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Hooray! Oracle acquisition of Sun makes perfect sense

By | April 20, 2009, 6:07am PDT

Summary: Most interesting will be the way that Oracle matches the Sun assets against HP’s burgeoning partnership with Oracle. Will HP perhaps buy Sun’s hardware and IC IP outright after the Oracle acquisition is final? I’d bet on it.

The reported acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle today makes a ton more sense than IBM’s earlier failed bid. This new compact, if it succeeds, will bring as good an end to an independent Sun as the pioneering (yet long flagging) IT vendor could have hoped for at this sorry stage in its history.

But there are much larger implications in Oracle’s latest super-grab than Sun’s demise and assimilation. Among them is the fact that IBM now — for the first time, really — has a true, full and global counter weight to its role and influence. Oracle plus Sun aligned with Hewlett-Packard (which I fully expect) meets and begins to beat IBM at all the important full-service IT games.

This is truly healthy for IT and the global IT marketplace. IBM’s earlier purported bid for Sun always smelled bad to me. I was, it turned out, mostly a red herring. Perhaps Oracle needed the IBM roller coaster ride to focus its intentions. Nonetheless, the outcome is optimal. It bodes well for cloud computing too, as Oracle just about overnight becomes a cloud force to reckon with. I always thought Larry Ellison was just biding time on this one. The recession has hastened the timetable.

Other than IBM’s unassailed hegemony, the other losers in this are Microsoft (actually possibly creeping to irrelevancy faster than anyone could have imagined three years ago), SAP, and Cisco Systems. Amazon may also get getting more competition soon on the platform as a service front. Using Sun’s cloud investments, implementations and plans, Ellison can also quickly forge together his own counter-weight to Salesforce.com. No need to buy it now (for a while).

Open source in general, too, may take a hit, as I don’t expect Unbreakable Linux to remain Oracle’s point on the operating system arrow. Solaris will be the prime Oracle OS for performance, meaning Oracle’s channel pipeline to Red Hat will shrink. And MySQL will be a means and not an ends for Oracle, which would, of course, prefer an Oracle 11g cloud instead.

Suffice to say that whatever momentum Sun had behind open source everywhere will be muted to open source some times as a ramp to other Oracle stuff, or to grow the community and keep developers happy. If nothing else, Oracle has been pragmatic on open source, not religious.

Like IBM, Oracle will have little interest or need for open source middleware or service oriented architecture (SOA) components. Further, given Oracle’s early and deep interest in Eclipse and OSGi, the Java tools will stay free and open (with a lot of Oracle wizards embedded across the database and other middleware). The tussle for influence between Oracle and IBM in Eclipse and the Java Community Process (JCP) will be great fun to watch in coming years. Again, this is healthy. (Good thing Sun opened this up, eh?)

No other company has shown an ability to merge and integrate at the massive scale and complexity that Oracle has. It’s acquisition spree that began five years ago is unprecedented in its scope and level of success. We have no reason to suspect that the way it handles Sun will be any different.

[Update: Not everyone is as sanguine on the deal as I am. TIBCO Software's CEO Vivek Ranadive, in an interview on BriefingsDirect with Rich Seeley, states his concerns.]

Winners on the deal include Java itself in the fullest and broadest sense. Oracle and IBM are the premier Java vendors, and the might of IBM (and its customers and developers) in the market will force Oracle to keep Java open and vibrant, while Oracle’s penchant for control and commercial success will keep Java safe and singular. I expect the old BEA WebLogic implementations now at Oracle to gather some minor bundles from Sun’s software portfolio, but Sun’s enterprise software stack (for all intents and purposes) is history. I can’t see Glass Fish or Net Beans going anywhere but bye-bye. Same with the Sun SOA stuff.

Most interesting will be the way that Oracle matches the Sun assets against HP’s burgeoning partnership with Oracle. Will HP perhaps buy Sun’s hardware, storage and integrated cicuits intellectual property outright after the Oracle acquisition is final? I’d bet on it. [Disclosure: HP is a sponsor of BriefingsDIrect podcasts.]

The Exadata announcement last fall is a good example of what to expect. Business intelligence is the killer enterprise application of the day (era), and Oracle and HP aim to win. Coupling Oracle BI and business applications is something special … better potentially than what IBM and SAP can do. Should we expect from this Oracle-Sun merger some more love or more between IBM and SAP. Oh, ya!

We should expect to see a major go-to-market push by HP and Oracle, with all kinds of appliances and solutions portfolios. Both Oracle’s and HP’s love of virtualization allows all kinds of neat packaging. Expect some of the industry’s premier on-premises cloud solutions ASAP.

