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Google Maps: Five reasons that Apple, others shouldn't even try to compete

By | May 31, 2011, 4:30am PDT

Summary: The rumor mill once again hints that Apple could be gearing up to roll out a Maps product - a silly move, considering the reasons that beating Google would be more work than it’s worth.

At the TechCrunch Disrupt conference in New York last week, Google VP of Location and Local Services Marissa Mayer fielded some questions about the widespread popularity of its mapping app, specifically what might happen if Apple rolled out its own map app and booted Google Maps in favor of its own product on iPhones and iPod Touches.

The rumor has been floating around for a couple of years now as Apple has made some small acquisitions of mapping technology companies in the past. But it was the recent revelation that iPhones have been building a secret database of the device’s whereabouts that has sparked the speculation mill again.

Mayer smartly dodged the “what if” question. After all, why would she want to respond to something that hasn’t happened yet? Still, the buzz got me thinking about what a bad move it would be for Apple to try to go up against Google in Maps. From the Apple standpoint, it goes against the model - which is, for the most part, to develop software that helps sell its hardware. A Maps offering doesn’t help Apple directly sell more iPhones, iPads or Macs.

But the better reason is because Google has raised the bar to a level where any other mapping product that hits the market will have to invest in building something that’s more than just a map and more like a map platform. It would be a rough road - and a silly one to venture on for Apple - seeing how Google has raised the bar so high.

Here are five ways that Google rises above the others and should cause newcomers to the mapping game to think twice:

1. Street View: It’s gotten Google into some hot water over privacy (and WiFi tapping) issues but you have to admit that the ability to virtually be transplanted into a location and see what it looks like via Street View is pretty cool technology.

2. Google Earth: The integration of a technology that allows users to “fly” from one location to another and the addition of 3D technology, to provide some real-life depth to buildings and other structures.

3. Business listings: About a year or so ago, I attended a free Google workshop that was targeted at small business owners interested in learning more about how to promote their businesses online. At the time, the company was pushing detailed business listings, a feature that allowed a business owner to advertise things such as hours of operation, credit cards accepted and more. Now, those listings - managed and maintained by business owners - are a key piece of the results within Google Maps, both the browser-based and mobile app versions.

4. Mobile search: When you’re in a strange town, the better search bar isn’t the one in your phone’s browser but rather the one on Google maps. From within in, you can find the closest gas station, ATM or pizza joint. Sure, you can get directions but any mapping app will do that but Google’s mobile map also lets you add layers to your mobile experience, such as terrain conditions, real-time traffic or Wikipedia entries about locations.

5. Android’s growth: Even if Apple were to pull the plug on Google Maps for the iPhone in favor of its own mapping product, there’s still a strong install base with Android phones, which have been quite the thorn in Apple’s mobile side. Sure, losing all of those iPhones would be tough on Google but it wouldn’t be the end of the world.

Google already has plenty of competition when it comes to mapping - and, at this point in the game, Microsoft’s Bing is the best contender, offering many of the same mapping tools and features. But for the overall experience, Google remains at the top of the list.

If Apple wants to go head-to-head with Google on location-based services, that makes more sense. But Apple certainly doesn’t need to kill itself trying to build a mapping product that will rival Google’s. It would just be a wasted effort.

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RE: Google Maps: Five reasons that Apple, others shouldn't even try to compete
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I'd suggest that Bing still has a fighting chance.
@mrmckeb@... It does, they have some pretty sweet map features. However, Google has one thing going for it in Maps that it has in no other service: They are social leaders. Bing has a long way to catch up in this (even if they get navigation going).
@jivester: ... are unknown in USA.

While content-wise obviously Google is leader, technically it is not that difficult to match what Google does if serious company like Apple does an effort in number of years.

Obviously, Apple is not going to push off Google Maps unless it has it's system ready enough to be competitive.

But at least points #3 and #4 from Samuel's list are already in Apple's territory. The company builds big database of all kinds of local advertisement possibilities, so they will be ready to integrated into Apple's own map service once it will be available.

But, most probably, it will be not now yet.
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As well as MapQuest.
Bruizer 31st May
@mrmckeb@...

I am finding Google Maps old and full of errors. The maps at both Bing and MaoQuest are a step above.
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Swarm Intelligence
jivester 31st May
@Bruizer I hope you are contributing to swarm intelligence! http://www.google.com/mapmaker
@Bruizer Interesting, I never get lost with my Android GPS.
@Bruizer
Interesting.....
One of my biggest issues the reason I stopped using Mapquest was the significant level of inaccuracy.
happy
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Re: Swarm Intelligence
seaniepie 31st May
@jivester Doesn't seem to be working properly in the UK. :/
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Uh... Other way around.
snoop0x7b 31st May
@Bruizer You and the 5 other people who still use mapquest...
@Bruizer As a Ag, Au, and PGE prospector, I find Google Earth satellite photos INCREDIBLY useful. Especially when I can overlay gov't claims, assessment, mineral deposit inventories and more onto the Google aerial photos. Did I mention that my Garmin GPS MapSource software allows me to place my daily personal downloaded routes, waypoints, and plot trails onto Google? Dragging the cursor over positions of my plots even tells me the time of day I was there. Could Apple so this for me for the last 9 years? (a big fat) "NO".
@Bruizer

Mapquest is still around? Bing maps are usually my second choice to Google maps.
@Bruizer "The maps at both Bing and MaoQuest are a step above."

