Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

Summary: HP's Veer 4G may be small, but the success of the device will have big repercussions for the future of the smartphone.

It's no secret that smartphones are getting bigger. In fact, if you simply work from the existence of smartphones like the Droid X and Infuse 4G, you may get the sense that today's devices are slowly blurring the distinction between smartphones and tablets altogether. Which they are.

This never quite made sense to me. On one hand I appreciate manufacturers' efforts to bring the multimedia experience to phones, but its also hard to avoid the contradictory nature of the whole thing. Since when did it make sense to create portable devices that barely fit in your pocket? Or devices that barely last thorough the day on a single charge? Or devices that try so hard to be the perfect portable multimedia experience that they fail to accomplish the most basic things that a portable telephone should be able to do? (Hint: it's not watch HD videos.)

This is why HP's Veer 4G is so important. Roughly the size of a credit card, the Veer 4G harkens back to the time were a cellular phone's most desired attribute was a compact size. As a portable device, the Veer is a clear indication that device manufacturers haven't completely forgotten that not all phones need to be the size of a small moon.

Of course, some reviewers have already panned the Veer, and for one reason in particular. The device's 2.6-inch screen isn't the ideal size for for web-browsing, game-playing, and video-watching. But what if a consumer was never interested in those things in the first place? These type of phone users may not be the ones praising the latest Android smartphone in online forums, granted, but they do exist. There is a big market for former feature phone users who are looking to enter the smartphone space in less subdued manner than picking up something like the Thunderbolt.

And its not like the Veer's small size makes it less capable. Though its 800 MHz processor is sure to make more processor-heavy tasks less feasible, the phone is still quite clearly a smartphone. Likewise, it's also hard to ignore the Veer 4G's $99 price tag, which while accompanied by a two-year contract, will be a compelling bargain for many consumers.

None of this, of course, is to say that the Veer is the perfect phone. As evidenced by a variety of reviews so far, that is hardly the case. In fact, there may be some legitimacy to the claim that the phone is too small and that HP's desire to craft a tiny phone has extended beyond the realm of practicality.  Using a 2.6-inch screen significantly increases the chances of accidental input, and the same goes for using the Veer's keyboard.

But I'm willing to give HP the benefit of the doubt, not because I believe the Veer is flawless - it isn't - but because the success of the device may very well show that there are plenty of people who want all the features of smartphone without the ballooning sizes that go with them.

Topics: Hardware, Hewlett-Packard, Mobility, Smartphones, Telcos

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  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    I want a small phone. Unfortunately, the Veer actually isn't all that small. For instance, it's quite a bit larger than the current small-phone-smartphone benchmark: the iPhone 4.
    x I'm tc
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @jdakula Huh??
      WebOSguy
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @jdakula

      ok. how the heck did you come up with that? Let me guess...you opened link to this article, saw the picture of the Veer and made an uneducated guess.
      Rob.sharp
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @jdakula

      Congrats jdakula - it's not easy to pack so many ridiculous statements into a two line comment. Well done!

      a) The Veer is pretty damn small
      b) The Veer is certainly smaller than the iphone
      c) How the hell did the iphone 4 become the "small phone benchmark"?

      And finally:

      d) Can I get some of what you're smoking?
      gumfactor
  • A little bit "off" perhaps

    The nature of mobile connectivity is changing. Some users want mostly or exclusively a phone, while others want access to the web. A third group want multimedia on the go and a fourth wants to read e-books. Most users are probably some mix of the four in vastly different proportions, but would prefer to carry a single device.<br><br>The consequence it exactly what we are seeing today - a plethora of sizes and capabilities for all these different needs. Only a mindset stuck in the past (or fan boys) will feel that these new devices are "too big". If you want a small one, buy that. If you want a bigger one, buy that. If I only want to be able to make the occasional call, but mostly want to browse the web, read e-books and and watch videos, I sure as heck to not want a tiny device with a tiny screen.
    Economister
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @Economister: See how many 2.5" smartphones released in 2010 or 2011 you can find. The list isn't exactly long.
      bradavon
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    Sony Ericsson know this too. Check out last years Sony Ericsson X10 Mini, Mini Pro their replacements the Sony Ericsson Mini or Mini Pro.<br><br>Personally I find my Desire's 3.7" screen the perfect size between portability and screen size. I know people with phones with 4.3" screens and they're just too big. Media on the Desire's 3.7" is still very good but crucially it nicely fits in my pocket. 4.3" could struggle.

