have their wages docked. It was incredible how much work had to be done for so little money by so many people. And the reason they were paid so little is that the electronics factory had to accept tiny profit margins in order to win its contracts.

All the large tech companies such as Apple, Nokia, Dell, etc have agreements with their suppliers that they do not employ children, and that they will abide by certain standards to protect workers. But it’s not clear how these are monitored, enforced, or how much in common they share across the electronics industry.

What is common across the electronics industry is a relentless focus on reducing manufacturing costs, and the largest manufacturing cost is labor; which is why employees are pushed to work faster, while maintaining high quality work, and at the lowest wages acceptable.

We reap the benefits in the form of cheap digital gadgets, gizmos, and computers. We have absolutely no idea about all the blood, sweat, and human suffering that went into creating our digital devices.

For the six young Brits that took part in that five week program, the experience was life changing. On their return they made big changes in their life styles, some changed their diets, and they all changed their buying habits. Some raised money and collected clothes and books for the families they met during their stay. And they found a new respect for Fair Trade goods.

One of them said that she used to dismiss Fair Trade coffee as some kind of marketing ploy, a trendy fashion. Now she doesn’t, and is happy to pay extra because she knows it does make a difference in the lives of many people.

Would you buy a Fair Trade iPhone or Android smartphone? Would you buy a Fair Trade Dell or HP PC if there were such choices? And how much extra would you be willing to pay?

And more importantly, what would it take for you to be assured that the Fair Trade premium was making a difference in the lives of electronics workers?

It wasn’t that long ago when PCs typically cost $5,000 and lots of people paid it willingly. These days you can pick up powerful notebooks for under $1000, and netbooks for under $400. And a $100 smartphone is more powerful than PCs from just a few years ago.

Surely, we should be able to afford to pay a Fair Trade premium on electronics without too much suffering on our part.

And hopefully, the global media attention on the Foxconn suicides will result in improved working conditions for millions of electronics workers, and Fair Trade electronics goods will become commonplace.


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RE: Foxconn suicides: Time for fair trade electronics? Would you buy a fair trade iPhone?
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If Apple has proven one thing it is that selling to idiots is very profitable!
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I will gladly pay
timiteh 28th May 2010
for a fair smartphone(more likely a Nokia) or computer. However i need to be sure that the premium price i would pay for such device benefit to the worker. Because a company such as Apple (or Sony or even Microsoft) is already making its customer pay a premium price without any benefit for the worker who built the products.
Thus i need to be sure that the premium price, i am ready to pay won't be used to increase profits of companies which already big enough profits.
@timiteh I've lived in developing nations, sometimes for years, and I'm going to tell you one thing: even if the extra money you paid to MS, Apple, or Sony went to the factory that actually produced the product, virtually none of that money would get to the workers. Every single one of them would still be making $5-6 a day for 70 hour weeks. Your money would go into the manager's new BMW, and that car might be worth more than the worker would make in a working lifetime.

What's the solution? I'm not bright enough to say, really. Maybe tying "fair trade" wages to GDP per person?
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I won't buy Apple products because of this
NonZealot Updated - 28th May 2010
Apple can choose to continue killing innocent people in the name of profit or it can cut to the front of the donor line and get a heart like Jobs did with his liver. Which will Apple choose? Something tells me it will continue to be unsafe working at an Apple Foxconn plant but hey, you'll be able to pull that iPad out of your pocket (oops, it isn't portable enough) to show that you have more money than brains so good on ya!
@NonZealot
You are a disgusting human.

To take a tragedy like this to push your personal agenda makes you a pig.

This company makes electronics for almost all the major electronics vendors but you single out Apple because you have a beef.

We don't know all the facts about what is going on at Foxconn yet so in the meantime try and develop some class.

Your hero,
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I'll take that as a compliment
NonZealot 28th May 2010
@maskman01
When I get called a pig from someone with a moral compass as messed up as an Apple zealot's, I take that as a compliment.

