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Christopher Dawson

Can I be a Windows, Apple, Linux, and Google guy all at once?

By | April 10, 2010, 9:30pm PDT

Summary: I’m having an identity crisis. Regular readers of both this blog and my Education blog will know that I border on being a Google fanboi and Linux tends to work its way into my computer passions as well. I work almost constantly in the cloud and Linux obviously provides a cheap, stable platform [...]

I’m having an identity crisis. Regular readers of both this blog and my Education blog will know that I border on being a Google fanboi and Linux tends to work its way into my computer passions as well. I work almost constantly in the cloud and Linux obviously provides a cheap, stable platform for whatever I want to do online. My primary desktop and exclusive web and file server platforms? Ubuntu. Google Apps makes my life easy in my day job and manages virtually all of my communication needs in and out of work. However…

Apple is sending me a MacBook Pro and an iPod Touch to evaluate as an instructional platform and I’m actually excited about it.  I’ve been tired of my MacBook since about 6 months after I got it, but more than a few Mac fans have told me that’s simply because I’m not fully exploiting the software and platform.  Sure, I’m a cloud sort of guy, but how much am I missing in terms of creating rich interactive content for the students and teachers I support as well as for readers? I may find (as I’ve always expected) that the platform can’t justify the cost (and, in fact, that the platform itself may be a problem given its closed nature), but maybe not.  Will the Mac inspire me to create new kinds of content when I’ve largely stuck with written media for so long?  I may be reading-oriented, but a lot of people with whom I work and interact aren’t.  We’ll see.

Then, of course, there’s the whole regional-content-control, we-don’t-like-Google, Adobe-stinks craziness coming out of Cupertino that makes Apple harder to like. But people sure are doing cool stuff with their iPads, aren’t they? And third-party developers have come up with all sorts of intermediate Apps that make it feel like Google and Apple can play nicely together. And what’s this I hear about almost reasonably-priced Core i7-powered MacBook Pros (of course they couldn’t make one of these the loaner they’re sending me…)?

And then there’s Microsoft. Microsoft was easy to hate a few years back when they were the antitrust bad guys. Then they released Vista and it was even easier to say that they’d sealed their fate. Apple and Linux were going to dominate the desktop! The 3000 pound gorilla was dead! And suddenly, the betas of Windows 7 were stable, fast, attractive, and everything that Vista should have been. Office Web Apps and other Windows Live properties started to appear and mature and were compelling bridges to the cloud. And if the cloud wasn’t your game, Office 2010 rolled into beta and was even better than Office 2007. Seriously, have you used the beta? It rocks out loud. I may spend a lot of time in the cloud, but I also often have to produce publication-ready documents. Besides, have you ever tried to do a mail merge in Google Docs? Of course you haven’t, because you can’t.

It’s gotten to the point where I actually look forward to hearing from Microsoft PR since they usually have something particularly cool to tell me about. In fact, Office 2010 just might be one of the more compelling reasons to buy a Windows PC. Then there’s Sharepoint 2010, the cloud-oriented meat of which has already appeared in Live@Edu and Office Live Workspace.

So what’s a guy to do? It makes it pretty tough to be a fanboi when the competition in so many aspects of the personal and enterprise computing spaces is so fierce and a variety of companies are cranking out really great software and applications. Not that I feel the need to be a fanboi in the first place, but it sure is a great time to be a geek and a pundit.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.
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Do I need it?
djwave28 26th Mar 2011
Windows still covers the wide spectrum to utilize the computer. Yes, technical rabbits that can be pulled out of the hat will give possibilities of utilizing Windows programs, but why if Windows is already doing it.
I am the technical person that knows how to keep up with the windows machine, so there goes the incentive of thinking about Linux or the ever expensive Apple.
It comes down to that I would like to run the Unix based OS, but do I need it?
It's easy Christopher! Use the right tool for
the job! You're actually quite lucky to have
access to more than one platform...how many
of your students have Windows, Linux and Mac
at home, and I don't mean running in some
half-baked virtual machine, I'm talking the
full enchilada!?
Windows has its place, Mac has its and Linux
has a spot as well...might as well throw in
FreeBSD while we're at it!
Why limit yourself and your students?
Let each choose which suits their needs best.
Heck, it could even be DOS...I doubt it very
much, but I still get emails in regards to
plain old DOS!
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exactly!
dave@... 13th Apr 2010
As well as computers, I also do wood-working. I have a dozen hammers,
six electric sanders, a dozen powered and unpowered saws. I want the
right tool for the right job.

I wouldn't necessarily write a user manual or edit a video in the cloud,
but its spectacular for some things. I can blog, see my notes, get email,
etc, from any device. Sync just happens, never any need for hooking
phone to PC. A superbe tool, when used correctly.

