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First impressions: Apple Safari 4 beta

By | February 24, 2009, 9:29am PST

Summary: Apple has released to public beta its Safari 4 web browser, and I thought I’d give it a hands-on spin to see what all the fuss is about. Here are my first impressions and review. Installation Quick and simple. The install file — offered with and without a QuickTime bundle, thankfully — is 25.5 MB. On install, [...]

Apple has released to public beta its Safari 4 web browser, and I thought I’d give it a hands-on spin to see what all the fuss is about. Here are my first impressions and review.

Installation

Quick and simple. The install file — offered with and without a QuickTime bundle, thankfully — is 25.5 MB. On install, three boxes are auto-checked: Desktop shortcuts, “Install Bonjour” and auto-update. I’m not a fan of auto-check tactics, so if you’re trying to avoid installing Bonjour, for example, don’t get too click-happy too soon.

Another note: Safari did not prompt me to import bookmarks from another browser. Thought that was an interesting omission.

The Look

It’s slick. Not extraordinarily pretty, but Safari 4 does attempt to break up the monotony that is Windows with an updated interface that isn’t a complete Mac knockoff like Safari’s previous iteration (those who skin their PCs like Macs will be disappointed). I use the classic theme on Windows XP, and you can see in the screenshots that there is an attempt to bring current styling trends to older visuals.

The Homepage

On first load, Safari populates its Apple-style visual link layout with popular sites in lieu of having browsing history to use. When you click one of the visual links, there’s a zoom/transparency transition to the new window, which is a nice touch. I wonder how that will react on slower machines.

One thing about the menu elements at the top — the bookmarks start on by default, but I don’t like to give screen real estate to that, so I turned it off. Google Chrome handles this problem by inserting your “pinned” bookmarks into the home page, in a bar-style format, just below the menus. Safari handles this problem slightly differently: instead of recreating the bookmarks bar, it allows you to “pin” (via the edit button on the bottom left of the page) certain visual links.

The Interface

One thing I notice, at least using XP’s classic theme: the tab boundaries are pretty hard to differentiate. There’s just not enough of a strong visual boundary between them, especially considering how narrow they are horizontally. Otherwise, the tabs are nice, but they automatically expand to fill the entire title bar (no transition) which I don’t like. Some people don’t like the fact that Google Chrome doesn’t immediately auto-fill the tab space; I do, especially when there are only one or two tabs open in the window.

Another thing about the tabs: the “close” box is on the left side of each tab, not the right — the location that other browsers usually put the favicon. I’m not against re-doing the formula for browser layout, but if you’re transitioning from another browser or use another browser on a regular basis, the switch will wreak minor havoc on your productivity.

What’s also interesting is how Safari deals with too many tabs. In this case, it gives you an ellipses and drop-down menu:

Finally, about those tabs: you can’t just drag a tab out of the main window, like Chrome, from any point on the tab. You must grab it by the little three-line corner (which is hard to do quickly on a high-resolution, large display, I should add) and drag it out from there. I’m a big proponent of not playing target practice with regard to layout and design, and I fear the narrow tabs and menu elements might be a little harder to use.

Full-screen mode is solid. Since the top menu and title bar are narrow as it is, you get a nice amount of screen real estate to browse with. On the other hand…

…unlike Google Chrome, the status bar isn’t a “pop-in” — that is, it doesn’t show up only when you need it, and instead is the old-style approach: on, or off. Safari installs with the status bar off by default (interesting decision, especially with regard to security), but for that reason I like to keep it on. On the other hand, the bar is very narrow and uses very small type, so it does make concessions for keeping it on all the time.

As a side note, the refresh button a little small for my taste. I ended up clicking the “RSS” element instead. Furthermore, the search bar that complements the address bar is nice, addressing one of the main complaints with Chrome. On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to be multi-use, which means that I can’t have Wikipedia or Weather.com as options for that bar like in Firefox 3.

The good news is the address bar takes all the good cues from Chrome, and provides a very useful autocomplete menu:

Finally: the download manager remains outside the main browser window, like Firefox 3, and is not integrated into the bottom like Chrome.

