$1.9m verdict is unconstitutional, Thomas-Rasset says
Summary: While an appeal is likely in the cards, the motion Jammie Thomas-Rasset's lawyers filed today was a request for new trial (PDF) or for the judge to alter the jury's "shocking" $1.9 million award.
While an appeal is likely in the cards, the motion Jammie Thomas-Rasset's lawyers filed today was a request for new trial (PDF) or for the judge to alter the jury's "shocking" $1.9 million award.
Thomas-Rasset's lawyers argued that (1) the jury's verdict of $80,000 per infringed work is unconstitutional because it violates Due Process; (2) that it is so unconscionable that the court may unilaterally knock the award down to a more reasonable number; (3) set aside this verdict and empanel yet another jury for trial #3.
The lawyers also said they planned to appeal on the issue of the admitted MediaSentry evidence and the lack of a certified copyright certificate.
Due Process
Regardless of the theory, the main issue is the size of the award. The Copyright Law provides for a broad range of statutory damages per infringed work. One question is whether a "work" is a song (iTunes download) or an album. Either way you cut it, the ratio of statutory damages to value of the infringed work is mind-boggling.
For 24 songs, available for $1.29 on iTunes, the jury assessed statutory damages of $80,000 per song — a ratio of 1:62,015. For 24 albums, available for no more than $15 at the store, the jury assessed statutory damages of $80,000 per album — a ratio of 1:5,333.
"Grossly excessive" punitive awards are disallowed by the due process clause, the Supreme Court has ruled. The test for a due process violation is:
(1) the degree of reprehensibility of the defendant’s misconduct; (2) the disparity between the actual or potential harm suffered by the plaintiff and the punitive damages award; and (3) the difference between the punitive damages awarded by the jury and the civil penalties authorized or imposed in comparable cases.
While the Court refused to recognize absolute numbers, it strongly suggested that anything over three or four or at the most 9 times the actual damages would fail the test. It would appear the Thomas-Rasset awards easily qualify.
Thomas-Rasset's lawyers largely skirt around the fact that the Court in Gore was dealing with jury awards. Here, the jury was applying a statutory scheme, which might require a finding that the law Congress passed is unconstitutional. But because the law provided for such extreme penalites, one could argue that there's little difference between Congress's numbers and ones a jury pulls out of a hat.
Remittitur
The defendant also asked the court to simply knock down the award to something reasonable under the federal common law remedy of remmittitur.
Remittitur is appropriate where the result on a verdict “is monstrous or shocking.” Here, where the punishment ratios are 1:62,015 measured in songs and 1:5,333 measured in albums, the verdict is both monstrous and shocking. Mrs. Thomas was a single mother who, at worst, downloaded and shared some music on KaZaA, music for which she had already lawfully purchased the CD’s, without any hint at all of a commercial motive. Her wrongdoing is a far cry from that which normally results in a $1.92 million verdict.
Evidence appeals The defendant is also asking for a new trial on the basis that the court erred in admitting the MediaSentry evidence because it was illegally obtained.
Neither MediaSentry nor Plaintiffs have disclosed the location of MediaSentry’s activities in February 2005. Media reports in 2005 indicate that MediaSentry most likely conducted its activities from either New Jersey or Maryland. Both New Jersey and Maryland have private investigator and wiretap statutes that MediaSentry would have violated if it conducted its activities from these states.
The judge previously expressed outrage over the size of the original $222,000 verdit in Trial #1, so he may well welcome the opportunity to throw this one out, as well. Whether he would order a whole new trial is anybody's guess. And at this point, the RIAA probably would welcome seeing this one swept under the rug.
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Talkback
Rasset should just pay the fine because...
that the RIAA is very close to gaining control of the U.S. Justice Dept.,
and they plan to raise the penalty for infringement of even one song to
the Gas Chamber.
You may have point.
This is exactly no change for at least the last 10 years.
I hope they make it $4 million next time
everytime she goes to court the price ends up going up.
I'd love to see her thrown in jail for perjury, too. This
isn't a freaking game, she's wasting the court's time and
taxpayer money with her and her lawyer's inane efforts in
court.
I hope she gets the Gas Chamber the next time she goes on trial
Or she should be shot!
And yet people expect them to actually *prove* that the alleged violator is guilty, like it was some sort of trial in an American courtroom or something? That's not the new American way!
They did prove it - TWICE.
They have records from KaZaa linked to her IP.
They have ISP records showing the activity to her modem.
They have her account at KaZaa using her Std USER NAME for other web sites.
Oh, and when she got a letter saying she was screwed, her computer suddenly had an issue and the HDD had to wiped out.
Juries aren't stupid, they can follow the dots. She is guilty of the charge. Now the fine might be high - but that's the juries perogative.
Madoff got 150 year...
Well, no
*Madoff got 150 year...