And I single out Apple because all of these tragic deaths are happening to people who work on Apple products. The combination of Apple's secrecy police (who are probably responsible for some of these deaths and are covering them up as suicides) and Jobs insisting on them working crazy hours for no pay make Apple responsible for these tragedies but I wouldn't expect a heartless Apple apologist like yourself to understand that. Try to develop a soul.
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@NonZealot

So a guy who has a single Apple device and the remainder are a mix of Ubuntu and MS is an Apple Zealot? Wow.

Between that comment and your opinion formed on this issue you have displayed no ability to perform analytical thinking.

I stick with my assessment. You are a disgusting human being looking for an opportunity to push your personal vendetta. You don't care how classless you are doing it.

This issue is bigger then Apple or any other tech company.

Grow up.
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And I stick with my assessment
NonZealot Updated - 28th May 2010
@maskman01
You are a disgusting, soulless Apple apologist.

This issue is bigger then Apple or any other tech company.

But with $50 billion in the bank and a market cap larger than any other tech company in the world, Apple is in a unique position to actually do something about it. But they don't. They, like you, are soulless jerks who don't care about the blood they have on their hands as long as it means another dollar in their bank account. No amount of soap is going to wash that blood out from under your fingernails.
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@NonZealot

I feel sorry for you.

You don't really get the issue. I thought it was just you salivating at the mouth for an opportunity to trash Apple. Looks like I was wrong. You are just too dumb to get the situation.

My apologies. Now that I understand your limitations I'll go easier on you.

Your hero,
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Apple is an easy target...
oncall 28th May 2010
@maskman01

No sacrifice for NZ to preach from his soap box and declare he will never buy from a company he already hates.
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I accept your apology
NonZealot 28th May 2010
@maskman01
My apologies

Glad you've seen the error of your ways. Being the classy kind of guy that I am, I accept your apology. happy

PS I love how you think that your little insults affect me in the least! happy
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@NonZealot

...and thank-you for proving my point.

Your hero,
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Likewise
NonZealot 28th May 2010
@maskman01
Thanks for proving my point!
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@my hero
NonZealot 28th May 2010
@maskman01
That you still think your little insults hurt my feelings. I'm still here buddy!! happy
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It's a bit unfair to single out Apple for criticism here, anything that's made outside of the USA or Europe, and isn't stamped FairTrade is made by slaves working in similar conditions, often worse.

The BBC documentary is worth watching, its a shocking wake-up call showing the price the worlds' poor pay to provide us with cheap consumer goods.
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How has Fair Trade worked...
oncall 28th May 2010
For coffee? Coffee seems simple enough (compared maybe to assembling parts from around the world for a computer). From what little I have read it really hasn't had a large impact. Probably because while you or I might choose Fair trade while standing in line for Starbucks for our home coffee, the big purchasers, like McDonalds, are the ones who could really make a difference. Likewise an individual buying a single PC might opt for fair trade but the ones who could really make a difference are the ones who buy PC's by the 1000s and for them only one thing really matters: bottom line price.

Well, for myself yes I would pay extra for "fair trade" but I am very pessimistic about its success. I mean, things like this have been popping up for many years now. There is a brief media brouhaha, people get all riled up and a few "poster-child" companies are singled out for a quick PR thrashing of no lasting consequence, and then everyone goes back to "value shopping".
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The problem with paying extra is...
NonZealot 28th May 2010
@oncall
Who is pocketing the extra dough? Buying Apple is hardly "value shopping" so one might expect that some of the extra money you pay Apple would get passed down to the people actually making Apple's products (since Apple doesn't actually make anything). Nope. All the workers at an Apple Foxconn plant get is extra police snooping through their belongings.

