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Google, Microsoft, AOL sued over Street View patent

By | July 6, 2011, 12:35am PDT

Google, Microsoft, and AOL have found themselves the target of a lawsuit over a Louisiana company’s patent on street-level views in online maps.

Details are fairly sparse, according to the original Reuters report. But Transcenic, which filed the complaint, says that Google Street View, Microsoft Streetside, and AOL’s MapQuest all infringe on its patent for “Spatial referenced photographic system with navigation arrangement,” which a quick search shows was filed for in 2000 and granted in 2006.

In plain English, it appears Transcenic holds the patent on taking panoramic images and navigating them, Google Street View-style. The company is seeking both damages and a court order for Google, et al, to stop infringing on their patent.

That said, more searches turn up very little background on Transcenic. The court documents list its business as follows: “Transcenic has developed and continues to develop spatial referenced image capture, organization and display technology, including the patented technology.” But as near as I can figure, the company doesn’t have so much as a website, which strikes me as odd for a business that’s had a patent on file for so long.

That strangeness aside, it appears the patent is real, and so is the lawsuit. None of the companies involved have issued a statement on the case at press time.

And while Google, at least, has its hands full with other legal battles - notably, the hubbub over the now-infamous Google Street View car Wi-Fi snooping incident and the increasingly messy fight against a consortium of rivals over Android IP - Transcenic’s lawsuit is just one more headache for the search giant to deal with, and one more settlement to pay out if it loses.

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RE: Google, Microsoft, AOL sued over Street View patent
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Transcenic
cpt_slog@... 6th Jul
Patent troll?
@cpt_slog@... And so a country lead by lawyers is steadily marching towards bankruptcy.
@tatiGmail
+1
@tatiGmail
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...although I would put it more bluntly
"...and so a country led by lawyers towards bankruptcy is steadily marching..."
@cosuna "towards bankruptcy is steadily marching" is tortured word order.
@tatiGmail
It is already bankrupt by trillions of dollars! It was bankrupted by an economic system that values short term gains over national interest and only needed share markets for that. Then you got politicians who cut taxes, increased expenditure and privatised the nation's assets.
@cpt_slog@... I would indeed think this is just yet another patent troll
@cpt_slog@... WYS ++
Once again, software/web patent lawsuits. Enough is enough already, they're obviously not working and there is no REAL need for them other than to stifle innovation. They've only created a niche market for a new breed of lawyers and taken billions of dollars out of companies pockets, where it could have spent that money on more R&D and innovate further.

Time to drop them, the EU and most of the world do well without them.
OMG. That's all.
can technically be sued if it's used to help someone locate the building visually if they with to stop by?

Sure it's a bit of a stretch but arguable in court if they wanted.
@Will Pharaoh
I think it is more of navigating with the panoramic pictures and not having one or two pictures showing what your location looks like, but the courts may decide otherwise and then we all problems.
Just another example of Google and MS stealing IP without compensation. Can't they search for IP?

Also, what is AOL???
@Gr8Music exactly. I have a couple patents. It does not matter if I am using them or not and I expect to be paid if they are used for profit, and if they are used for profit without permission, the fee goes up exponentially. It was my own work, not someone else's to take for profit.
@opcom "It was my own work, not someone else's"

The biggest issue with these patents nowadays though, is that these companies such as Transcenic (and many others), do NO work. They just patent things they've seen or heard about, and then sit back and wait for someone else to do the actual work of putting it to use. And then they sue those companies for "patent infringement". It's actually a joke that there are IP patents anyway. So I can sit here and think "what would be cool, that some company will eventually use in their software"... then patent a bunch of "cool" crap, and wait. Eventually, I could sue someone over it.

Now, if this company had coded software, or in some other way developed this technology, then that would be different. But it's not the case.
@Gr8Music

"AOL" is an old version of myspace, facebook, and google+.
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Cool....
cosuna 6th Jul
NT
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You forgot to add...
cosuna 6th Jul
@opcom :

...which was used by Austin Powers... in his ShagMobile....
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Righhhhhht.
Will Pharaoh 6th Jul
@Gr8Music
That was a believable post.
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AOL...
cosuna 6th Jul
...it used to be the prefix for TimeWarner.

I think it stands for:
"yet A nother firm destr O yed by Lawyers"
@Gr8Music AOL used to be called America On Line. It isn't clear that any of these companies stole IP. They may well have developed their methods independently. The idea in general isn't very novel. A lot depends on details.
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Errrr
Gis Bun 6th Jul
And why wait 5 years?
@Gis Bun Because you can gain more compensation like that.
Yet another stupid patent that should have never been granted. I think I'm going to patent "viewing images of life on Mars" and wait until we land people there, then sue the entire world.
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Invalid patent
Rick_R 6th Jul
Transcenic is going to waste a huge amount of money on lawyers and find out their patent is invalid. Under U.S. law, to be patentable an idea has to be "new, useful, and not obvious to a person with ordinary skill in the art."
I don't mind the subject of this lawsuit, actually. What bothers me is something that has been going on for thirty years or so - the practice of waiting for an infringing party's technology to mature to maximum market penetration before filing suit for damages so that the damage award will be maximized. I have seen suits filed on n early expired patents against multimillion dollar enterprises at the very last minute so that the impression is that many more orders of magnitude of money had been made at the patent holders' expense. It is rediculous to suppose that Transcenic only recently found out that they had been infringed upon, given the parties in the suit. If they are suffering damages now, they were suffering damages when Street View debuted on the market. You should be required to start the process as soon as you discover the alleged infringement, and if a lawsuit is the outcome, that timetable should be short, not measured in years.
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@always-a-geek That makes too much sense!
I agree with always-a-geek. Patents should be treated as copyrights are treated - i.e., action must take place as soon as a transgression is discovered. Waiting that long appears to be a ploy to geet more money out of a company.
Yet another patent for something obvious. I would be willing to bet money this was covered in a SciFi story many times long before this patent was issued. I find that most software patents are for "prior art" found in SciFi.
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QuickTime VR
romanra 6th Jul
Prior art: Apple's QuickTime VR released in 1994 (but researched and patented much earlier). They're wasting their time.
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@romanra

i wonder if my old web site that used a virtual reality browser would violate this patent.
i wonder what happened to VR.
it looked like it was going to be popular and suddenly vanished.
did Apple kill it with a patent?
hmmm . . .

happy
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I don't see how they can sue over this. It would be like some guy trying to sue McDonald's because he has a patent for a cheeseburger. Sure he can sue if McDonald's stole his exact recipe, but not on the concept of the cheeseburger. If people spent half the time and energy innovating that they did trying to sue and make a quick buck, they would have double. "I have a patent on making street view maps, no one can make street view maps but me!!! Even tho I'm obviously lazy and doing nothing with the idea because I only had the brainpower to think of an idea that is so vague, I didn't realize I would have to create a whole infrastructure to realize it and put it to use."
What next? Should someone tell Russell A. Kirsch to come out of retirement and sue any company that uses digital images as part of their solutions offerings?
I thought you had to make the idea work to get a patent, not just have it and claim credit when somebody else makes it work.

This nonsense has gone too far!
the problem I have here to does not appear anyone has addressed, is that the company is seeking monetary compensation for damages and a cease and desist. That means that all three companies would have to stop using this feature in their software, and make this two-man company extremely rich. It is like a gold digger's wet dream, saw something that looked useful filed an elaborate patent for it and sat back to wait for the money to show up.
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