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First look: HP Slate 500 with Windows 7 Professional

By | October 21, 2010, 9:02pm PDT

Summary: After months of waiting, the HP Slate is finally here. I was fortunate enough to get a hands-on look at the Windows 7 Professional-based tablet, and here’s what I found.

After months of waiting, the HP Slate is finally here. I was fortunate enough to get a hands-on look at the Windows 7 Professional-based tablet, and here’s what I found.

SET-UP

When I tried out the HP Slate 500, it was well out of the box and already set-up entirely. Being that I only got a chance to play with this 8.9-inch tablet for about 15-20 minutes, this is a first look, first impression review.

The HP Slate definitely felt heavier and sturdier than I imagined before picking it up. One and a half pounds isn’t astronomical, but when so compact, it certainly feels a bit like an ultra-slim brick.

Gallery: First look at HP Slate 500

Powered by an Intel Atom Z540 processor, the HP Slate 500 powers up like any other notebook or desktop running Windows 7 by hitting the button pictured above. There aren’t many buttons or ports around surrounding the edges, leaving most of the controls to the touch screen. But here is what you will find on the sides: an on/off switch, a power connector, an SD card slot, a USB port, a Home screen button, an onscreen keyboard tab, a headphones jack and volume controls. (Additional connectivity options can be found on the back of the included docking station, which includes another two USB ports, HDMI and a headphones jack.)

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Rachel King is a staff writer for CBS Interactive in San Francisco. Before serving as a contributing editor at ZDNet in New York City for two years, she previously worked for The Business Insider, FastCompany.com, CNN's San Francisco bureau and the U.S. Department of State. Rachel has also written for MainStreet.com, Irish America Magazine and the New York Daily News, among others. Rachel has a B.A. in Mass Communications and History from the University of California, Berkeley and a M.S. in Journalism from Columbia University, where she served as art director for the student magazine, Plated.

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RE: First look: HP Slate 500 with Windows 7 Professional
Jonathon13 19th Oct
@Jeremy-UK
You definitely don't need a windows machine to be compatible with your current system. Furthermore If you bought a machine that was delivered with a license for Win XP Pro (as an exemple), you don't need to buy a NEW license this machine
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Sorry but I don't see this having that much of a demand .... specially when the specs aren't that good and the OS is not good for a touch screen.

To make matters worst, it is way overpriced for a device that will have to be WIPE-OUT and an additional license for the OS must be purchased and installed (based on TFA) before it would be useful to anybody.
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@wackoae That's not how it works. When you're a corporate Windows customer you typically have to buy Windows for every system. It doesn't matter if it's already got an OS, doesn't run Windows or even can't run Windows. I remember talking to a rep (when I did this) and being told that I had to buy licenses for our PowerMacs even though they couldn't run Windows and we had no intention of running Windows on them! You do get very preferential pricing... but yeah, first time you hear it, it's a bit hard to swallow.

So wanting to blast the machines and install a custom image isn't the problem it might seem.
@Jeremy-UK

I think that you have misunderstood what the "rep" told you. You definitely do NOT have to buy new licenses for every machine that you have (even if they came with a license). If you bought a machine that was delivered with a license for Win XP Pro (as an exemple), you don't need to buy a NEW license this machine. You only have to buy a CAL for it. Likewise, you don't need to buy licenses for machines that cannot/aren't going to run windows (such as MAC machines). If these machines are going to connect to a Windows Server, then you have to by CALs for these machine, but these are NOT full licenses!!
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@Jeremy-UK : Although I see your point (my company does that and has standby images ready to be installed on a CAL basis), I also think this computer falls in mostly the same category as most other Windows-based tablets, that is a "solution looking for a problem".

The problem's that, in the past, companies had no other options. Right now they could save $200 and go the Galaxy Tab route or pony $300 less, leverage any upcoming App Store garden variety solution and go the iPad route.

Tragically, this new tablet does not showcase the Windows 7 and Intel's Atom duo, but rather just serve as evidence of how back they trail, in this horse race.
@Jeremy-UK
Just remember, in the end, Microsoft will always get paid.
@Jeremy-UK
Well in the US we call that an antitrust violation and predatory pricing - both illegal. That is only one of the reasons the US Gov sued Microsoft in Supreme Court of Delaware. Reult: Microsoft violated antitrust laws - stop and desist orders for requiring just as you described.
@nebc100 Yes, you do not need to buy a new license to new machines. No, corporations still do it as it is faster and effective way and they do not care about the license cost as it is less in big upgrades than what would use the licenses in stickers.