Apple is more responsible because with $50 billion in the bank and a larger market cap than anyone else in the industry, they can actually afford to do something about this problem. That they don't do anything about this should be criminal. Jobs should be behind bars.
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oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

What was that about that "Apple is a tiny niche product with an insignificant market share" you and others like you keep waving around? You go right ahead and keep your "fake rage" focused on Apple rather than the industry and your own buying habits. That way Apple can toss out a few token PR releases, maybe even throw up a web page describing what they are doing to improve labor practices. The rest of the industry can relax and go back to what they were doing before. You can go back to buying whatever computer parts you were buying before confident that you don't really give a rats rear how they were made as long as they were cheap.

Besides that Macbook you own do you have any idea what the labor practices are of the other companies you purchase from?
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Double yawn
NonZealot Updated - 28th May 2010
What was that about that "Apple is a tiny niche product with an insignificant market share

Apple is a product? Since when? Oh, you mean Apple sells more than one product and holds varying amounts of marketshare depending on what product you are talking about? Saying "Apple is a product" is pretty dumb.

That way Apple can toss out a few token PR releases

Glad to see you admit that Apple isn't doing anything to resolve this situation. Like I said, Apple is more responsible than others because they have the most ability to do something about it. That they refuse to is very telling of their corporate ethics (or lack thereof). We are more forgiving of someone who steals food to keep from starving than we are of a rich pig who steals food because they don't feel like paying for it. Apple is the rich pig stealing food because they simply don't feel like paying for it. With $50 billion in the bank, Apple could lead for once.
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oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot
"Besides that Macbook you own do you have any idea what the labor practices are of the other companies you purchase from?"

Let me guess your answer. You don't know and you don't give a rats rear. Do you? Come on "big talker", what are you personally going to do? Hmmmmm....
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NonZealot 28th May 2010
I'm personally going to boycott the largest offender (Apple) and the offender most capable of making a real change (Apple again).

What are you going to do about it?
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What am I going to do about it?
oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

You're going to boycott Apple? A company you already despise and whose products you don't buy anymore, how magnanimous of you. Way to take one for the team. Instead I guess you'll buy from HP maybe a computer made across the road from another sweat shop? I am sure the workers will sleep better knowing that.


As for myself? Not much at all. I don't consider China a backwoods government so if the Chinese government is unwilling to enforce its own laws, and Chinese citizens are unwilling to demand better, and consumers such as yourself are unwilling to make any meaningful sacrifice the point is moot. As I said in my first post, if "Fair Trade" products come to market I will give them added consideration in my purchase decisions. But see I am not the one here accusing others of low morals and no ethics.
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NonZealot 28th May 2010
You asked me what I was willing to do and I answered. I have purchased an Apple product in the past so I will buy Apple when the product is right. Should Apple correct their ways, I'll be more than happy to purchase another Apple product if they are ever able to make anything as good as the MBP again. If they continue with this behavior though, they will continue to have lost me as a customer.

And I will continue to accuse Apple of having no ethics as long as they continue killing people for the sake of obscene profits. Apple could cut their profits in half, stop killing people, and still have the largest market cap of any technology company in the world but why would they when they have a legion of apologists who are willing to explain away every egregious action they commit? You are part of the problem.
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oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

See, now if you had said a little white lie like "I will only buy computer products from companies that strongly and demonstrably promote best labor practices" you might have had me. But you didn't. OK, you won't buy Apple, BFD. That's like me saying I will buy McDonalds hamburgers rather than Burger Kings (when I prefer McDonalds anyway), meaningless and empty because I haven't given up a thing.
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Not meaningless at all
NonZealot 28th May 2010
That's like me saying I will buy McDonalds hamburgers rather than Burger Kings (when I prefer McDonalds anyway)

So why do you prefer McDonalds? That's the trick. If Apple would behave more appropriately, I might prefer them. Part of the reason why I don't prefer Apple is because of their behavior. I would, otherwise, prefer to buy stuff like the MBP but their lack of corporate ethics and my superior morals prevents me from doing so.

With 4 AppleTVs, a Mini, and countless other Apple slave labour products, you have a lot of blood on your hands. That you are actually proud of that is even more disturbing. I'm glad you don't live in my neighborhood.
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oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

"I'm glad you don't live in my neighborhood."