Indeed, we now have a land grab race for the modernized data center/private cloud between Oracle/Sun/HP and IBM. What’s more, HP with all the old DEC stuff, plus Sun’s Unix, may keep Unix alive and well while keeping IBM at bay with its everything mainframe lust.

On the blue sky front, consider if Apple and Google get closer to the Oracle-Sun-HP trifecta? Wow. Cloud city.

Larry Ellison correctly predicted a few years ago that only a few IT companies would remain. Maybe we should just remove the “IT” and keep it at only a few companies will remain — and Oracle will be one of them.

Talk about pure irony … It was when Oracle turned its back on Sun four years ago with the unbreakable Linux and Java process business (Eclipse over NetBeans, OSGi support, etc.) that Sun’s nosedive deepened. In a sense, you could say that Oracle pushed Sun off a cliff in slow motion, only to catch the pieces at fire sale prices.

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Dana Gardner is president and principal analyst at Interarbor Solutions, an enterprise IT analysis, market research, and consulting firm.

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RE: Hooray! Oracle acquisition of Sun makes perfect sense
lovedong 13th Sep
Thank you so much! rolex replicas
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Linux_4u! 20th Apr 2009
"Open source, too, may take a hit, as I don?t expect Unbreakable Linux to remain Oracle?s point on the OS arrow. Solaris will be the prime OS, meaning Oracle?s channel pipeline to Red Hat will shrink."

As one WHO has a TON of SUN Certs on the wall, I can say, baloney.

As LONG as SUN keeps insisting on using Sys 5 tools (you know the shell, tar, cpio, grep ..et.all) it will remain inferior to FOSS, and Linux will continue to gain ground.

I have said all along, what SUN needs to do is make the SOLARIS kernel a drop in replacement for the LINUX kernel (Not the there is anything wrong with the Linux kernel) for migratory considerations. NOW that would be the next "Killer" tech ....
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What point is there in that?
Archkittens 20th Apr 2009
A drop in replacement would for all intents and purposes kill solaris's differentiation from linux. I dont see the value for SUN or Oracle to do that.

And those tools were retained for a good reason. The newer and shinier versions that you are probably used to using arent particularly better.
Thank you so much! rolex replicas
Can you elaborate on why you don't think SOA and middleware is very important to Oracle or IBM. Certainly they both have extensive offerings in these areas and I don't see any indication from Oracle that it's not now, and won't continue to be, an important part of their offerings.
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Open source only
gardner.dana@... 20th Apr 2009
I said OPEN SOURCE middleware and SOA, all else is pedal to the metal.
And they may need to go OSS on these others, but only as they have to.
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Great stuff, Dana
Eleutherios 20th Apr 2009
I loved the original post. I wish you had touched more on the dev aspect
of things (JDev, Eclipse, Netbeans). The dev environment has a lot of
implications on an end to end solution. Today, using JDev, you can design
your database, generate it, generate Java app stubs for it, and then
design the web side of it (using Oracle's ADF or App Dev. Framework, aka
JSF on steroid). Also, the OSGi thing will be interesting to track.
Good stuff!
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Maybe we should just remove the IT and keep it at only a few companies will remain and Oracle will be one of them. k
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More likely Oracle plans to use MySQL as a low-end weapon against Microsoft's SQL Server. Oracle has been a pretty good, though not particularly enthusiastic, Open Source ipad bag blog sutudeg education news and pclos hwdb citizen. l
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@gardner.dana@... I loved the original post. I wish you had touched more on the dev aspect
of things (JDev, Eclipse, Netbeans). The dev environment has a lot of
implications on an end to end solution. Today, using JDev, you can design
your database, generate it, generate pembe maske energy balance oyna oyunu moliva orjin krem tutune son nanomatik complex 41 new fx15Java app stubs for it, and then
design the web side of it (using Oracle's ADF or App Dev. Framework, aka
JSF on steroid). Also, the OSGi thing will be interesting to track.
bye mysql!, bye java!.
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Bye perhaps MySQL
timiteh 20th Apr 2009
but i doubt that Oracle will stop developing Java anytime soon. To the contrary i think that they will increase the integration of Java with products such their database engine.
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Wrong....
linux for me 20th Apr 2009
MySql and Java are both open and if Oracle decides to try and kill them, they will just be forked to a new project and continue on.
So is Mysql dead? Does the licence allow someone else to pick up the ball?
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Not dead ...
gardner.dana@... 20th Apr 2009
... But Oracle will use this to gut MSFT's SQL business on low end, and
use it to ramp to Oracle at middle and top. And MySQL is excellent way
to bring cloud apps to Oracle's expected cloud offerings.

