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Christopher Dawson

Google buys old Port Authority, NYC fiber hub for $1.9 billion

By | December 22, 2010, 10:47pm PST

Summary: Even for Google, $1.9 billion for an NYC landmark 50% bigger than the Empire State Building is hardly loose pocket change.

That’s right, I said billion. Google has actually been the largest tenant at the the old Port Authority building on 111 Eighth Avenue on the city’s West Side for some time now (they began leasing space in 2006), but closed a deal Wednesday to purchase the 3 million square foot building. While the $1.9 billion purchase price is hardly a steal, Google is most likely more interested in the fiber sitting under the building as it is in the real estate.

As Wired described it,

111 Eighth Avenue is no ordinary humongous building. As it happens, the structure sits almost directly on top of where the Hudson Street/Ninth Avenue fiber highway makes a dog-leg to the right before heading north-east toward the Upper West Side.

In New York City, fiber-optic cables travel in large bundles underneath the asphalt.

Thus, 111 Eighth Avenue has become known as one of the most important so-called telecom carrier hotels on the Eastern seaboard, if not the entire United States.

Handy for Google to own that, don’t you think?

For its part, Google took a bit different approach in describing the property acquisition in a blog post Wednesday:

We believe that this is a great real estate investment in a thriving neighborhood and a fantastic city.

Like the city, our New York office is a melting pot of cultures and ideas—it’s home to Googlers from more than 35 countries who speak more than 40 languages. They live in the five boroughs and spread across the tri-state area. We’re excited to continue to build our presence there.

If making one of the largest real estate deals in New York history counts as “building their presence”, then they certainly have reason to be excited. While Google intends to allow the existing management company to continue handling the daily operations and dealings with the other current lessees, one has to wonder what the next few years will hold as those leases expire.

With such prime access to New York’s extraordinary data pipes and a cash purchase through which the city of New York made $46 million in transaction taxes alone, there is definitely more to this deal than the need for office space. 111 Eighth Avenue, after all, has half again the square footage of the Empire State Building and Google now owns it.

Merry Christmas, Google.

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Chris Dawson is a freelance writer and consultant with years of experience in educational technology and web-based systems. In 2011, he became the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network SaaS provider.