Amen to that.

But please stop the "I would buy Apple" you are so completely full of it and anyone who has followed these boards for any amount of time knows that.
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But please stop the "I would buy Apple" you are so completely full of it

The iMindReader? The device itself is quite simple. If anyone says anything that is against the hive, the iMindReader tells you not to worry because that person is lying.
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oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

I seem to remember you crowing about how the MBP was a better "hardware value" when you bought it not all that long ago. But correct me if I am wrong here. Apple's labor practices and behavior really wasn't part of the decision making equation, at the time. Was it? Nor did I see you standing for labor practices when Microsoft was in the hot seat a few months ago for using "slave labor" for it's products. You know, back when Microsoft was the "biggest tech company". Since you use Windows, how did that turn out? Oh you're concerned NOW is that how it works, but not then, and not tomorrow either. But it works for today.
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Thanks for destroying your own argument
NonZealot 28th May 2010
I seem to remember you crowing about how the MBP was a better "hardware value" when you bought it not all that long ago. But correct me if I am wrong here. Apple's labor practices and behavior really wasn't part of the decision making equation, at the time. Was it?

No, but I wasn't aware of all the Foxconn suicides that Apple caused at the time. If anything, you are helping me prove my point. I am willing to buy Apple products but I now refuse to until they cleanup your act. Your whole argument used to depend on me refusing to buy Apple products no matter what. Congrats, you just destroyed your only argument.

Since you use Windows, how did that turn out?

Are you seriously comparing the type of labour used to make a software product and the type of labour used to make an electronic gadget?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! MS's employees and contractors are treated far better than Apple's contractors at Foxconn which is why Apple's contractors are all killing themselves and MS's contractors aren't.

Apple is now the tech company with the largest market cap and they are also the tech company that makes the most use of slave labour because all of Apple's profits come from items that are manufactured by that slave labour. Most of MS's profits come from items that are "manufactured" (if that is what you want to call coding a software product) by a skilled, well compensated work force. While MS does manufacture a few items, they don't do it on a scale that is even remotely close to Apple. Apple needs to clean up their act because they are the biggest and the baddest. Then we can start focusing on the little guys like MS.
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oncall Updated - 28th May 2010
@NonZealot
"MS's employees and contractors are treated far better than Apple's contractors at Foxconn"

Of course you know this because.....

Oh you're right of course Microsoft makes only Windows and doesn't make any hardware like the Xbox which might also be made at Foxconn. Or the teenagers making Microsoft's mice. And Foxconn wouldn't be putting any PC's together from the likes of HP or Dell that also have Windows on them. Nope you go living the dream dude.

You're almost scary and I mean that in a bad way.
Microsoft makes only Windows and doesn't make any hardware like the Xbox

Guess you missed (or purposefully ignored):
While MS does manufacture a few items, they don't do it on a scale that is even remotely close to Apple.

Reading 101 buddy.

Of course you know this because.....

Because they aren't killing themselves, unlike Apple's contractors.

Logic 101 buddy.

Like I said in my last post:
Apple needs to clean up their act because they are the biggest and the baddest. Then we can start focusing on the little guys like MS.

Apple is the biggest and the baddest. MS is now the cute and cuddly underdog. Let's take care of the big bad 8,000lb gorilla (Apple) before we worry about the handful of Zunes that MS makes each year.
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Nice find oncall!!
NonZealot 28th May 2010
Now, can you find where I said MS was totally blameless? No, of course not. For the third time, I'm admitting that all of them have a problem and for the third time, you display your shocking lack of reading comprehension. What I'm saying though is that MS is nearly broke and that Apple has billions in the bank (so the Apple zealots tell us) so Apple should be a leader here. MS's contribution to the problem of slave labor is miniscule compared to the damage Apple is doing.