    These are phones first, media devices second. If you really want something to watch media 4.3" is still way too small anyway (do people really watch movies on their phones and MP3 Players?). Buy a tablet. <br><br>I hope HTC release this and don't stick to their recent trend of giving the best kit to only their 4.3" phones.<br><br>That said 2.5" is too small. 3.1" seems to be the best screen size at the bottom end for a smartphone.
    bradavon
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @bradavon
      I personally think those that are searching out a smartphone, most would want the 4.3" screen IF it had everything they needed and that is what phone manufacturers are trying to bring to the large screens and why it seems they concentrate more on them lately.
      I do not know what 4.3" you use to say they are too small for video because actually it is perfect for personal use. Also, there is not a phone with smaller than a 4.3" screen out there that I have found that people with big hands and there are alot of us can use easily (especially ones that use only a virtual keyboard)
      As far as fitting in one's pocket, again I am not sure who makes your pants but my Droid X fits fine in my pocket and that is with a case
      brad1000
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    I find the Veer very interesting. I personally like small phones. I have all the "other" electronic equipment I need for entertainment (iPad, Kindle).

    I have been using smartphones since 2003. All I really need is email (which I could do without) and an ewallet. To get the ewallet I have to have a smartphone and to have a smartphone I MUST have a data plan (sigh) whether I bring my own phone or not.

    Anyway, the size of the Veer is very appealing. When I get ready to give up my trusty windows 6.5 phone I definitely take a long look at it (especially to see if they support an ewallet).
    steeleblue_cactus
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    It looks just like my Palm Pre and I love my Palm Pre but as I get older that screen seems to get smaller and smaller. Isn't this just the Pre reintroduced as the Veer with 4G?
    mrissman1@...
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    If you look back at the launch, it seems, very much, that HP is going the way of a tablet for browsing and multi-media and a phone for using as a phone. Don't forget, if you do want both, the Pre 3 is coming soon. I often hear, un-geeky, friends say they just want a phone... but then talk about the extra benefits of SMS, MMS, contact integration... but what they don't want/need is web browsing and multi-media.

    The flaw in the plan, here, is that HP haven't put in the bump technology they are putting in the Pre 3 which will enable you to move data between the phone and the touchpad. If they had done that, it'd really make sense.
    siobhanellis@...
    • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

      @siobhanellis@... The "flaw in the plan" is thankfully nonexistent. HP put touch-to-share technology in the Veer from the start, it will just receive an Over-The-Air update when the TouchPad launches that will activate the feature. No point in having it activated until then anyway.<br><br>Also @jdakula, can you read???? This phone is barely bigger than the iPhone's screen! While way too small for most, including me, I can see it making its way into the hands of alot of people. The target audience is those like my mom, who has said she wants a smartphone, just not a huge brick. Plus those that buy the TouchPad can have their cake and eat it too. Those people will have a tiny phone when they don't need the media and a well-integrated tablet to use when they want a 10" screen.
      JayhawkOne
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    A Phone! A Phone! My Kingdom for a Phone!<br><br>Not all of us need/want a "smart phone".<br>We want a PHONE, dammit!<br>One which works, you can hear the other party, they can hear you, you don't need a micro-stylus to punch in numbers or use "the wheel" and you don't have to keep charging it every day, nor be forced into the "bundled" data plans. (I thought that bundling was illegal, but that's another story).<br>OK; I'll add a camera for emergency use, and an extension to the contact list to allow for addresses and the like.<br><br>A Phone! A Phone! My Kingdom for a Phone!<br><br>P.S. Even Consumer Reports is concentrating its reports on the "smart features" rather than the Phone part. Sad Sad Sad...
    radu.m
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    I've got a Pre which has a 3.1" screen an seems to me to balance usability and pocketabilty pretty well. On the other hand my teenage daughters X10 Mini Pro just seem stoo small for my 50 year old eyes - but seem to work for her.

    iPhone & HTCs etc. general seem to big too me - I think there is a market for a more compact smartphone.
    John Forbes
  • Isn't that the Kin?

    Sure looks a lot like the MS Kin.
    knoxbury
  • RE: Tiny or not, HP's Veer 4G is everything some want in a phone

    I am 58. I cannot read the screen on the Veer. Does not work for someone with my eyesight.
    hayneiii@...
  • Might be handy for active outdoor types

    I think for us outdoorsy-active type people this is interesting. When I am going on a hike or hitting the river I miss my flip phone but when I think about losing some capability that I now (with android) not sure I want to give it up. I like this combo will have to check it out.
    kurtfm