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Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson is the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., by day and a freelance writer and educational technology consultant by night. Well, most of his colleagues at WizIQ are based in India, so really he's working with them whenever he can stay awake. He has worked for his local school district as a teacher and technology director, for the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, and for Biogen, Inc. (now Biogen-IDEC, Inc.). He has also consulted with STATNet and Cytyc Corporation and retains close ties with X2 Development Corporation (now owned by Follett Software, the supplier of the student information system he administered for several years). Follett is paying him a monthly honorarium to act as a presenter for their "SIS Voices for Student Achievement" community (he produces occasional blog posts and hosts a monthly webinar on the use of student information systems to inform data-driven instruction and school-wide change. He regularly purchases and/or recommends Dell hardware. This is because Dell makes good hardware and has truly committed itself to education in innovative ways, particularly with their "Connected Classroom" initiative. It isn't because he has dealings with the company through his role at WizIQ (which he does) or because they have provided him with long-term loans of a variety of equipment for in-depth testing (which they have). Intel (reference designer for the Classmate PCs he has implemented in his local schools) has provided him with long-term loans of Classmate PCs for testing, as have Dell and Lenovo with their educational offerings. He may report on any of these companies as his experiences with them have direct bearing on educational technology; positive reports are not necessarily an endorsement and he receives no direct financial compensation from these companies or any others. Intel paid all expenses for his attendance at the 2009 Intel Classmate PC Ecosystem Summit which he attended as the sole representative of the technology press. He was invited to attend in 2010 but his wife would have killed him if he spent 3 days in Vegas geeking out and left her home alone with a new baby. Acer provided him with a 50% discount on an Aspire One netbook in early 2009 after he tested it for 30 days through their educational seed program. He liked the netbook at the time but it has since broken and sits unused in his office. Canonical sent him Ubuntu lanyards, t-shirts, and mousepads for his kids. He stole one of the lanyards and proudly hangs his keys from it and occasionally features his 8-year old wearing an oversized Ubuntu t-shirt on his Facebook profile. Gunnar Optiks sent him a pair of computer glasses to evaluate for a holiday gift guide. He is wearing them now as he types this because they never asked for them back and they rock out loud. Seriously - they work brilliantly and make it much easier to spend 20 hours a day staring at an LCD. If they ever asked for them back, he would fork over the $99 and buy a pair. Microsoft gave him 2 free copies of Office 2010 professional, a desktop clock, and a useless book on Office 2010 when he attended the launch of Office/Sharepoint 2010. He occasionally uses the SharePoint lanyard they gave him instead of the Ubuntu lanyard for his keys, but feels dirty afterwards. Adobe provided him with a pre-release version of the CS5 Master Collection for evaluation and ultimately provided a full, licensed copy for ongoing testing of educational applications of this admittedly expensive software. Like the Gunnars, if the license expires or they come out with CS6, he'd actually go out and buy it himself. Which is saying something, because he's actually pretty cheap. Any other companies wishing to send him cool things to evaluate, wear, or otherwise adorn his kids are more than welcome to; he promises to disclose it here if he keeps any of the stuff. Finally, because WizIQ is a virtual classroom and learning network provider, Chris, as VP of Marketing, frequently interacts with, seeks out deals with, and directly or indirectly competes with a whole lot of LMS, SIS, and other Education 2.0 companies. In general, he'll limit his reporting about these companies to news that does not impact his relationship with them or with WizIQ. If he reports on them, it's because what they are doing is newsworthy or worth the attention of his readers and not because he's trying to broker some deal, damage competition, or otherwise advance his position in his day job. LMS and SIS companies, along with other online learning communities, are a pretty important part of Ed Tech. If he stops reporting on them completely, there won't be a whole lot left. He'll be sure to call out any overt conflicts of interest if they are unavoidable. Finally, Follett Software Company pays him a little tiny honorarium every month to present on their SIS Voices webinars and to write the occasional blog or discussion thread for them. Since Follett recently bought X2 (maker of an awesome web-based SIS that Chris just happened to have used, served in advisory groups for, and frequently reported on), this is probably also worth disclosing.

Biography

Christopher Dawson

Christopher Dawson grew up in Seattle, back in the days of pre-antitrust Microsoft, coffeeshops owned by something other than Starbucks, and really loud, inarticulate music. He escaped to the right coast in the early 90's and received a degree in Information Systems from Johns Hopkins University. While there, he began a career in health and educational information systems, with a focus on clinical trials and related statistical programming and database modeling. This focus led him to several positions at Johns Hopkins, a couple-year stint in private industry, teaching high school math and technology, and 2 years as the technology director for his local school district. Most recently, he started his own consulting business and is now the Vice President of Marketing for WizIQ, Inc., a virtual classroom and learning network provider. He lives with his wife, five kids (yes, 5), 2 dogs, and a hateful cat in a small town in north-central Massachusetts. Although he is no longer teaching, his roles with WizIQ and ZDNet allow him to continue helping students and teachers add value to education with technology rather than merely adding to the bottom line.
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RE: Google buys old Port Authority, NYC fiber hub for $1.9 billion
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About that fiber...
gtvr 23rd Dec 2010
Does owning the building over it give them any more access or rights to control it? Or is it just coincidence?
@gtvr

I look at this purchase in the same context of a gas station operator looking to buy (or lease) a gas station - Location.

A site right off the (busy internet) highway is more preferable to one located a mile away, isn't it?

Strategically, it makes a lot of sense when you can plug directly into the internet backbone.
@fatman65535 Yeah cheaper to tap straight in than to lay more fibers to your data center.
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No doubt in my mind now.
terry flores 23rd Dec 2010
Google management has its eye on vertical integration in cyberspace, owning datacenter, backbone, and ISP last mile assets in key geographies. They'll have excellent coverage of the NY/NJ local access market as well as the best backbone connections on the East Coast. Look for similar moves in Virginia, Atlanta, Dallas, Denver, and other high-volume high-tech hubs.