Here’s how Safari handles the integrated RSS button (when applicable) in the address bar, by the way:

The Performance

I didn’t do any hardcore testing (I’ll leave that to ZDNet hardware guru Adrian Kingsley-Hughes), but Safari 4 beta was as quick as the quickest I’ve used (in this case, Chrome). Back in March, it was reported that Safari 4 was the first browser to score 100%, or 100/100, on the Acid3 test. That’s a good sign, and I confirmed it testing it myself with the link below. (Chrome got 78/100, and the linktest failed; Firefox 3 managed 70/100.)

[test for yourself]

The Bottom Line…for now

If there’s anything to be said about Apple Safari 4, it’s that (on the PC, at least) it bridges the gap between Firefox and Google Chrome. What I mean by that is that it takes some of the innovative interface cues and styles of Chrome, but doesn’t push it as far as Chrome does in the “experimentation” category.

For the moment, each browser retains its unique differentiating qualities, though: Chrome is still the most barebones and experimental of the bunch, Internet Explorer is still extremely integrated with Microsoft services, Firefox still retains its mod-happy plugins, multi-use bar and “Save and Quit” tab memory.

No longer chained by the Mac look, Safari 4 beta is somewhere in between, at least on a PC.

(Safari 4 beta on top of Google Chrome; note the interface differences)

Of course, these are just first impressions — not the final judgment, especially for a browser that adapts to your browsing habits over time.

What do you think of Apple Safari 4 beta? [download]

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It could be beta!
The Management consultant 14th Sep 2009
I run it on my pc..the thing that really gives it nil pointes the illceived book mark system.Tracking and storing bookmarks is a joke.They disappear for ever and those which stay cannot be easally catelogued!Yes the pritty wall is a copy of compiz opensource.But Apple has always copied good ideas.Firer Fox is the best for really obvious reasons it and does not even run on opensolaris.
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I think it is innovative
NonZealot 24th Feb 2009
Putting the close button on the left instead of on the right is a brilliant move and just goes to show that once again, Apple is the most innovative company out there. Watch for them to patent this brilliant placement of the close button.
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Well, that's a bit old. Apple and Microsoft settled on the GUI long ago.
No More Microsoft Software Ever! 24th Feb 2009
Apple WAS the first to use the close button and it has always been on the left. When Microsoft copied Apple with the GUI elements (they settled it out of court eventually) MS put it on the right. You are just so used to Windows that you naturally think it is supposed to be on the right.
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When Microsoft copied Apple with the GUI elements ... MS put it on the right

Do you realize how ridiculous that statement sounds? You can't have it both ways.
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"Do you realize how ridiculous that statement sounds? You can't have
it both ways."


I know reading comprehension isn't your forte, so I'll clarify for you. He
was pointing out that Microsoft copied the idea of the interface button
itself, not its positions on the screen.
His statement basically boils down to: MS copied Apple except in the places where MS didn't copy Apple.

Quite frankly, the same could be said of 100% of all of Apple's products. Apple copied Creative when it built the iPod except in the places where Apple didn't copy Creative.
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the poster...
doh123 24th Feb 2009
the poster never said any such thing that you are claiming... why make
stuff up?
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All they have left
Richard Flude 24th Feb 2009
To not acknowledge the enormous amount MS ripped off from Apple's
GUI says much about the ignorance of the MS fanboy.

Technologies build on others, but in IT the history of MS "licensing" of
Apple's GUI technologies should be required reading as it gives great
insight into what became our most abusive monopoly.
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@Richard Flude Re: Microsoft
Arm A. Geddon 24th Feb 2009
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It is all he has.
Bruizer 24th Feb 2009
If he had to state fact, his world would crumble.
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No Zealot you can't have it your way.
Intellihence 25th Feb 2009
If anything Windows is a backward OS, everything about it is
backwards. I'll start with the start menu, it's on the bottom left, why?
Well Microsoft couldn't put it up on the top left, because Apple had it
on the top left for awhile. I'd continue to write, but this bull is old,
stagnant, & boring.



Why does this zealot continue to think in a backwards method, does it
believe that if it continues to repeat everything it has said over & over,
somehow it will be believable. Good grief you weirdo, you're making
ZDNET look like a pile of cow dung. Disappear for awhile, like I made
L.D. disappear for awhile back in the days.




"In a world without walls & fences, who needs windows & gates?"