So PaaS ... MySQL data ... more apps ... scale ... then advanced Oracle
offerings ... more apps ... more cloud use and dependence. Won't happen
overnight but makes sense.
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How do you know?
Maarek Stele 20th Apr 2009
They might just close MySQL and pave the way for OpenOracle instead. If Oracle plays the We can do what we want like Microsoft does, than it'll be the end of many Open Source Software.
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MySQL will stay open
craigg4c 20th Apr 2009
They can't close MySQL:

a) it's GPL
b) practically the entire original MySQL developer team, including its founder, have left Sun last summer and fall, and there is little doubt that they would take up any development and support slack that appeared in the market.


Besides, Oracle bought InnoDB, the main MySQL engine, in 2005, and made no move to discourage MySQL from using it. More likely Oracle plans to use MySQL as a low-end weapon against Microsoft's SQL Server. Oracle has been a pretty good, though not particularly enthusiastic, Open Source citizen.
It's called Oracle. On the low end, it would make sense for Oracle just to lower the cost of their flagship offering with some features removed (like they've done in an extreme sense with Oracle XP) rather than pay billions of dollars for an open-source product that is actually quite a technical step down from both Oracle and MS SQL.
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Sun certifications
curmudgeon1 20th Apr 2009
Anybody want to buy my SCJP certification? It's gotta be worth SOMETHING!
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Microsoft: what is their next step?
lalogos 20th Apr 2009
Okay, since you mentioned 'MS,' that'll be my springboard. IBM failed to get Sun, as MS failed with Yahoo. Don't laugh: what about a cooperative business model between IBM and MS? I don't know, but I'm wondering what are the complimentary software/service assets between these two? IBM covers opens source, MS proprietary. IBM has the data center, MS thd desktop. They both are targeting the cloud. Call me crazy, but in this chess game we are witnessing, there are not a lot of other moves left ...
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Closer Partnership
Eleutherios 20th Apr 2009
A closer partnership btwn IBM and MS makes sense. I'd agree that these
two are going to get much closer in the near future, it's in both interest.
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IBM Microsoft
randomnoise 20th Apr 2009
Look where that got us last time... wink
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Really? I'm mean seriously?
NWFDiver 20th Apr 2009
Java is almost considered legacy now and most of the innovation has come from open source 3rd parties.

I agree Oracle/Sun is a much better match than IBM/Sun, but it is definitely an interesting take to claim, "Microsoft (actually possibly creeping to irrelevancy faster than anyone could have imagined three years ago)".

Cloud computing is the next iteration of technology trends, but it really hasn't bore itself out as a feasible solution yet for most.

but it is definitely an interesting take to claim, "Microsoft (actually possibly creeping to irrelevancy faster than anyone could have imagined three years ago)".


I would be very rich by now.
Seriously it would take quite a long time and quite some efforts from competitors before Microsoft become irrelevant.
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I think that this acquisition will breathe new life into Java that Sun and the Open Source community have failed to do.

We might actually see some innovation happen to Java from Oracle after this acquisition. Oracle has always used Java as a tool in its high-end offerings, even as far as to support java-based objects within the database itself.

Oracles installer and maintenance programs are all written in Java, and Java is used in a large number of Oracle's application development suites, including its application server products.
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Java, Legacy?
Eleutherios 20th Apr 2009
How do you define legacy? Today, thousands of companies develop new
products using Java. How's that legacy? Oracle has bet its future on Java
(have you heard of forthcoming Fusion apps? all written in Java!). IBM is
also betting its dev future on Java.
Care to elaborate on Java being legacy? What will replace it, C#, .NET? Or
maybe Python happy
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Java Is Legacy
NWFDiver Updated - 21st Apr 2009
I define it as lacking recent innovation and so does Bruce Eckel.

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=252441

Here is another reference. It's demand is falling slightly.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
Hee hee hee... I called this when the IBM deal tanked...
It would be a blow to Intel's pride (certainly not their wallet) if HP dropped the wretched Itanium for T2+ chips in its top-line servers.

Agreed that Glassfish and NetBeans are toast. There were too many JEE5 servers around anyway; anything worth keeping from Glassfish will be kept alive in Geronimo and/or Spring. Pity about NetBeans, though; it's somewhat friendlier to set up and use than Eclipse, which is frequently too clever for its own good.

Solaris' virtualization "zones" are much more mature and reliable than the comparable Linux code (VServer etc.) -- some possibility for cross-fertilization there. And it will be particularly interesting to see whether ZFS finally gets relicensed and shows up in Oracle's Linux (and hence in Linux everywhere)...