I have seen many Apple products used as toys, not so many as tools. I
guess some do find them actually useful. Apple, however, might benefit
from more tools on their devices, and fewer "tools" trying to combat
Adobe, Google, and freedoms of their customers.
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Solution
Theli 11th Apr 2010
Run Microsoft Office Web Apps on Google Chrome on Ubuntu
on an Apple Macbook. Problem solved.
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Fatal flaw in the "solution"
SpectreWriter 12th Apr 2010
Google Chrome? ROTFLMAO! Yeah, RIGHT!
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Doesn't seem like a flaw to me
chrisportela 12th Apr 2010
What do you mean? It's the only browser to not be
hacked in the Pwn2Own competition for 2 years and
it's super fast plus it has extensions now
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the idiotique preconceptions never end
bannedfromzdnetagain Updated - 11th Apr 2010
"we-don?t-like-Google"
unless google is the main service provider on the ipod touch, iphone
and ipad, let alone the search engine to boot on all apple hardware.
apple obviously doesn't like google!

and "Adobe-stinks"?
flash stinks, that's all they're saying. but pundits fight tooth and nails
over adobe's proprietary crap instead of supporting apple's push for
an open standard based web (html5). weren't you all for "open"?

and i guess you can live perfectly fine in a microsoft/linux/apple
world. just stop the idiotique fud about apple already. closed? how are
they anymore closed than microsoft, amazon, sony etc.?
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Good lord.
Cayble 11th Apr 2010
If you don't know how Apple is more closed then MS then you shouldn't even be posting here. Get educated. Its simple and obvious.
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Umm...
jf79 12th Apr 2010
It's you that needs to grow some brain cells. Apple is 100 times more
open than MS...
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Not really
bmonsterman 12th Apr 2010
You can only run their OS on their hardware. The only reason you can't run all three OS's on other hardware...is that Apple won't allow it. How open is that?
For some it is successful for others a closed model is more successful.
And nobody really cares about a closed business model being good or
bad until it becomes popular, then the competition starts whining
about how closed it is.

Likewise, Companies will extoll the virtues of the open model until
they get beat by a closed model and then make their own closed
model to compete. (i.e. Zune)

As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if it's open or closed as long as it
produces a superior product. If it doesn't I go elsewhere (open or
closed.)
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Sure
bmonster 12th Apr 2010
My statement wasn't aimed on whether open or closed is good thing for the company, or the consumer. I was just saying that Apple's products are arguably as closed as Microsoft's.
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As closed is fine. More closed is wrong. Cayble fails. (NT)
The Danger is Microsoft 12th Apr 2010
NT
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Or are you some feeble brained Apple gullible follower?
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I'll be glad to
lelandhendrix@... 12th Apr 2010
Being based on an openly viewable unix code, OS X thereby less closed than
Windows, who wouldn't release their code for review whatsoever until their feet
were held to the fire--at which point they opened up and provided a couple
hundred line (a tiny portion)
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Ok, so
bmonsterman 13th Apr 2010
They use Free-BSD as the basis for their OS. That doesn't mean they are releasing thier code for review. OSX still has plenty of code that's closed, it's not open source. And the iPhone OS is completely closed. In fact, I don't think Apple has released one single line of open source code.
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Ignorance is no excuse...
smdunn 13th Apr 2010
There's always something new to learn.

quote

Apple incorporates open code from GNU, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and
FreeBSD into Mac OS X.

unquote

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/818DF0CE-
0BC8-4AE7-9CE9-8033889B1B35.html

In regards to Apple and open source code:

http://www.opensource.apple.com/

or

http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-1063/

or

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/

or

quote

As the first major computer company to make Open Source
development a key part of its ongoing software strategy, Apple
remains committed to the Open Source development model. Major
components of Mac OS X, including the UNIX core, are made available
under Apple?s Open Source license, allowing developers and students
to view source code, learn from it and submit suggestions and
modifications. In addition, Apple uses software created by the Open
Source community, such as the HTML rendering engine for Safari, and
returns its enhancements to the community.

unquote

http://www.apple.com/opensource/

Clearly, there are quite a few lines of open source code used by Apple,
adapted for Mac OS X, and released by Apple.

Some examples:

http://www.macresearch.org/grand-central-now-open-all

http://webkit.org/

http://open.iphonedev.com/

http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/iphone-313/

There's more...

This article by Frank Fox at Low End Mac is worth reading in full:

quote

We can see that Microsoft has put a toe in the open source water.
Apple, one the other hand, is swimming around and enjoying the full
benefits of open source.

unquote

http://lowendmac.com/ed/fox/09ff/apple-open-source.html

It seems to me Microsoft code is much more closed than Apple's.
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Fold improvement is meaningless, even if true, when the amount is TINY.
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You fail!
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Look who's talking... {nt}
WinTard 12th Apr 2010
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Idiotique? Perhaps idiotic is the word you intended?
Please, for a moment, judge the people (Company) by what they do and not what they say.
What is Apples corporate policy regarding the use of these services, Flash, Google by application builders?
Open access? or Restrictive/penalty oriented?
Cooperative?