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is not the same as the Mac top menu. The Mac top menu is just the menu of the active application. Switch to another app and its menu appears at the top.

The Start menu in Windows, which most users put at the bottom of the screen, has shortcuts for frequently used applications, small icons used to access small applets, and buttons to switch to active apps. There's also a column on the left side that lets the user run other applications. It's usually kept on the bottom of the screen mostly because each application can have its own menu, usually at the top of the application's main window, but not necessarily at the top of the screen.

The equivalent of Start on the Mac is the tray of icons for frequently used applications at the bottom of the screen. Since I don't use my wife's Mac very often I'm not sure whether those apps are all resident, or are just quick shortcuts as are used in Windows XP and Vista to start applications.
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Actually he has it right
use_what_works_4_U Updated - 26th Feb 2009
What he said was that when Windows was developed there was Start
button functionality in the upper left and he is correct. The Apple
Menu used to be much more customizable than it is now (out of the
box) and it had all the functionality of the Start button, and could have
more. The statement is historically correct.

You are correct that it no longer works that way as OS X changed it by
moving that functionality to the Dock. It's one of the things that
Apple did better in the original system software IMO. I use a system
hack called FruitMenu http://www.unsanity.com to get that
functionality back in the Apple Menu.

If you didn't use Macs before 2000 you would have no reason to know
how the original worked.
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I also love riling the Fanboi's who browse these blogs foaming at the mouth.
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Too complex a change very little gain
alkolkin@... 25th Feb 2009
Way too different to make it take the place of my FF 3.1 Beta 2 without more effort than it is worth. The Acid test for this version of FF is 93 and though it is also a tad slower than Safari, it is fast enough for now and sure to get faster when it comes out in the final release of 3.1 or 3.2.

My major complaint is that I do not have control over enough things as I do with FF, and my favorite add-ons are not ported to it.
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Loads
aussieblnd@... 25th Feb 2009
Loads Slower than firefox, and the browser freezes up frequently. Froze both first and second use then again after a restart in windows.
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Don't know if this is to amazing.
ChrisOPeterson 24th Feb 2009
I must admit that these initial screen shots have not made
me really interested in this browser. I prefer to use safari
on my mac because of its bare bones interface and
quickness when compared to FF. I don't really see how
useful all of these new visual interface changes are, it
seems like they are making the browser more complicated
when it really doesn't need that.
I will upgrade to it when it is officially released and give it
more of a chance then but not I am not going to download
the beta, sorry, not interested.
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On my Mac
tymiles 24th Feb 2009
On my Mac I find Mindfield to be as fast if not faster then Safari (With more features)

Mindfield is a Mac Intel optimised version of FF 3.

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Not just Mac Intel. If anything Mozilla and Google put the devs who rode the short yellow bus to school on their Mac ports.

Novelty OS' don't warrant the same resources.
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What?
dgurney 25th Feb 2009
"Don't know if this is to amazing."

To amazing? Since when is "amazing" a verb?
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He was mis-spelling the adverb too, thereby making it a preposition.
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LOL
LeeC 26th Feb 2009
I suspect since "Amaze" and its inflected forms were added to the dictionary.

As a clue, "you people are amazing me with your literacy skills."... see?
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RE: First impressions: Apple Safari 4 beta
endorphine44 24th Feb 2009
running side by side with Firefox 3.06, each with the same 8 tabs open that I use for work all day Safari was using at least 2x the RAM as firefox was. I like the new Safari, but my work computer is kinda limited on memory (1GB) and that footprint really puts a hurting on it. I think on a better computer with more memory it won't be a big deal and Safari will really shine.
So should Google take a page out of Stevie Boy's book, and SUE THE CRAP out of Apple?

That's what that bozo would do...and IS doing...to other companies who dare to use similar interfaces to Apple's.

Now who is in violation of intellectual property?

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If they were able to do that, you think Vista would've ever seen the
light of day?

The Apple patent you're probably referring to is much more complex
than interface design. Here's a simple explanation for you.

"Apple's patented invention translates imprecise user gestures into
precise, intended commands that are easy to use, configure and/or
adapt through heuristics (the trial-and-error based engineering
technique that reduces the calculations necessary to arrive at a
solution to a problem).

