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RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference

By | July 17, 2010, 2:14am PDT

Summary: During Apple’s much-publicized press conference yesterday regarding the antenna in the iPhone 4, CEO Steve Jobs cited several other smartphones with similar problems - including the BlackBerry. RIM execs aren’t buying the story.

During Apple’s much-publicized press conference yesterday regarding the antenna in the iPhone 4, CEO Steve Jobs cited several other smartphones with similar problems - including the BlackBerry. RIM execs aren’t buying the story.

As published by CrackBerry,  RIM co-CEOs Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie published a statement together in response to Jobs’ comments - and they certainly don’t mince words. Take a look:

Apple’s attempt to draw RIM into Apple’s self-made debacle is unacceptable. Apple’s claims about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the public’s understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect attention from Apple’s difficult situation. RIM is a global leader in antenna design and has been successfully designing industry-leading wireless data products with efficient and effective radio performance for over 20 years. During that time, RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage. One thing is for certain, RIM’s customers don’t need to use a case for their BlackBerry smartphone to maintain proper connectivity. Apple clearly made certain design decisions and it should take responsibility for these decisions rather than trying to draw RIM and others into a situation that relates specifically to Apple.

Concise and direct. Between Adobe and now RIM, Apple is certainly building a solid base of enemies. This could be the beginning of a whole new feud in Silicon Valley.

While it is true that plenty of other cell phones suffer from dropped calls (either at the fault of the device or the wireless provider), they make a pretty good point about other smartphones not needing a case or a bumper to work properly.

So do you think Jobs was right to point out that not all cell phones are perfect and that many other models made by competitors have also had antenna problems in the past? Or was he out of line and the RIM CEOs are right to call him out on it?

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  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    Well, HTC also use external antennas. They've actually patented that (no, it's NOT an Apple invention - when was the last time Apple invented anything?).

    Anyway, HTC phones do not suffer from issues like that. Of course, you can shield the antenna of any phone with your hand. But the iPhone 4 is the ONLY phone with an antenna design that lets you bridge the antenna with other metal parts, which is a completely stupid design.

    And of course, while you can shield any phone's antenna, they're usually designed so that you can hold them naturally without losing reception. This, again, is very different from the iPhone 4's "death grip", which is the natural way of holding the phone. Again, totally stupid design.
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    drphysx
    17th Jul 2010
  • From "it just works" to "but, but, but they fail too"
    One interesting exchange during the press conference was a guy showing a Bold to Jobs, asking him to display how to drop the signals as he himself could not make it drop when gripping it in the manner Apple showed.

    Love every minute of Apple's imploding.
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    LBiege
    17th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @LBiege What about the more interesting FACT that this "antenna issue" is not affecting everyone. So the video of the death grips all over youtube are lies? Every other phone with attenuation issues don't have them? Grow up guys. This was a technology news site, now its simply akin to Fox news, propaganda mixed with bias with a tinge of fabricated vitriol, and its gets page hits from the uninformed = success.
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    mrgoodall
    17th Jul 2010
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  • Haha, that was AWESOME!!!
    @LBiege
    I do have to admit, all of this is playing out so perfectly!!!

    Love every minute of Apple's imploding.

    Yeah, this is so much fun to watch. I'm also really enjoying watching the Apple faithful like msalzberg and Davewrite freak out about how unfair this all is. Poor widdle Apple! How dare people do this to a multi-national, multi-billion $$$/year mega-corporation, especially when that mega-corporation makes bulk consumer goods for msalzberg, Davewrite, and millions of people exactly like them!!!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    NonZealot
    17th Jul 2010
  • Even better yet....
    @LBiege ....Apple fanboys imploding. Kind of like bugs running around in circles on a burning log.
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    Lester Young
    17th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @LBiege - but just like the iPhone 4, you have to be in a weak coverage area to make it happen, so this guy clearly had egg on his face after his dumb comment.
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    Pederson
    18th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @drphysx - No, HTC phones have the same problem, Apple proved it during the press conference. You can see the realtime data of HTC phones here... great stuff:

    apple.com/antenna/

    So it seems like you didn't do any research before you commented. ALL smartphones have the same problem, you just need to know where to hold it. The above guide will help you figure out your weak spot. Nokia has put "stickers" on some of their phones saying: "do not touch here", so this is a widespread issue for ALL smartphones in weak coverage areas.
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    Pederson
    18th Jul 2010
  • Not the same problem.
    @Pederson

    You don't understand the difference between absorbing a signal and rendering an antenna ineffective? I call that willful ignorance. The latter is a much more serious problem.
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    Lester Young
    18th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @Pederson
    lol apple actually felt the need to put up a page describing how "other phone do this too"

    I just find it funny....
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    brad1000
    19th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @Lester Young

    Return your physics degree.

    Sorry, but it is clearly you who does not understand the issues involved. First, absorbing the signal by forming a Faraday cage DOES make the antenna less effective, so there is no "difference" here.
    Second, the antenna is not rendered ineffective, just less so.
    Third, as stated by the OP, ALL phones suffer from signal attenuation, whatever the cause. Contact is NOT NECESSARY. The transformer effect caused by certain hand/antenna placements can cause signal loss in any phone, sometimes worse that the attenuation with the iPhone. In fact the external antenna avoids this same issue. So in the end, it is a set of compromises, either way.
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    DeusExMachina
    20th Jul 2010
  • Totally wrong
    @drphysx

    In addition to your lack of knowledge in physics and biology, your grasp of current event is sub par, to be kind.

    "This, again, is very different from the iPhone 4's "death grip", which is the natural way of holding the phone."

    It is NOT called the "death grip" because it kills the signal, it is called the death grip because you have to hold the phone so tightly that it's like you are holding on for dear life, and within a few seconds, the edges of the phone are cutting off the circulation in your hand.
    If this is your "natural way" of holding a phone, you have issue that can't be resolved here.
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    DeusExMachina
    23rd Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    I hope that RIM sues Apple for it. It's just unbelieveble job's excuses.. like child
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    scsi72@...
    17th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @scsi72@... Sues Apple for what? Steve has the upper hand don't forget, the HTC EVO and their other phones are failing in the market place, (90 minute battery life under 4G!) so HTC is beginning to get desperate.
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    Pederson
    18th Jul 2010
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    Lester Young
    18th Jul 2010
  • RE: RIM responds to Apple 'Antennagate' press conference
    @Pederson
    where are you getting your info??? better check your sources...
    Companies like Apple do not put up big expensive lawsuits against a company like HTC unless there is a real fear there. They don't come cheap, and Apple is obviously feeling the heat.
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    brad1000
    19th Jul 2010

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