But there are some big obstacles: the incumbent telcos and cablecos practically have local regulators on the payroll. Google will have to dedicate some of that huge office space to lawyers, lobbyists, and bagmen if they really want to crack the NY/NJ local market.
@terry flores Google already have those people on their payroll. It's not an issue for them.
Does this mean they now own that fiber under the building? I wonder how hard would if be for Google to install a "toll booth" on all that fiber? How does net neutrality plays out with this? No company would spend that kind of cash unless there's a buck to be made.
@bobmatch@... If google wants to have some sort of data processing center for the US, they can tap straight in without laying more cables and in less time.
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"He who controls the spice..."
John Zern 23rd Dec 2010
@bobmatch@...
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Spice/Splice
PreachJohn 23rd Dec 2010
@John Zern--Or is it, '"He who controls the splice..."?
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Get serious
AllKnowingAllSeeing 23rd Dec 2010
Thus, 111 Eighth Avenue has become known as one of the most important so-called telecom carrier hotels on the Eastern seaboard, if not the entire United States. Handy for Google to own that, don?t you think?

What does Google actually own? They're in no way allowed to tamper or connect to any of that fibre without permission.

If making one of the largest real estate deals in New York history counts as ?building their presence?, then they certainly have reason to be excited

Look, we know you're a cheerleader for Google, to the point you even make excuses for them anymore, but this really doesn't even come close to being "one of the largest real estate deals in New York history".

IMHO, I think Google believes that they are so loved they'll be able to control the information thru those pipes for no other reason then they own the room they sit in, and no one will bat a eye.

Like you, I don't think Google reads the news outside their own web site.
@AllKnowingAllSeeing Google can tap in once it gets permission, surely.
I agree with AllKnowingAllSeeing -

Its highly suspect that Google now owns a site with a major fiber hub underneath it. Tell me a better way to control all the information flowing through those pipes? "Permission" is a joke when you own the property.

Google is the most unethical company out there who operates under the guise of "wonderful Google" when put to the privacy test . . .
@twwol all co's are unethical. Otherwise don't start one.
@m3kw9 The only reason Google is popular is they are the first real challenger to Microsoft and have been able to put Microsoft on the back foot. Microsoft had this same level of popularity when they did the exact same thing to IBM in the 90's. Googles time in the sun is now but they will will be usurped on day...maybe 10-15 years from now when the next company puts them in them on the back foot once they have pissed off enough people.
@twwol Google has a comprehensive privacy page that you should read. They are no worse than any telco.. Example: US government ordered AT&T to monitor their users and they complied without any second thoughts...
Its not just the line underneath the building. Its all the telco tenants (an equipment) inside. From my recollection, this is the number one hub of all local data fiber in NY. Plus it contains POPs of all the major network providers. In other words this is huge.
I suspect that Google wants access to the dark fiber. Having access to a hub in NYC gives them a direct pipe to and from their data centers. Telco's would love to lease out dark fiber. And owning a building does not give you the rights to the fiber running under it. Telcos normally have very long leases on the space they use.
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Al-Queerda take note.
PercySludge 23rd Dec 2010
Huh. Looks like that Times-Square bomber was off by a couple of blocks.
I wonder if Al-Queerda will take note of all the valuable info you have just given above.
Hey I take the bus to NYC sometimes. Ya think Google could maybe reduce Greyhound's rent in the building, and thus reduce the price of my bus ticket?
Or will they improve the service of my Greyhound wifi (already free)....
Google bought the data center and telecom facilities in the building or at least the real estate that the owners want to use to house their data centers. That's all they needed. Just like telco consolidations, the customers come along for the ride.
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Google buys old Port Authority
martyc_z 24th Dec 2010
Can I catch a bus there?
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