Corporations bought almost always a 2x more licenses what they really use. They do not care about the preinstalled Windows as they format the drive and they push their own image to them, where is their licenses preconfigured. Every computer what came with the Windows license is just for nothing. And workers can not even use those licenses in their home computer as they are OEM licenses and tied to that machine.

Microsoft makes billions just by that OEM preinstalled windows systems gets formated and corporation image gets in.

Smaller companies (1-9 computers) in other hand do it by hand and they use the OEM licenses mostly of the times. As they do not need automatic system installation with custom media installation.

Still, even that you do not need to buy volume licenses, they are cheap as water for corporations and it just makes their times faster and they even saves money by doing so. Microsoft gets just higer rate for the Windows sale rate and the market share, even that 30-50% of the market share is just air.
@Jeremy-UK That looks awesome! Looks so much better than the ipad 2 but I just want to know how usable it is? How does windows 7 actually run on the HP slate?
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@Jeremy-UK
You definitely don't need a windows machine to be compatible with your current system. Furthermore If you bought a machine that was delivered with a license for Win XP Pro (as an exemple), you don't need to buy a NEW license this machine
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@wackoae You don't HAVE to wipe out the OS. But most corporations want to install a customized Windows image with their applications installed.
Windows 7 has touchscreen support.
@Spatha
"Windows 7 has touchscreen support."
So did Windows 95 with the ELO serial device driver.
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@kenift Are you trying to be funny or merely ignorant??

Win95 did NOT have touchscreen support with or without an ELO - the ELO was just a stupid mouse surrogate - the device sent data to the OS impersonating a mouse

Win7 has full multitouch support built into the OS - there's no comparison
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Unless...
cornpie 24th Oct 2010
@Spatha I want to install the same set of software over and over again 55 (55 is the number of PC's in the organization) times.
@Spatha Windows 7 does have a touchscreen support like any other software system out there (the OS does not make difference is the input coming from mouse, pen or from touchscreen). But Windows 7 still isn't designed to work well with touch screens. The superpanel does have one nice small function (what you get when you swipe your finger up) but the whole Windows 7 GUI is still WIMP by design. It just does not work on touch screens. The whole GUI in Windows (all applications, desktop etc) would demand full re-designing to get it touch screen compatible. That is one reason why Apple does not bring touch screens in iMac or Mac Pro line as Mac OS X interface is not compatible for it because WIMP design. Thats why Apple made iOS, a totally different software system with same OS as in Mac OS X for the touchscreen devices like iPhone and iPad. The iOS GUI is not WIMP by design and it makes Apple mobile devices so great.

Microsoft got this in their Windows Phone 7 -series and in Zune. Even that they use CE as operating system in them and not the NT (MS use two different OS, Apple use just one) the GUI is totally different in the system. Thats why WP7 will work better way as it was designed for touch screens.

There are few F/OSS GUI's for other OS's like Linux what are designed for touch screens. One of them is the Android's GUI, Bada's, MeeGo and so on. Then there are Netbook GUI's what are designed as well for the touch screens. They work with other OS's as well than just with Linux. You can actually use HURD or FreeBSD as the OS with them. But the point is, the GUI needs to be designed for the touch screen, OS supporting it is not enough.
That is might be the biggest reason why Microsoft can not ever challenge competitors in tablets unless it use the dominant market position in corporation servers.
@Spatha Thanks for sharing. i really appreciate it that you shared with us such a informative post..
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A very useful device indeed.
provincialplace@... 22nd Oct 2010
@wackoae From cash register to mobile payment or inventory system. The docking interface will be used by third party to entend and connect the tablet to countless devices and extend it's useability. Don't worry it is not an ipad killer nor is it supposed to be. But it may make it even harder for ipad to get inside the enterprise. And you can be sure that Apple's hater will use it as an alternative to an ipad.
@provincialplace@... : Are you sure or just speculating.