But then, as you imply, Ellison is just not that kinda guy...
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Just because Oracle
wjarvis@... 20th Apr 2009
bought Sun, doesn't mean Sun as it is will survive. Oracle knows nothing about the hardware side of the business. There may be enough people who don't like Oracle's high prices and stubborness to eliminate Sun from their data centers.

Oracle may like the T2 chip, but decide it's really not into hardware engineering, and will commoditize itself like HP did. There may be less here to celebrate than people think.

IBM must have seen something to walk away and not come back.
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Sun and Oracle
The Management consultant Updated - 20th Apr 2009
Think its too early to tease out whats going to happen..The initial release sets the tone of Sun fitting into Oracles busines model.However the full intergration of the value chain here is a big undertaking for oracle.The development of Solaris in enterprise is welcomed however this is a amber light only.Sun has poor senior management,whilst Oracles senior management is more dinamic.Oracle has a poor short term culture unlike Sun who engenders innovation.
Will Sun get what it needs from this? It is unclear..whether a step back to the past enterprise hardware roots (which has long gone) is good for either Sun or Oracle without reengering the wheel is unclear.Ellison needs more innovation at oracle, sun could give it to them?..What will Opensource be an asset or hinderance to Oracle?Will Sun be ingested or just restructured to turn a profit?..What is also of interest is whether Oracle will remain an enterprise player or simply use opensource and Opensolaris to get closer to the B2C market customers....all these question will be ansawered in time..
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Java is a piece of ****
Phil Spector 20th Apr 2009
If Oracle had half a brain, they'd announce they're not going to spend one nickel developing it, and if someone wants to buy it, or waste their own time trying to stabalize the horrific pile of pig vomit, they're more than welcome to.
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According to significant vocal minorities.

Also, just because you don't like Java all that much doesn't mean a whole lot to those who are ok with it. And I don't even like coffee...
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Main target seems to be Open Source!
parisfromathens 21st Apr 2009
Following ORACLE's evolution, it appears that Ellison wants to keep all rivals aside to the future called Open Source. And by taking control over it they can direct MySQL aside.
And not only?
For my opinion see my post

Vendors Survival: The Sun is Red - Oracle to buy SUN - First Take

http://avirosenthal.blogspot.com/2009/04/vendors-survival-sun-is-red-oracle-to.html
With so much unrealistic expertise, professional palm reading and
friendly sarcastic rejoice over the loss of others, I just wonder why,
despite all the "HARVARD" Einsteins, we still managed to mess up the
world economy?!

Hey, didn't we talk the same about Google, etc. and didn't we learn?

Obviously not. These Mega Mergers, all just about beating our
competition and gain POWER and CONTROL over the market are NOT
IN FAVOR of YOU, my friends... get the point.

Gardner... - no offense, but your writing is just writing, NO SENSE in
your predictions but only mass feed.

There are some out there they still do something for the better, other
- just for bumping up their wallets. Oracle... certainly will prove to
belong to the latter.
So many similar products in one stable will only create chaos and confusion. Oracle is not a software company it?s a bazaar.
If Microsoft can get their act together this can be their second life.

So many similar products in one stable will only create chaos and confusion. Oracle is not a software company it?s a bazaar.
If Microsoft can get their act together this can be their second life.

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Sun's Oracle Merger - A marriage made in heaven?
Archie Hendryx Updated - 25th Jan 2010
With only the ?you may now kiss the bride? custom to follow, the ORACLE/SUN marriage (or dare I say SUN/ORACLE) is now finally complete. After months of legal wrangling which has caused nothing but embarrassment and dwindled SUN?s stature within the market sphere, reports also came out that half of Sun's 27,000 staff will be made redundant. Thus initial indications are clear that Oracle, known for its past agnosticism to open source has an eye for the merger being based on maximizing profit. In the meantime Sun?s competitors are probably smiling wryly as the delay of the merger played into their immediate interests but what threats and challenges does this partnership now pose to the once great open source vendor which did so much for developing the tech and e-commerce industry.

One thing which Oracle will most probably do is address and remediate the main cause for Sun?s tragic decline prior to the days when talk of ?takeovers? and ?falling stock shares? became the norm. In my humble opinion that was linked to Sun failing to consolidate on its strengths by audaciously venturing into unknown avenues only to find that it couldn?t compete with the existent competition. By spreading itself too thinly the ambitious nature of the company soon led it into labyrinths it couldn?t escape from. One such adventure was its acquisition of StorageTek.
StorageTek, known for their solid modular storage arrays and robust tape libraries had a decent reputation of their own prior to Sun?s takeover. Data Center managers, IT Directors and their like knew they had solid products when they purchased the brand StorageTek but in a miscalculated maneuver, Sun decided to rename all their Storage products with the Sun Microsystems brand. Suddenly Sun?s Sales team had to sell what for the average IT Director was seemingly a new and unproven product based on an unneeded name change. Additionally when these storage products took on the same name as Sun?s other storage company, StorEdge further confusion came into the mix. Couple that with an emerging market for disk based backups, purchasing a company that?s forte was tape libraries didn?t particularly make the best business sense.