Actually, the constitution does limit a jury's perogative. A jury can't fine someone whatever it wants; there needs to be some relationship to actual damages. Where the fine is thousands of times more than actual damages, it's likely unconstitutional.
Interesting you mention Madoff, who actually stole money, caused actual devastating losses to people and organizations, did so knowingly and with the intent to rip people off, and did all this in the billions of dollars. This you compare to someone who shares (probably unknowingly) 24 songs? Which sharing hasn't actually caused ANY damage whatsoever?
Well, yes...
You keep harping on 24 sings - it was a lot more than 24 - 1700+ I think. And it stopped at 1700 because the caught her it could have kept going up. The RIAA only took the easiest 24 to prove to a jury.
As to the comparison to Madoff - his crime was much worse which is why he will die alone in jail surrounded by the worst scum on earth. Her cime was much less damaging which is why this is not a crimal trial - only civil. She'll not lose her life to jail. She'll not face murders and rapists on a constant basis - no 23 hours of solitary in super max. So yes - they are different crimes and they're punishments are completely different.
"Which sharing hasn't actually caused ANY damage whatsoever?" Really? If I steal from your company and your paycheck everyweek, you're not damaged? Or do you think those greedy record lables and artists shouldn't be protected from theft because they can afford it?
Wiped out financially is NOTHING compared to knowing you're dying in prison. She can settle the award for much less. She can file for bankrupcy. She can rebuild. Madoff is a dead man walking. In my opinion, justice prevails in the end.
You may be wrong dude.
However you want to look at it the punishment is Draconian for what she did.
That ought to get the law struck down on the face of it.
I might have given her five thousand tops.
No, not really
damage whatsoever?" Really? If I steal from
your company and your paycheck everyweek,
you're not damaged? Or do you think those
greedy record lables and artists shouldn't be
protected from theft because they can afford
it?
A. She did not steal from the record company.
She shared some songs. There is no proof that
anyone but MediaSentry downloaded the songs, so
no proof that anyone actually got a song that
they would otherwise have paid for.
B. Even if someone did download songs, that
doesn't mean that they would have bought the
songs. For one thing, they're widely available
from many peers. For another thing, most people
download free music because it's free not
because they must have it and will buy it if
it's not free.
C. The argument that someone is losing money is
an argument about the aggregate. That in the
aggregate massive filesharing is hurting the
record companies. But it's wrong to punish one
person for the sins of the many. She was tried
for sharing 24 songs. The question of the
damage that caused must be limited to *her*
actions.
D. The law prescribes a penalty because
sometimes actual damages are inadequate. That's
the case here, you will agree. The issue is
what is a fair (meaning within due process
according to the Supreme Court) penalty. The
answer is 3-4 times, or perhaps 10 times.
E. Therefore putting the law together with the
Constitution and the fact that she is not a
counterfeiter, the proper penalty is the
minimum the law provides.
Jammie Thomas
But the point remains that the entire system is grossly weighted against the defendants. The facts are that the RIAA is NOT the government and should NOT have governmental authority, they do NOT have any government oversight over their activities, they are accusing people of copyright violations and extorting thousands of dollars from them using questionable tactics and shaky reasoning, they are claiming damages that are just ludicrously overstated, they are claiming damages when no evidence of a violation even exists, they have on multiple occasions accused innocent people of breaking the law, they have paid off both parties to the extent that even perfectly fair and reasonable use of media is being made illegal, they have paid off congress to the point where copyright will from now on be extended indefinitely (unless you think Disney won't get another Mickey Mouse extension in 20 years.), they've paid off congress so that it's becoming illegal to manufacture or sell hardware that doesn't enforce their draconian restrictions. Blind people want their books to be read out load? Fsck 'em!) They've paid off congress so that they can use the DMCA to prevent people from modifying their own hardware and devices as they see fit. They've used congress to enforce region-encoding in a patently obvious attempt to prevent people from watching whatever they can afford to purchase where they'd like to watch it. They've managed to get laes passed to allow the government to seize and search my computer equipment at the border just in case I might have something they haven't authorized installed. (Including not just copyrighted materials, but software that they feel might be used to aid copyright violations.) They've restricted trade and scientific advancement by making it illegal to use any of their materials without paying an exorbitant licensing fee and by making it illegal to study their software to learn more about it. They've attempted to deny people access to the internet for alleged copyright violations. They made use of spurious DMCA claims to prevent any and all use of what they feel is their intellectual property, fair use or not. (Hell, they don't even care if it actually IS their intellectual property.)
I could go on. To say you should just obey the law because it's the law is -- frankly -- stupid. The law is being written by a handful of major corporations to protect their obsolete business model from the inevitable march of technology. Bridle and harness makers would have loved to make laws that made it illegal to have a horseless carriage. Western Union would have loved to pass a law that made voice communications illegal. Fortunately, 100 years ago this country was run my saner men.
They don't have government power. That's why it's a civil case and not...
...a criminal case.