It seems to me, that Enterprise, when shown the options will give the fact that iPad can only go down in price (as witnessed by the iPhone and also given the component count which is identical to the $99 Apple TV) and this baby will only drop a notch or two to avoid cannibalizing on Laptop and Netbook sales.
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Does not compete
Robert Hahn 22nd Oct 2010
I find it amusing that a month ago, anything that was flat and battery-powered was hailed as "the iPad killer," but now as these devices actually appear for sale, their manufacturers are all trying to hide from the iPad by ducking into niche markets. "Compete with the iPad? Not us! Ours is for the enterprise! We at Asymptote sell only to vertical markets! The Songsung is only for people who want the world's biggest cellphone. Don't compare us to iPad!"

I think these guys have looked at Android, looked at the supply situation for touch-screen displays and so on, and realized that Apple has 'em by the horns. The smartest thing to do is what HP did: appeal to the people who think they want a Windows machine in an iPad form factor. There will be some of those; Apple can't touch them; and they will expect to pay more. But an "iPad killer"? Not even close. If they sell 1/10th as many units, they'll consider it the best they could have done under the circumstances.
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@Robert Hahn Absolutely correct, I see you agree with the author, it is not competing with the ipad. This device not a toy. Though, it is friggin' expensive.
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None of these devices "compete"
cornpie 24th Oct 2010
@Robert Hahn When I iPad came out I thought it was way over priced for what it was. The Android and Windows based tablets coming out are even worse...yet my opinion of the iPad has not changed: too expensive for what it is. I won't be buying any of them.
@Robert Hahn: Actually, I've been using something "flat and battery-powered" since '06, before there even WAS an iPad. This device has much more in common with them and really looks more in line with the old Compaq slates from years gone by. HP killed the line when they bought Compaq, which caused much wailing. Personally, I always preferred the convertible, but the Compaq slate was a popular device and HP is way late on the promised successor.
@Robert Hahn The ipad will die, just like the iphone has started death marching. All because of Android.
@wackoae $800 is pretty steep. For $920 I got an HP TouchSmart TM2 Tablet PC which has a much better specs, plus the multi-touch capacitive screen, Wacom digitizer (must-have for Photoshop), 64-bit Win 7 w/ 4Gb RAM, fingerprint scanner, etc. Of course it has the twist/turn keyboard so I can use it both as a laptop or a tablet.
If HP's Slate was closer to Netbook prices, it would be a lot better.
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@wackoae

I agree... I don't see a demand or real market for this. Windows 7 is not designed for a tablet. This has been the problem since Microsoft first introduced the tablet many many years ago. I don't know what is it with these guys, but they don't learn from their mistakes. Microsoft thinks they can stick Windows into everything and people will love it. News flash.... people don't want a clunky, bloated, and slow OS in their mobile devices. Get with the times Microsoft!
@Masari.Jones,
"Windows 7 is not designed for a tablet."
The same way iOS is not designed for the enterprise. How do I manage 100s or 1000's of iPad? How do you secure an iPad for an enterprise? Can I add policies or restrictions via Active Directory+Group Policy? So it looks like W7 has many advantages not available with iOS, and that's the reason the Slate is focused in the enterprise.
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@dvm
Can't speak to your questions directly, but this business seems to have no problems managing 1000s of iPads.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9192398/Why_one_company_bought_4_500_iPads?source=rss_news

And plenty of others are using iPads as well.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17133/apples_growing_place_in_the_enterprise
@Synthmeister,
Very nice information. But, did you notice how they were using the iPad for?
"Medtronics would have had large and very expensive displays at its booth, but in this case it loaded up its iPads with product information and then put them on display"

"they offer instant access to data and video, a particularly important attribute when showing product information to customers."

I don't think they need a secure environment for that kind of use. Different from an insurance, medical or law firm environment, where a HP Slate can be secured when it is part of an AD environment. Again, how are you going to secure, restrict and manage an iPad?
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Wrong!!
archangel9999 22nd Oct 2010
@wackoae (1) Win7 works very well with multitouch - have had a multitouch tablet running it for a year and it's great - certain apps and websites that are specifically focused on mouse orientation can be a bit more challenging but if the iPad could run Mac apps it would have the same issue and of course Stevey eliminated many mouse oriented websites by not supporting Flash

(2) You do NOT have to wipeout the OS and reinstall - the idea is laughable - Rachel's comment is poorly worded (or she in fact didn't understand what she was saying) - while corporate users may decide to do a full SWimage for their own purposes, they still won't have to buy another license since the device already comes with a product key and anyone not wanting to re-image can simply use the device out of the box