So what future does Oracle have in plan for Sun?s current Storage portfolio? One certainty is that the OEM partnership with HDS? enterprise arrays will continue, but as for their own range of modular arrays the future doesn?t look so promising. In a market with products such as EMC?s Clariion, HDS? AMS range and ironically Larry Ellison?s Pillar Data systems, the truth of the matter is that Sun?s current modular range simply can?t compete. As cost effective as they are, their performance and scalability were always limited in relation to their direct competitors, something that was already acknowledged by Sun prior to the takeover when they disbanded the SE6920 due to its direct competition with the HDS equivalent USPVM.
Furthermore if Oracle?s push with the Exadata V2 is a sign of things to come, one can hardly see them developing an integrated backup model based on an increasingly frowned upon tape infrastructure made by StorageTek. Don?t get me wrong, I?ve worked with the SL8500 tape library and often wonder in amazement as the robotic arms gesticulate as if they were in the climactic scene from a Terminator movie. But that?s the problem ?. it?s so 1990s. Add to the equation the NAS based SUN 7000 Unified Storage System which has received rave reviews and the question resonates as to whether Oracle will forsake its modular storage and tape libraries to further focus on just this trend.

Another venture in which Sun entered yet in hindsight did little to further their reputation was server virtualization. While VMware was taking off at the time with ESX 3 and the magic of Vmotion, DRS, HA, VCB etc. Sun had the dilemma that the server virtualization revolution taking place was compatible on x86 architecture and not Sun?s mainstay SPAARC. Not satisfied with reselling VMware for its x86 platforms, Sun decided to introduce their own version of virtualization which was compatible with their SPAARCs, namely Global zones. With huge monster servers such as the M series, the concept was to have numerous servers (zones) utilizing the resources of the one physical box i.e. the global zone. But in an industry that was moving further towards blade servers and consolidation via virtualization, the concept of having huge physical servers housing several virtual servers that couldn?t be Vmotioned and could only offer high availability by having a cluster of even more huge servers, seemed bizarre to say the least. No one disputes the great performance and power of Sun?s SPAARC servers but to offer them as a virtualization platform is completely unnecessary. Moreover the x86 platforms which haven?t radically changed over the years apart from their purple casing now being a slicker silver one, have also proved to be less than reliable when ESX is installed upon them. Indeed my only experience of the legendary PSOD was on the one occasion I had witnessed ESX installed on Sun x86 hardware. As RedHat and others make moves into the virtualization sphere with solutions superior to the Sun model, the questions begs as to what role virtualization will hold for Oracle. Larry Ellison has already made it evident that he wants to give full support for the SPAARC, but I?m not so sure, especially when Oracle decided to house Intel Xeons and not Sun SPARCs as the core of their Exadata V2.

As for the excellent host based virtualization of VirtualBox, the opensource nature of the product simply doesn?t fit in with Oracle?s approach of utilizing its dominant position to leverage big bucks from its customer base. With Oracle also already having Xen-based virtualization technology, I doubt virtualization will remain in the development radar of the newly occupied Sun offices. Come to think of it, will any of the opensource products remain?

Another aspect which worries me even further is the future of Solaris and ZFS. Despite Larry Ellison?s quotes of focusing on Java and Solaris, Solaris administrators still feel a touch uneasy, something which RedHat have taken advantage of by offering discount Solaris to RedHat conversion courses. As for ZFS, I?ve made no qualms as to my admiration of what is the most system admin friendly file system and logical volume manager on the market. But the recent legal wrangling over copyright with NetApp which is sure to escalate and Apple?s subsequent rejection for their OS leaves the revolutionary filesystem in a rather precarious position. Is Oracle going to put up a fight or will it be a case of no profit means no gain?

Despite the great wedding celebrations and fanfare which will inevitably occur during the honeymoon period, I will sadly shed a tear as a fair maiden that believed and stood for the virtues of platform independent technologies is to be whisked off into the sunset by another burly corporate man. One can only hope that the aforementioned kiss is one of love and understanding which will rejuvenate Sun and not a fatal kiss of death.

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