New Microsoft ad pits Zune Pass vs. Apple iTunes

Summary: The price point strategy that Microsoft has been pushing in its Laptop Hunters ads is moving into the downloadable arena with a new commercial touting that the $15 monthly price of Microsoft's Zune Pass service is far more palatable than a potential $30,000 in iTunes fees for the same 30,000 songs.Oh boy, here we go.

The price point strategy that Microsoft has been pushing in its Laptop Hunters ads is moving into the downloadable arena with a new commercial touting that the $15 monthly price of Microsoft's Zune Pass service is far more palatable than a potential $30,000 in iTunes fees for the same 30,000 songs.

Oh boy, here we go.

Not quite calling it an "Apple Tax," Microsoft is trying to sell Zune Pass as a more sensible way to listen to music: pay a little bit, get a lifetime's worth of songs; versus pay (sort of) a little bit, get one song.

Here's the ad:

The ad comes just as rumors build that the ZuneHD could arrive as early as June.

Why $30,000? (A fairly arbitrary number on the face of it, isn't it?) Since the 120GB Apple iPod appears in the ad, it's roughly the amount of songs that device holds.

But the argument is a heated one: is it fair to compare 30,000 songs for one month for $15 to $30,000 for the same songs for your lifetime? Do the math. Ars Technica did, and found that it would take you more than 166 years to come out at $30K on Zune Pass.

There's a potential snag in the operation, though. Ars outlines it:

As of November 2008, the Zune Pass allows its users to keep any 10 songs per month. In other words, if you wanted 30,000 songs for keeps, just like the iTunes Store, you would have to wait 250 years. The cost would be a whopping $45,000, however. In other words, it's only really worth it if you're OK with the fact that you have to keep paying the monthly fee to keep access to the songs that you don't yet own. Otherwise, iTunes (or any other à la carte model) is the way to go.

If you're an avid consumer of new music, the Zune Pass service is tempting. But if you only plan on purchasing 15 songs per month -- that's about an album and a few Top 10 hits each month -- you're being ripped off.

Where's the tipping point? Depends on how much "value" you put in a permanent iTunes license versus a Zune Pass monthly license.

But people like "owning" their own media, and do we really need another subscription and monthly bill in our lives? I wonder.

In the ad the narrator says, "People worry about the capacity of their iPod. What about the capacity of their bank account?" With Zune Pass, it's possible that each month I'll wonder the same thing.

Perhaps I'll be too busy listening to music to notice.

Topics: Mobility, Apple, Hardware, Microsoft

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily email newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Talkback

87 comments
Log in or register to join the discussion
  • Rent 30k tracks for $15 bucks and own 10 of em

    or buy 15 songs on itunes? I wouldn't use either service but I'd rather have the monthly access to all the music at once.
    snafu_77
    • Edit: Nevermind. [nt]

      [nt]
      olePigeon
  • RE: New Microsoft ad pits Zune Pass vs. Apple iTunes

    I subscribe to Zune Pass. It's amazing. I have 1980 songs currently (maybe 100 are ripped from CDs), that I've either used a credit to buy (you get 10 per month, no rollovers, though), or have simply downloaded for my $15/mo. I've had my subscription for maybe 2-3 years? That's about $360-$540 for about 1880 songs... Savings of $1340-$1520 in that time. I've lost my media once, and was able to redownload it all (including songs purchased with credit), and my tastes have changed some, so the loss of certain artists and songs was not wasted money.

    Again, Zune Pass rocks. (As does my 16GB Zune)
    simondshl@...
    • Zune Pass playlist

      Does that include the "Kool-aid" jingle from 1960?
      vikingnyc@...
      • Aww

        feel threatened because someone says they like the Zune Pass instead of bashing MS like the rest of the sheep?

        baaah baaah baaaah
        tikigawd
        • Silly Rabbit, Zunes are for dorks...

          Podcasting is huge.

          The iPhone rocks.

          Touch gesturing is better than anything else on the market.

          and

          Zunes are for dorks.


          Nuff Said, you lose.
          EdumacationIT
          • Oh no I'm a DORK?!

            [i]Podcasting is huge.[/i]

            And your point is?
            FYI: you can enjoy podcasts on a Zune too.

            [i]The iPhone rocks.[/i]
            mmkaaay
            I think the Zune competes with the iPod classic...
            I'm just saying


            [i]Touch gesturing is better than anything else on the market[/i]

            I'm guessing you also make fun of iPod classic owners.