Is MaoQuest what they're forced to use in China?
@Bruizer

I've noticed problems on Google Maps, as well, but looking at Bing Maps for the first time for my area, I see glaring problems. Towns are in the wrong place. Satelite imagery is too low resolution for metro areas. Bing Maps has years of catching up, and meanwhile WP7 is going to suffer as a result. I really like what I see with WP7, but inadequate maps is a deal breaker.
@Bruizer

OK, I just checked Map Quest as well. While MapQuest is better than Bing as far as mapping streets, resolution of satellite maps is completely inadequate, my town doesn't even show up (the streets do, just not the town name) at any resolution of street maps or satellite, and to top it all off, Map Quest is unacceptable slow. Map Quest is years behind. Worse than Bing, which at least had my home town within 5 km of where it is supposed to be.

Google Maps has a lot of warts, but it is effectively the only game in town.
@Bruizer

Bing is useless in my country, while google maps is updated so you people have to take into consideration how good are other map solutions outside the Unites States.

Remember there is a bigger world outside U.S.A. borders.
@Marcos El Malo
What area are you seeing road labels off? When I use bing it's usually right on, but I do live in the US.

BTW: AFAIK bing uses navteq data for it's roads and that is usually pretty good, but maybe not everywhere.
@Marcos El Malo. My wife uses Map Quest becasue that is the 1st thing she used. However, is has errors, and always appears to be way outdated. I know for a long time Bing had way more up-to-date satellite images and Google, but I think that has recently changed. And direction - at least in the mid-west are pretty good by both, Bing and Google.
@mrmckeb@... Yep and Apple will likely turn to Bing.
@Peter Perry
And Bing will be Ovi--er, Nokia Services. Which is already better in a lot of ways (and not so great in others) compared to Google.

The 3D Ovi Maps only work in limited ways, but OMG are they breathtaking. If that goes "everywhere" Google will be the clear #2 in some areas.
@Peter Perry (just concurring with jdakula): if 3D Ovi Maps can get better labels, search, more zoom (up to a street view), it will kick ass. I spend literally hours and hours (supplemented with Bing and Google Earth) looking at the stunning depiction of cities. 3D Ovi Maps have to be seen to be believed!
@mrmckeb@...
like WP7

bing, bong!
@mrmckeb@...
If Apple or anyone else wants a leg-up on mapping solutions, the no-brainer would be to buy Tom-Tom apart from selling some decent SatNav produects, also own TeleAtlas Mapping which poweres much on-line and other SatNav products. Tom Tom and are weighted down with debt from funding this deal a couple of years back, though this is chump change to Apple. Microsoft have long owned Autoroute and Multi-maop, so they don;t need them.
What good are all these points you mentioned when the information you get on Google maps/earth is 2, 3, and sometimes even more years old?
@BR999
It depends on you location.
Btw - what makes you think the others are any more up to date?
For satellite views, it is improving rapidly (having your own helps happy. )
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snoop0x7b 31st May
@BR999 The info in philly is updated fairly regularly on Google maps...
@BR999 ...for me, geology and the rocks have'nt changed much here since the last glacier, 10,000 years ago...
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I may be incorrect but what I think is that the iPhone Google Maps sucks, especially compared to Android. iOS has no integrated Latitude (?), no tiling, and no driving navigation. From what I understand, the web app for iOS is better than the native app. With those limitations, and an easy Google Places API (?) Apple could deliver something more competitive. They have to, Google Maps is the main reason I convince friends to go Android. As a traveler, it has revolutionized my experiences and I am fully invested in the Google Maps on Android experience.
@jivester Blame Apple, they were the ones that claimed responsibility for the iOS front end to Google Maps (jobs himself admitted this in an interview some years ago and made the assertion that Google couldn't make such a good front end).
@jivester

Actually, the iPhone Google Maps mess is part of what is fueling the debate. As you've said, the iPhone version of Google Maps is crippled. The contention is that Apple is deliberately presenting a crippled Google app in order that their native app will seem more polished.
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why bother competing? I'm all for letting Windows be the #1 on the desktop and server, iPod being #1 on MP3 players, and Google Maps the defacto standard on maps.

Apple shouldn't try to compete.
@Will Pharaoh

Sarcasm? Yes or No?

I think competition is very good as it makes it so companies strive to improve their product or offer something unique or features to make it worth using. Little or no competition just leads to a product not improving or improving as fast as it should be to remain competitive. Look how it was when Intel was practically the only player in the desktop processor market. The prices were high and the development was slow. As soon as AMD became a direct competitive player with the Athlon Processor development seemed to increase exponentially. Sure some of this had to do with advancements in technology but I tend to think that without that push from AMD Intel would have been content to work at a slower less innovative pace and continue to charge extremely high prices.