[i]they are accusing people of copyright violations and extorting thousands of dollars from them using questionable tactics and shaky reasoning,[/i]
I disagree. I see anything questionable or shaky about what they are doing. What specifically is questionable or shaky about what they're doing?
Simple
Let's assume my car is stolen from my driveway at night, used in a drive-by shooting, and then replaced before I wake up. I'm certainly going to be questioned by the police, but the fact that it was my car can't be used as proof that I'm a murderer. There would have to be some sort of other evidence linking me to the actual shooting. If I have no history of gang activity, no gunpowder residue on my person, and no relationship with the victim I have a good chance of clearing my name.
Now in reality, if this ever happened the car owner is certainly going to be a prime suspect, and there's even a chance that the innocent car theft victim could be convicted of murder. But the government has to follow the law while investigating my case and gathering evidence. They have to prove my guilt to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. As a criminal matter they have to provide me with a free lawyer if I need one. They have to follow special rules if I'm a minor. They need to prove *I* was the shooter and not merely that the bullet came from my car. They even have to prove that the bullet actually DID come from my car, and my car didn't just happen to be driving by when the shooting took place. And finally, the prosecutor can choose not to press charges if, for instance, I was 85 years old and mostly blind and therefore very, very unlikely to be guilty.
They have rules to protect *us* from *them*.
Now contrast this with the RIAA lawsuits. They presume that the user of the IP address is guilty, period. They ask for thousands of dollars without proving anybody's guilt. The victims are not entitled to a (free) lawyer because it's a contract violation, not a criminal lawsuit. If the accused party is an 85-year old partially blind man who's neighbors have been using his router because he didn't know how to secure it, then he has basically no legal recourse. It would be exactly as if you were guilty for any crimes committed with your stolen car, even if you didn't know the car was stolen.
I'm not claiming that most of the RIAA's lawsuits were against innocent parties, but the government can't just accuse random people of breaking the law and then force the accused to pay thousands of dollars to prove they DIDN'T commit any crimes. It's no different than the government sending tickets to the owner of a car that runs a red light, regardless of who was driving it, and then sending 50% of the proceeds to private corporations who profit from the laws that make this travesty of justice possible.
Oh, snap.
@john.lemme: They did prove she was infringing.
As to you car theft example the burden of proof for a murder is considerably higher than that of a petty crime. Even if both are held to the same "beyond a reasonable doubt" criteria.
If I were a juror on a murder case you can damn well bet I would want some very convincing evidence that the accused commited a crime. After all the punishment is much more severe. Contrast this to someone accused of possessing marijuana. I don't need nearly the certainty to convict as I would in a murder case. Even though both are criminal and require "beyond a reasonable doubt" to be met.
Let's assume your scenario where someone steals your car. Except instead of killing someone they take it for a joy ride and drop a bag of weed. You are pulled over for speeding and the officer sees it laying in the back seat. You're charged with possession and, being innocent, you take it to court. It's likely you're going to be convicted of possession even though no one can conclusively prove you ever knew about it.
Theft is Theft....
It doesn't matter what technology does evolve into or doesn't evolve into. Someone made a product they wish to sell for profit. No matter what technology exists, you cannot deny them thier right to livelyhood. You don't have the right, via technology, to stripe another of their rights.
Sorry - technology cannot replace morality. Stealing is wrong and should be punished. Convince the artists to give their art away for free, pay for it, or don't listen.
Punished by whom?
2. Punished by whom? The copyright owners? If I catch you stealing the radio from my car (REAL stealing!), do I have the legal right to punish you for it? Can I can beat you to death? Stick a gun in your ribs and make you give me $10,000? Chop off your hand? Do I have to right to mete out punishment just because you stole from ME?
3. Who decides that you're guilty? If I catch you the day after the theft with a radio that looks like mine can I presume you're guilty and proceed to beat, rob, or de-hand you? What if you happened to have the same radio? What if you found my radio on the ground and didn't know it was mine? Should you have no protection from my wrath?
4. What if I was very rich and paid millions of dollars in campaign contributions to pass a law saying that if I so much as thought you stole my radio I could hunt you down and take as much of your money as I wanted. Would it suddenly be OK because it's now legal?
It's not an issue of whether it's OK to break contract law. It's an issue of whether only one party gets to decide whether you broke the contract and whether that same party can arbitrarily decide to punish you as they see fit. If the RIAA's targets were ACTUALLY stealing something the RIAA would need to ACTUALLY prove they were guilty and the punishment would be for the act itself, not for some crazy made-up "damages".
Right to Livelihood
u hope they make it 4 mill
In many countries
nature. Punition is left to the fine, and
damages can only repair damages caused by the
defendant.
In the US, damages have historically been the
mean to exert punishment. This case will
perhaps begin a change in mind in your
coountry, as people realise that, would she
have stolen physical CDs from a store, she
would have paid a few hundred $ at most.
She should not be granted a third trial.