The heuristics disclosed in the patent allow electronic devices with
touch screen displays to behave in the manner desired by the user
despite inaccurate input by the user."

Anyone can use a touch screen, but to make it 'understand' what
you're trying to do involves complex engineering and software. Look
at the Storm, when you try to scroll, the list moves and stops; all
herky-jerky. Then look at the iPhone, it scrolls smoothly and obeys
the laws of physics; the harder you flick your finger, the faster and
further it scrolls then slows to a stop. It's the fine touches like these
that makes the iPhone's interface head and shoulders above all other
touchscreen phones.
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You missed his point entirely. (nt)
Mark-Twain 24th Feb 2009
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Gnutella Updated - 24th Feb 2009
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The laws of physics?
tikigawd 3rd Mar 2009
I'm pretty sure everything in this universe obeys the laws of physics. But anyway.

Then look at the iPhone ... the harder you flick your finger, the faster and further it scrolls then slows to a stop

FYI, that is not a feature exclusive to the iPhone. I have a device that behaves the same way that is not made by Apple.
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Opera 9.63 gets 85/100
chrome_slinky@... 24th Feb 2009
strange that it does better than most, yet so few use it. The IE and FF groupthink is very high.
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Yawn, no one cares. (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind 24th Feb 2009
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(NT)
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Here ya go!
Grayson Peddie 24th Feb 2009
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=safariweb.jpg

Look at the title bar in Safari 4. Notice the look of
a player behind the glass?

In my opinion, it's very slick! However, it's can be
pretty hard to read the glowed text that's in the tab,
but that's no big deal for me. I usually don't pay
attention to the title bar at the top of the web
browser, unless I'm a web developer.
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Disappointed
davebarnes 24th Feb 2009
Very pretty.
Some cool new features.

But, no Ad Blocking.
Goodbye.

I just love AdBlock Plus on Firefox.
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It's just chromium skinned
msadie 24th Feb 2009
It's Chrome or Chromium, same thing, has the same tell
tale bugs as well as very obviously just being a skin on
a Chromium browser. The most telling is of course that
it's Javascript is totally fubarred and doesn't work on
most sites properly. Even Safari 3 was better than
this.
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FUD is all MS worshipers have left.
Bruizer 25th Feb 2009
If anything, Chrome is like Safari being built on WebKit. As for bugs...

IE is the king of all of them with the worst support and implementation in
the industry. Not to mention, it is now dog slow in comparison to about
every other browser.
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Doesnt look very apple
custserv@... 24th Feb 2009
Looks like Chrome...
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Blasphemy!
Gnutella Updated - 24th Feb 2009
Cue the iBoi who'll remind you that WebKit is all Apple and that Jobs first thought of this UI when pinching an all organic loaf in his iOuthouse.
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So, Gnutella = NonZealot?
Marcos El Malo 24th Feb 2009
Or perhaps they were separated at birth? Same dad, different
moms? Or is it the other way around?

I'm pretty much convinced it's the same guy.
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System requirements?
Fred Fredrickson 24th Feb 2009
Where are the system requirements for Safari 4 Beta documented? I visited Apple's web site, followed the links to the download area and tried to discover if Safari 4 will run on my home Mac. Because I was using a Windows PC at the time, it kept taking me to the download page for the Windows version. All I could get in terms of system requirements was some very basic stuff on the types of graphics cards I'd need to support Top Sites and Cover Flow.

No matter where I searched or what links I followed, I always ended up back at the download page for the Windows version. Very disappointing!

Does it occur to Apple's web developers that people might be interested in details for platforms other than the one they are using at a particular instant? Or that I might download the software using one PC so that I can install it on another? Or that I might use a Mac to discover details for Windows or vice versa?

I've noticed lately that Apple are becoming control freaks and attempting to take decisions out of the hands of ordinary users for no good reason. They seem to be rushing head long back to the dark ages of browser sniffing and OS detection, then making choices for you that are totally inappropriate. MobileMe is a classic example of a seriously flawed "Web 2-point-oh" application.