I believe what Rachel meant to say is the HP hasn't loaded a bunch of crapware on it because large corporate users will (like their desktops) load a standard system image on all of their tablets for standardization.
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@wackoae - I am so sick of the price/quality whine. For only $100 more than 64gb Wifi iPad you get: 1. dock, 2. SD, 3. two cameras, 4. active digitizer, 5. folio case, 6. 1080p HDMI, and a real OS that can use real MS Office. And it is only 0.1" thicker - nice job faking slim with narrow edges on the iPad. Best of all, no more "work-arounds" to browse, view, and edit files.
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I need something more than a toy and this looks like it will fit the bill quite nicely. Great job HP and Microsoft!
@NonZealot This little puppy is going to be fine in vertical markets - but this isn't going to play anywhere else. SME's will totally ignore it. You want to run anything meaningful on a Windows 7 system with an Atom processor? No, neither do I.
hotter, this will have about about zero mass market appeal. And, we have not even got to the price yet!!!!
@Donnieboy
In other words - SHUT UP! Do a bit of research before you open your yap and insert foot.

Since when does 1.5 lbs weigh more than 1.5 lbs? Go look up the weight of an iPad. It's the SAME weight for the wifi only model. If anything, the iPad with 3G, which weighs in at 1.6 pounds is the one that's heavier.

So it's a few hundreths of an inch thicker. Big deal. It's got different dimensions. Given they made the screen a bit smaller, they made it slightly thicker. We're NOT talking a 1990's era laptop here.

As far as heat goes - Last I heard, there aren't any heat issues with Intel Atom chips. We're NOT talking about Intel Prescott Pentium 4s - those WERE good for turning your PC into an Easy-Bake Oven.

On the other hand, you can install the SAME version of MS Office (or even OpenOffice) on a Slate and have the exact same functionality as you would with a laptop or desktop.

So in that regard, yes, it IS an iPad killer - given the iPad's version of iWork tends to mangle your hard work by truncating stuff like footnotes, speaker notes and other things a business professional might find actually USEFUL...

So, to a useless layabout such as yourself who has no real job and obviously lives in mom and dad's basement, it's like a U2 spy plane flying so far over your head that you can't even see it's value.
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Size
archangel9999 22nd Oct 2010
@DonnieBoy - you should read the specs more closely - the Slate is exactly the same weight as the iPad (both are 1.5 lbs) and an insignificant 1.3mm thicker - same screen resolution, higher pixel density, and comparable computing power with graphics and HD video accelerators

The iPad is slick bit of engineering, but you only look a foolish kool-aid drinker when you spout BS
@Jeremy-UK
I'm keeping my eye on this.
Looks like a potential candidate for us much traveled folks....

It gets tiring lugging around a work pc (locked down) and a personal UL (ASUS).... I like what I'm seeing....

Nice potential....
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There you go Softees
Info-Dave Updated - 22nd Oct 2010
That includes you, Zealot. You've been dismissing the iPad, holding out for a real tablet. You got your wish. Pony up. Who needs a $250 netbook when you can have one of these babies?
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@Info-Dave ... glad you asked, so let me explain and I'll s-p-e-l-l it out for you nice and slow so you and DonnieBoy can understand it...

First, it's only $100 more than its closest iPad spec. Except a few major differences:

1. iPad lacks a dock and case, so add money for those too. Guess what just price matched the HP Slate?

2. iPad has 3G, that's a plus, but it costs you a contract. Add more money.

3. iPad lacks features that make it truly useful including but not limited to: pen-enabled input for note-taking and and alternate to touch typing, two cameras, a USB port, microphone and headphone support, SD Card Reader, more RAM, better graphics, and oh yeah, pretty much any app in the Windows ecosystem which still beats the iStore any day of the week.
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RE: First look: HP Slate 500 with Windows 7 Professional
DeusXMachina Updated - 22nd Oct 2010
@GoodThings2Life

Apparently, the person who needs things to be spelled out is you.

"1. iPad lacks a dock and case, so add money for those too. Guess what just price matched the HP Slate?

2. iPad has 3G, that's a plus, but it costs you a contract. Add more money."