So, not being a Mac user or even a close follower, I can't say whether the price of being restricted from the use of these really pays benefits, but from an outsiders perspective it appears to be CONTROL FOR the sake of PROTECTING Apple Computer Inc's PROFITS.

Judge by actions and not words and one begins to see the truth of motivations. Words are intended to influence thought, actions show the meaning.
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and by the way
bannedfromzdnetagain 11th Apr 2010
why not install windows 7 and linux all natively on your new
shiny macbook pro? then you can use all 3 platforms with
one hardware. no virtual machines, all native.
the Linux guys wish you would not use Windows, the Mac guys will pick over any little criticism, and, well, the Google guys will be indifferent since Google's stuff work on all three platforms.
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Not true. The Google guys are the worst
AllKnowingAllSeeing 11th Apr 2010
The Pro Google crowd viewed Google as the end of Apple, MS, you name it, everybody going to want them.

Then it turns out that Google has it own fair share of blunders, junk, incomplete offerings and just plain "arrogance" that the press and their own users started to view them subjectivelly, to the point they walk away from them.

Look now at how happy people are with Windows 7 and the latest release of OS X, The completeness of full featured software packages for both. and the online Google crowd's refusal to except the fact that a great many people don't want a life in the Google cloud, the FUD on the other platforms start popping up all over the place.
The Windows guys might hate them, knowing that they will be able to move to other platforms very easily. And, YES, of course, it will be very easy for them to switch to a much more secure and efficient platform in the future, as they have no use for a bloated OS and applications.

But, in any case the Google users can go back and forth between Windows, Mac, and Linux with no problems.
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See, there you go.
AllKnowingAllSeeing 11th Apr 2010
You refuse to see the point of the post. less and less to I see or hear of people embracing Google as the end all be all of computing.

As Google is darwn into court over privacy blunders ("Buzz", anyone) or trying to profit off of works from publishers, press is up front and honest, and people are starting to notice online alternatives.

Too may people I know are asking me about Windows 7, some even are looking at Macs.

No Linux, and none really want to live online, they want these new OS that they hear too many good things about. Their online activities amount to little more then Facebook, email, and surfing. Everything else is local.

Windows guys are indifferent because one, it's not a religion as it seems to be with alot of the Google crowd (the "how dare they use Windows 7 to access gMail!! Oh the pain, the pain!"), Sharepoint gets used more and more, Office still the defacto standard, iPad success, ect.

real threats to those who want to live in a Google controlled world, and for some reason a real sticking point in their worlds.

Why should you care how people access their information? Why is it such a horror that they choose MS or Apple products to do it?
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ability to move across platforms.

And, Windows 7 works just fine to access Google. It is just that it is insecure and bloated, and causes other unnecessary problems.

Google is working 24x7 to balance features users want, but give users the privacy they expect, and pick the trade-offs they want. Not always easy, but, they are attacking the problem head-on.
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My Goodness! You have proceeded to
GuidingLight 11th Apr 2010
have just placed yourself into the "anti-Google" camp, in which you have dispelled any notion that Microsoft and Apple are evil, and must therefor die.

By pointing out that it is the end user who wishes to use the product for reasons that suit their needs, as opposed to a "Google Life is good enough for you" you have just shown that you are an enemy of Google, and must now be ridiculed for you beliefs.

I agree, does it matter how or what one uses to access their data and information with, as long as they are content with the choices they have made?
user. Again, you can move across platforms quite nicely!!

Why does that trouble you guys so????
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You have not answered the question, DonnieBoy
GuidingLight Updated - 11th Apr 2010
It does not bother us at all. Many of us use that we we like and will afford us the tools needed to "get the job done".

In many cases it is not something that Google's products provides us.

Christopher states that he likes the products that all three offer.

The question that needs to be answered by you is why is that so bothersome to you?

Why is it the meer mention that Apple or Microsoft creates a product that someone admires or uses upset you so to the point of repetative posts?

It is indicated throughout your resonses that it is acceptable to use another product as opposed to something from Microsoft, yet totally unacceptable to use a product other then a Google offering, downright insulting to those that prefer Microsoft Office over Open Office or Google Apps.

Whay is that?

(Though something tells me you will not answer that question, instead asking the same thing back but with Microsoft andf Google reversed.)
and Office suites are on the way out, but, are NOT incompatible with using Google. Maybe YOU sit around formating documents for 8.5x11 all day long, the rest of us have work to do.
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I LOL'd at this...
Galactica Actual 11th Apr 2010
"Come on guys, Google is NOT incompatible with
Windows or Mac. Bloated OSes
and Office suites are on the way out."