PS I don't own a single MS mouse or webcam and haven't in years. I prefer Logitech. :P You, on the other hand, seem to have multiple copies of every single product Apple has ever produced. If I happen to have a tiny drop of blood on my hands, you are drenched to the top of your head in the blood of the slave laborers that made the products you buy from Apple. Shame on you.
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Oh I am drowning in it
oncall 28th May 2010
@NonZealot

I will console myself tonight by enjoying surfing the web on my iPad and watching a movie with my kids on my Apple TV.

There, feel better? I know you do. Let us know how your protest works out though. I am sure Foxconn is already boarding up their doors assuming they cannot fill the void of lost Apple sales with sales of the HP Slate or something wink

You be sure not to buy anything from Foxconn now.
@NonZealot You keep singling out Apple like they are the cause of it all - and yet Foxconn also assembled devices for Dell, HP, Nintendo, etc... and no, Apple does not have a secret plant - they just expect and pay for extra security. And for all of your ranting and complaining about Apple did you not read the part of that article that says the suicide rate at Foxconn is LOWER than the average number of suicides in China? And why should JOBS be behind bars? Is Foxconn now owned by Apple? And why is this solely Apple's problem when the other corporation are also doing nothing to stop this? While this is an issue, this is NOT the Apple issue you are attempting to make it out to be but instead it is a far greater issue. Your vendetta against Apple and your posts here make you looks like a frothing at the mouth zealot. Besides, if the security at Foxconn bothers people so much they have the choice not to work there.
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smartin007 28th May 2010
What a douche you are.
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Wow you guys are classy.
I wish someone would explain to me how slave labor can build higher quality products than American union labor who have far better pay, benefits, and working conditions.
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It's assembly line work
oncall 28th May 2010
@aep528

Quality has very little to do with it, it's all about costs. There is absolutely no possible way, even if the final products made by US workers visibly glowed with their own inner perfection, any US worker can compete with that kind of labor cost differential.
we got rid of the fair? trade laws decades ago. let's not go back to that mess. all it did was keep prices artificially high. it did have the good effect of bring about the birth of the big box and disount stores. the earliest i can remember was ' two guys from new jersey" who ran afoul of the pennsylvania sunday blue laws and would not back down forcing the ending of such stupid laws. decades later texas, in the 1970s, still had them, maybe still does. sort of a backward state anyway
all it did was keep prices artificially high.

Apple would raise prices, claim that they were passing the price hikes to the workers, and then simply add it to their $50 billion bank account.
Only solution is to make imports from companies who treat their employees like slaves illegal.
This would result in a better standard of living for foreign employees, and the resulting higher cost of imported goods would give OUR companies something nearer a level playing field to compete on.

Would consumer goods become significantly more expensive? I think yes up to a point, but retail can only charge what the public are willing to pay. Perhaps more expensive consumer goods would help reduce the ludicrous amounts of perfectly serviceable equipment we throw away every year and some of the pollution and personal debt the whole crazy 'throw-away society' generates.

It makes me angry, why the hell should people have to live and work as slaves just so we can all have a new cell-phone every few months? We abolished slavery? BS, we just shipped it abroad & out of sight.
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hiraghm@... 28th May 2010
What this tells me is that Brits, and westerners in general, have become soft.

If you think these conditions are so terrible, I suggest you have a look at the construction industry in the U.S., especially those companies employing illegals.

You can thank unions and "community organizers" in the U.S. and U.K. Artificially jacked wages, benefits and such wonderful perks as pregnancy leave and equal employment laws have encouraged producers to go where they can get, not just reasonably priced labor, but a source of near-slave labor they hadn't known existed.

But, no tariffs, no trade wars, uh-uh.
And don't seal that border or sanction employers who hire illegals; you can't export construction or harvesting jobs... can you?
@hiraghm@...

We haven't become soft, we just stopped treating people as paid slaves, if it wasn't for the relentless efforts of the unions from the start of the 20th century we would be working in the same conditions that Chinese slaves do today (btw I'm not a socialist).