Yeah, excpet you do not need to get the 3G version. get the Wifi-only model, and throw the case and dock in. You are now significantly cheaper, and the HP slate is not even close.
You are blatantly cherry picking.

"3. iPad lacks features that make it truly useful including but not limited to: pen-enabled input for note-taking and and alternate to touch typing, two cameras, a USB port, microphone and headphone support, SD Card Reader, more RAM, better graphics, and oh yeah, pretty much any app in the Windows ecosystem which still beats the iStore any day of the week."

Um, no, it's not. First, considering how many business are grabbing at them, seems they find them "useful" enough. Second, you just don't know what you are talking about. There are a plethora of styli available for the iPad, cameras can be connected via the 30-pin port, USB port is pointless, and can be had again with the 30-pin port, bluetooth headsets can work just fine with the iPad (and who is going to use a wired headset with at tablet, c'mon!) and the iPad has microphone and headphone jack anyway. SD card reader? 30-pin port. It only has 1GB of RAM, and by no stretch of the imagination are the graphics better. You just flat out made that up.
@NonZealot

I like it!!
@riceldi
Don't you need to see performance, battery performance, stability, quality of UI for touch, etc. before liking it or before dismissing it like others seem to be doing. It looks to have great potential if these things all pan out well, but they pulled this earlier in the year because they couldn't make it usable with a battery life of more than a few minutes and had no applications that were designed for touch interface.
@NonZealot
I agree that this should be very functional for business users who need that kind of power, and the stylus is a nice for folks who will want to write on it. (Too bad the stylus can't be stored in it or clip to it somehow.)
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@NonZealot That IS indeed a slick device with a killer OS but it's not an ipad competitor.

@Donnie Boy The article said the price is $799 and is available on hp.com. Just wanted to point that out.
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I don't understand why the OS is intended to be wiped out
Roque Mocan Updated - 21st Oct 2010
There are many vertical applications that were done on Windows slates from eons ago... and they would continue to work on this device. That said, the price point should be lower (there is an EEE convertible with multi-touch near the $500 range). This price is not much different from the bigger HP convertibles...
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olePigeon 22nd Oct 2010
@Roque Mocan Exactly. Why would someone buy one of these when they can get a tablet PC for the same price that also offers a real keyboard and mouse, something that's more useful with a desktop OS than your finger.

HP and Microsoft are just flailing blindly trying to come up with something to take on the iPad, but instead they're just rehashing ideas that haven't worked for the past 30 years.
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RE: First look: HP Slate 500 with Windows 7 Professional
Heatlesssun Updated - 22nd Oct 2010
@olePigeon

So please show me other pure slate devices that weigh 1.5 lbs with active Wacom pens that cost under $1000.

If you don't like pens or don't take free form notes or draw then sure you probably won't like this device. But for the activities I just mentioned there's NOTHING in the form factor, weight and price point.

I'll be buying two!
@olePigeon There are plenty of vertical applications that don't need a keyboard (if you're filling in a "checkbox" form, selecting from a lists). There are plenty of times you want to use the machine while standing...

This is a lot of uses. But the typical run of the mill stuff, hopeless at that.
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Honestly
Peter Perry 22nd Oct 2010
@olePigeon this is more practical than my iPad and guess what? It runs iTunes which means all your movies and music from there are compatible...

As for the device itself, the back of the unit has two USB ports for? Yep, you guessed, a keyboard and mouse.

The only issue I see is the weak Atom CPU.
@olePigeon I have a Touchsmart tm2 which I think is the same thing only mine weighs in at 2.5 lbs and a 12.1" screen and a C2Duo with 4G of ram and a 500G HDD and the battery lasts over 8 hours at only $100 more. I do think the pen works very well and as my handwriting is atrocious this recognizes it very well. If the price of this was around $500 I think it would be worth it.
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@Heatlesssun

"If you don't like pens or don't take free form notes or draw then sure you probably won't like this device. But for the activities I just mentioned there's NOTHING in the form factor, weight and price point."

Sure there is. It's called the iPad.
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Why this over a convertible?
archangel9999 Updated - 22nd Oct 2010
@olePigeon Because it's thinner and lighter than any of the convertibles - people have always paid up for thinner and lighter when it comes to portal PCs

For a lot of users this will be all they would need to carry - instead of lugging a computer bag to transport their convertible/laptop and a separate notepad

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