Time for Apple to take a very hard look at the people designing its web applications and asked very basic questions about the strategies being used for development.
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System requirements here.
andrew.nusca 25th Feb 2009
Taken from my earlier post, which is the first link in this review:

System Requirements, Mac OS X: requires Mac OS X Leopard version 10.5.6 and Security Update 2009-001 or Mac OS X Tiger? version 10.4.11, a minimum 256MB of memory, and is designed to run on any Intel-based Mac or a Mac with a PowerPC G5, G4 or G3 processor and built-in FireWire?.

System Requirements, Windows: requires Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista, a minimum 256MB of memory and a system with at least a 500 MHz Intel Pentium processor. Full system requirements and more information on Safari 4 can be found at www.apple.com/safari.

More info here:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=1654
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RE:System requirements?
richdave 25th Feb 2009
>>>...I've noticed lately that Apple are becoming control freaks and attempting to take decisions out of the hands of ordinary users for no good reason...

Becoming control freaks!!!??? How deeply have you had your head in the sand and for how how long? They have always been control freaks, much more so than Microsoft.
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RE: First impressions: Apple Safari 4 beta
darreno1450 24th Feb 2009
I never liked Safari. I thought it was slower and buggy
and saw no reason to quit Firefox. But I must say I'm
impressed with this beta. So far all my usual sites
work even the multimedia ones and I was able to easily
customize the interface to my liking. Speedwise, IMO,
it's faster than IE but on par with Firefox although
sometimes, it does seem faster than both. This is the
first version to stay on my computer. Good job Apple!
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Like graphics.although I find coverflow worthless in this context..don't like the "most visited" concept..I prefer to set up like I want like I do with Firefox and SpeedDial.
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Chorme search an issue?!
fernande-zdnet Updated - 25th Feb 2009
I am confused about the statement

"the search bar that complements the address bar is nice, addressing one of the main complaints with Chrome"

One of the things I love from Chrome is that the search is part of the address bar. I can type whatever I want in the address bar and it will come back with the results from a Google search.

In all the other browsers you have to go to a "search bar" to type in your search.

I prefer the combination of functionality in a single bar.
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IE has been like that for years.
sjbinaz Updated - 25th Feb 2009
If you type in something which is not an address or that address does not exist and enter, you get a search using your default search. but you also have the search there also. Most users probably prefer having both.
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2 things...
stone-cutter 28th Feb 2009
first IE will search from the address bar (since 5 at least). It is cumbersome to change provider, but you can (since 6)...though honestly, does any one use it unless accessing sites that need some functionality (some aspects of SharePoint for example).
second the problem is around search providers...obviously if you want to use google it is fine, it is if you want others. So in FF I have the google bar for searching google, and set the search bar to Wikipedia (or M-W Dictionary or any other the many others I want to use).
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Just install iTunes...
Narg 25th Feb 2009
Just install iTunes and you'll get Safari whether you want it or not. Didn't MS get sued for this type of behavior?
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Got iTunes, but not Safari.
gypkap@... 25th Feb 2009
Apple no longer forces an iTunes user to install Safari. Good thing too--Firefox is much more usable.
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I got it, it is cool. But can not use it. It will take me to my Hotmail account and to my mail. But I can not open my mail. Are read it. Zip Zero! This happen to you????
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RE: First impressions: Apple Safari 4 beta
mario_reni_roldan@... 25th Feb 2009
I already installed and uninstalled Safari 4 Beta the same day, as I did with Chrome; Firefox is still in the computer, and of course, I cannot get rid of IE (I have 8 working now); my choice: OPERA. So, why didnt you at least name it? Download the latest version, learn mouse gestures, to use speed dial, the side panel, customize it easily as you wish, download some widgets, etc. and you will understand how unfair are most of the reviews and browser comparisons out there; it is not perfect, but weighting fairly all pros and cons, it does deserve to be taken into account, and as for Safari, Opera does now better what that programs offers for anytime soon. Mario Roldan, El Salvador, Central America
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It could be beta!
The Management consultant 14th Sep 2009
I run it on my pc..the thing that really gives it nil pointes the illceived book mark system.Tracking and storing bookmarks is a joke.They disappear for ever and those which stay cannot be easally catelogued!Yes the pritty wall is a copy of compiz opensource.But Apple has always copied good ideas.Firer Fox is the best for really obvious reasons it and does not even run on opensolaris.

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