Can't export construction & harvesting? Really? Most of the low paid construction workers working on the UK Olympic sites are migrant workers. A couple of years ago a large number of illegal Chinese slave workers drowned in the UK while harvesting cockles.
@hiraghm@... point by point

What this tells me is that Brits, and westerners in general, have become soft.

To some extent I agree with you - we have all become entirely too dependent on technology but at the same time there is the old saying "work smarter not harder"...

If you think these conditions are so terrible, I suggest you have a look at the construction industry in the U.S., especially those companies employing illegals.


And WHO makes those conditions? I have worked construction in the US and I can tell you about the conditions from firsthand experience - experience from being on the same job as illegal immigrants and sure there is a lot of hard physical work but at the same time they are allowed water breaks, given lunch breaks, decent places to eat lunch, they don't work through lunch or past their quitting time unless the job goes into OT... sure they get paid less than an American citizen would doing the same job but that is because of the greed of the contractor more than anything else.

You can thank unions and "community organizers" in the U.S. and U.K. Artificially jacked wages, benefits and such wonderful perks as pregnancy leave and equal employment laws have encouraged producers to go where they can get, not just reasonably priced labor, but a source of near-slave labor they hadn't known existed.


Oh so I can think unions for paying me a fair wage, making sure I have decent working conditions, making sure I have the right tools for the job, the right training, and making sure that I am safe doing the job? Absolutely! And I can also thank them for an 8 hour workday and a 40 hour work week with anything over that 40 hours being OT. I can thank them for making sure that working OT and Saturdays and Sundays is NOT mandatory and that when I do work those days I get paid OT to compensate. These contractors didn't go with illegal labor because of the unions, they went to illegal labor because they can pay an illegal immigrant less than minimum wage to do the work... and then pocket the difference so that the customer is not seeing the savings but the contractor who hired the illegal immigrants is seeing the savings. Nice try though... not.

But, no tariffs, no trade wars, uh-uh.
And don't seal that border or sanction employers who hire illegals; you can't export construction or harvesting jobs... can you?


By all means seal the border, sanction the contractors who are using illegal labor, deport the illegal immigrants... and give those jobs back to the American citizens who are out of work right now and have been for over a year. Did you not know that when a person's unemployment runs out they are no longer considered unemployed? So there are people who are out of work but the government does not recognize that... and there are companies who are hiring illegal immigrants every single day.
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Manufacturing
cpuwzd 28th May 2010
In the US, the high cost of labor first led to sophisticated manufacturing automation but, ultimately, greed drove the manufacturing offshore. This destroyed both the US manufacturing industry and the more specialized US manufacturing automation industry. If you want to support fair trade, first bring the manufacturing home. As it stands, we're turning the US into another third world country.
Great post, Tom:

As some folks have noted, Apple is in an important place to exert some leverage here. The problem for consumers for the post part is that the issue is so removed. In the same the environmental impact of consumer electronics seems invisible when consumers don't see the energy that goes into data centers or the piles of cell phones on river banks in China.

To change this, there needs to be three things:

1. A visible, consumer-led movement in the U.S. to bring attention to the problem.
2. Shareholder pressure on companies to adopt fair trade practices and human rights disclosures.
3. Fair trade alternatives that offer that label as a value add.

None of these will be easy. But starting a movement never is.
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oncall Updated - 29th May 2010
@robertmro
But that's how the game works. Somebody has to take a hit, that somebody is Apple. The game doesn't change. See, the media picks it's poster child and the public falls right in line, because we really love our cheap goods/coffee/ oil. So Apple will take a brief media thrashing, while the other companies that use the same labor are all wiping their brows "whew thank God it's Apple and not us". Apple will quietly take care of "its" problem and then publicly announce all the positive corrective measures. The other companies will immediate toe the line "we are 100% in line with Apple positive moves" knowing westerners have no real attention span beyond a week or two. The media will glom onto the next disaster and the game goes on with no real substantive change and that's pretty much it
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