            [i]Nuff Said, you lose. [/i]
            I shoooooooo do! I'll be crying in the corner with my Zune
            :'''''''''''''''(
            tikigawd
          • Your point?

            [i]Podcasting is huge.[/i]

            Great! Another case of ADD.

            [i]The iPhone rocks.[/i]

            But, if you plan on actually using it as a phone, it's the next best thing to a rock.

            [i]Touch gesturing is better than anything else on the market.[/i]

            It is good. Took about 3 minutes to enter it into muscle memory on my Touch.

            [i]Zunes are for dorks.[/i]

            Not since the first generation went away.

            [i]Nuff Said, you lose. [/i]

            That's it?!! A couple of blah blah's and you call it a game?
            Dr. John
  • RE: New Microsoft ad pits Zune Pass vs. Apple iTunes

    Ummmmm... Hasn't this failed already?
    frankz00
    • Lol, you don`t need a Zune to use Zune Pass dumbo...

      ..you can use an Ipod or any MP3 Player. MS is going after the Apple software (Itunes), not the Ipod. They finally realized that they can`t make good hardware (except for mice&keyboards&webcams, they are nr 2 on the Market, after Logitech), so they decided to attack Itunes.
      Soulstorm
      • Actually.....

        Everyone that I know loves their Zune. I would venture to say the marketing of the device is not good and everyone and their brother want an ipod because thats what everyone else has and this day in age you don't want to be an outcast because thats not cool. I will be looking to buy the ZuneHD as that device looks real promising.
        OhTheHumanity
        • Ah, how we change our delusions to fit the times

          When the iPod first came out, the delusion was that it was successful
          because it was new and unique and made you stand out from the crowd
          and being different was cool.

          Now, the delusion is that the iPod makes you part of the crowd and being
          part of the crowd is cool.

          The truth is the iPod is a great music player that lots of people like. It
          really is that simple
          frgough
          • Actually...

            You had it right in the first two paragraphs.

            When it first came out, only the yuppies and preppies could afford it, so it was the cache' item. The designer clothing accessory if the seasons.

            As the price came down, some, it came within reach of the middle class's purses, and became the cool toy - the in thing - the must have accessory for all seasons. It went from being for the elitist set, to being for everyone.
            Dr. John
      • RE: dumbo

        [i]..you can use an Ipod or any MP3 Player.[/i]

        No you cannot. Zune Pass specifically works on up to 3 Windows PCs and
        3 Zunes.
        JakAttak
        • I guess he meant that the 10 songs you keep

          can be used in any player? I don't know. If they are in MP3 format, sure
          they will
          markbn
        • So it doesn't Play for Sure on other MP3's? (NT)

          (NT)
          Ken_z
      • Dude...

        The ZunePass as it's meant to be used only works on Zunes.
        The 10 songs you keep every month will work on any MP3 player, provided you download them in MP3 format, but the subscription portion only works on a Zune. They'll work on 3 Zunes and 3 PCs. Another downside for Mac users is that the Zune software doesn't work on Macs, so they're automatically locked out (not that any Mac users would actually admit to wanting the Zune sw in their machines).
        tikigawd
      • Don't you need the Zune software to access the Zune store? [nt]

        [nt]
        olePigeon
    • MSFT dumbasses

      They don't grasp (or don't want to grasp) that the vast majority of iPod owners ALREADY HAD A BIG CD COLLECTION prior to buying the iPod. And they SHARE music with their friends! For FREE! They've tried this crap before, and it failed to impress, as the core premise is so stupid.
      vikingnyc@...
      • the core premise

        First off, I own a few thousand CDs, too, and have them ripped to my computer, where I can access them with any device, including my Zune and my son's iPod. Surprisingly enough, non-iPod users actually do have CDs.

        I also have the pass, as I like to download new music and listen to stuff I normally would never buy, and my kids can download all their crappy music, too, that I no longer have to buy.

        My daughter and wife have Zunes and share the single Pass, that's unlimited music sync'd with 3 devices plus the home network.

        The core premise of unlimited music for rent is shared between many services, just because Apple doesn't allow it doesn't mean it's stupid, you're just conditioned to respond that way because you have no choice. I thought it was stupid, too, until I tried it because I was tired of buying a Miley Cyrus CD for my daughter every 3 weeks at $12 a pop.

        I do rent the music, although I keep 10 tracks per month, I'd still use the pass if I didn't.

        People subscribe to services like Sirius and there's no value return at all, so I don't mind subscribing to the Zune Pass.
        coffeeshark