So if Apple develops their own Map service or chooses to go another route than Google then that is fine by me. My only issue is the lack of choice meaning Google shoulr remain a choice to the users if they prefer to use it or even add another option like Bing or something.
@bobiroc
Will is sarcastic. Sam Diaz is proven fanboi of Google. He always try to imply Google should be the only company that should provide IT to everyone and rest should be done forever. Especially he can't tolerate Microsoft and Apple. Thats why you see less informative content from him. His colleague, Chris Dawson, on the other hand writes good articles even though he is biased towards Google. He will not rub his bias on others blatantly unlike Sam.
@bobiroc
I agree with you, as long as they don?t use that horrible Because Its No Good map crap. From sites that use the different Maps the ones using Because Its No Good maps are the worst as far as locations go.
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Will Pharaoh 31st May
@bobiroc
Competition is good. If everyone else up and conceded Maps to Google, they'd have no reason to update anything.

Though I wonder if back in 2001 Sam said the same thing about Apple getting into MP3 players? wink
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Will Pharaoh Updated - 31st May
@bobiroc

Competition is what makes products better. If every other company decided to let Google do maps and move onto something else, why would Google even bother to update anything?
@Will Pharaoh

I thought so. It is just like my Intel Example I posted above. The same applies to almost any industry I would suppose.
@Will Pharaoh ....self-centered megalomaniacs, like that certain religion that feels it has the right to take over the whole world.
Google Earth and Maps have added features; lots of them. They regularly add features, bells and whistles ahead of streamlining/improving/fixing the most popular or obvious uses. That is a substantial weakness at the moment; allowed by a lack of real competition. The 2nd Google gamble is that they have no incentive to improve their product on platforms they don't own.

Apple has a history of exploiting weaknesses in the makers of technology (mp3 players, phones, personal computers) and carving out a pretty good chunk of the market. Given that Google's Mapping products will continue to treat the Apple platform as a 2nd class citizen with respect to its product...and given that the Google development priorities don't match up with Apple's approach, I think a foray by Apple into the mapping realm would be a good decision.
@adammckinty
Could be but Apple is several years away from doing this.
They don't have the infrastructure needed at this time.
Besides, how would this help them sell devices?
shocked
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@adammckinty The iPhone maps app is made by Apple. Blame Apple for how crappy that is. Jobs said, "Google couldn't make that polished an application" and decided that Apple should take responsibility for it. They have no incentive to improve a product that they don't develop in the first place...
Others should compete just for the competition. It will put increased pressure on Google. Given Google's history of apps and services, none of them tend to stick around too long so there is a very good chance one of the other competitors could sweep right in underneath Google.
@LoverockDavidson
Nice thought - where is the RIO?

plain
@rhonin
More screen time on the web page of the competitor. End users will see the company's logo on said page.
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snoop0x7b 31st May
@LoverockDavidson You're saying the widely successful, current market leader for 7 years now is going to go away because Google apps don't last long? Yeah right... Go back to fantasy land. There have been short lived products, but they were short lived because they weren't useful... Like wave.
@snoop0x7b Wave was useful, it was just to incomplete when Google launched it, and to complicated. But it was useful, both to the Google, most of the technology developed for Wave is slowly migrating over to other products, and for the few users who use the service, like I did to do a group report for uni.
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Both!
seaniepie 31st May
I'm betting that Apple do bring out their own AND keep Google Maps as an added app (maybe a separate download). Why? Because GMaps is only available when you have a signal. No good on the Subway, in a tunnel, or a non-connectivity zone. Plus, Apple have had a 'dependancy' on Google for their mapping data. This for any business model is not great. I know Google isn't going to die anytime soon but if it did it would screw Apple (and other data users) right over. So having their own proprietary solution is by far the best idea - not to compete but just to be useful.

Pi
@seaniepie
Google will not die, but they are proven to pull plugs from the APIs that they have published out right. Look at recent Translation API. I think having alternate solutions in the business plan is good always and also having competition keeps the leader straight, which the author totally missed.
Google just sent me a T-shirt and a certificate for contributing to Google maps through mapmaker. Perhaps Apple can start by offering tuxedos and a iPad. happy

BTW, the massive crowd-sourcing model of Google Maps is unbeatable, which has been extended to US recently.
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trip planning
gdstark13 31st May
This post is timely. I spent time this weekend trying to layout my trip through the southwest US and was very frustrated with google maps. I attempted to create my route as a "my map" but found it very difficult to rearrange an existing route. And it was easy to mess up the route because there's only one level of undo. I'm not saying the competition is any better, just that there's room for improvement in the mapping department.

gary
Google's maps are years out of date in my area. 2003 doesn't count as "current" Google!

Bing's OTOH, are fresh. Been using them for a few months now.
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