Since when? Prove to me that Google Docs can
compete with Microsoft Office, and Chrome OS
can compete with all of the features of
Microsoft Windows/MacOS/iOS and we'll talk.

One man's bloat, is another's feature.
rest of us have work to get done, and documents
to share, and have no need for printing. The
pluses of web applications are growing as we
speak. It may take the integration of a Java
run-time to finally get rid of locally installed
applications running on bloated OSes once and
for all.
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@DB: Have you ever ever
Rama.NET Updated - 11th Apr 2010
used Microsoft Office products really? I doubt. Even if you had used them, I guess you used just to create your bloated resume, that to you might have done in an incompetant way. Microsoft Office is not just for formatting 8x11.5 documents, that is just one simple feature of it. Learn the stuff before you mouth about it.
--Ram--
word processor and spread sheet are??? And, the
complicated printing features to make it all fit
on 8.5x11 paper is over half the complexity in
MS Office. It is a real rats nest.
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Largely agreed.
Cayble 11th Apr 2010
The cloud lovers in general have a very poor misconception of what most of the world wants.

Cloud apps are alright when you just cannot afford a real application of your own that runs even when you don't have an internet connection but for most people they understand and appreciate that the computer was a machine designed to operate outside of the internet and the internet is simply a resource that the computer can exploit for the users purposes. Until we hit a different world cloud apps will be recognized as a place to work with applications you cant afford to own, and you can live with the risk of a brief internet shut down shutting down your apps.
narrowing, as the advantages of web applications
pile up. James Gosling is now out of Oracle and
may resurface at Google to work on a Java run-
time for web applications. But, in the near
future, it will get harder to tell the
difference between locally installed and web-
applications, that also happen to work offline.
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what
Rama.NET 11th Apr 2010
do you know what you are talking, why do we need a seperate Java runtime for web applications? Just show how can I run my AutoCAD, PhotoShop, Animation Studio etc. on Chrome OS if cloud solves everything. Learn to use right tool for right job. You cant use a shovel to nail the walls. Period.
--Ram--
You are trying to use a sledge hammer to put in
carpet tacks.
they use both Google Docs and Office. Office for the complicated stuff and Docs for the easy to do and need sharing.
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I completely agree
Rama.NET 11th Apr 2010
Cloud can come to hand only when you have a need for large scale operation per say having few hundred thousands of email users spread across the world to be addressed by a company might be to expensive, it would be advised to have it outsourced for cloud operations. And examples go on, but for doing some smaller activities and personal activities, I would suggest having local apps. Otherwise the would never ever had the personal computer per say. In this way we should thank Apple, who actually showed that there is world beyond IBM Mainframes.
--Ram--
Especially as web applications get more powerful
every year.
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Huh?
Cylon Centurion Updated - 12th Apr 2010
What are you talking about? There are plenty of users in corporation that use more than a browser. In house software? Please stop speaking for all of the users out there Donnie, you don't know all of their needs.
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As I can tell you, the ones I have worked at over the years are way beyond using a basic web browser for their daily needs.

They run full blown applications, because that is what they need.
and updating software on hundreds of computers
is a huge mess, and employees often need to be
able to access it on the road or wherever they
are.

Sure, there may be a few places where they are
still stupid enough to let programmers write
client server visual basic applications. So
what???
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But they can
Cylon Centurion 12th Apr 2010
It's called a VPN tied to corporate owned laptops.

People need more than just a browser Donnie. Not everything is going to be used in there. There will always be demand for local apps for the foreseeable future. They provide more functionality and integration that corporations need.
of desktops and laptops, with differnent versions of
Windows, Mac, and Linux. Corporations are moving
very fast to web applications for all internal
applications. Visual Basic client server is dead.

Yes, most of those internal applications run on in-
house servers, so, VPN is needed for people on the
road.
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@DB and Nightmare. Well that's wrong unless
ItsTheBottomLine Updated - 12th Apr 2010
you don't know what your doing. Our help desk sends out updates to over 1000+ machines world wide and they do this with TWO PEOPLE... it works pretty well.
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Hey DB, does that corp you work at
John Zern 12th Apr 2010
run everything in the browser?

And How many people do they have upgrading the apps they do use? 46, 47 maybe?
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Do I need it?
djwave28 26th Mar 2011
Windows still covers the wide spectrum to utilize the computer. Yes, technical rabbits that can be pulled out of the hat will give possibilities of utilizing Windows programs, but why if Windows is already doing it.
I am the technical person that knows how to keep up with the windows machine, so there goes the incentive of thinking about Linux or the ever expensive Apple.
It comes down to that I would like to run the Unix based OS, but do I need it?

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